that is going to do it for us tonight i will tell you, it is 49 days from the presidential election right now. it's two weeks from the presidential debate between trump and biden. only two weeks from now? ah eat your wheaties. stay ♪ good morning, everybody. it's wednesday, september 16th, i'm yasmine va suz yan we want to begin with hurricane sally. the storm is moving slowly towards the northern gulf coast, bringing with it flooding rain and potentially life-threatening storm surge, particularly in parts of alabama and in florida's panhandle. want to start here with bill karins to give us a sense of thousand storm is moving and what exactly we can expect from this storm over the next 24 hours or so. bill, take us through this this morning. >> well, good morning, everyone.

just waking up the eye of the storm is moving over golf shores alabama. we'll get landfall confirmation likely in the next three to four hours. it is crawling it has been just an epic rainfall producer throughout areas of southern alabama and western florida as we figured. the storm shifted even further east the worst is right over pensacola this morning right now they have a storm surge of 4.5 feet. they've gotten estimates of 1 to feet of rain and storm surge of 4 feet they have water coming in all different directions especially right around the orange beach area to pensacola the area of greatest concern and the most wind damage in gulf shores the storm is just south of the alabama coastline, close to making landfall. it actually went from 85 mile-per-hour winds and jumped up to 105 to a cat 2 last night. here is a close up view of the northern eye wall. you can see golf shores now clearly heading into the center of the storm, in the eye of the storm. you can see that forecast

position latest update at 5:00 a.m., category 2, it's only 10 miles south of gulf shores the eye itself is fairly large again, at 3 miles per hour landfall in the next two to three hours definitely pensacola, you're in the worse of the northeast right quad raunt what we call the dirty side of the storm. the winds are out of the south the water is piling into pensacola bay as i speak the worst of the storm surge will be over the next 3 to 6 hours in pensacola bay anyone who had thoughts of mobile area, the wind is blowing out. so we are not seeing the horrific storm surge in mobile bay. the water is actually blowing out to the gulf. that was good news for them. but what was good news for the mobile area has been bad for the orange beach, the pensacola, even around wright beach and ft. walten beach the water areas are higher than you expected we lost a lot of our wind gauge

where the storm is making landfall mobile 64 mile-per-hour winds. at least that's still reporting. now that heavy rain shield is starting to move into central alabama. that will be the story today the flash flooding so right now, 105 mile-per-hour winds. it's still going at walking pace that's only an average human walks at 3 to 4 miles per hour that's how slowly the storm is going. here is the new forecast path, yasmine, we go through this morning, 1:00 p.m. this afternoon, the storm will barely be north of pensacola. incredible rain-producing storm system life threatening right now and the worst part, yasmine, the people in pensacola didn't feel this would be this huge blow to them and now they're getting the worst of it. >> all right so bill, as you were just mentioning, pensacola getting the worst of it right now. we want to try to go to pensacola, florida where we find sam brock.

we are trying to keep and establish a connection with sam. hopefully you can hear me this morning, sam, as bill was just talking through this you're experiencing the worst of this thing high winds lots of rain this thing at a walking pace and then there is that deadly storm surge. take us through this morning, sam, what you are experiencing on the ground. >> reporter: yasmine, good morning. bill was lock in step from what i was hearing from people on the ground in pensacola when they told me they weren't expecting this it's only a few days ago that new orleans was potentially dead center for hurricane sally and started to shift to biloxi and gulf port now on the panhandle of florida on the dirty side of this system right now. the first thing you notice is the wind speeds. if i talk to you long enough at some point i'm going to physically be moved while i'm talking with you i'm a big guy, yasmine the winds are that strong and

continuing to build. the rain coming down heavily as well if you look over my shoulder for a second, once we have light because it's been flickering on and off, over my shoulder is a street here, jefferson it has turned into a river okay we're pretty early on in this entire process and that street has two or three feet of water in it. i've been watching it's coming up through the bottom of those wheels of the cars there and continuing to rise on the other corner you can't see from here, there's a street light that's just dangling the middle of intersection, yasmine, still has its light going red to green. the storm surge and rainfall truly concerning pensacola police tweeting out over night there are too many road hazard to name. don't get on the roadways. if you have a generator right

now, make sure that you don't have it near an open window because that can be deadly right now just to give you context, pensacola, where we are right now, i'm about 6.5 miles from where pensacola beach is. really footsteps away from the bay that bill was just talking about. we're reasonably close to where a lot of those water sources are. 11.68 inches is the record for pensacola in a single day of rainfall that was 64 years ago. we may break that today. of course, we're going to keep an eye on everything as these conditions are evolving. it could be a 12-hour window of torrential rain and strong wind gusts coming through periodically and lashing us. >> as bill said, a walking pace. sam, stay safe for us, please. i'm going to be checking back in with you throughout the hour in pensacola, florida, feeling the brunt of this storm right now. thank you, sam i want to take a look at the wild fires as well that are happening out west

oregon state police have opened the first-over mobile morgue in response to historic wild fires that officials say are expected to result in dozens of deaths. although there's progress by firefighters in the area oregon known wild fire death toll stands at eight fatalities 50 people remain unaccounted for. that number is fluid and may rise as continuing efforts remain there a brief, long awaited rain arrived along the oregon coast yesterday. clearing up the skies in some parts of the state officials warning that dangerous smoke will remain in the air through at least tomorrow. want to turn now to the state of the presidential race with 48 days to go until the election, a new poll out of wisconsin is showing another commanding lead for joe biden in

the swing state, the latest cnn ssrs poll puts biden ahead with a ten-point poll, 52, 42 another poll out of north carolina joe biden and donald trump in a statistical tie then we move to florida. the latest monmouth university poll there showing joe biden with a five-point lead 52, 45. the poll shows president's 17-point margin among seniors in 2017 has all but evaporated. trump is ahead 49 to 47 among voters 65 and over, a statistical tie with biden there. the polls showing bide within a whopping 26-point lead among latino voters in that state. a major swing from the nbc news marist poll last week showed trump ahead by four points a difference due to the small sample size of voters in both sets of these polls and biden holds a significant advantage in

seven counties where the vote margins were closest in 2016 he leads trump 60 to 33 in florida's swing counties all right. also, we are talking about florida because joe biden used his first 2020 visit to florida to address the military community and sure up support amongst latino voters. first he stopped in tampa, where he spoke about the need to support service members and the v.a. and biden blasted his president for his widely reported marks disparaging those who serve this country. >> quite frankly, i won't say -- quite frankly makes me very upset the way he gets in front of a camera and crows about how much he has done for veterans around turns around and insults our service members and fallen heroes when the camera is off, calls them suckers and losers. they didn't come home losers they came home heroes. and i think it's an absolute

disgrace donald trump has no idea about the ideas that animate women and men who sign up to serve duty, honor, country, donald trump doesn't seem to be able to conceive the idea of selfless service or being part of a cause that's bigger than yourself. >> biden then attended an event for hispanic heritage nont kissimmee, florida, outside of orlando there. he released his plan for puerto rico as he visited oseola county the biden camp hopes the growing puerto rican community in central florida after hurricane maria will help offset the number of cuban americans who are more likely to support the president. let's get into some of this, joining me now congressional reporter for politico andrew good morning great to see you on this wednesday. >> good morning. >> let's talk about biden's

visit to florida could be, if not, the most critical state for this election coming up. talk us through it >> well, the state has 29 electoral votes and biden could still win the presidency without winning florida but it makes it much easier for him to do so if he does win florida. the president obviously won florida in 2016 by a pretty comfortable margin then in 2018, most of the statewide races at the mid-term the mid-term elections went to republicans, ron se sdesantis ws elected governor so, you know n terms of recent history here, republicans have faired much better in florida than democrats have. something that joe biden still has to sure up is addressing latino voters, particularly in south florida. you just mentioned that cuban and venezuelan immigrants tend to be more conservative.

they are sticking with president trump, especially because of the -- on economic issues, according to these latest polls. that's something that joe biden is going to have to address in the coming weeks here if he wants to win florida >> so, give us a 30,000 foot above overall look at the state of the race right now as i ticked through some of these polls earlier going through some of the states as we mentioned florida where he leads with latino voters compared to the nbc news poll last week where trump led with four points i also ticked through north carolina as well and wisconsin so talk us through that. >> right so the midwest will be incredibly important obviously the president won pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin by very, very small margins in 2016. and you know, if the president wants to win re-election, he's pretty much got to hold all three of those and joe biden is absolutely going to try to eat into that lead the the president had there

in 2016. a lot of polls are with registered voters. more of the polls lately have shown that likely voters tend to go for biden at an even greater margin that we're seeing in some of these polls i think it's important to sort of distinguish between those two tracks in terms of the polling data, but the midwest will be one of the most important, if not the most important region, for the biden campaign to focus on here in the home stretch especially given these shifts that we're seeing in the polling data as well as the fact that the president only won those states by just a few -- less than a few points actually in 2016 >> thank you stay close we'll talk to you again in just a little bit. still ahead, the justice department opens a criminal investigation into former national security adviser john bolton's book. later, the president says he up played the threat of the coronavirus but that doesn't match what he told bob woodward back in march. those stories and a check on

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welcome back the justice department has launched a criminal investigation into whether john bolton disclosed classified information in his book about his time as national security adviser inside the trump administration a federal grand jury issued subpoenas for written communications between bolten and his literary agent as well as shiemen and shuster the publisher of the book the room where it happened. it provides a scathing view, his book, of course, of the president's performance as commander in chief the doj filed a lawsuit back in june to block publication of the book until after the white house finished its review for classified material. in declining to stop the publication the judge wrote that bolton opened himself up for civil and criminal liability but bolton's attorney, charles cooper, argued at the time that

the white house review was completed back in april with an approval before the administration attempted to extend the review to block the book's release "the washington post" reports cooper was aware of the subpoenas in a statement cooper said this ambassador bolton emphatically rejects any claim he acted criminally and will cooperate fully as he has throughout with any official inquiry into his conduct a spokesman for simon and shuster declined to comment. joining me dannisy value low good morning to you by the way good morning to you. let's talk about the subpoenas here and whether or not they are likely to comply it seems as if from his lawyer's statement they are but what if they choose to fight these subpoenas, could they have -- could they win >> the doj was unable to stop publication of this book it almost surely will be able to subpoena through a grand jury documents from simon and shuster

and from the agency which relates bolton this is because the justice department has cleverly issued the subpoenas to these companies and for papers which are much less likely to be opposed. bolton can't argue these are his private papers that are somehow immune from disclosure or that the subpoena is unreasonable and oppressive a subpoena issued to a company has a much greater chance of getting documents than a subpoena to a person who a company has no fifty amendment privilege at least not like a person. >> so is there any other avenue for them to pursue if they defie these subpoenas if john bolton himself decides to defy the subpoena. >> it doesn't matter if john bolton decides to defy a subpoena as long as thethe subpoenas are issued to the company, they'll comply they'll have all the same communications that bolton has maybe even more if they sent

things out to other people so, the doj is going to get its information. this is a common strategy and it's a very effective one, direct the subpoenas to parties without any criminal exposure but who have a lot of information about the person you're investigating >> my friend, thank you, as always still ahead, stunning new allegation of abuse at an immigration detention center in georgia. we'll run through the claims a lot of lawyers are making about immigrant women undergoing unnecessary procedures another live report on hurricane sally. you don't want to miss that. we're back in a moment know what. (burke) this? eh, nothing happened. (driver) nothing happened? (burke) nothing happened. (driver) sure looks like something happened. (burke) well, you've been with farmers for three years with zero auto claims. (driver) yeah? (burke) so you earned your policy perk: accident forgiveness. now instead of this being something, it' s- (driver) it's nothing! (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks.

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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian we're going to begin this half hour with the latest on hurricane sally as the storm is moving slowly towards the northern gulf coast bringing with it flooding rain and potentially life threatening storm surge, particularly in parts of alabama and florida's panhandle as well. the area feeling the brunt of this storm at this moment while we speak is pensacola, florida we're going to go there where we find nbc news correspondent sam brock on the ground for us sam, i talked to you 30 minutes or so ago. things looked rough at that point. talk us through what you are experiencing right now >> reporter: yasmin, when i last spoke to you, there were street lights on over my shoulder right now. at the moment, i apologize we're getting feedback there at the moment you can see there's virtual darkness there's a river behind me that once these lights come back on f

they, you will see is several feet deep on the streets i'm looking at debris from trees just floating along the street level here the national hurricane center, yasmin, just announced that this is historic and catastrophic flooding unfolding right now with increases in rain projections now in isolated areas up to 35 inches. what you're looking at and i'm going to step out a little bit as far as i can get you can see i'm actually having a hard time standing up straight at the moment these wind speeds when you went to bed last night were about 85 miles an hour sustained. now they're at 105, which is a category 2 status flirting with the category 3 so you're looking at the combination of life threatening flooding which is just starting to unfold on the streets behind me as well as rainfall that it's projected to hit 20 plus inches in many areas here where we are located in pensacola, yasmin, is the dirty side of this system, the

northeastern quadrant certainly raising concerns here. police overnight tweeting out there are just simply too many road hazards, too many flooded roads to count stay out of the roads no matter what you do. we do know there are six high profile, high water vehicles that are prepared and ready to rescue people should that be necessary. officials here also saying they spoke to president trump, were able to get national guard members deployed about 125 of them will there be a need for more? we'll find out as the day unfolds. as you can see, the wind is the big story here earlier today it was physically shaking the hotel that we were pretty much woke me up just past midnight extremely strong winds combined with all of this water just swelling up right now. we're about six miles from pensacola beach. but the bay right around the corner from me where i am right now. so tons of water sources and it is just pooling. their street is not far from

where i am standing right now look like three to four feet deep at this point keep in mind, yasmin, this could be a 12-hour window of torrential rainfall, especially if hurricane sally continues to move along at this 2 to 3 miles per hour pace which is basically as fast as you and i would walk. that is a problem and certainly something we are watching. bear with me for a second. i'm going to try to get plugged back in again if i can find my ifb so i can hear you. now i'm in. >> sam, great. you got me, sam? i just quickly want to ask you as we talked earlier you had actually said that pensacola did not have any warning of this thing coming in their direction because it kind of moved a little bit east, and it was really supposed to be west of pensacola, florida does that mean a lot of folks were not able to get out of the area and hunker down appropriately as one would if a hurricane was incoming >> reporter: well, it's interesting that you ask that, yasmin, because it struck me when i listened to the press

conference from officials yesterday that there were no mandatory evacuations in this country. just voluntary evacuations so, yes, the track of this which started initially all the way out toward new orleans three or four days ago and slowly crept east ward along the gulf definitely took people by surprise there are shelters that are open right now. there's the bay center here converted to a shelter we know as of yesterday there were about 100 people there perhaps that number ended up ticking upwards. but so many folks out here that were just planning to ride out this storm that i spoke with and deeply concerning because we're looking at flood waters that i got to tell you right now, if the wind speeds maintain like this, emergency responders, first responders, are not going to be able to go out there in their swift water boats or high profile vehicles and save you because it's too dangerous to them so, yes, this definitely took folks here and officials here by surprise

hopefully not with fatal consequences, but that is always the concern. >> let's hope so nbc sam brock, stay safe, my friend thank you as always. let's move now to politics in a town hall anchored by abc news george stephanopoulos last night the president faced tough questions posed by a group of pennsylvania voters. in one exchange he was pressed about the wearing of masks >> a lot of people don't want to wear masks there are a lot of people think the masks are not good and there are a lot of people that, as an example -- >> who are those people? >> i'll tell you who those people are, waiters. they come over and serve you and have a mask. i saw it the other day where they were serving me and playing with the mask. i'm not blaming them i'm just saying what happens they're playing with the mask so the mask is over and they're touching it and then they're touching the plate that can't be good >> and another point in the conversation on masks, the president criticized joe biden for failing to institute a national mask mandate.

>> they said at the democrat convention they're going to do a national mandate they never did it because they checked out and didn't do it and a good question is you ask, like joe biden, they said we're going to do a national mandate on masks. >> he called on all governors to have them. a state responsibility. >> he didn't do it he never did it. >> joe biden responded to the president's remark on twitter writing this -- to be clear, i am not currently president also in that town hall, the president claimed he didn't down playthe threat of the coronavirus despite telling journalists bob woodward back in march he, quote, wanted to always play it down. >> i don't want to scare people. i don't want to make people panic. and you're not going to go out and say, oh, this is going to be death, death, death. >> all through january and february you were down playing by your own admission the severity of the crisis that you didn't want to panic people. >> let me ask you the question first.

>> not down playing. >> you said those are your words. >> i don't want to drive our nation into a panic. i'm a cheerleader. i closed up our country long before any of the experts thought i should i didn't down play it. i actually in many ways i up played in terms of action. my action were very strong. coming up on "morning joe" bob woodward will join joe, willie and mika. you do not want to miss that. joining me once again congressional reporter for politico andrew. there's so much to cover from the town hall last night i think one of the things that piques my interest the most how this president is essentially saying, look, i want to keep the american public calm i don't want them rushing out and panicking over what is happening. this is a president that when seen protests in the streets over racial injustice writes when the looting starts the

shoots starts which could feezly cause panic in the streets of this country and this president continue and is on tape with bob woodward saying i wanted to play this down. yet he feels as if he can stand on abc news with george stephanopoulos and say that's exactly what he wasn't doing >> yeah. you'll recall in the run-up to the 2018 mid term elections the president was talking about a caravan coming from central america that was going to just ravage the country with violence and such you know, he was defending down playing it at the same time as he was denying having down played it, right and i think what this entire setting sort of revealed last night in this abc news town hall was that the president, you know, there's a reason why the president hasn't done these town halls with any real frequency throughout his presidency. i remember when president obama, for example, was trying to sure up support for obamacare as he was trying to get passed through

congress in the early part of his presidency he would criss-cross the country, take questions from voters try again to gin up support for obamacare. that's how he approached sort of the policymaking process and getting the public on board with it you don't see the president doing that and that's why i think it was sort of a unique setting for the president to put himself in last night takingquestions directly from voters rather than from journalists, whom he could easily demean, where as last night he had to take questions from voters who had real issues to present to him. >> and it's an important medium for both candidates to be in because voters are what matter politico andrew desiderio. thanks for getting up early. still ahead, everybody, more from last night's town hall event including the president on how his campaign message applies to black americans your first look at "morning joe "'is back in a moment. when our daughter and her kids moved in with us...

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america great again. when has america been great for african-americans in the ghetto of america are you aware of how tone deaf that comes off to african-american community >> well, i can say this, we have tremendous african-american support. you have probably seen in the polls. we're doing extremely well with african-american hispanic american at levels that you've rarely seen a republican come. i hope there's not a race problem. there's none with me because i have great respect for all races, for everybody this country is great because of it >> not sure the president answered the question from that voter there. that was the president, however, during last night's town hall event with abc news when asked how his campaign slogan appears to years of oppression for black americans. also, in that town hall, the president claimed his administration is pursuing an alternative to the affordable care act that would cover

pre-existing conditions which is already covered by aca the exchange started out with the president getting scolded for interrupting an audience member's question. >> mr. president, i was born with a disease called sarcodosis from the day i was born i was considered uninsurable and still have similar health care problems it costs me with kcopaying $7,00 a year in addition to the copay and should pre-existing conditions, which obamacare brought into -- brought to fruition, be removed -- >> no. >> please stop and let me finish my question, sir should that be removed within a 36 to 72-hour period without my medication, i will be dead >> but what we're doing is we're going to be doing a health care plan, pre-existing, protecting people with pre-existing

conditions as an example, yourself it sounds like that's exactly perfect. that's exactly what we're talking about. we're going to be doing a health care plan very strongly and protect people with pre-existing conditions i will say this, they will not do that. >> mr. president, i have to stop you there. i just have to stop you there because on a couple points number one, joe biden has ran againstmedicare for all in the primaries but much more importantly, obamacare guaranteed people with pre-existing conditions to buy insurance, guaranteed they could buy it at the same price as everyone else. guaranteed a package of essential benefits guaranteed that insurance companies couldn't put a life time limit on those benefits you fought to repeal obamacare you're arguing -- >> i essentially did -- >> you're arguing in the supreme court right now to strike it down that would do away with pre-existing conditions. >> no, so we can do new health care. >> you've been promising new health care plan i interviewed you in june of last year. you said the health care plan would come in two weeks.

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welcome back, everybody. we are re-established with cnbc's julianna tatelbaum live from london for us so, give us the latest head lipe on trade quite a development yesterday when it came to china. >> that's right. well, thank you for sticking with it, first and foremost,as minute this announcement yesterday, the wto has ruled that washington broke with global regulations when it slapped more than $200 billion worth of levies on a slew of chinese goods back in 2018 since march of 2018, the united states has imposed tariffs on

$400 billion in chinese exports. now, the trump administration has previously claimed that the tariffs on china were necessary to curb beijing's unfair trade practices and intellectual property theft and again yesterday, the u.s. trade representative reiterated those claims on the heels of this wto decision. now, in contrast, we've seen a de-escalation of trade tensions between the u.s. and canada. yesterday, president trump back-tracked on his decision to reimpose 10% aluminum tariffs on canada just hours before ottawa was set to announce retaliatory measures now, the canadian finance minister and deputy prime minister weighed in, praising the move at a press conference in ottawa. the last thing that canadians and americans need right now in the middle of a pandemic is a trade war. that's what she said back to you. >> all right, cnbc's julianna tatelbaum live from london for us thank you so much, juliana

all right, let's get to axios. with a look at "axios a.m.," political reporter for axios, hans nichols good morning to you. good to see you. give us axios' "1 big thing. >> yasmin, the one big thing we're looking at at axios is the insurance losses surrounding the violence after the george flood shooting, and the numbers are mind-boggling, $1 billion to $2 billion. now, i'll tell you why it's so significant, because those insurance losses happened over 140 cities most of the other catastrophic events we've had in terms of insurance have been single one-off events -- hurricanes, something like that. so, $1 billion to $2 billion insurance losses you look back at the rodney king riots, it's about $775 million so, much greater numbers this time and it's happening in so many more cities. so, a real challenge for

insurance companies to try to protect and insure against these losses yasmin >> it ceremony -- certainly is. i want to talk joe biden for a moment i know that axios is reporting that he is shifting his focus this week to puerto rican constituents as polls are showing that his soft support with hispanic voters in some crucial battleground states -- and as we mentioned earlier on in the show, biden visiting florida yesterday. tell us more about what he plans to do here >> the important thing at this point of the campaign is where the candidate lands the plane. and yesterday he not only went to florida, but wept to kissimmee, a town outside of orlando, heavy with puerto ricans, which, of course, american citizens, so they can vote that's a big question we're having, about whether or not to make puerto rico actually a state. that's going to come next year but the focus this year is on reaching those hispanic numbers. biden acknowledged that he needs to do slightly better. there is a lot of dispute about

the polls, in part because of the sampling size. the old rule on florida used to be that the i-4 corridor, right, which linked the east and western part of the state. what the biden campaign is doing and the dnc, they're buying up cell phone numbers with the 787 zip code, which is, of course, puerto rico. so they're trying to reach those voters they're difficult to find. they're spending a lot of money on spanish-language ads. at the same time, the trump campaign looks at their numbers, especially with those of cuban and venezuelan descent, and likes what they see. they think they're holding even. remember, florida was a state where hillary won the hispanic vote by close to 30% so, joe biden not only has to beat trump there, he has to run up his numbers now, of course, he's doing better with other groups in florida. he's holding much steadier and almost even on the senior vote, so he may have a little give there, but the biden campaign is signaling they want to fight for the hispanic vote, have implications not just in florida, but in arizona. yasmin >> i'm sure that senior vote is very troubling, the polls we're

showing of the senior vote is very troubling for the trump camp as well, but you can't think they anticipated this thing, considering how covid has affected the senior population in this country right now. let's also talk about another interesting report from axios. nearly 30 million americans, hans, are spending their 20s in the same place they spent their grade school years, at home with mom and dad, of course, because of this pandemic what are the psychological and economical effects of this >> well, there are long-term implications, and it's not just from tearing down, in my case, old nba posters. but there are long-term implications to having an entire generation staying with their parents like this. and we'll see, ultimately, what they come up with, but it's troubling in terms of your earnings potential and your actual savings rate and what you're doing to put money away, potentially for a home all that changes it's just yet another way, the way the coronavirus has changed

and shifted trends now, we saw a little bit of this with the great depression -- great recession, excuse me, in 2008-2009, and that had longer-term potential in terms of earnings for those groups, but it does seem like we're seeing the beginning of a trend. it's bigger than any time since world war ii and obviously, society's changed a lot. and we're still sorting through, like we are as a society with a lot of these implications brought by coronavirus, on what this actually means, but the trend is there and they're looking at it. >> two things here what does it mean for the overall generation when you're taking a look at this new information that we are talking about? and secondly, we haven't talked a lot about how both trump and biden could be focusing more on the young vote it seems like this could be an opening here for both candidates to say, hey, these are folks that are struggling, that have moved home with their parents, they're jobless. we need to talk and focus on these folks to get them to turn out. >> so, biden campaign is clearly

focusing on this when you talk to any democratic strategist, the game they always play with the young voters, really going back to '72, maybe even '68, is turnout because the numbers, at least in this cycle, clearly -- and previous ones -- clearly support the democrats, right the question is always, how do you turn them out? how do you get them to the polls? how do you translate their enthusiasm into actual votes and that's really a challenge that the biden campaign's trying to puzzle through. >> hans nichols, thank you, as always, my friend. so good to see you this morning. i will be reading "axios a.m." in just a little bit you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com that's it for me this morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian "morning joe" starts right now good morning, and welcome to "morning joe." it is wednesday, september 16th, and there's a lot to cover this morning. hurricane sally is moving very slowly toward the northern gulf coast, bringing with it flooding rain and potentially life-threatening storm surge, particularly in parts of