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line up and down the west coast from wildfires. the challenge is greater than ever before. while the nation shutly deals with a deadly pandemic. -- simultaneously deals with a deadly pandemic. >> the air we are breathing right now is equivalent to smoking 20 pacts of cigarettes? it is not just california. in oregon 10% of the population has evacuated their homes. while there is good news to report on the search for a vaccine. there is concern on the pandemic's impact on the way people vote in the 2020 election. trump still on defense after the interview with bod woodward about what he really knew about the coronavirus. >> it is more deadly than the strenuous flus. this is more deadly, you know, so, this is deadly stuff. >> his campaign heads to nevada.
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joe biden is asking kamala harris to take center stage today. her message, and where the campaign is headed, next. but we begin with breaking news of those devastating fires spreading across the west coast that have left at least 28 people dead and dozens more missing. california has never seen a fire larger or more fierce than the one burning north of sacramento right now. it is not likely done growing. so far, more than 3 million acres of land have been torched across the state making it one of the worst fire seasons on record with six of the top wildfires in state history happening just this year alone. in oregon, with conditioning worsening, half a million residents have been ordered to flee their homes as officials prepare for a, quote, mass fatality event. nbc is in beauty county, california, 90 miles north of sacramento, near the largest fire burning in state history. scott, the governor toured the
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fire damage near oroville, california, yesterday. what can you tell us about that? >> right, oroville just to orient you a little bit, oroville is 30 miles away from where i am in berry creek. that aloans gives you a sense of the expanse of some of the damage. berry creek is a town of 500 people. it has essentially been wiped out. this is the elementary school. clearly, the fire just roared through here this past week. president trump is also going to be in california. he's going to visit on monday. he will be at mcclellan park near sacramento. he's not going to see some this damage. he is going to be at a base camp where the firefighters are. that alone has become a very complicated issue in this era of covid. normally a very choreographed situation, it is different this year. back to the governor's visit, his message is this is all about climate change.
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if you are looking at this from elsewhere in the country and thinking what a shame for northern california, he's saying think again. >> this is climate change. the hots are getting a lot higher. the dries are getting a lot dryer. the wets are getting a lot wetter. the atmospheric rivers. it is a consequence of historic droughts, historic heat, and then historic lightning strikes. this is what you get. >> reporter: it's historic, and it's also deadly. nine people dead in this north complex fire. 3 million acres in california have burned, putting this year a record and we are not even anywhere near the peak of fire season. >> that's a good point, this suspect just a california or west coast problem. looking behind you, nobody would want to see that happen to an elementary school in their community. it is almost reminiscent of the paradise fire in 2018 n paradise, california. how does what we are dealing with right now compare to that
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in terms of destruction and in terms of fatalities? >> well, in terms of just the ferocity of the fire, that fire has nothing on this one. it tore through here. that fire was more deadly. 85 people in the camp fire of 2018. as i said, nine people dead in this one puts it in the top tep or 12. you know, it is the human devastation in addition to the physical devastation. >> striking images right there. scott cohen thank you for that report. with just 52 days until the election, joe biden is keeping his campaign virtual today with no in-person events. the former vice president took yesterday off to honor the victims of the september 11th attacks with visits to new york and pennsylvania. nbc's deepa ship ram joins us now. what do they have on the
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schedule today? >> joe biden will not be doing any events today. we don't expect to see him at all. he is having kamala harris doing a virtual event in arizona today. it is the first time she has ever held an even in arizona. she never went there during the primaries. neither did joe biden. this is their first arizona debut. she will be speaking to latino small business owners and doing a round table there. that's the main event coming up in the 4:00 hour this afternoon. also we will be headlining the iowa steak fry. one year ago she was there and had an iconic entrance with a drum line. she is giving recorded remarks there tonight. that's what we have on the biden schedule. this is all going on as president trump is in nevada holding in-person raelgs like he has been doing for a while. the backdrop of the virtual campaigning versus in person is interesting.
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it also comes lindsey like you have seen this last week, kamala harris stepping on the ground for the first time, she traveled to milwaukee this week as they begin to do the personal campaigning they said they were going to do before election day. >> interesting biden and harris haven't visited arizona when we know it is a typical place for trump and his surrogates to go to. i want to ask you about an article in the "washington post." the article says that biden formed a war cabinet that started six months ago with a former fda commissioner a former surgeon general. what do we know about this war cabinet? >> yeah, absolutely, lindsey. this kind of sighs into the rhetoric you have been hearing from joe biden for a long time. he wants to be ready to handle the coronavirus pandemic on day one of his presidency. this preparation like you are seeing and this article is kinds of tied into that. this is not a crisis that you can kind of come into without having prepared for a very long
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time. and so that's what you are seeing. he's getting daily briefings on the pandemic as well making sure that he's able to focus on how we can get a vaccine out to americans as soon as that becomes available. what you are seeing is a lot of that preparation going into it. >> he said that he would shut down the country again if the science deemed so. deepa shiv ram in washington thank you. a change of plans for the trump campaign. the president was scheduled to host two rallies in nevada today. but local officials shut them down saying the rallies violated their coronavirus crowd restrictions. vaughn hillyard is in las vegas. von, the fact that the president is defying local officials there really shows how hard fought nevada is becoming. >> exactly. i mean, president trump i don't think is one that anybody has ever suggested would be deterred when it comes to his intentions of holding a campaign rally. he did it in tulsa, oklahoma n phoenix, arizona, in the middle
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of this -- in the height this pandemic in the middle of a hot spot. of course he is going to go forward with his trip to nevada. he is going to be in reno tonight. they finally found a venn rue where it appears this event will take place. he will be in las vegas for multiple events tomorrow. but this has been the struggle because there is a mandate here at the state level to not have gatherings of more than 50 people. but you saw just three nights ago in michigan he had a rally of more than 5,000 individuals. most of them unmasked. the president, despite the pandemic, despite the fact that 1,400 nevadans have already passed away from covid, he continues to defy that state mandate and is coming anyway to hold that event. you have to remember the backdrop lindsey is now we are 52 days away from election day. you saw the new polling numbers that came out from some of these pivotal states, wisconsin, michigan, new hampshire, also here in nevada, which donald trump lost by just 27,000 votes
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in 2016. he hopes to pick this up as a win on his path to 270 electoral votes. i want you to hear from joaquin ortiz. he was a server for seven years at boulder station a casino just down the road from here. he is one of 152,000 individuals who had a job back in february this year that still does not today. lip to him with the back drom of president trump's visit here today -- backdrop of president trump's visit here today. >> with too many people not working it is a nightmare. people are going to start losing houses, getting our utilities stopped because no money to pay. it's -- it's something to worry. >> not only is it a tough economic impact that the state has experienced, but, of course the covid continues to spread. community spread continues to exist. there is still a percent positive rate of nearly 10% here in southern nevada. >> i was in las vegas at the end of february for the nevada
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caucuses. and von, so much has happened there, it feels like we have lived so many lives. but all of those people, the union workers, the people employed on the strip, to think of them how many lost their jobs pandemic and are now out of work. as the president heads to nevada he still faces questions and scrutiny over comments he made in a series of interviews with the "washington post's" bob woodward. the latest excerpt includes the president saying he protected saudi's crown prince after the murder of khashoggi. the president said quote, i saved his bleep. i was able to get congress to leave him alone. i was able to get them to stop. nbc's josh lenderman is at the white house. he joins me now. what more can you tell us about these reports, these latest
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remarks in woodward's book? >> we remember what a massive international crisis this was in late 2018 when jamal khashoggi was killed particularly after the cia concluded that crown prince salman known as nbs likely personally ordered that killing. in the wake of that murder congress tried to block all u.s. military sales to saudi arabia. but president trump did an end run around congress declaring an emergency to be able to greenlight about $8 million in sales to saudi arabia. that's why these latest comments to bob woodward are really raising some eyebrows with the president saying he was essentially covering for crown prince nbs. listen to way president trump dodged the question when he was asked about these comments to bob woodward. >> what did you mean when you said you saved nbs's [ bleep ]? what did you mean when you said you saved them? >> who are you talking about --
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>> mohammad bin salman? >> you will have to figure that out yourself. >> officials here don't know what else president trump has said to bob woodward. the "washington post" author had some 18 conversations with president trump in the course of reporting out this book, many of them by phone without any white house official or communication staff as part of that. they don't know what other damaging information he could have said to bob woodward that could be included in this. the good news for white house officials is they don't have to wait too long because the book and all the information in it will be coming out on tuesday? for better or for worse. what a remarkable non-answer there, you will having to figure that out yourself. josh, what's the latest on the top aid to u.s. attorney john durham resigning. du >> we have.
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withed her resignation but not the reason for it. the local paper there says she resigned in part because of concerns she was being pressured by the justice department to row lease some type of an interim report ahead of the election about what they had found in this investigation into origins of the russia probe. now we know that the justice department typically has a tradition within -- they call it the 60-day rule. within 60 days of an election, they are not supposed to announce indictments or make other overt disclosures that could interfere with the election. so that's raising some real concerns over whether there was pressure to do that in a way that would influence the outcome of the upcoming election. turning now to the coronavirus pandemic. here are the facts as we know them this hour. there is some good news in the search for a vaccine. the astrazeneca oxford trials resumed in the uk. earlier this week you will remember those trials were put
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on pause. as part of review process after a patient became ill. astrazeneca is currently a front runner in the race for a vaccine. a new report from politico is raising eyebrows about the white house politicizing the coronavirus. they have demand they be able to review or change weekly progress reports from the cdc this. move has some officials worried about the attempted down play the effect of the virus. president trump and dr. fauci are at odds over when the coronavirus will be mitigated. listen to dr. fauci yesterday on msnbc. >> i think the vaccine is going to come very soon. very soon. with it or without it, we are rounding the turn, the numbers
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are plunging. >> i have to disagree with that because if you look at the numbers we just mentioned, andrea, the statistics, they are disturbing. we are plateauing at 40,000 case as day and the deaths around 1,000. >> rounding the turn versus plateauing. in iowa, currently battling nearly 73 cases of coronavirus, universities are confronting a surge in infections among students. some like iowa state are modifying their reopening plans in vons. joining us now from ames, iowa is msnbc's mara bare with more. can you tell us more about these colleges graeming with outbreaks on their campuses? -- grapple with outbreaks on their campuses? >> it is important to note that these campuses and other campuses across the country haven't grappled with, haven't had to deal with the coronavirus
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pandemic in the early months like we saw in new york city other other hot spots across the country because they are smaller who fend on students to be present in session to help with their community. we saw here at iowa state students telling me they wish administration had been more pro active rather than reactive once they saw spikes in recent weeks telling them originally you had to wear masks only in class. there was a 44% positivity rate in surrounding communities. a lot of local bars had to be shut down. a lot of this is them reacting quickly as they can in order to contain the spread. still ahead, taliban peace talks. historic negotiations that hope to put an end to a deadly conflict spanning nearly 20
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long awaited peace talks between afg officials and taliban incourage entz began today in qatar's capital of cothat. they aret talks are aimed at ending two decades of war that have left tens of thousands dead. matt bradley is in paris with the latest and joins me now. matt, what came out of today's talks? secretary pompeo was there for the opening ceremony. what did we hear from him? >> lindsey, i mean today's talks were just sort of the first day. everything is just getting started. and yesterday, which was the 19th anniversary september 11th,
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that's of course what started this whole 20-year, awfully bloody very expensive war in afghanistan that killed more than 100,000 afghans, maybe as many as 200,000. today we heard optimism especially from secretary of state mike pompeo. here's what he had to say. >> today is truly a momentous occasion. afghans have at long last chose tony sit together and chart a new course for your country. this is a moment that we must dare to hope. >> now, why was secretary pompeo attending talks between the taliban and the afghan government? well, of course the u.s. occupation is the backdrop for all of this. the taliban is only willing to go to the table with the afghan government, which is essentially, as the taliban calls them, they really are kind of an government that has been backed up by the u.s., by u.s. soldiers. the taliban refers to them as a
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puppet government. they are only willing to do that because they have assurances. and that deal in february from the u.s. that will see the u.s. gradually withdraw all of its troops from afghanistan. again, 19 years after this whole thing was set off on september 11th. lindsey. >> what are you hearing about the chances these talks will ultimately lead to a deal? especially given the taliban's long standing resistance to recognize the afghan government? as you mentioned they are calling it a puppet government? >> you know, yeah, the afghan government and the taliban they are not friends, and they never have been. in fact it was easier for the taliban, they were much more willing to speak to the u.s. occupiers. they always have such a deep emnitty for the afghan government because they seemed to be a puppet for the u.s. occupying. these negotiations are probably going to go on for a very long time but the fact of the matter is that the afghan government is weak. and it will be weaker when u.s. troops finally withdraw fully from the country. the taliban, when i spoke with
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some of their representatives two years ago in doha, they told me they are willing to fight for another 20 years, and maybe even longer. so when it comes to these negotiations, the taliban have a will to fight that's behind them, and they will likely be bringing that to the table. they will likely suck set. >> important context. matt bradley in appearis, thanks for that perspective. it has been a week of bombshells, revelations and accusations against the president and his administration. among the laundry list an explosive new wbler complaint filed by brian murphy the former head of the homeland security department that's intelligence branch. he mentioned four alleged wrong dogs by superiors at the agency all to meet the president's needs. he claims political appointees had been modifying and suppressing to match speech's
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remarks on various issues. he also said that allison asked hip to lie about terrorists caught crossing the border. the dhs also fed false information to congress claiming thousands of terrorists were crossing that border. with me, julia ainsley. let's talk about your reporting on this and claims that dhs officials distorted intel to match with trump's statements specifically on the subject of antifa and anarchist groups. do owe know how this information was manipulated? >> that piece even is on top of this whistle-blower report. the whistle-blower report focused on the number of terrorists crossing the border in 2018 and 2019. it looked at the way information was being stifled to leave out the extent to which russia would
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meddle in the upcoming elect. on top of that we have new reporting that shows that the head of the u.s. customs and border protection has been going ahead with the president's talking point on antifa trying to say there are groups, orpged groups paid by antifa to fly into stes across the country, uniformed groups all dressed in black in order to cause violence. when we went to dhs to ask for specific examples neither dhs or u.s. customs and border protection, a subset of that agency could give us examples. it is another example of how dhs has really turned into being a mouthpiece for the trump administration's political talking points rather than going off of their own intelligence, the intelligence of someone like brian murphy would be supplying them that matters because they are a law enforcement agency. when we hear the heads of law enforcement, at the fbi, whether
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kerstin nielsen, the head of u.s. customs and border protection we assume that they have information behind that claim. not always information they can share with us. sometimes it is classified. but it is at least information we think that's leading them to make an informed claim not something they have been told to repeat by the white house without information to back it up. >> this is eroding the trust and faith. julia, you were reporting on this before we had a whistle-blower complaint. in 2019 in january you were reporting about the allegations of inflating the number of terrorists, immigrants that were caught at the border. you were debunking it. there weren't thousands of terrorists crossing the border, their just six. now this whistle-blower is saying he too was pushed to change these numbers. what similarities are you finding between your reporting and this whistle-blow complaint? >> when i read the complaint i
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immediately thought that explains to me why dhs tried to fight our story tooth and nail in 2019. at the time we were fact checking the claim that sarah sanders made and was put out in materials to congress and to reporters that said there were almost 4,000 terrorists crossing the border. now we know not only were those people special interest aliens, not from the western hemisphere, very few of them were crossing the border. known terrorists. only six in the summer of 2018 were crossing the border. those people just had a name on a list. it doesn't mean they were ever convicted of a terrorism-related crime. what happened when i saw this whistle-blower report and i saw that murphy had been silenced how he had been told to leave meetings an alarm bell set off for me. now is the time to go forward and explain what happened at nbc when we were told if we did not
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retract our story they would be putting out a statement to say it was wrong. now it look like that was a scare tactic. we went forward with the story and such a statement never came out. i think the reason we show it is not to try to pick a fight with dhs but to show there was something happening at dhs that was against the public interest. they were against the right information getting out. whether someone like brian murphy releasing it or someone like nbc trying to get out the correct information. now it seems, again, there was a political interest to put out information that was not correct. that's why we went forward with that story just this week, to explain what happened in those conversations in early 2019. >> that dhs spokesperson has married the senior white house senior adviser and she is now the press secretary for vice president mike pence. giving our viewers more background there. julia, thank you for your reporting. what's in a poll? what some new numbers tell us,
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new polls are shedd shedding lead on how the 2020 race for president is shaping up 52 days out. biden still has a decent lead in the nbc average of all the latest polls. but what could be even more concerning for the trump camp is the poll we showed earlier from the "new york times" indicating that the president is trailinged bien in four key swing states. i am joined by fred yang a democratic pollster to make sense of all of this. the "new york times" poll that shows biden ahead by five points in wisconsin a state that trump carried in 2016. how significant is this? >> well, it's significant in that, number one, the president is trailing, and number two, as incumbent, you want to be as lows or above 50% as possible
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this par out. when you are down by five points, you are clearly not even close to 50%. i think lindsey it is not just polls in those swing states. it's polls in pennsylvania, michigan, and florida, where right now the biden campaign that is has significant advantages. >> let's go to florida, now that you mention it. of course anyone who wants to get to 270 electoral votes wants to win in florida. how bad does it look that the trump campaign is trailing. >> again, a six-point deficit. not only, that he's below -- eight points below 50%. i know it is a cliche, but right now, at this point, you would rather be the joe biden campaign than the donald trump campaign. >> let's talk about another poll, the morning console recently released one showing president trump is still favored in 52% of military households
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with those who are or live with an active duty service member. this comes after the damaging report in the atlantic in which the president is accused of calling fallen soldiers losers and suckers. even though it shows he is still favored it shows that support among military families is lower than it was in 2016. is that significant? >> in 2016 when hillary clinton won the national popular vote by 3% the exit polls shows she lost military households by 26 points. that's almost a third lower than where trump was over clinton in 2016. look, if he can only win military households by low double digits, again i think those numbers, florida, minnesota, all of these swing states that were very close in 2016 n which biden has two, three, four, five-point leads, again, i think that's shaping up to be advantage biden right now.
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>> before we let you go, i want to ask you about minnesota because we are talking about all of these different states sort of in the context of what is happening around the country. another poll is showing trump trailing biden by nine points there in minnesota. of course that is the state where george floyd was murdered we saw subsequent protests ripple across the nation. the president declared himself the law and order president. does this poll in minute men have any bearing on how his message is being received? >> i think taking a step back the average of polls before the democratic convention and your average of polls showed at the beginning of this segment shows no change in the presidential race from before the democratic convention. i think it shows that despite the president and the republican party's attempt to reshape this election or change the subject, the american public remains very focused on coronavirus. what are we going to do to make
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sure we address it and what are we going to do to help the country recover? i think all of these polls -- again arc poll is just a snapshot. and there are still 52 days left. it shows so far the trump campaign has been unable to change the narrative and the focus of the american public. >> fred yang, we threw a lot at you. we appreciate you so much breaking all that down for us and the numbers that can sometimes be confusing. a programming note, this week, my colleague ali velshi will be on the ground in swing states talking to leaders, talking to voters about the issues that will decide this election this. week, ali is live from minneapolis, minnesota, watch him tomorrow from 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. eastern here on msnbc. we'll be right back. snbc we'll be right back. how about no
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prior to the global pandemic there were concerns about election misinformation. what about coronavirus misinformation? could that have the ability to impact our elections as well? >> before covid that was misinformation in every country, for sure. but in one country it might be about the prime minister. in another country it might be about the response to a natural disaster. in a third country it might be about some celebrity. what happened with covid there is misinformation on the same topic. in every country in the world we are all talking about the kinds of emergency responses lockdowns or masks, restaurants closing, et cetera. >> as scientists get closer to developing a vaccine, false information about the coronavirus continues to spread to all corners of the world that presents a unique opportunity for jake shapiro a professor at princeton leading a team of researchers studying covid misinformation on a global stale. >> we have 2400 different narratives, 33 different
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languages. we have an ability to say here's what the trends have been in a whole bunch of countries around the world. there is a consistent drum beat of narratives around the nature of the emergency response and the status of individuals. misinformation about the nature of the virus, the origin of the virus, things hike that that dropped off dramatically. it is not as credible as it was to say hey this thing is just like a seasonal flu. generally people understand that's not true. some misinformation is simply bizarre like a tweet from a fake bbc account claiming actor daniel radcliffe had the virus. some could carry lasting reactions. >> they were many to undermine an institution in a society. what that suggests to me is that people using this miss
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information for political purposes are going to hop onto what ever the issue of the day is. for six months the issue has been covid. one of the biggest drivers of misinformation? fear. about a third. >> as the united states approach as critical election this november without an effective vaccine, could fear keep people from the polls? >> the thing which worries me a little bit more about covid is it could potentially be used for targeted voter suppression. you could micro target people on social media to scare them away from going to vote in person by sending them lots of content which emphasizes the public health risks and dangers they face from going to vote. that's the aspect that i am concerned about. it is not miley targeted voter suppression that uses covid to keep voters away from the polls. >> shapiro warns the bigger threat is the same russian interference we saw in 2016.
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>> the director of the national intelligence center came out and said russia is working hard to influence the 2020 election through social media. there is a direct assault by a foreign country on the integrity of our political discussion in our country. this is like a direct effort to impersonate americans and produce content that is appearing as though it is produced in our zmun are we in a better position now than we were four years ago? >> now there are multiple companies that have large staffs working on this. and all the platforms are out there looking for it. the intelligence community is tracking it. and various aspects of the federal government are tracking it. so there is like way more being done now than there was then. that's a much better situation for our democracy than in 2016. >> nbc's ben collins reporting. as restaurants and food workers struggle across the country, joy reid and andrew zimmer explore the food-related crises unfolding for americans
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wants to surrender our country to theleft-wing mob. rioters, anarchists, arsonists and flag burners. flood your state with refugees from terrorist hotspots around the world. the left wants to get rid of me so they can come after you. confiscate your guns. shut down auto production, delay the vaccine. they want to destroy your suburbs and indoctrinate your children. you will have crime like you've never seen before. no city, town, or suburb will be safe. >> for someone who believes that stoking fear creates chaos, and said that he down played coronavirus to prevent that, president trump has been doing a lot of it lately according to our next guest. an article published this week in "the atlantic," jessica
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trownsteen, she says it feeds into a their they've racial equality is a threat to suburban peace and president trump is the gate keeper to affluent communities, fearful of what he calls violence and chaos. here to discuss is jessica. thanks for joining us. first, really, in your article, you come out of the gate swinging. you say that trump is invoking the segregationist view and that his message could conceivably appeal to white suburbanites not just republicans. >> there is a long history invoking this kind of fear. suburbs in the united states have been participating and practicing this kind of process for over 100 years.
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so what trump is doing is really recalling a language and a pattern of preventing integration of our suburban communities that goes back to even the early 1900s and really became part of the language of american suburbs starting in the 1950s and 1960s. so what he's doing is recalling, invoking, and bringing up old patterns of segregation that ring true for a lot of americans. >> yeah, and you're backing that up with your own data you collected last year in which you found overwhelming agreement that apartment complexes would increase crime rates, people are telling you this, this is what they believe, and also believe they would degrade the desirability of a neighborhood. why do so many americans in metro areas prefer single-family houses over apartments in their neighborhoods, and what are the consequences of that? >> it's a raelta really importa
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question. over the course of american history, the creation of suburbs was the process of insulating single-family homes from higher density housing. there is a pattern here of creating single-family home zoning and preventing multifamily density from being a part of a community in order to create racial segregation. so what's happened is that that pattern of land use has become embedded in our metropolitan areas, and what i find in my data and in a long historical look at american suburbanization is that democrats and republicans both share this view that higher density housing will bring crime, it will degrade schools, lower property values, and make a neighborhood more undesirable. so we don't really see a partisan difference in my data. >> president trump says if bildbild biden were elected he would upend the status quo.
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you write that's not true. can you elaborate and say what could conceivably upend the status quo? >> absolutely. so one of the reasons why communities create these kinds of land use regulations in order to preevent high density housing from being part of their community is so that they can create exclusive access to public goods like low crime rates and good schools and all of the things that our cities provide for us. again, there's a long history of this happening. and this has all happened at the local level. so the creation of these suburban communities and the insulation of these communities from higher density housing isn't a federal issue. it's a local issue. and it's created by land use regulations. so what could upend this? well, state governments have the power to change local land use regulations. my data suggests that isn't very
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common. but it's possible. there's less of a role for the federal government to play here. >> it sounds like your research is so relevant to this national conversation we're having also involving equality and racial issues, things like redlining that have been so entrenched in the housing community for decades that really needs to be dealt with. jessica, thank you for joining us. your life's work has become so relevant in this upcoming election. it is fascinating. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> coming up in our next hour, california on fire. a closer look at the widespread devastation in the golden state and climate change connection. plus on the road e again, both biden and president trump return to the trail with vastly different tones. our road warriors join us live with the latest. ending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions.
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good afternoon. a busy weekend on the campaign trail with 52 days until the election. kamala harris is making multiple appearances on behalf of joe biden and president trump plays defense after the interviews with bob woodward. we'll examine what those are having on voters. and the nations watched four former police officers charged in the death of george floyd make a court appearance. we'll show you what's next in the case. and what can we expect in similar cases? in rochester, kenosha, louisville? plus, an eye on the deadly wildfires up and down the west
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coast, forcing the evacuation of hundreds of thousands of people. all this in a week where we saw all-time record highs in california and arizona while snow was falling in colorado. we'll talk with a former white house aide on the climate change happening even faster than once predicted. we begin on the campaign trail. after pausing to remember the victims of september 11th, both presidential candidates are back stumping for votes. joe biden is relying on kamala harris today while president trump had to change his rally plans in nevada. i'm joined by two reporters. president trump facing tough new polls showing him behind in battleground states like the state you are in. what can you tell us? >> lindsey, there's one campaign that is truly out on the road essentially almost full-time at this point and that is the trump campaign. you see vice president pence as well as donald trum

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