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doing specials and talking with you is you are about solutions, i am glad we ended this hour with something that people can actually do. i think that's what people want. thank you very much. on behalf of andrew and me, thank you for spending this hour with us. have a good night. ♪ i was tied up and tortured. these people almost murdered me. >> i was terrified. >> a mother just fighting for her child. >> that's universal. >> she survived a harrowing ordeal in one of the most dangerous places on earth.
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from across the world, her kidnapper found her again. >> did your heart stopped? >> it was so scary that he could find me. >> for the first time she shares her dramatic story how she helps secret agent hunt down her captor. >> the setting? a perfect island paradise. the plot? a daring under cover sting. >> we didn't think it would work. >> face-to-face with her kidnapper at last. >> i broke down. >> it is hard for you. >> this is real life pain. >> would she get justice? i fought the courage at that moment and i said i am ready. >> amanda. amanda, i love you. imagine being the mother of the
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other end of this call. >> if you guys don't pay $1 million for me by one week, they will kill me, okay? >> your daughter is a world away in the hands of kidnappers. >> both mother and daughter traumatized in their own ways by a captor. >> their stories are intertwined. >> my head is pulled back and there was a knife and her mother lorenda stewart. >> did you keep it together? >> i did. i had to be strong for her. >> these women would not only survived this ordeal but their determination in a completely
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new chapter of their stories would lead them into trial over one of the men who terrorized them brutally and would take an elaborate international sting. >> it sounds like it is out of a movie. >> it does, we refer this operation to a hail mary. this story began in canada. >> one constant that i wanted to be a world traveler and i want to go to every country in the world. amanda began to realize her dreams of seeing the world in the '90s. at 19 she was off to venezuela. >> we are driving in the back of a pickup truck, back to the town elena. the whole world was wide open to me at that time. >> so wide open, she kept moving and forward.
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>> going from indian and pakistan. it felt like a big deal for me and something i wanted to do and i did it. afghanistan is right next door. >> mom is concerned especially as her daughter is tracked into active war zone. she tried to talk her out of those trips but her daughter was head strong. >> wow. >> she resolved turning her wander lust to a journalism career. she wanted to get more experience but cover stories she cares about. >> i am also starting to look further out to the horizon. how far? one of the most dangerous places in the world. >> what other story that is are out there that i feel passionate about?
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at the top of the list was somalia. amanda knew she would have to tell her mother about her plans. >> you are thinking what? >> i would rather she did not go. >> yeah, i was head strong. i don't think i had spent enough time thinking about what would happen if something did go wrong. >> soon enough, she would find out just how wrong things could go. on the plane she remembers a fellow passenger turning to her and colleague with a stern warning. he said to me, your head alone is worth half a million dollars. you be careful. as amanda left the airport, the capital city was echaos. back at home, amanda's mother was worried about her daughter. >> i made sure every time i talk to her, i told her i love her. amanda got to work on her third
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day in somalia. she was in the car with nigel chasing the story. >> the vehicle started to slow down and i looked up. a dozen armed men were emerging and all of them with ak-47s. next thing i knew my door was opened and i find myself lying down and a gun he will in the back of my head. that was my life that moment and my life after that moment. >> in that moment she feared her life may end. instead she was picked up and shoved back into a car with nigel, three gunmen crowded into the front seat and several more in the back. she didn't know who they were or why they were being taken. >> we went on this wild desert drive off road. one of the leaders of this whole
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kidnapping operation was in the front seat. i asked is this about money. and he said to me "i may be something like that." all the way back in canada, her mother lorenda stopped hearing from her daughter and she began to fear the worse, she knew kidnapping were common in somalia. >> you must have felt to hopele hopeless. >> i knew i could not. >> she reached out to canadian official who told her it was a kidnapping by islamic rebels and they scrambled to set up a recording system in case the kidnapper called. >> the next morning my cell phone rang and it was the negotiator for the kidnapper.
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investigators had loreda leadnd the investigation. >> i don't want to say much. when this adam called lorenda on day four, he had a surprise. >> amanda, i love you sweetheart. >> proof that amanda was alive. after the first couple of weeks we realized that this may go on for longer than we hoped. on the other side of the globe, amanda could not know how long she would be held but fear the worse. i was the only female in a group about 16 men. so there was a lot of scary thoughts. coming up, the danger and terror
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escalate. >> amanda, amanda. stay strong, stay strong hun. >> later a twist straight out of a hollywood thriller. can amanda help turn the table on her captor. >> my heart started pounding and i started crying. when "the capture" continues. d g when "the capture" continues . o! safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! he's here. he's right here. - hi! - hi. hey! - that's totally him. - it's him! that's totally the guy. safe drivers do save 40%. click or call for a quote today.
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nearly a month after being kidnapped, one morning the captors came forem amanda and h colleague nigel, they were taken out of their room and marched outside. there is the man known as adam. >> we were terrified. >> a small video camera was brought out. we were told to beg for our lives.
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>> september 17th, 2008. lorenda turned on the tv in canada and saw this. it was the first time she seen amanda and she didn't look good. >> what were you feeling when you watched it? >> i want to bring her home. >> never, never let her go. >> weeks turned to months and their captor separated amanda and nigel. >> why was it so important? that day and days followed were among the very worse because suddenly i am alone with my own thoughts and my mind. >> amanda's mind ran wild, she feared she would be raped and one day a captor entered her room. >> it turns out your fears were justified. >> he did cross that line and my
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worst fears were realized and my whole experience of captivity really changed. somehow she held on and then one night amanda was awake and driven out into the desert alone and what happened next was terrifying. >> sthey brought me over a tree and my head is pulled back and there was a knife. >> i can't imagine the horror you must haves be been feeling. >> so many times in those first months i had feared that my head would be cut-off because it was something that they threaten us a lot. i was sure that was it. that they're going to kill me. >> must have felt an eternity. >> it did. >> i felt despair because i
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didn't wanted to b te the end. >> they handed you the phone? who was on the phone? >> my mom. >> the ruthless kidnapper told amanda she only had three minutes to plea for her life with her traumatized mother on the other end of the call. >> mama. >> amanda. amanda, i love you. amanda, how are you? >> listen to me. >> if you guys don't pay $1 million for me by one week, they'll kill me, okay? they brought me out to kill me. they given me one more chance to call you guys. >> amanda, amanda, stay strong, stay strong, hun. >> that phone call definitely made it harder not to let my
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imagination go. >> did you keep it together? >> i did. i did. >> how? >> i had to. i had to be strong for her. >> after the call, we sat there and cried. canada does not pay ransom to kidnappers. if lorenda wanted to buy her freedom, she was on her own. >> a world away in somalia. amanda and nigel locked in separate room discovered something. if they stood at their windows, they can hear each other. they began to hatch a plan. nigel realize that we may have a chance to escape out of that bathroom window which seems like an impossible idea.
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at the windows they plotted an escape straight out of a movie. that window had been sealed. as nigel discovered the morter that held those in place was crumbling. we had nail clippers that was given to us. >> little tiny things like this. >> to carve away at that crumbling border. >> each time they use the bathroom. they chip away the morter holding the bricks together blocking the window and they would replace the loose brick until one day the hole was big enough and they make a brig for it. from the moment i drop down at that bathroom window and i hear the sound blow, i knew it was bad. >> they sprinted for am mosque. right before we stepped in, i looked back and i saw one of our
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young captors. inside the mosque, one person stepped forward to try to help amanda, someone she will never forget. she came to me and she embraced me. she called me her sister in english. it was the first woman i had seen in about five months. when she hugged me and held onto me, it was the first time in that five months that i felt something to be safe. >> that feeling would be fleeing. i just clung to her and i started pouring my heart to this woman and she began pleading with my captors to let me go. >> her pleas were ignored. the kidnapper circled amanda and guns drawn and dragged her out
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of the mosque. that woman threw herself on top of me and was drugged part way across the floor with me until she could not hang on anymore and right before they pulled me out the door at the mosque, i looked back and i saw her on the floor. she had tears pouring down her face and she still had her hands out stretched to help me. >> you don't know what ever happens to that woman. >> i don't. >> adam and the gang clearly grew frustrated and adam took it out on lorenda. if i had the money, we would pay you. we are not playing games. it is you that are playing games. smoo the escape attempt made things much worse forem amanda. >> they tied your arms and legs
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and pulled your body up by ropes and weave you. >> yeah, it is very hard for me to go back to that and think about what happened to me during those three days. >> adam forced her on the phone again and it was one of the hardest calls to listen to. >> mommy, mommy. mommy, mommy, you need to pay the million dollars. they started to torture me. >> the call were agonizing. >> the family are desperate to have their kid home. amanda's captor came to her room. they marched me outside and had me sit down on a cement and they began sawing through the chains
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that had been on my ankles for ten months. >> amanda and nigel had not seen each other for months but now they are driven into the dark somalia night. we are both crying, guns surround the car that we are in. i think this is it. then a man appeared at the car's window. he says to me, why are you crying? talk to your mother. she said to me, amanda, you are free. amanda's mother lorinda never stopped negotiating. adam agreed to accept $680,000 for both amanda and nigel. the captives flew out of somalia, they were whisked away to the hospital. mother and daughter finally
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reunited. people asked me was that the first time i saw her. i know what they are envisioning like us running in slow motion and you know laughing and crying and whatnot. i barely recognized her. it was relieved. it was joy and it was heart achache to see her like that. >> we took a moment to look at each other, she never looked more beautiful than she did. i would not be here if it was not my mother. my mom gave me life and she saved my life. amanda was finally safe and back with her family. adam was not finished with them yet. a single word from him would bring it all back. >> coming up. did your heart stopped? >> it was so scary that he could
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amanda lindout lives back home in canada. she's trying to cope with the idea that the captor so terrorized her may never be brought to justice. as amanda tried to get her life back on track. there was an interruption. >> i had involved in a university program in eastern kan canada. it was during the break. i saw i received a facebook message. one word. >> hello. >> it was a message from adam. >> did your heart stopped? >> it was so scary that he could find me even though i was across the world and i was at home.
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s the disarming. >> that one simple message was about to launch a new and dangerous chapter of her story. the messages did not stop there. >> lorinda heard from adam too. her communication extended beyond the hello. >> you get this facebook message from how? >> it must have been shocking. >> it was a total shock. it was kind of terrifying, too. it just felt like it was in my space again. >> adam taunted lorinda because he had journals that amanda written in captivity that it helped her get through it all. >> what were you thinking? >> i was hoping i can get him to send amanda's journals. >> if lorinda wanted those precious journals, adam said she
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would have to pay. he tracked her down with more demands for cash. that's when she reached out to the royal canadian police. in ottawa a staff sergeant got a call from his bosses. at that point my team was engaged to pursue that to the full account. >> a 30-year veteran. his mission was find adam, if that was even his name. he reaches out on facebook which means you have his facebook address, right? >> we do. >> you know where he is, right? >> we know he's in somalia. we know and we suspect that he's using an alias. the principle course of action is who is adam? to do that we have to engage him directly to an under cover agent
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>> that's where this man comes in. he's a canadian investigator who is we agreed to refer to by his cover name, ak. we are hiding your identity and changed your look because you are an under cover agent. >> ak reached out to adam by phone. the under cover agent told him he was a media consultant for amanda's family. all she knew that adam's facebook triggered some kind of investigations. i knew there was a hope to catch this guy. ak and adam communicated on and off for years. it was slow work but ak knew pushing too hard could cradle the operation and patience paid off. >> one day i received an e-mail from him which is as scan copy
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of 16 letters. >> they look like letters but it was pages written from amanda's journals. >> adam asked for thousands of dollars for them. >> i said i sent you the letters, i don't need any money. i will let you get to the point where he trusts me enough now. adam told ak he was a scholar and wanted to write a book. a history of somalia. as i am plausib as implausible as it sounds, it was a way to get ak on the hook >> you are telling the kidnapper that you are going to help him publish a book. >> yes. >> it sounds like something out of a movie. y . >> yes.
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>> we always refer this as a ra hell mary. >> he convinced himself that he was able to write this book. >> that's your end? >> how are we going to move this forward and gather evidence, ultimately that's our goals. gathering the evidence and maybe one day bring him into jirustic. money, fame and the kind of bait that could trap her kidnapper. >> he struck me as a guy whose ego was so big, of course if somebody told him he's capable of writing something, he would think that. >> the hail mary play was in motion. investigators knew they needed more. the next move was to get adam to meet in person.
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amanda continues to recover and heal. part of that journey included sharing her story to the world. >> in my own life, friends and family and book club people saying to me have you read this book? you have reached a lot of people. >> most people never been kidnap. people know pain and lost and what i find is inspiration. investigators knew they had her kidnapper, adam, on the hook. they knew in order to get justice forem amanda. they needed more than long
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distance conversations. >> you need to see him. >> who's idea was it to meet face-to-fa face-to-face? >> it was his idea. >> where in the world to do it? >> somalia? too dangerous. canada? too risky. how about paradise. this island gem and crystal clear water and beautiful mountain vistas. ak convinced the kidnapper that he would serve as his book agent and invited adam here to talk about the project. >> adam lives in a difficult place to live and you are bringing him onto a place where europeans go on vacation. >> it solidify my status as an international business person. somebody had the means to get him what he wanted which is
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essentially a book contract. >> did you get nervous that adam figures out who you are. he turned to me and he said, what did you think of me? your english is great. and i turn it back to him, what did you think of me? first, i thought you are intelligence but now we are brothers. >> against a backdrop of serene stillness and beauty, the brothers talked and relaxed. they each had something to gain in this face-to-face meeting. >> he had one objective. getting that book deal. >> it seems like you had one objective. >> definitely. >> the object tiive was to see to see if adam was the man who terrorized amanda. that's where the phony book deal
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came in. >> we knew that he was interested in writing books. we brought a book cover he had designed and i was going to sign a crack with him lading oying o and mine relationship. adam would have to disclose any wrong doing in his past. a disclosure paragraph to encourage him to tell us his story. he signed an incredibly he told his story including details of his involvement in the kidnapping. >> can you believe he's saying all this? >> my head was dancing. it was amazing. you could not ask for better evidence. he even described his role in one of amanda's worst days, that hostage video. >> i showed him a video that aired on television and he pointed to himself as if he was really proud of this. i am the one that shot that
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video. >> amanda vividly remembers that video and adam that day. adam is setting a stage for this video. i would say there is a great deal of excitement and all of them doing this video. >> getting atetention and money. investigators accomplished two big things. they identify adied adam as the kidnapper and got him to admit his crimes. it was not enough to arrest adam. ak was prohibited to record the confession. >> you have no video or audio of what he's saying. >> correct. >> investigators wanted to have the strongest evidence in order to prosecute him under canadian law. >> you are leaving with success
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but you needed more. >> how did you feel when you left here? >> conflicted. >> as investigators, we succeeded in getting the evidence and identity. we have to let him go. it is like a catch and release program. >> in order to catch adam and bring him into justice, they're hoping to lure him further from home. a place where is they could control the setting, all the way to canada. how on earth would they convince adam to do that and how long will it take? >> this is dragging on for years. as the years past, i started thinking of the likelihood of that would diminish. >> investigators set a trap. >> i answered the phone and my heart started pounding. >> when "the capture" continues.
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amanda lindout knew investigators are doing their best and she did her best to help them. >> during these meetings, they could never tell me very much but enough to give me at least a little bit of confidence that they may be able to pull it off. >> ak and his team considered the under cover operation a success. it was not enough. they wanted to get amanda's kidnapper to confess his crimes on canadian soils. >> why did you want him to
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confess in kancanada? >> we wanted him in the country so we can deal with him. ak had to convince him the fake book deal israel. >> he thinks i am his book agent. >> it was my job then to send him a plane ticket which is different cull to difficult to do if you want to supply somebody out of somalia. >> you are going to bring an international kidnapper into kan canada? >> correct. >> that does not sound easy. >> the dichotomy is we are keeping him out. >> it would take time and threaten the operation. ak played the long game. i kept on putting him off saying we'll meet the publisher soon. at one point i had to fake a heart attack and that was the
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way we were able to put him off for a while. >> in real life you are doing other cases. >> finally after geayears of ha work, everything was in place. adam was on a plane to kands ca. he arrived to ottawa and we sat down and talked about the impending book deal. adam was looking forward to a different kind of future. little did he know that was precisely what he would get out. we had a border room set up and the book publisher arrived, him and i are old friends. >> you are both under cover agen agents. we had a chitchat and we sat down and built the crack. adam goes over everything he had done.
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>> so you will negotiate -- >> it played out like a movie. >> he's confessing to you his crimes. >> yes. >> after three months, you were still the person on the phone. >> yes. you are supposed to get some money. >> i want to get benefit. >> after that meeting, you walk out. >> we signed the contract and everybody was very happy. we were walking out because i had told them that we are going for a walk. >> you were both arrested.
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uniformed police handcuffed us. >> adam must have been shocked. >> you can see by his face. i had to play out get your hands off my client and what are you doing, it is ridiculous. >> they handcuffed us both, we went to different directions. i went for a beer and he went to jail. >> it had been years, amanda was tortured for 460 days and adam was in chains herself. amanda was home when she got the news. i answered the phone and my heart started pounding. he said "we arrested adam." i felt my knees -- i started crying. the next day i woke up and it was my 34th birthday and i am on the front page of every
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newspaper and canada, it was his face. a face that i have not seen in five years. >> i came in after and she was crying. thank god, thank god. they got
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authorities had their man, the kidnapping of amanda lindout. they got him in canada. the police announced adam's capture to the world. >> this investigation. >> it would take everything she had to do it. >> i am going of to testify and i am going to have to happen, aa would have to assist the prosecution team in billing the case. we would meet every couple of months for two and a half years. >> wow, it is exhausting.
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>> there were still act ive trauma in telling the story. i appreciate the time they stood with me and guiding me through the process. as the trial date got closer, i can't even say it became easier. the idea of facing him caused me a lot of pain. >> the lead prosecutor, what was the biggest challenges? >> my recollection was more than 700 e-mails between ak and adam alone. the second challenge was are there witnesses able to testify? >> the man known to amanda and lorinda as adam was a 40-year-old somalia national. he pleaded not gil tuilty to
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kidnapping. >> this is the biggest day of my life. "dateline" was with her that morning as she made her way into the courthouse. >> what was going through your head and what were you worried about? >> i was so afraid to see this man again. >> the thought of seeing his face. i gathered myself. i need todd ed to do that as mu myself than anything. >> it is still hard for you. >> it is. >> i expected it will always be. this is real life pain. >> the doors opened and i walked into the courtroom and adam was sitting directly in front of me. i kind of crumbled. >> now came the moem foremment for amanda to testify against her kidnapper. >> can you describe it for me?
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>> she was crying and upset and afraid. she swung her head over and looked at adam and she stopped crying and gave him a look that i would never anyone looking at me like that. >> what kind of a look? >> it was a firm resolve. >> seeing him sitting across from me as a prisoner in that box. that was the truth now. >> reversal. >> he looked so small in a way sitting in that box. >> in her testimony, amanda spoke openly about how adam terrorized her. she was on the stand for one long day. >> okay, my name is adam. >> her mom lorinda spent three days in court listening to the phone call that would prove crucial to the case. >> i am not lying to you. >> you do not want amanda to be
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harmed. >> again, you have to relive it? >> yes. the truth was being told. and there was small part of me that felt sorry for him. >> compassion for him. >> adam's defense was he, himself, had been taken hostage and they had threatened him. > >> in the end, his defense did not work. he was found guilty of kr kidnapping for his crime. he was sentenced to 15 years, victory forem amanda lindout. i am the one who'll go out and live the lesson of this. i choose to lean into the lesson
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and challenge of finding forgiveness, compassion, and peace. those words bringing to a close not one but two improbable stories, of amanda's kidnapping. >> ten years of your life. >> worth it? >> absolutely. >> he's sitting in prison right now in this country. do you think about that ever? >> i don't take joy in any suffering of any human being. >> have you for given adam? >> i can't say yes or no to that question because it is not a forgiving because adam deserves to be forgiven. i am not full of anger all the time and i keep pointing my feet towards forgiveness.
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towards forgiveness. ♪ > i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> she was receiving a long rambling e-mails threatening her life saying that her husband is cheating on her. she's telling her to watch her back. she better get out of the picture. >> menacing e-mails sent to a newlywed. >> the new wife went to authorities and said she was being harassed. >> that's when all the fireworks started happening. >> obviously, this has to stop. >> what arrived next appears far worse. >>

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