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"velshi across america 2020." there are just 51 days remaining until voters head out to the polls in what is being called the most consequential election in our lifetime. now, that being the case, we decided to hit the road and join you every sunday leading up to that all-important day from a location critical to the outcome of the election. minnesota is one of those states, still considered by many as a swing state up for grabs. the minneapolis star tribune reporting that both presidential candidates, donald trump and joe biden, will be in minnesota this coming friday holding campaign events. but before we drill down on what's happening here, i want to take a look at this morning's top headlines. wildfires out west have now claimed the lives of at least 33 people, leaving dozens more unaccounted for. hundreds of thousands have been forced to flee their homes in california, washington and oregon. in california alone, fires have
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destroyed 2.2 million acres. candidate michael bloomberg putting his money where his mouth is. he's committing to spending a million dollars in florida to help joe biden get out the vote. a trump campaign in nevada last night in trump fashion. thousands of attendees standing shoulder to shoulder, paying no attention to social distancing during a pandemic. this as confirmed cases across the united states has grown to 6.5 million. the death toll in this country can stands at nearly 195,000 people. let's turn back to minneapolis. i'm here on the banks. mississippi river. why kick off our coverage here? it's pretty obvious. out of extreme tragedy, which was the police killing of george
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floyd, this city sparked a nationwide movement to end injustice and bring about police reform. it's an effort that continues today across the country. floyd's passing became the latest symbol of racism and police brutality in america, marking a turning point as the 46-year-old man's suffering seen on video became a shared tragic reality. now, new details in the case after the four former officers who were charged appeared together for the first time in a court appearance. the "washington post" is reporting that officer derrick shovin is pleading not guilty, including an arrest in which a male suspect was rendered unconscious because of the tactic, according to prosecutors. several reports also say that during the appearance, counsel gave an account of what took place on that date, each officer
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apparently turning the blame off themselves. the trial is expected to get underway sometime in march of next year. members of the floyd family expressed their concern with the judicial process after the hearing. >> the one thing i want is accountability. growing up, that's what i was taught. be accountable for your actions. if you do the crime, you do the time. so why is it different for these guys? >> it was also here in minneapolis, while covering those protests that, i followed george floyd's death that i experienced firsthand the incredible tensions between the authorities and demonstrators. i myself was shot by a rubber bullet fired by police in riot gear into an entirely peaceful crowd just while trying to do my
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job. >> ali, it sounds like they're chanting, do it, do it, like they're daring the state troopers to do it again? >> i got hit. hold on. that time on the ground with protesters was one of my most difficult experiences in my broadcasting career. i wasn't seriously injured, but i did walk in the demonstrators' shoes who were simply trying to have their voices heard for systemic change, something their forefathers did while establishing this great nation. joining me, the attorney general for the state of minnesota. he's also the councilman for minneapolis' fifth district. we spoke many times during those days and shortly thereafter. can you tell us, since the movement started here after the death of george floyd, what's happened in minneapolis in the search for justice? >> well, people have come together, demanding change. we've seen substantive changes
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at the state legislature, proposals at the city council, and of course the george floyd prosecution moves forward. those three things, together with a lot of people learning more about the nature of injustice and equality in our society is really what's going on here. people are taking seriously embracing the possibility of change. >> what's different now than four months ago? in those early days, there were calls for the police to be charged. that subsequently happened. there were calls for systemic change within the police department, there were calls for change all across the political system. how have things evolved at this point? >> i think there's been a general attitude change, where before you had people demanding change, others saying we don't see a need for change. now there is a general consensus that the way things are isn't going to be okay. even a bipartisan legislature
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acknowledged it. chokehold policy needed to change. there is a general attitude that the way things were just cannot stay the way that it was. how far change goes, all of that is going to be determined in the months to come, but i think that minnesota as a whole understands that things the way they were just weren't working for everybody. >> this trial is not going to happen until at least next spring. there is going to be an election before that, and one might argue the things that happened four months ago in this city changed the trajectory, or at least will have some impact on that election. it will be the issue that so many americans will vote on, regardless of whether they were going to do so before. what impact do you think this is having, not just on minnesota, but on the country? >> you know, this is a good question, and we will find out for sure in november, but i can tell you, the people have intensified their engagement of voters. people are going out there working to engage people more and more often. we see that folks are making sure that nobody is left out of this political calculus, and we see a greater level of inclusion. i'm predicting very high turnout
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in minnesota because i think that people care about the issues, and they're going to show it on election day. >> as this has become a bigger and bigger issue over the last four months, perhaps americans have been a little less focused on the legal proceedings here in minneapolis. on friday the judge admonished prosecutors in this case. what went on there? >> it was a simple omnibus hearing. we looked at issues of gender, we looked at issues of change of venue, and we looked at scheduling. the defense did ask that some of the prosecutors, not the attorney general's office, be excused from the prosecution because in the eyes of the court, they put themselves in the position of being witnesses. that's all that happened with regard to that particular matter. it was not a big part of the hearing. it was a fairly small part of the hearing. as far as we're concerned, things went well. >> tell me when things changed. there was a point at the beginning of this when it was the district attorney for hennepin county who was handling this prosecution and it switched
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to your office. >> well, we are doing it together as offices. the hennepin county attorney's office and the minnesota attorney general's office are working together to bring forth this case. that is still the case right now. it's just certain individuals will not be part of the in-court prosecution. >> in cases like this, there is a part of it that is justice for what has been done, and there is a part of it that is really more dependent on structural change. obviously the courts only have a limited role in that which is structural change, but when i talk to people around minneapolis who love this city and love this state, they do remind us that there has been tension between the police and citizens for a long time. >> that's absolutely true. when i was a law student here 30 years ago, we were involved in issues of police-community relations. in 2019, ali, when i was a first term, first year attorney general, myself and the commission of public safety had a working group on reducing deadly force encounters with
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police. the year before george floyd, we were working on this issue in my official capacity and with the department of public safety. so this has been an ongoing problem for a long time, and the time is for change right now. >> attorney general, good to talk to you. i appreciate that you were making yourself available back in those days when there was some tough conversations. we will continue our conversation. >> thank you. >> attorney general keith ellison of minnesota. our policing and justice system has, as we've been discussing, been broken for decades. the deaths of george floyd and other black americans this year have just further exposed that fact. coming up next, i'll speak to a leading voice for equality in minnesota and the mayor of st. paul about police accountability. in a few minutes, you'll see my wide-ranging interview with a group of voters. i asked each of them what message they would like to convey to the candidate they're supporting in november. here's what independent chris
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. i'm here in minneapolis. the last time i was here was back in may to cover the death of george floyd at the hands of police and the widespread demonstrations that followed. since then, millions of americans have hit the streets in protests against police brutality and systemic racism, all of that despite the global pandemic, which is requiring us to wear these masks.
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millions asked for accountability for the cops, and the officer who was on his knee was arrested. accountability is largely lacking. it was months ago the killing of breonna taylor. there has been no accountability. jacob blake's killer has yet to be charged. according to data collected by the "washington post," more than 5600 americans have been shot and killed by on-duty police since 2015. of that number, 1,018 were killed in the past year alone. it is abundantly clear that something needs to change, but exactly how we force that change to happen remains unclear. with me to help parse this is melvin carter. he's the mayor of st. paul,
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minnesota, and tawana black, founder of the center for economic inclusion. welcome to you both. thank you for being with us. mayor carter, you and i spoke months ago while thfls undis wa underway, and while there were conversations underway about social justice, one of the conversations you keep bringing up is the structural problems of hiring of police and the contracts police have in police unions that prevent mayors like you from getting the reform that you need. >> that's absolutely right. thank you for having me on again. you're right, it was four months ago that we talked, and in that time we've seen the same thing from the federal government around this crisis has we have around the pandemic crisis, the economic crisis, and the answer is that's very little. in the meantime, mayors in cities in local communities across the country have had to act because of this action at the federal level. we've had to act, so we've seen
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mayors around the country try to rethink and renegotiate those contracts. we've seen mayors around the country, we're one of the cities doing that, rethinking our approach to public safety to make it much broader than just police, but a whole lot more is going to have to change. >> tawana, one of the conversations i had with voters here in minneapolis, which we'll air in a little while, people like to cite statistics to talk about police violence against blacks. depending how you parse them, they come out in different ways. i want to present them in this way. black americans are just killed at a much higher rate than white americans are at the hands of police. 1,329 black americans were killed out of a population of 42 million. 2 drks 2,555 white americans were killed. white americans killed at the rate of 13 per million, black americans are killed at the rate of 32 per million. how are we supposed to reframe
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this? >> we need to reframe this that white americans are just as outraged as they see black americans killed by police as they are with white americans, period. we need to evaluate the lives of black americans the same way we evaluate the lives of white americans, and this is the story of america's history, period. we need to see accountability, but it won't happen until all americans begin to value life and then start to enact policy that allow us to drive accountability of our police forces consistently across america in ways that show that value. >> mayor, i want to quote to you from a mother jones article which says, quote, the key to understanding why officers across the country escape discipline time and time again after beating or killing people by overturning firings, opposing the use of body cameras and lobbying to keep their members' disciplinary histories sealed, a challenge every mayor and governor are facing. is there any way to make these
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changes at a level that affects the 18,000 police forces across america? who does that? is that you and every mayor across america? is that state legislatures? is that the federal government? >> it's all of the above. we need action at all those levels. unfortunately, the bill we saw pass at the federal level did very little to go in the full direction, and very few state legislatures, frankly, have gone far enough. there are things we can do at the local level, but our hands are tied like those unions got written into the state legislation across the country to make it very difficult to hold people accountable, again, for things like shooting someone in the back seven times, things we know that if i had done or tawana had done, we would be held accountable for immediately. it makes it difficult to uphold the rule of law when we know there is a whole class of people held to an entirely different standard than the rest of us. >> tawana, how does the sentiment change? we're talking about policy
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changes, directive changes. if incentive doesn't change, that could be a problem. do you think in the last four months we've moved in a change toward sentiment, or have we moved the other way, with people going into their corners? >> studies show this sentiment isn't changing fast enough. for those where that sentiment is changing, it feels like it changes when it begins to affect you. when families start to diversify a little bit, sentiment changes a little faster, but it's not changing fast enough where people start to use their votes fast enough, where they hold their officials accountable that then drive real accountability on the ground. >> mayor, how does that change here? are you hearing people saying the only way we're going to change this is with our vote right now? >> i'm hearing people say that, and i tell you, the thing that gives me hope right now, as we see people in our communities across our country, in the streets speaking up on social
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media, athletes speaking up using their voice more so now than ever, that is the type of energy that has driven this country forward through every chapter through the civil rights and beyond that, and i think that's the energy that's going to continue to drive us forward as more and more americans say, enough, we've had enough, and we're not going to accept anything short of fundamental change around this. >> i want to thank both of you for your time and the work you're doing and for joining me on the banks of the mississippi river in this beautiful city of minneapolis. mayor carter and tawana black, the senior leader for the center for inclusion. here's what kelly wants to say to her candidate, donald trump. >> i would like to tell donald trump to keep on fighting the good night. you know, keep doing what he's doing, try to be a little bit
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today we're kicking off our "velshi across america 2020" tour. i'll travel to a different battleground states for each of the eight sundays leading up to election day and speak to voters in each state to understand their concerns about this pivotal election. to start things off, i'm in minneapolis, minnesota where i spent several days reporting on the protests here after the killing of george floyd.
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this state hasn't gone for a republican in a presidential race in almost 50 years. but recent election data appears to show that the state is in play for both parties this year. yesterday i held a socially distanced, properly masked conversation at the nicolette island pavilion with two independents, two democrats and two republicans. in a conversation we covered a variety of topics. they all explained to me which candidate they're supporting and whether they can be swayed to vote differently in the coming weeks. let's listen. >> janti, let me start with you because we're both immigrants. your opinion is important to me for this election. you're going to vote for donald trump. tell me about that decision. >> i'm not a person who votes for a person or who votes for a party. i look at the issues. for me the issues are yojobs an
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the economy. people care about their jobs and their future as a whole. now we need to stand with the president again, unite as americans and make him empower so he can build our economy back again for our country. >> alex, you're supporting joe biden. tell me why. >> i definitely many supporting joe biden, but i think even more than that, i really want to vote against trump. i really only became politically involved probably in 2016 is when i really started caring because i was worried about where donald trump would take this country. and i feel like it's been even worse than i imagined. there are so many things i care about that i just feel like he's actively fighting against, and so much of it has to do with the fact that i feel like there is more to this country than just economics and money. there is a soul to this country, there are certain things that our country has been founded on, like the right to vote and respecting all people and making sure that everybody has a right, everybody who is eligible has a right to vote. and i feel like all those things are under attack right now.
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science is under attack. i do feel like ultimately my decision to support joe biden, he was not my first choice, but at the end of the day, i do feel like he will turn this country around, and i'm really prayerful that he'll win. >> may i ask who your first choice was? >> i was supporting kamala harris and then amy klobuchar. >> chris, tell me your thoughts. >> i decided to vote for joe biden and kamala harris, and i think ilt's important to mentio both names. like alex, he wasn't my first choice. the first one is from a human center perspective, i feel like the current administration does not care about people. everything is tactical, everything is some sort of transaction. i feel like we're missing the heart of america in the current administration. the second reason is economic. and i feel like if we had had a proper federal response to the pandemic, our economy would have already turned around. for those two reasons, i'm voting for biden and harris. >> kelly, you're a trump
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supporter. >> that is correct. i did vote for donald trump in 2016 as well, and i'm going to vote for him in 2016 again. >> 2020. >> yeah, sorry. in 2020 again. but it's mostly because i'm a big proprietor of lower taxes, freedom, keeping jobs in america, being tough on china who is the largest intellectual property theft in the entire world. people might not like him because of his tweets and how he presents himself, but when you take that away, he kind of has done some really great things for this country. >> what are some of the things you think he's done? >> well, he has increased funding for historically black universities, he signed the right to try act. he's handled the pandemic pretty
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well. in january, early february, he had the china travel ban, anyone who is from china and not a u.s. citizen could not come to the united states. democrats called him racist for doing that, and now they're saying that he didn't do enough or didn't act quickly, so which is it? i mean, he didn't have a crystal ball. >> angelique, tell me your thoughts. >> i am deciding to vote for the biden and harris ticket because i have absolutely no confidence in the administration that we are currently with. i think trump has divided us, has not showed leadership. i'm very concerned about our economy. i'm concerned about the way that he has handled the covid crisis. i don't worship at the altar of the democrats nor the republicans, but i just feel like it makes the most sense to do whatever we need to do to have this man removed from
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office. >> well, i'm supporting joe biden. i originally was very enthusiastic about elizabeth warren, but i'm glad that biden and kamala are running, and i would have supported anybody against donald trump. i personally just feel that he's unfit. he's personally unfit, but also from even before the inauguration, his whole administration has been an assault on the rule of law, and the rule of law in the constitution is really what makes meramerica america. we all come from different places, we have different backgrounds, but the constitution is the one thing we all share. he took an oath to support that and i've just seen him not do that so many times. that's the bottom line for me, regardless of anything else. that's it. >> i want to ask you all
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separately what the candidate you're not voting for, is there anything they could do to get your vote? is there anything joe biden could say to you, callie, that would make you think differently? >> i don't think so. >> that's the answer. that's okay. same question to you. >> absolutely not. >> nothing donald trump could do. >> absolutely not. >> emmy? >> no. he should resign. >> i know you already said that, angelique. you're voting for joe biden because you think trump should be out. chris? >> there is nothing donald trump could do to get my vote. >> janti? >> i don't vote for a person, i vote for the issues. i need to hear from him more, and i'm glad minnesota is a battleground state, so both the candidates are visiting here. the minnesotans will be able to hear from them directly, but right now i will vote for the candidate who produces results and tangible results, and that's where i'm standing.
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>> do i sense that there is some possibility that joe biden could do something to get your vote? >> right now what is out there, i don't think there is any chance for joe biden to swing me to his favor. who knows the future, but right now i can tell you i'm voting for donald trump. >> all right. we'll have more from my guests in the next hour. coming up in the next hour, you're going to hear a portion of our discussion that focuses on policing and race in america. make sure to stick around for that. coming up next, minnesota has largely been a democratic stronghold for decades, but trump did only lose by a point and a half here in 2016. my next guest has the pulse for all things minnesota politics. . every curve, every innovation, every feeling. a product of mastery. lease the 2020 es 350 for $359 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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historically the state of minnesota where i am has been a solid democratic stronghold, part of the industrial midwest's so-called "blue wall." the state has gone for a democratic president in every election since nixon. but there are new warning signs that minnesota could flip. an article from "538" argues that changing demographics in minnesota are moving dates. quote, 53% of the population aged 25 and older are non-hispanic, white and lack a bachelor's degree, a demographic which republicans, and especially trump, have been
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gaining ground. now, the trump campaign thinks the state is right for taking, a senior adviser saying, quote, they're going all in on minnesota. a new poll out yesterday from the "new york times" shows biden with a nine-point lead. but a new one shows biden only with a lead of 4.5%. joining me now is someone i really appreciate on our show. anna marie cox. she is host of "the crooked media podcast with friends like these" and as as i recall, a guest on our very first velshi show on an early morning here in minneapolis. thanks for joining us. talk about this polling. one shows an eight-point lead, the other a 4.5-point lead. this state generally votes democratic, but it was really, really close last time. >> it was really, really close last time. as i recall, hillary clinton had actually a larger consistent lead in this state.
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now, i am hoping that pollsters have rejiggered that form lula. the red part of the state, which you can't see it from here, but it's based on everything around the city of minneapolis and the twin cities of minneapolis and st. paul. we, in some ways, look a lot like the rest of the center. there is a blue center and rings of red going out from that. interestingly, there is a little blue at the top like where all the hippies live. but what's interesting and what democrats might take a little bit of hope from, though they should take nothing for granted, is those suburbs got bluer and bluer in 2017 and democrats flipped the house seats that had belonged to republicans. so i think the red part of the state may stay pretty red. trump has been coming to minnesota a lot more than he did in 2016.
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he's coming to bimidgie in a week or so. i don't think that's going to help him in the suburbs. i think the more exposure he has to the suburbs, like the more the female, white, college-educated voters see trump, i'm not sure if that's going to help him. >> what about this thing that he's doing lately, talking about subsidized housing coming to your suburbs, wrecking your neighborhoods, ruining your property values. he drops senator cory booker's name every time he talks about it, that random black guy that he can talk about. does that dog hunt, does it start to worry people in suburbs? white people in suburbs? >> i think of all the people that you could name that might frighten people in suburbs, cory booker is not one of them. the vegan, right? the vegan who rescues kittens from trees. i don't think cory booker scares people, and also i look at what happened during the floyd
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uprisings, which people poured in from the suburbs. there was more help than they could use coming in to clean up that neighborhood. and i know that he is dog whistling to the point where it isn't even a dog whistle anymore, even cats may respond, but i just look at the black lives matter protest that took place in edina, in a suburb as stereotypical as edina. i think what those people are paying attention to, what those people are scared of isn't antifa coming to their suburbs, it's covid coming to their suburbs. it's the almost 200,000 people. this state has been hit not terribly hard, but, you know, one of my good friend's mom died yesterday morning. >> i'm sorry. >> everyone knows someone at this point. i feel like it's a little bit on a scale. i don't mean to trivialize any of these things, but the opioid
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epidemic where everyone knows someone. and i think that's what's going to be what drives people to the polls, and by the way, we do have a historically record high turnout in this state. there is no reason to take it for granted, but i think there is reason for democrats to be hopeful. >> the conversation i just had, i teased. i asked my panel of voters whether there is anything the other candidate can do that would cause them to vote for them, and only one of the six felt there was something. a trump supporter who says he hasn't heard enough from joe biden. you did a podcast recently about how people change their minds or don't. what did you learn? >> it's a whole series. and we learned a lot of really interesting things, everyone from a neuroscientist to several actual converts. one of the interesting things both research and anecdotal data backs up is that people don't change their minds because of what the politician says. what's really impactful to people is what their friends
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say, what their leaders in the community say, whether that's a religious leader or someone that they just look up to, someone in the pta or something like that. and that's why i think all the campaigns are missing door knocking this year. but i think that you're going to see people make arguments to their friends and neighbors, especially, i think, those that are trying very hard to get people to biden. trump supporters don't do the same kind of outreach, i believe it's safe to say. that people who are really trying to do what they think will save the country, i would agree with them. people who feel strongly about that, people who have switched their votes, you know, from voting trump last time to deciding to vote biden this time, i think that they'reie evangelists, and they'reie evangelists that are in the communities of the people that they want to reach. and i think that's going to be a lot more effective than anything biden or trump can say. >> mary ann cox, thank you for being here. thank you for being such a
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strong supporter. anna marie cox. wildfires are raging in little west and have now killed 33 people. officials say dozens more are missing. the flames in california have reached historic proportions. more than 2.2 million acres have been charred in the last month. president trump will visit sacramento county tomorrow. people in oregon are bracing for what they call a massive fatality incident. ten people have died in oregon alone, but officials warn that the death toll could be much higher. we're going to continue to monitor these fires. we're going to bring updates on the fires through the day on n msnbc. since the death of george floyd, minneapolis has been for police reform. where do the police stand on the death of george floyd?
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thank you for joining me back in minneapolis. a number of you are asking me on twitter why have i have a mask on if nobody is around me. there are guests around me. when there aren't guests around me, i take it off. the death of george floyd in may sparked a movement largely focused on restructuring and
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dismantling police departments to reallocate police departments. it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. at the forefront of this push in minneapolis, andrea jenkins, a long time city resident and the first black openly transgender woman to be elected to public office in the united states. she represents ward eight of this city, much of her work is on police accountability and with her ward including parts of minneapolis where george floyd was killed by police. i want to introduce andrea jenkins to you. you probably seen her on tv before. you and i had a chance to talk. there is so many things about you that are relevant to this particular story, the least of which you represent the area in which this happened, and you represent minnesotans who feel outside and left out sometimes of the social contract that the rest of folks around here enjoy.
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>> good morning, ali. yes, it is true. i represent ward eight in minneapolis. 38th and chicago is the intersection where mr. floyd met his really untimely and unfortunate demise and i do think there are many, many factors that went into his death and the subsequent unrest that has been happening all over the country, and certainly here in minneapolis we know that things erupted and there were fires and there were, you know, people being harmed and you yourself were even, you know, a victim of what i would call police brutality. so we need to reimagine public safety in our community and really try to bring justice to those who, as you mentioned,
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have just been left out of our cultural contract as it will, our societals contract that says everybody matters. everybody counts. and i think people are just really frustrated, angry, tired of this blatant disregard for so many of american lives and we're i think at a point of reckoning in our country. >> talk about reimagining public safety, you bring a remarkable perspective. you're a black transgender woman and talk about people whose society doesn't think of as inside that cultural contract and social contract, you know what it feels like to be fully on the outside of that social contract. what is reimagining public safety do? on one hand it about the provision, the city counsel, the justice system and police and on the other hand it's about convincing people they are not
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outside of the cultural contract. people like you that you deserve the same freedoms and justice and liberty and safety that anybody else does. >> absolutely. so, you know, when i think of defunding the police as it were and reimagining public safety, i think of it more in terms of refunding our communities, which means to me that we need to be creating opportunities for young people to be a part of our society to get training, to get job opportunities to be able to get mentors and have a sense of hopefulness of the future. we need to have, when i say reimagine, how can we have community responses to some of the issues that are plaguing our communities? mental health issues that so many people have negative
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interactions with the police. we saw that in upstate new york where men in buffalo, right, that was -- >> and in rodchester a situation. >> having a mental health crisis and it ended up in his death. and so we need to rethink how we address these issues and i think in the long run it really helps police officers because it frees them up to do the work that they really were trained to do, that they signed up to do. you know, they didn't sign up to be marriage counselors or drug counselors or, you know, mental health providers. that's not what their skill set is. we need to bring in people who can do that kind of work and really think about how do we even reimagine our entire society? >> do you actually want to
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dismantle the minneapolis police? >> i want to create a public safety system that provides safety, trust, and accountability for everybody. so we need this continuation of tools, mental health providers that include domestic violence counselors and then also to address the really serious criminal issues in our society. >> you are a symbol of courage for a lot of young people in america for the work you've done in your life and career and for being with us this morning. thank you so much. >> thank you. andrea jenkins is minneapolis city counsel vice president. we'll take a quick break, when we come back we got more of minneapolis and by the way, minnesota senator amy klobuchar
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