good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington we had planned to have white house senior adviser jared kushner on our program today, an appearance that had been booked for several days and widely promoted this morning the white house informed us mr. kushner's schedule has been reshuffled and he had to cancel that is unfortunate. i had of course been planning to ask him about the significant historic white house breakthrough between israel and two arab nations that he helped broker as they well know, i have been covering the middle east since jimmy carter's camp david accords four decades ago

i also would have asked him about his major role on the coronavirus task force and vaccine development. mr. kushner did at least six other television interviews yesterday. he canceled ours only after the president's appearance on that abc town hall last night with george stephanopoulos during which mr. trump made this comment, among others, about the coronavirus. >> it is going to disappear. it's going to disappear. >> not if we don't -- >> it would go away without the vaccine, george, but it's going to go away a lot faster with it. >> it would go away without the vaccine? so far as a period of time, sure >> and many deaths >> you'll develop like a herd mentality. it's going to be herd developed and that's going to happen that will all happen >> we of course do not know why mr. kushner canceled the appearance at the last moment. he is welcome to join us whenever his schedule permits. and we'll have a lot more on the fallout from president trump's town hall in just a few moments. first let's turn to the disastrous, slow-moving storm that is wreaking havoc on the

gulf coast officials in several states are urging people to stay vigilant because of the possibility of historic rain, rain totals, extreme flooding hurricane sally making landfall as a category 2 hurricane near gulf shores, alabama overnight joining us now, msnbc's ali velshi i hope you've seen the worst of it in neighboring orange beach, alabama. ali, you've had a rough night. >> reporter: yeah, andrea, it was a rough night, i have to tell you, i apologize in advance, because these winds are still whipping, hours after this thing, our satellite dish has a hard time staying up we thought this would be a category 1 storm it came ashore around 6:00, just a few miles west of here, between mobile and pensacola, florida, as a category 2 with winds up to 105 miles an hour and it sounded like it it came through like a train and it has done a great deal of damage around here a lot of flooding. there are boats that were in the gulf of mexico that are now

inland, in people's backyards, in the streets of orange beach there are more than half a million people without power i'm just hearing a siren right now. we haven't heard them for a while, which means there is some ability for emergency crews to move around. this storm is now probably about 25 miles north of me inland. and look at the winds, and it's still whipping up. we're well past the rain part of it and it's still remarkably heavy surf and heavy winds about a half a million people, as i said, without power and they cannot, with winds like this, a, you can't start repairing power lines, and b, you don't know whether the trees are done falling yet there was rain since this time yesterday, so it's saturated, all day, all night, and again all morning. so we still haven't seen the worst of it yet in terms of the damage we also had storm surges here in orange beach we saw two feet of rain by this morning, by the time it made

landfall again, andrea, this is the fourth hurricane that has landed in the continental united states this year. we haven't seen numbers like that since 2004. it's the eighth named storm to make landfall in the united states this year we haven't seen that since 1916, andrea >> that is just remarkable please stay safe, ali. thank you so much for braving that for all of us ali velshi in orange beach, alabama. really, really tough night there. and it is so slow-moving that it's going to be a while, indeed president trump, meanwhile, in that unusual setting last night for him, being questioned at a town hall by undecided voters and moderator george stephanopoulos on the two issues on which he polls the worst, his handling of the coronavirus and race relations >> if you believe it's the president's responsibility to protect america, why would you downplay a pandemic that is

known to disproportionately harm low income families and minority communities? >> yeah, well, i didn't downplay it i actually, in many ways i upplayed it in terms of action >> you've coined the phrase make america great again. which has america been great for african-americans in the ghetto of america are you aware of how tone deaf that comes off to the african-american community >> i will say we have tremendous african-american support, you've probably seen it in the polls, we're doing extremely well with african-american, hispanic-american, at levels that you've rarely seen a republican have. i hope there's not a race problem, i can tell you there's none with me because i have great respect for all races, for everybody. this country is great because of it >> joining me now, nbc political reporter monica alba, nbc's mike memoli, "washington post" bureau

chief phil rucker. phil, we haven't seen him like this, an extended 90 minutes with undecided voters, witherao george stephanopoulos, an experienced correspondent and anchor how would you judge how this event went for him >> andrea, it was a rare sight to see the president questioned by real ordinary citizens, americans. these are not journalists. and they asked very tough questions. a lot of them followed up with their questions when the president neglected to answer them directly. the president at one point tried to interrupt a woman and she had to say, "sir, let me finish my question." these voters were stern with him. and the questions they asked had real urgency and they were challenging for the president. he was not able to simply antagonize the questioners and cry "fake news" as he often does at news conferences, but rather he was sort of scrambling to

come up with answers it was very clear, especially on the coronavirus portion of the questioning, that the president was ill-prepared he still does not have a cohesive argument and narrative to present to the american people to answer some of the deep concerns that many voters have, according to polling, on his management of this crisis. and that has to be a concern for the trump campaign, when you consider that the first debate between trump and democrat joe biden is now only 13 days away >> and there will be a second debate, which in fact is a town hall format with steve scully from c-span. monica alba, you cover the trump campaign let me play one of the questions he was asked about why people aren't wearing masks this is, again, last night's abc town hall. >> a lot of people don't want to wear masks there are a lot of people who think that masks are not good. and there are a lot of people that -- >> who are those people? >> i'll tell who you those

people are waiters. they come over and they serve you and they have a mask and i saw it the other day where they were serving me and they're playing with the mask. i'm not blame them i'm just saying what happens they're playing with the mask. and so the mask is over, and they're touching it and -- and then they're touching the plate. that can't be good >> monica, is there any reaction today from the campaign to the way this we want down? >> yes, andrea, they feel the president was very successful, as they often do when he appears, touting the fact that he committed to this town hall whereas we haven't seen democrat former vice president joe biden do something similar yet he will be, we understand, later in the week. so they are constantly making the argument that the president, while being in office, is trying to campaign on everything that he's done. but so striking and notable, those comments on mask-wearing of course what the president failed to mention there is he was somebody who wouldn't wear one publicly for months at the onset of this pandemic

and many health officials were urging him to do so, to set a good example we've seen him in several instances do it, but it's not something that when he gets off a plane in a battleground state, he's not necessarily wearing a face covering anymore. you saw him there casting doubt on the efficiency of them. and you just had today his own cdc director, robert redfield, saying that in his estimation wearing a face mask could actually protect you better than the coronavirus vaccine that has yet to be developed and finalized. that shows you just sort of the mixed messaging that continues to come from the administration. the president is saying there are people who would prefer not to wear them he pointed to waiters in that instance but his own health officials have said one of the best things you can do for mitigation is certainly to wear a face covering it's just not something that he has modelled necessarily i thought it was also quite significant when asked if there's anything he would do differently about his response to the coronavirus pandemic, anything he would change from

the last six months. he said simply, no, he was very happy with everything the way it had gone, andrea >> and in fact, when we look at the events in nevada where he violated the regulations, the state regulations, defied the governor, had an indoor event, very few face masks, if any, were seen, only the people right behind him and the event at the republican national convention on the south grounds as well as the historic middle east signing ceremonies yesterday, there weren't masks to be seen, and people were not socially distanced mike memoli, the biden campaign, we're expecting remarks from the former vice president this afternoon and his plan for a covid vaccine. he'll be in wilmington, delaware what do we expect to hear and what have they been saying about this town hall >> yeah, andrea, when you hear monica talking about the mixed messages coming from the president, from his own health

advisers, as it relates to the pandemic, you understand why they want to do the event that they're poised to do here. we expect the vice president to arrive just in the next few minutes here, at a downtown theater for a briefing from his own team of medical experts, about the -- focused specifically on one issue, and that is the vaccine. we've heard an awful lot from joe biden about the pandemic broadly. he's talked about ways in which if he had been president, steps he would have taken in the early stages to try to prevent it from become eing the kind of widesprd outbreak that it became, steps to mitigate it and prevent the continued spread and of course today focused on the back end part of it, what he would do in terms of making sure the vaccine was guided by the science and not by the politics, which is their view of what is happening here with the administration this has led the trump campaign to accuse the biden campaign of engaging in an anti-vaxx langua.

the president said he would take it himself even if it cost him the election we're seeing it reflected in our nbc news surveymonkey poll, the number of americans saying they would be concerned about whether a vaccine was in fact safe is on the rise, andrea >> and phil, i also wanted to ask you about michael caputo who has been criticized widely for trying, as well as one of his deputies there at the cdc, to try to alter, to change, to censor the scientific weekly reports from the cdc, the morbidity reports that have been critical and are never interfered with, never previously by any political appointees, as well as those very startling comments he made about sedition from inside the

cdc insurrection and tell people they have to be ready to use ammunition and arm themselves if the president doesn't win reelection, extraordinary comments on facebook he's now apologized for it, but what are people in the white house saying about it? >> yeah, andrea, extraordinary and bizarre comments from michael caputo it's important to keep in mind that he is a longtime political aide to president trump. he worked on the 2016 campaign for a period, running communications there he's basically functioning in the bowels of our government to have the president's political interests prioritized throughout this coronavirus response. but he holds a very senior position at the department of health and human services. and based on his commentary the past few days as well as the actions that he's overseen at that department in terms of the reports you mentioned, he is clearly trying to politicize this effort and has very little regard for the scientific and

medical professionals in the government who are working to try to slow the spread of this virus and end this pandemic. he reportedly apologized to the staff at his department, i believe, yesterday, and has been in conversations with health and human services secretary alex azar, his boss, about his future but at this hour i'm not aware of any sign that he may be fired at anytime soon. we should keep in mind that under any sort of normal presidency, the obama administration, the bush administration, the clinton administration, a senior official in the government acting in that way almost certainly would have been fired on the spot. >> i also want to ask you about something that jared kushner was asked about by wolf blitzer on cnn yesterday, which is the president retweeting a qanon conspiracy theory accusing joe biden of being a pedophile let's watch.

>> i was very disturbed earlier today when i saw the president retweet to his 80 million plus followers very, very disturbing, ugly message, accusing the democratic presidential nominee, joe biden, of actually being a pedophile. is that appropriate, togive publicity to a really disgusting accusation like that >> i will relay to him your concern. again, one thing about this president, he's a very transparent president, he lets people know what he's thinking >> phil, we've covered politics for a long time. and for the incumbent president to be accusing the democratic nominee of something like this by retweeting this kind of theory, qanon, no less, doesn't that require more of a response? >> it should, andrea it certainly is anew low and this is a president who of course has been pretty flagrant over the years with his tweets

and retweets of baseless theories we should just remind everybody, by the way, that joe biden is not a pedophile. there is certainly no evidence to support that theory it's a completely bunk, false theory that's being spread by social media by the president of the united states. and i found it surprising that jared kushner had nothing to say about it to wolf blitzer and maybe if that's something you were going to ask him about today, that might explain why he's not hear talking to you at this hour. >> it's just pretty extraordinary that qanon gets any, you know, any kind of attention at all from the president of the united states or anyone that works in the white house, since they say this about every democratic figure. this is what they say about everyone it has nothing to do with joe biden at all thank you so much, thanks for being with us, phil and monica and of course mike memoli in wilmington, with the biden campaign historic deadly fires raging in the west.

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now to the raging fires and the devastation out west at least 36 deaths have been linked to the fires in california, oregon, and washington state the death toll is expected to climb as the fires are sending carbon monoxide into the atmosphere, with smoke and smog all the way to the east coast. these pictures last night from washington hundreds of thousands of people on the west coast have been evacuated from their homes, some now living in tents. nbc's steve patterson joins us from irwindale, california steve, tell us how the firefighters are trying to contain the fires. >> reporter: this is the bobcat

fire, we're in l.a. county we're at central command here. firefighters have been engaged in a dogfight against this fire because of how explosive and relentless it is it started at less than 10,000 acres, now exploded to 44,000 plus acres it was at one point 6% contained. that containment has dropped as the fire acreage has increased right now this is all about a struggle for the top of mt. wilson, which is essentially where the firefight is right now, mt. wilson observatory is there. firefighters say the fire is currently at the doorstep of that historic place for really science in general it's almost more than a hundred years old. albert einstein studied there. there's a several historical telescopes that are being threatened but also there's an incredible amount of infrastructure on that mountain there's telecommunications as far as tv, radio signals all that have is there

if that were to burn, then part of southern california would lose their communication capability, which would further hamper the firefight firefighters describe this almost as a pac man fire because of how slowly it just keeps churning and eating fuel part of that is because of the fuel load up there some of that area hasn't burned for more than 80 years but obviously it's all exacerbated by the fact that climate change is fueling these fires. governor newsom has been very forthright about this. he spoke about the fires that are currently burning across california and how it's attributed to the change that we've seen over the past few years. listen to this >> record fires, record heat waves, world record breaking temperatures, 130 degrees in california the hottest recorded modern temperature reading in not only our lifetime, arguably in the history of this planet the hots are getting hotter. the dries are getting drier. climate change is real if you don't believe in science,

come to california and observe with your own eyes >> reporter: and the thing you'll see if you come to california is the smoke. it is in nearly every major city it blocks out the sun most mornings as the sun rises. and scientists now say it's traveled as far as europe. just imagine what it is like here it's been incredible to witness and to be a part of and to see the smoke just wafting over all these major cities it's really inescapable, and it won't stop until these fires are out. and again, we haven't even reached the peak of the season there's no end in sight in this struggle andrea, back to you. >> it's just really devastating. what about the health effects? we saw kamala harris there of course with the governor yesterday, so she made a campaign stop there. what about the health effects of all that smog? the people who have asthma and other conditions and i saw a quote from governor newsom last week, steve, that said it's the equivalent of smoking 20 packs of cigarettes

that was friday. >> reporter: yeah, he was saying that -- it was friday, he was saying that surrounded by smoke, talking to my colleague. he's since said it's almost akin to hundreds of packs of cigarettes, the more sustained that you're in it. and yes, people with respiratory issues, the very sick, the very elderly, people who may have complications. we're still fighting covid in this state that has to tie directly into respiratory issues as well so there's an incredible amount of danger in just being outside. you can smell it no matter where you are, you can taste it and feel it, inescapable for a lot of people. obviously an incredibly difficult situation and a very tough health risk for people who may have preexisting conditions, andrea >> and we really hope that all of you and certainly the firefighters are really in danger there, physical danger as well as the health effects, of course all of you guys have got to be

careful, the amount of time you're spending outside is certainly very worrying. thank you so much, steve, thanks for all you're doing out there, you and all of our people. joining us now, former california governor and environmental activist jerry brown. governor, good to see you again. we've talked before, i was at your conference two years ago on the environmental effects. and we've seen it now coming home, profoundly, to your state. >> for sure. >> what do you think can be done >> first of all, let's be clear. going forward, we're going to have more and more of these fires. the amount of co2 and other chemicals being poured into the environment is going to keep rising and it will keep going for the next 20 to 30 years even if we do everything that we're supposed to do about dealing with reducing carbon emissions so we have to take action. we've got to manage these

forests. and that's going to be billions, many billions. the federal government owns over 60% of the forests in california, so they have to take the lead california has to step up as well fire insurance is going to become unaffordable. somehow we'll have to help people buy that insurance. thirdly, people are not going to be able to put homes wherever they want in the middle of the forest fourth, we'll have to get more firefighters you know, thousands and thousands more more helicopters, more airplanes, more of everything. so this is the new normal. it's going to take very abnormal interventions, that is, more than ever before it's not business as usual it's a new business that we're going to have to deal with over the next several decades that, by the way, is just separate and aside from all the things that have to be done to reduce carbon emissions and

fight climate change >> and this in the wake of what "the new york times" has counted as 68 rollbacks by this administration of obama era or other, previous era climate regulations that had been in progress nationally. >> yes >> regulations nationally as well as primarily in california. they've even gone to court to stop california from having some of these regulations >> look, it's unbelievable trump, a, denies the science, b, has rolled back more than 50 environmental regulations that are meant to protect our health, our forests, our whole way of life so he is what i call a demolition derby, destroying everything that's been put in place for decades. so we have to reverse that but then, beyond all that, we have to be able to fight these fires. we have to be able to protect new orleans and new york and

miami and san francisco from rising oceans and tides. and then the intensity of the hurricanes america has to be prepared to spend huge sums of money, recruit talented people to mitigate, to adapt, to protect our country from the weather change that now is upon us and you're seeing in california, i see it right here, the smoke is in the mountains. we're only seven miles from the fires. and it's real. and we've got to wake up, america. but trump somehow is sound asleep in some 19th century fantasy of his hopefully the american people are going to change that in another couple of months >> take a look at when he was in california, what he had to say, denying what public health officials, environmental officials were saying to him at the briefing that your successor, governor newsom, had

convened take a look at this. >> if we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management, we're not going to succeed together in protecting californians. >> okay. it will start getting cooler you just watch >> i wish science agreed with you. >> i don't think science knows, actually >> "i don't think science knows, actually." >> look, that's so unbelievable, that the united states of america, maybe the most powerful, certainly right up there at the top, has sucha clown, and i don't want to sound partisan, i guess i am because i'm a democrat, but this is so unbelievable, that this man is denying what science is telling us, not just science, thousands of good scientists from all over the world, and he's denying it and what he's doing, he's delaying and building up more expense, more suffering, that we

could prevent. and we've got to get it right now, we have to take the action, and he's not doing that. by the way, he did the same thing in the virus if he had developed and mobilized the testing capacity, america could have tested everyone and then we would have never had to shut down, we could have just quarantined the 1% of the people who actually had the virus. but he didn't do that. and so the same level of deception, obfuscation, and just sheer blindness is leading america into a very, very bad place. and i don't want to in any way minimize this. i've been around a long time i've spent 50 years around politicians. i know the good, the bad, and the ugly and this is the most incredible departure from american tradition that we've ever had. certainly that i've ever seen. >> governor jerry brown, never one to mince words thanks for being with us today, governor, good to see you again. and as the coronavirus cases

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death toll is approaching 200,000 people a wedding in maine has become a super spreader event, infecting more than 170 people and killing seven others who didn't even attend the wedding, according to "the washington post." a new cdc report looking at over 120 deaths among children and adolescents shows that black and hispanic children, those with underlying conditions, make up the majority of the deaths in patients under the age of 21 and cdc director robert redfield telling congress today that a covid vaccine will be voibl to the general public in april of 2021 at the very earliest. join us now is dr. vin gupta from the university of washington medical center and an msnbc medical contributor. thanks for being with us i wanted to ask you about some of the comments the president made last night on abc, saying that he up-played the covid threat when he was asked about masks. but certainly playing it down when he talked to bob woodward or explaining that he had played

it down. let's watch. >> the previous administration would have taken perhaps years to have a vaccine because of the fda and all the approvals and we're within weeks of getting it, you know, could be three weeks, four weeks. >> so he said it could be three weeks or four weeks, but today we have the cdc director redfield telling congress, first of all, that it would be april before we'll actually have it rolled out we may have the vaccine, it will be fully tested, but it will be april before it's rolled out what about the disconnect people people are going to get a false impression do you think that this is politics, trying from the white house perspective, trying to promote the vaccine before it's ready to be distributed? >> good morning, andrea. it's a really critical question, i'm glad we're focusing on it. unfortunately, just stepping back, any time the president has the mic and is trying to talk

about public health, he never helps anybody. this goes for all of his public health spokespeople, frankly they don't help people, give them usable information. on the vaccine piece you just mentioned, to your point, even if a vaccine gets rushed through by the end of october, which, you know, we think because of politics that might happen, we know, because the fda has said it only has to be 50% effective to reduce the severity of a case, that is not going to end the pandemic what the fda is defining as success will not end the pandemic a vaccine has to meet minimal thresholds for success so let's be clear, number one. and andrea, i'll just say, living here on the west coast, people are in a state of psychological shutdown under this president's leadership it didn't have to be this way. 140,000 people could be alive today. we now are past 200,000 deaths we don't have enough masks people are scared to leave their homes because we don't have the right masks to protect them.

n95 masks, ones that i have as an icu doc right here, andrea, most people don't have access to them what's the president doing what's the messaging we just don't talk about it because he doesn't have a solution what about college athletes going back parents are concerned about college athletes their children going back, playing sports, knowing that the big 10, for example, is going to restart with a test that's not perfect. so we're going to have college athletes restart, we know there's a heart condition associated with covid-19, there's risk here. i would love for the president to talk about substantive issues he just never does that. >> let me ask you whether you see on the west coast a possible connection, an alarming connection between covid, the vulnerability to covid, and the respiratory effects of the smoke. >> you bet, andrea and again, yet another issue that we should be talking more about, that the president should be we know that if you're exposed to air pollution, any type, from a smokestack, a car exhaust, or a wildfire, you're more likely

to get infected with covid-19 if you're exposed and if you have infection with covid-19, unfortunately we're more likely to see you in the icu or have a really bad outcome as opposed to if you're not exposed to this kind of air pollution. we need to be talking about a national mask strategy that develops high quality masks that are well-fit to the cheeks, that cover the nose and mouths. right now we don't have that we don't have anything to protect people from smoke and this pandemic. it's not right we need to be talking about it we need a strategy >> and more and more people don't want to wear them or are not wearing them, and don't even trust the vaccine because of confusion and mixed messaging coming from washington thank you so much, dr. vin gupta, we have to leave it there today, thanks for being with us. the president on defense over his handling of the deadly coronavirus outbreak in the u.s., as bob woodward takes an unprecedented stand for him, saying that the president has exhibited catastrophic leadership failure

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wa woodward book is having impact >> it reinforces what people already know about donald trump. his greatest vulnerability leading up to the election is his handling and mishandling of the pandemic and his own words as recorded by bob woodward and as bob woodward tells the story, it indicts the president and confirms for people what they already know it continues to result in deaths and millions getting sick. >> at the same time, brandon, we're seeing an increasing partisan divide on key safety measures like masks and a mistrust of information coming from the federal government on the virus and a lot of skepticism about a vaccine how much is the president's mixed messaging, downplaying the virus, contradicting health officials, how much does that play into it >> the president is telling his

supporters what they want to hear he has at times tried to put on the face of responsible public health advocate, and it usually lasts for a couple of days because he gets blowback from his base and he simply doesn't like doing that. he wants to give people what they want to hear. of course in a public health kie crisis, that's incredibly dangerous. last night's town hall shows what a bubble he's in. he tries to rewrite history of the situation we're in that's why the woodward tapes are so interesting, it will make it really hard for him to rewrite his record of what took place here i think the biggest challenge for him right now is his job approval, his popularity is stuck in the mid-40s and every week that goes by, like the past one where he's having to answer for dishonesty, for things that prove he can't be trusted, all that does is keep his job approval really low, and it's really hard to be

reelected as an incumbent when you're stuck in the mid-40s on your job approval. >> and the michael caputo issue, donna, first of all, taking a political lens to crucial scientific information in the cdc, and also this, you know, incitement to insurrection and violence, which no one in the white house has discounted, and the president himself last weekend in nevada and before that in new hampshire was talking about insurrection might be necessary if -- depending on how the vote goes. so how can you have a sitting president attacking the fundamental peaceful transfer of power if he doesn't like the outcome? >> thank you, andrea, it does seem rather extraordinary. and i think for any other administration, a senior administration official who made these remarks, both about the handling of the science but also these remarks regarding

insurrection that are reinforced by the president's own words, talking about sedition, and those things, he would have been out of a job but he still holds a job in this administration and i think it's one of the reasons that we see, both from the president and now from michael caputo, that we see this undermining of the science and a reason that you're seeing increasing skepticism about whether people will or will not take a vaccine we're in a very, very dangerous moment >> and brendan, there's increasing pressure in both parties for moderates, the problem solvers, pressure to do something, not to go home for the campaign nancy pelosi now says she's going to keep them around, if not keep them around, keep them on call, to get something done on covid relief. do you think something will actually happen? >> you know, i think something

should happen. it's remarkable how everybody puts so much trust in nancy pelosi as a self-described master legislator that she's got some plan to figure this out we're clearly on a trajectory where nothing is going to happen i don't know if that's part of her strategy or she really thinks she's pull republicans back to the table by offering really nothing, but right now, we are on a trajectory of people losing all of the benefits. that hurts people. perhaps there's a political up side for democrats but i think it is notable that she's facing pressure from her own ranks, people are waking up to the fact she's driving them towards no deal, and that's just unacceptable i think and it should be. >> donna, do you have a quick comment? >> first of all, the house already passed the bill. pressure should be on republicans to get this done we have the pressure of coming up to september 30th at a crucial time to wrap things up for the year

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big ten football is returning october 23rd after enormous pressure from the white house. the president weighing in on twitter. great news, big ten football is back it is my great honor to have helped shaq, what's the reaction on campus, how do they hope to keep everyone safe from covid >>. >> reporter: andrea, i heard from students that expressed excitement with football season coming back. we'll hear from the athletic director and coach of the university in about two hours. andrea, it is a major reversal from the decision announced august 11th, announcing the football season would be cancelled. we now know from that statement from big ten conference that they will be resuming and they'll be establishing new testing protocols. there will be daily tests for players and staff members. if any player tests positive for

the virus, they will be pulled from the field for at least 21 days days to get back on the field, have to go through heart monitoring and screening. each school will monitor not only the positivity rate of the team but positivity rates that you see with the entire college community and campus for the colleges this is a major reversal you saw president trump, he tweeted taking some credit for it, but in a statement we just got from a university president, one of the big ten university presidents, we hear that they said president trump had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations in fact, when his name came up, it was a negative because no one wanted this to be political. of course, everything is political now. we're in the middle of a big campaign andrea >> okay. of course, they may not have seen the tweet thanks so much, shaq brewster. that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. chuck ddto, big college football

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