the reason they're turning away. good morning to you on this sunday september 13th. welcome in, i'm cori coffin and i'm kendis. the person who shot two los angeles deputies. an ambush. >> this surveillance video released appearing to show the suspect with a gun walking up to the patrol car, kendis mentioned, a cowardly act. we pause the tape after the suspect raises the gun to the car. two deputies, 31 woman, a 24-year-old man both fairly new to the department sustained multiple gunshot wounds. >> they were rushed to the hospital in critical condition and under way surgery. a live report coming up in just a bit on that ongoing search that is taking place in the greater los angeles area right now. >> also talking about other breaking news we're following

for you. tropical storm sally strengthening in the gulf coast. right now producing rain in florida and moving up the gulf coast over alabama andricane wa evacuations already in places including like new orleans. and in northern california, firefighters are using controlled burns to fight the giant north complex fire burning in the poomous national forest. close to 259,000 acres have burned. the fire is 22% contained. closer to los angeles through heavy smoke and haze, more than 29,000 acres destroyed. 6% contained so far. and this is what it looks like for folks who live near the los angeles national forest. a terrifying scene shot by john mayoringer, people were getting ready to evacuate, the air

filling with smoke in san francisco as well. the city under alert with fires raging across california, oregon and washington. a note, they said this air quality is like smoking two packs of grepack s of cigarettes a week. they're using drones and dogs to comb through neighborhoods left in blackened ruins searching for survivors. we'll have a live report on this in a few minutes. today the president is out west trying to appeal to swing state voters. he's in las vegas preparing for a second day of campaign events that will focus on nevada's hispanic community. nbc's josh letterman is at the white house with the latest from the campaign trail. josh, i know the president was there in northern nevada last night. he said some interesting things. talking and trying to target the hispanic community. >> reporter: that's right, kendis. the president making a concerted pitch for hispanic voters during

his campaign swing in states like arizona, nevada, florida, shaping up as key battleground states in the 2016 election. the president after a rally last night focused on hispanic voters and will be doing the same again today in the las vegas area as well as in arizona tomorrow. but he has a funny way of doing it. making some inaccuratal statements last night saying that he was leading in the polls with hispanic voters which is not true. take a listen to a little bit about what he had to say about hispanics as he was speaking in minden last night. >> for the last four years i've been delivering for our incredible hispanic -- i love the hispanic community. hispanic like tough people, people that will produce jobs. the biden party continues to attack our incredible border agents. they're incredible people. more than half of whom happen to be hispanic-americans. did you know that? i know all of them.

jose, how ya doing? juan, how ya doing? >> and campaign officials with the trump campaign tell me one of the reasons they're focused so directly on latino voters at this moment is because of recent polls particularly in florida also elsewhere showing joe biden actually underperforming with latino voters at this point in time, and in a good reflection of that, just in the last few minutes, kendis, we learned mike bloomberg, remember him from the democratic primary, he's committing $100 million of his own money to help try to elect joe biden in florida with much of that money focused very specifically on latino voters. he's going to be airing television and digital ads in a mix of english and spanish. conte kendis? >> interesting move by mike bloomberg spent about half a billion on his campaign and throwing in another $100 million there. politico is reporting that trump officials -- this is scary --

while stuft about the hispanic stuff is stereotypical and a little race baiting, this is dangerous. the trump officials interfered with cdc reports on covid-19. what more do you know about this? >> well, it's a reflection, kendis, of what we've continued to see. an attack by the white house and the trump administration on a lot of these public career health professionals at the cdc, at the nih. the political appointees at health and human services, there's a media shop over there where they've essentially been trying to get the opportunity to review these mortality reports that the cdc sends out. the bake bread and butter statistics. how many people are dieing so that doctors around the country can make decisions about how to care and treat for their patients, but the trump administration wanted to be able to review them, propose changes potentially to make them more optimistic about the outcome of

the president trump administration's response to coronavirus, but real concerns this morning about whether that is going to make it more difficult for professionals in the health community just to have that basic information they need to make decisions. >> and for many people to be able to trust those decisions and that information that's coming from the cdc. josh letterman at the white house for us. thanks, josh. good to see you. we turn now to the biden campaign, and it's a weekend of virtual events. >> the vice president nominee, kamala harris participating in several events saturday including with small business owners in arizona calling on them to get out to the polls. following this for us, deepa, walk us through the latest on the biden campaign? >> reporter: good morning to both of you. yes, kamala harris was doing a virtual event with latino small business owners in this key state of arizona. kendis, you and i talked a little about this yesterday. arizona being a state democrats think they could flip blue in

this election, and, of course, early voting already kind of getting started. some of that voting starting on friday, in some of these states, crazy to think about. of course, 51 days until election day. so when you look at the rhetoric that kamala harris has been using in some of the events doing in the past couple of weeks and months since tapped as joe biden's running mate, a lot of these focused on communities of color. doing roundtables. did one in miami two weeks ago and one here. they're trying to build coalitions as donald trump has also been trying to win over the hispanic vote. take a listen to what kamala harris said yesterday in trying to bring out some of these voters. >> we all need to make a plan to vote. we have too much at stake. immigrants have too much at stake. working families have too much at stake. so we must take action. we cannot sit this out.

>> reporter: so you hear there kamala harris talking about immigrant families specifically, and you remember, she is a child of immigrants. talk how she's reaching out to these communities she's really tapped in to being able to relate and it stands out as quite a contrast compared to how donald trump has been doing some of this outreach, which you heard agents earlier. kendis and cori? >> thank you. joining us now is jonathan allen, nbc news senior political analyst. and now we have the outdoor view from jonathan allen. switched from the fireplace to the outdoors. jonathan, good to see you. what we're seeing this weekend is a tale of two campaigns. the biden campaign you saw there holding virtual events. trump holding packed rallies outside despite covid-19 concerns. how effective would you say this whole virtual effect versus the president's approach? >> reporter: huge advantages,

kendis, if you are the biden campaign, do fund-raisers, do your outreach without spending money on airplanes, on staff travel, on the actual candidate time that it takes to get around the country. and you can reserve that money for your television advertising, for your digital advertising. you can have your candidate doing back-to-back-to-back events very quickly. so from that perspective, there's an advantage to the former vice president. the disadvantage, of course, you don't get the optics. you don't get the big crowd rallies. you don't get the feeling from voters in those states that somebody has come to see them. and that's a big, important thing. former president bill clinton had a period of campaigning, if you went to a lot of small places, even not necessarily the big cities in a state, that word would get around the state that you cared about towns like the one you went to, and that you get the press attention from being there, and that that would

have secondary tertiary effects. there's loss there for the former vice president. >> and the president doubling down on familiar messaging. listen in. >> don't let them ruin the sbubs. suburbs. and with that comes tremendous crime. >> you know, i was being, talking the other day. darling, somebody just moved next door. who is it? it's a representative of antifa. she will look at her husband and say, darling, we're outta here. >> this is the "washington post" reporting about growing number of women who regret voting for trump. writing in pennsylvania white women say they're fed up with trump's recklessness, divisiveness, lack of empathy. lack of leadership, many say. specifically, his mishandling of the coronavirus crisis and encouragement of violence that cemented their decision to vote for biden. several say they know that

they're the target of trump's message and alarmist messages no doubt, but they think the country would be in a more peaceful and stable stretch with biden in charge. based on what we've seen from polling, jonathan, based on what we're seve from voters telling us directly, do you think the president's message here, this alarmist message, is sticking? >> reporter: cori, it's sticking with his base for sure. and i think that's where it's intended. when he talk and the suburbs, he is talking about some old conception of the suburbs. what we know about what we think of as suburbs is for a long time they have been diversifying the suburbs are not some sort of, you know, completely as the president would suggest all white enclaves. you know, this idea he has sort of sends from, i don't know, the 1950s or something. depends which suburbs you're talking about. if you're around washington,

d.c., if you're -- around atlanta, georgia, around cleveland, ohio, these are diverse suburbs. these are suburbs where you have, you know, mixes of education and income, and so what he's speaking to is for people moving away from not only from cities but from suburbs for a long time, into what might be defined as ex suburbs or rural areas that still kind of consider themselves suburban. so i think that's what he's, what he's trying to get at, and i don't think the coded words are, you know, particularly coded. as far as white women voters go, you know, we have been seeing a significant move away from donald trump and away from republicans over the course of the last several years. >> all right. jonathan allen, our "better homes & garden" correspondent

joining us. thank you. now to the breaking news out west. deadly wildfires continue to rage. dozens missing. in california more than 3 million acres have already gone up in flames. nbc's aaron mclaughlin is in northern california where the north complex fire is still raging. erin? >> reporter: hey, kendis, right. this is actually the scene. you drive down the road here acre after acre of this kind of scorched earth here in california, and so many lives have been impacted by these fires. i was speaking to a man whose mother is missing. she was home with his aunt and uncle here in berry creek. he said he last spoke to her tuesday night. by the morning he said he couldn't reach them. he knows that his aunt and uncle

perished in the fire and now he fears for the worst, and fire officials say they are worried that there are dozens across california and oregon missing, also feared dead as they move in to these scorched towns, and areas, especially there in oregon searching for those missing. they worry that the worse could be an eventuality, and so many displaced. 500,000 people in oregon under evacuation orders. we were speaking to one mother, a single mother of five who had to evacuate and said her house went up in flames. they have nowhere to live. she's now living with three of her boys in a motel and trying to explain the situation to her children. she's telling them at least we have each other. story after story of sorrow and anguish across the west right now. kendis? >> wow. >> so many harrowing stories indeed.

erin mclaughlin from northern california, thank you. new hope this morning for ka covid-19 vaccine. >> what is the overall expectation for the vaccine and when will it be available? ♪ ♪ ♪

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clinical trials for a coronavirus vaccine are back on after being shut down for safety reasons earlier this week overseas. is this unusual and a good or bad sign? >> nbc's kathy park explains. >> reporter: in the uk, phase three clinical trials for astrazeneca's coronavirus vaccine are back on after hitting the brakeserer this week when a participant got sick. >> how often do the trials start and stop? >> it's very common to happen in clinical trials for drugs and vaccines but we don't hear about them because of not much attention paids to the trials.

>> reporter: september 6th, a voluntary pause reviewing a safety data. adding trials in the uk are safe to resume. around 18,000 people received the vaccine in partnership with the university of oxford. the team considered one of the front-runners in the race for a covid-19 vaccine. >> this does slow them down a bit and i think we'll see more and more of that as time goes on. it shows number one the safety protocols are being looked at very carefully. >> reporter: back in the u.s., growing concerns over covid clusters especially on college campuses. in ohio, police cited several people at a house near miami university during the labor day weekend. body camera footage captured a stunning exchange between an officer and a student. >> there's an input you tested positive for covid? >> when was that? >> a week ago. >> are you supposed to be quarantining. >> yeah. that's why i'm at my house.

>> other people are here and you're positive for covid? >> reporter: and for the second time in one week, hundreds packed a new york city park. a party with few masks and little to no social distancing. >> everyone's having so much fun. like, this is -- this is honestly, at time that i love, i love it and so happy here. >> what? >> all right. that was kathy park reporting. so you saw that. that wasn't even on klemp camco campuses. the "new york times" found 88,000 cases and at least 60 deaths since start of the pandemic. >> joining us, a pediatric emergency medicine physician, and by defense and public health expert, biodefense. and i don't know if you can see the video. a group of young people in new york city singing, "i don't care. i love it," not social

distancing. partying no masks. you see scenes like that, hear of incidents like that and what do you think? >> one, it makes me go back to my college days, to are perfectly candid and where you basically kind of were partying and living the life, but -- >> you weren't in college during a pandemic. >> sadly, during this time it's very challenging. you have to understand their perspective. it's shown in that developmental stage as a young adult they're in the "denial" age, and pretty much, "it's about me" phase. it's sad and something we have to really talk about, and i think a lot of college campuses really have to grapple with that. even to the point where they're reprimanding, being fined or expelled from school, but they're part of the spread. it's an issue. a fact we have to deal with and factor into our plans. >> doctor, switching gears, i

should say, to the vaccine and news about the astrazeneca vaccine and kind of coming back up and running. were you surprised to hear it was just a few days after being put on hold? is that typical for timing? >> that is typical for timing. with these processes, it usually takes a while. it goes back and forth, stop-start. like the military. hurry up and wait. get everything going and then you have to pause. they're actually taking safety as paramount, that's a good thing, and trying to identify problems or snafus with the vaccine. there are two sides to it. the problem i do have. basically, when there's an incident like this, the public needs to be aware of what's going on. the details of what happened with the final or whatever issue with one of the vaccines was not really disclosed. we just know about the spinal

cord, different things can happen, weakness, paralysis, we don't know exactly what happened but at least we know they're stopping, looking at the science and data and putting safety first. so that's reassuring. >> is it also unusual, though, that they ramp it back up so quickly after stopping? >> so the ramping back up, yes. and there are other competitors. you have to understand the landscape of the public/private partnership in this case and the manufacturers in a race against each other in a sense, but they are all working together to try to get the vaccine out. the speed at which they return to it may be questionable but i don't have all the data yet. we don't. until we know we'll have to just kind of have one eye open kind of like, hmm. okay. pause and let's watch what happens. but, yes. it does raise the eyebrow. there's some ambivalence there, no doubt. >> doctor, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> my pleasure.

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we have breaking news we're continuing to follow this morning. two los angeles county deputies, sheriffs deputy, shot multiple times while sitting in their patrol car. >> gadi schwartz has the latest from los angeles for us. gadi, told that these deputies were basically ambushed while they were sitting there outside of a train station? >> reporter: that's right. good morning, kendis and cori. those two deputies right now are still in the hospital after surgery. we know a little more about them. one is a 31-year-old mother of a 6-year-old boy. the other, her partner, a 24-year-old man. both seen shot sitting in their squad car. now, the sheriff's department released that video but a quick

warning it is very disturbing. in it you see what you just described as that ambush. a man walks up to a parked sheriff unit near a bus line in compton pulled out a gun and opened fire several times before running away. immediately after, one of those deputies is able to stumble out of their car and call for help. so far the only description the deputies have been able to provide was that it was a dark-skinned male and this morning there is a massive manhunt across los angeles as investigators try to determine a motive and try to collect any other video or evidence that might lead them to that shooter. last night the sheriff said they would not back down. >> our job does not get any easier because people don't like law enforcement. it's -- it's going to be a challenge day after day, however, the sheriff's department will never be deterred and in keeping our passengers safe on the mta lines, keeping our communities safe. we're committed to that. >> reporter: overnight the president weighed in tweeting,

the shooter is an animal that must be hit hard, and at some point in the evening deputies say they arrested several protesters at the hospital where the deputies are receiving treatment. witnesses say the protesters were chanting "death to police" and blocking entrances to the hospital. so far no word on the gunmanned who is still out there. back to you. >> horrible headlines coming out of that and saying they have a very vague description of that suspect, gadi. in part, surveillance while you watch it, it uses a fisheye lens. hard to tell the height or any details of that person. >> reporter: yes. it's not an effective description at all, really. >> yeah. and just horrible that so many protesters gathered there, witnesses saying they blocked entrance to the hospital. terrible stuff out of l.a. >> both deputies in critical condition this morning.

thank you. a sheriff deputy on administrative leave an video of a traffic stop went viral. a warning. some may find this video disturbing. [ screaming ] >> he said he can't breathe! officer, officer! he said he can't breathe! he said he can't breathe! >> the incident happened as attorneys identified the victim as herbert walker. one of the officers repeatedly punching him in the head. you can see blood at certain times although he appeared to be subdued. walker's lawyer -- says that -- he was a passenger in a list vehiclist lyft car. he had no i.d., asked to get out of the car. no clear what led up to the incident when this is seen in the video. >> how does a taillight being broke end up with a man being

beaten in the way he was beaten in a chokehold almost dieing? we are here demanding that he get out of jail, but we could unfortunately be talking and mourning his life. >> i just want my son home, because he was beaten real bad and did nothing wrong. >> clinton county sheriff victor hill tweeted that the deputy involved is on leave and his own internal affairs unit will investiga investigate. walker remains in jail charged with obstructing and battery, but in that video, cori, you could hear walker's kid from the lyft screaming, daddy, daddy, daddy. also a sheriff department with a fairly dodgy past when it comes to law enforcement. >> very difficult to watch. we're also following more breaking news. newly formed tropical storm barreling towards the u.s. gulf coast. >> we expect an update top of

the hour from the national hurricane center about sally that formed off the coast of south florida and could become a hurricane. any moment now. possibly as soon as today, louisiana's governor has declared a state of emergency, and some parts of the state are being told to evacuate later today. nbc's meteorologist bill karins is here to break it down. bill, good morning. >> well, good morning. the situation is very serious. for essentially areas of new orleans. the storm forecast supposed to be stronger and be now over top of new orleans going through late monday night and all day tuesday. get you into the latest here as far as the forecast goes. the storm now is exiting florida. dumped as much as two feet of rain in the keys. impressive, historic rainmaker. now the storm will have about two days over warm waters of gulf of mexico to intense inten.

the track goes west and due north. the worst-case scenario for a storm path because the right front quadrant where the worst of the storm is, strongest winds, would push all that aware into areas of eastern louisiana including lake pontchartrain and coastal areas of mississippi. and we expect the worst storm surge there and expect wind damage, too. 100 mile-per-hour winds at landfall. 80 mile-per-hour sustained winds over top of new orleans. it's the storm surge that has me most concerned. the first problem. the second problem, torrential rainfall. notice the storm surge not a big issue from pensacola througheni and mississippi/alabama border, six to seven feet. an 11-foot storm surge is possible depending where the landfall position is to the right. that little area near the accs

new orleans, the levee system would have to protect 7 to 11 feet of water. and pontchartrain, storm surge four to six feet plus wage acti waves. in addition to all of that, at the same, exact time, we have potential for this epic rain producer of 10 to 20 inches of rainfall right over the top of new orleans. so the pumps will have to get rid of that amount of rain, which is like historic torrential rain, and the storm surge as the storm approaches and on top of that, of course, the wind damage too. a trifecta of issues for the new orleans area and all of our friends there in southern mississippi. especially in portions of southern article al to actually get this too. as of right now, new orleans is under a hurricane warning first time since 2017 and a storm surge warning. flood watching issued, too. this will be a multibillion

dollar weather disaster. multiple facets. 48 hours, guys, to see how strong the storm can get. i know for sure we are going to have historic, horrific rainfall. this is a slow-moving storm. what we don't know yet is how much can this storm intensify by the time it gets to new orleans? so as we said, they have a lot of difficult decisions. as of now, people outside the levee system have been told to evacua evacuate. we have to wait and see what the city mayor and also emergency manager decides how many people inside the levees if they need to evacate. a tough call for a category 2 predicted storm. >> all of these factors coming together here. very dangerous and a scary situation. bill,tracking it all for us. >> and we stress over the weekend, maybe not paying attention when it started to form and getting its act together. they need to get people's attention on a sunday, a football sunday. going to be difficult. >> with a big game that will get

the attention and many saints fans -- yeah, all rightant important to note. 48 hours, and evacuations could take longer than that. good call. officials need to start making the calls quickly here. turn to the middle east now where the afghan government and taliban have begun historic negotiations. the two sides bet in qatar saturday with secretary pompeo in attendance. a peace deal that could end decades of war. joining us from paris, we have more. are afghans optimistic about the prospect of peace? >> reporter: of course, afghans are hopeful and they welcome the prospect of peace, but this has been a blistering 20-year conflict, and afghanistan is a place where hope is hard to find. this historic meeting between the afghan government -- and taliban -- could be beginning of the end for the longest war in

u.s. history. >> afghans have at long-last chosen to sit together and chart a new course for your country. this is a moment that we must dare to hope. >> reporter: the u.s. made its own peace deal with the taliban in february. but with so many afghans killed, there's no love lost between these two sides. i spoke with a taliban representative in doha two years ago. >> sounds to me once the u.s. withdraws its troops you will seek to topple the afghan government as it currently is in kabul? >> that's supposition. we want to mend things. an in a land that is spated . >> reporter: if the taliban doesn't reach those goals in these negotiations, well, they're prepared to keep fighting for as long as necessary. they say they'll fight for yore 20 years. cori? >> nbc's matt bradley in paris

this morning. matt, thank you. the home stretch of the 2020 campaign is here. so starting this weekend, ali velshi is hitting the road. stopping in different battleground states crucial to the election, talking with local and state leaders, and american voters, about the issues that will decide the presidency. today he's in minneapolis socially distanced from his voters. ali hosted a socially distant discussion with a group of minnesota voters tracking what's at stake for americans this november. >> i am deciding to vote for the biden and harris ticket, because i have absolutely no confidence in the administration that we are currently with. i think trump has divided us, has not showed leadership. i'm very concerned about our economy. i'm concerned about the way that he has handled the covid crisis.

i don't worship at the altar of the democrats nor the republicans, but i feel like it just makes the most sense to do whatever we need to do to have this man removed from office. >> reporter: what the candidate, the candidate you're not voting for, is there anything they could do to get your vote? anything joe biden could say to you that would make you think differently? >> i don't think so. >> reporter: fair enough. that's the answer. that's okay. same question to you. >> nothing. >> reporter: nothing donald trump could do to change nor mind? >> absolutely not. >> the rest of that conversation coming up on "velshi across america 2020" starts today 8:00 a.m. eastern time joined by minnesota attorney general keith ellison. congresswoman ilhan omar, former senator al franken and amy klobuchar and senator bernie sanders. coming up next, an in-depth look how misinformation about the ongoing coronavirus may

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online misinformation about covid-19 could be impacting more than just public health. >> nbc's ben collins explains how false facts about the pandemic could affect the way americans vote in the election. >> you know, before covid there was misinformation in every country for sure. but in one country it might be about the prime minister and in another country it might be

about, you know, the response to some natural disaster and in a third country might be about some celebrity. what's happened with covid, there is misinformation on the same topic, in every country around the world. we're all talking about the same kind of emergency responses whether lockdowns or masking and restaurants closing et cetera. >> as scientists get closer to developing a vaccine, false information about the coronavirus continues to spread to all corners of the world. that presents a unique opportunity for jake shapiro. a professor at princeton with a team of researchers studying covid misinformation on a global scale. >> 2,00 dat2,400 databases. the ability to say what the trends have been in countries around the world. a drumbeat around the nation and status around particular individuals. misinformation about nature of the virus, origin of the virus, things like that that is really

dropped off dramatically. it's not really as credible as it once was to say, hey, this thing is just like a seasonal flu. like, generally people understand that's not true. >> some of this information is simply bizarre. a tweet from a fake cdc account claiming this actor had the virus, but some could carry long-term implications. >> the narratives we track and clear political motives. promote the policy for particular actor or denigrate the response or undermine a particular institution in a society. what that suggests to me is that the people using this information for political purposes are going to hop on whatever the issue of the day is and for the last six months in many places around the world the issue of the day has been covid. >> one of the biggest drivers of misinformation, fear. >> designed to make people scared. largest category for sure. about a third. >> as the united states face as

critical election without an effective vaccine, could fear keep freedom the polls? >> worries me a little bit more about covid, it potentially could be used for a targeted voter suppression. microtarget people on social media to scare them away from going to vote in person by sending lots of content, which emphasizes that the public health risks and dangers they face going to vote. the aspect i am more concerned with. it's highly targeted voter suppression that uses covid as the story to keep people away from the polls. >> shapiro warns the bigger threat, the same russian interference we saw in 2016. >> the national intelligence director came out and said russia is working hard to influence the 2020 election through creating false information and fake behavior on social media. that there's a direct assault by a foreign country on the integrity of our political discussion in our country. this is like a direct effort to

impersonate americans and produce content that is appearing as though it's produced in our country. >> but are we in a better position now than four years ago? now there are multiple companies that have large staffing working on this. and all of the platforms are out there looking for it. the intelligence community is tracking it. and various aspects of the government tracking it. way more done now than then. a much better situation for our democracy than 2016. >> ben collins reporting. i love the visuals he gives. that's how i best learn. hopefully that was really helpful for everyone. how the nfl is handling the coronavirus restrictions next. we talk about that. wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management. they fell in love with itsusing irresistible scent.

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which is down 30% from last year's game. dave, good morning. happy football sunday in america. are we supposed to make a big deal out of that ratings drop? >> not at all. it's the highest ratings that any sporting event has gotten since the super bowl. i think if you're the nfl, you're happy given the number of distractions in an election year, given the number of distractions with covid in their lives, i think they're happy for that number for the season. >> and given covid, what do you expect given the restrictions? >> you can't even give them a grade because they're operating in a completely decentralized way. it would be like if your attorney mcdonald's said, we're not selling hamburgers from now on, we're selling shrimp sandwiches. there is no nfl perspective about how they're going to

handle covid. so you have a place like i live where the covid rates are very low here in d.c., where in maryland they're going to say no people at all at the stadium, and then you have dallas where covid rates are very high, and they say, it will probably be less than half. there is no perspective about how they'll do distancing at these different stadiums. it will be catch as catch all. >> and some are allowing spectators while others are not. how do they make that decision? i guess it's based on the whim of the owner or -- how do they go about it? >> it's whims. >> okay. >> i've been tracking it in preparation for this appearance, and in some places the ownership is talking to health officials, they're trying to figure out best practices with the local government, but in most areas

it's what the cities nearby want to see. most people want to see fans in the stands. the nfl gets money from television rights, not people buying $9 beers, but they like the idea of fans being in the seats. given what happened opening night, of course, where fans were booing the moment of unity that took place between texas and the kansas city cheeiefs, i don't think the nfl wants to see a repeat of that. >> we're talking about how the nfl is handling coronavirus and social justice. how they handled social justice protests in the past compared to now, it's quite different. what's your take on that? >> the nfl is dancing as fast as they can right now. they are trying to avoid the players going out on strike. they're trying to avoid the players sitting out a game, so they're trying to show that they're far more sensitive to the concerns of nfl players around issues of social justice, and particularly issues of racial justice and police brutality. so they're going to be playing

"lift every voice and sing," what's known as the black national anthem, before games, they're going to have end racism in our lifetime in the end zone, but not every team is taking notice of that where it's all fluff and not substance. many teams are saying we're not even going to come out for the national anthem because of the tension. >> brady or brees? >> brees. not even close. i'm from new york city, so anything from boston causes me to automatically go the other way. >> dave, thank you. >> we always force people to choose, but we're not going to right now. >> miss patty's pies, yes. >> there we go. thanks, dave, and thank you for watching msnbc this morning.

>> we'll be back next weekend 6:00 eastern time. ali velshi is in minneapolis for his velshi across america 2020 series. almost done. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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good morning. it is sunday, september 13th. i'm ali velshi joining you today from minneapolis, minnesota. this is the first stop for

"velshi across america 2020." there are just 51 days remaining until voters head out to the polls in what is being called the most consequential election in our lifetime. now, that being the case, we decided to hit the road and join you every sunday leading up to that all-important day from a location critical to the outcome of the election. minnesota is one of those states, still considered by many as a swing state up for grabs. the minneapolis star tribune reporting that both presidential candidates, donald trump and joe biden, will be in minnesota this coming friday holding campaign events. but before we drill down on what's happening here, i want to take a look at this morning's top headlines. wildfires out west have now claimed the lives of at least 33 people, leaving dozens more unaccounted for. hundreds of thousands have been forced to flee their homes in california, washington and oregon. in