this morning tropical depression sally is moving in. we're tracking where the system is headed next. also the president and director of the cdc appear to be at odds over the timing of the scene and the importance of wearing masks. also this morning, big ten football will kick off next month. at least one college president says it has nothing to do with him. good thursday morning, everybody. it is september 17th, and i'm

yasmin vossoughian we're going to begin first with what is now a tropical depression sally the storm made landfall yesterday morning as a category 2. more than 2 million lost power due to strong winds. major devastation there. water flooded the streets. the national guard has been called in to assist with recovery efforts late last night the national hurricane center said it was causing torrential rains i want to go to bill karins who's tracking the continuation of the storm bill, good morning to you. as we have talked about in the past, just because we have a tropical storm, it doesn't mean

as it's moving inland, it can cause major damage we saw yesterday how painfully slow this storm is moving. >> painfully there was a ton of rain, water everywhere water rescues were taking place all day yesterday in southern alabama. roads were washed out. now we're going to continue into the carolinas today. it's not going to be as bad, but there will be areas that will have to deal with high water and problems i want to deal with some of the rankings and how the storm played out it was the highest wind gust out of fort morgan, alabama. that's why the worst damage was down along the gulf shores these have to be verified, but we did get 2 to 2 1/2 feet we thought was possible numerous locations hit over 20 inches that's why we had near record, the record flooding. that's why so many had flooding. here's over the last 12 hours.

notice the rain shield way ahead of the storm in atlanta to western areas of north carolina, when you start getting heavy rain in the mountains, that's when you start getting problems because it can accumulate quickly we're going to watch that possibility today. we have a chance of a few tornadoes too. right now we have flood warnings and flood watches for 26 million people including raleigh and elsewhere. how much additional rainfall can we get we're thinking in atlanta, maybe another inch on top of what we've already received and then 3 to 6 in numerous locations from greenville to raleigh to richville. washington, d.c., you're on the end of this. the rain should stay to your south. as far as severe weather, areas to your south, augusta,

charleston, newburn, greenville, washington, they're at risk. yes, jasmine, a lot of the damage is done, but this is now just a tropical depression we're not worried about wind damage it's tornados and flash flooding. when you see atlanta with flash flooding due to the storm, still serious concerns. >> absolutely. thank you, bill. i want to turn now to a look at the state of the presidential race new polling finding joe biden with a narrow lead in wisconsin. the latest abc news/"washington post" poll showing trump leading 52% to 46% in the battleground state. and in kenosha, wisconsin, you see where they're turning as far as crime and safety. the latest poll puts biden ahead

by 16% in that state, minnesota, 57% to 41% meanwhile an ipsos reuters poll shows joe biden at 50%, dew point donald trump at 41%. that number has only declined in recent weeks those polled were much more interested in a candidate who has aplan for handling this pandemic and the president renewed his attack on mail-in voting yesterday. speaking of reporters, the white house and president claimed the democrats presented a bigger threat to the election than either russia, china, or iran. >> the biggest problem we have right now are the ballots. millions of ballots going out.

that's the biggest problem. when you talk about other countries, whether's china o russia, there are bigger threats. the biggest threat to this election are governors from opposing parties controlling ballots, millions of ballots to me that's a bigger threat than foreign countries much of what turned up on other countries turned out to be true. >> joining me now from "the hill," julia manchester. what the president said at the very end is the biggest stuff. i feel like he's talking about interfering in our election was untrue this president is still denying the fact that we had foreign countries like russia interfering in our elections,

especially back in 2016. he is continuing to attack mail-in voting ahead of these elections. i think the question is how does this message appeal to his voter base what does he feel like he's gaining with his base by attacking mail-in voting >> well, he's really trying to reassure them at this point. look during this coronavirus pandemic, we know voters across the country, especially voters in very critical swing states, arizona and florida, home to a large senior population, they'll be voting by mail for the most part, and we know that a lot of the voters in the country right now feel more comfortable voting by mail, because they feel it's more safer during the pandemic president trump and the republicans worry about that because we know vote by mail expands the number of people who are voting and it definitely helps communities that democrats are trying to reach out to, whether that's low income

communities that don't go out as much you're going to continue to see president trump continue to attack mail-in voting because arguably mail-in voting helps democrats. as for the election interference issues, we've seen president trump has breached skepticism about what his own intelligence community, the u.s. intelligence community has come to. he seems to take this issue very personally, going back to 2016, saying that because russia interfered in the election or the intelligence community found they interfered in the election, it's delegitimizing his own win. this is something you're going to mare the president continue to dig in on because he's trying to provide cover to what happens on election day, to legitimize it if he wins or come up with an excuse if he loses to saying look, there's a lot of mail-in voting, for example. that helps democrats there's fraud involved

i'm obviously paraphrasing there. there's no evidence to support it >> yeah. the web that he is spinning, though, could also affect down-ballot races as well. we could see how that all played out. let's talk about some of these suburban polls i mentioned joe biden is still leading amongst suburban voters. also it seemed like the bind camp is making a calculation and a good one at that in that they care more about the pandemic than they do about law and order, and we know the biden camp is pushing hard on the president's response to this pandemic, criticizing it why do you think the president's messaging on law and order basically a page out of the nixon book, is not resonating with suburban voters >> i think right now the pandemic and economic fallout from the pandemic are number one priority or both number one and

two priorities i think voters right now are concerned about the public safety aspect obviously, but they're also concerned about the economic aspect. it's a little surprising, actually, talking to a lot of republican strategists during the pandemic, the republicans say, they need to focus on recovery, they need to focus on the fact that president trump built a good economy during the pandemic and he can do this again. and we've heard president trump and his allies talking about that, but then he seems to really lean into this law-and-order message. it seems to be where he's most comfortable. and i think you've seen him take this playbook before in 2014 it might not have been law and order, but it was the merg message. remember, he talked about the caravan. it was a little bit of a strategy to scare voters into what would happen if democrats won began -- won in 2018 we see they didn't vote.

it helps them quite a bit. i would say right now, looking at what we know right now in the poll numbers, joe biden's campaign by focusing on the pandemic, is actually very much helping themselves, because we know that's priority number one. i would say president trump needs to focus on recovery and the economy if he wants to pull himself up in the polls. >> all right julia manchester, thank you. stay close i'm going to talk to you again in just a bit. still ahead, everybody attorney general bill barr accuses some justice prosecutors of being head hunters and interfering in politics. we're going to show you his new remarks. and later the president appears to blame blue states for the growing pandemic and ignores the red states those stories and much more when we come back ♪

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name one successful organization where employees are deemed san cy sankt. there aren't any it is no way to run a federal agency good leaders at the department of justice as any organizations need to trust and support their subordinates, but that does not mean blindly deferring to whatever those subordinates want to do. >> that was attorney general bill barr critiquing career prosecutors at an event at hillsdale college yesterday. it didn't stop there barr explained how strange he finds accusations he interferes in classes claiming it's his job to oversee junior prosecutors to

keep them from, quote rk, headhunting. >> they interfere in investigations or in cases what do you mean by interfere? under the law, all prosecutorial power vested in the attorney general, and these people are agents of the attorney general. when i say what exactly am i interfering with when you boil it down, it's the will of the most junior member of the organization. >> individual prosecutors can sometimes being headhunters. it's all too often >> in other news on the attorney

general's possible influence over federal prosecutors, "the new york times" says bill barr made a recommendation with sedition some were alarmed with the suggestion of inciting people to rebel against the state. according to sources, barr warned violence in some demonstrations could worsen as this election is approaching "the wall street journal" writes in part this the call underscores the priority mr. barr has given to prosecuting crimes connected to violence during months of protests against racial injustice leading to major property damage, as president trump has cracked down on the violence barr raised the issue of examining whether seattle's mayor could be charged

joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos good morning, danny. great to see you this morning. i want to talk about the basics this morning, which is the sedition act in general. what is it, and could it even be applied here, considering the reporting considering that so many reporting on the call were surprised that the attorney general would raise something like this when it came to charging protesters? >> danny, did you hear me? do you have me, danny? all right. technical difficulties once again, everybody we're going to try to get him back because we do want to talk to my friend danny cevallos. still ahead, a newly confirmed case of coronavirus inside the white house what we know so far, coming up next ?

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everybody. the president confirmed a white house staff member has tested positive for the coronavirus during yesterday's press briefing he emphasized that he did not have contact with the individual in the last 24 hours white house officials have not revealed the identity of the person with the virus. this is not the first case to spark concern of spreading in the west wing. back in may, a white house valet who serves the president tested positive for covid-19 as did katie miller, the vice president's communications director and in july, national security adviser robert o'brien also tested positive for the virus. let's talk "snl" because they're coming back. jim carrey will play presidential nominee joe biden nbc announced that on wednesday.

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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian we want to begin this half hour with the latest development surrounding the coronavirus to find the president's own timeline the director of the cdc said in a senate hearing yesterday, a vaccine will not be widely distributed until spring or summer of next year. take a listen. >> i think there will be a vaccine that initially will be available sometime between november and december, but very limited supply, and it will have to be prioritized.

if you're asking when is it going to be generally available to the american public so we can begin to take advantage of the vaccine to get back to our regular life, i think we're looking at third -- late second quarter, third quarter 2021. >> i think he made a mistake when he said that. it's just incorrect information, and i called him, and he didn't tell me that and i think he got the message maybe confused maybe it was stated incorrectly. no, we're ready to go immediately as the vaccine has announced, and it could be announced in october. >> all right so the "associated press" reports that moments after the news conference ended that we just saw from the president, trump turned to staff and said, quote, i did the best i could according to a person present in that conversation. so at his senate hearing yesterday, the cdc director robert redfield came out in strong support of wearing masks to combat the virus. meanwhile the president yesterday again looked to

undermine the health official's claims. >> these face masks are the most important powerful public health tool we have, and i will continue to appeal for all americans, all individuals in our country to embrace these face coverings i said if we did it for 6, 8, 10, 12 weeks, we'd bring the pandemic under control we have clear scientific evidence they work, and they are our best defense. i might even go so far as to say this face mask is more guaranteed protect me against covid than when i take a covid vaccine. >> number one, it's not more effective, by any means than a vaccine. i called him about those were the two things i discussed with him and i believe if you ask him, he would probably say that he didn't understand the question but when i called up robert today, i said to him, what's

with the mask. he said, i think i answered that question incorrectly i think maybe he misunderstood it you have two questions maybe he misunderstood both of them maybe he's not aware of the distribution process not so much of a concern as, let's say, mine. i hope that the vaccine is going to be a lot more beneficial than the masks. >> all right so following the president's remarks, redfield doubled down tweeting this. i 100% believe in the importance of vaccines and the importance in particular of a covid vaccine. a covid vaccine is the thing that will get americans back to normal in everyday life. the best defense we currently have against this virus are the important mitigation efforts of wearing your mask, washing your hands, social distancing, and being careful about the crowds. so the president yesterday seemed to blame blue states for

the country's increasing coronavirus death rate. >> the blue states had tremendous death rates if you take the blue states out, we're at a level that i don't think anybody in the world would be at. we're at a very low level, but some of the states were blue state. >> all right the president's comments come just one day after he tried to distance himselffrom democratic-run state at a town hall in philadelphia. >> what they want is a bailout of democrat-run states that are doing poorly, and, you know, i don't think -- >> why do you keep talking about democrat state they're american states. >> democrat states are the ones doing badly, george. if you look at new york, if you look at illinois, if you look at a lot of different places, they're doing poorly, and cities in particular cities are being run so poorly -- >> don't you have responsibility for those cities and states as well >> largely because of crime.

they don't want to do anything about crime. they have sanctuary cities where they're protecting criminals they have things the republicans don't have look, i'm the president of anything i don't want to say it, but they're democrat-run cities it is what it is. >> all right joining me once again, political reporter for "the hill," julia manchester julia, the president is blaming the blue states for the pandemic he's not taking into consideration the high rates we've seen in red state. new york, for instance, was the first hot zone, the first place it really hit when we didn't know a lot about this virus. what do you make of this >> you know, it seems that when president trump is talking about this, he's really trying to picture an electoral map and try to convey that to voters the only issue with that is the

timeline the blue state -- maybe a lot of democratic run state we're the first states to get hit by this. i would add they're states with lots of ports of entry they tend to be more populated it makes sense they were hit hard first with this virus however, fast forward six months later after the first outburst -- the beginning of the first outbreak chl we see that with a lot of republican-return states, florida, texas we're seeing these states, red states, are dealing with this pandemic, you know, getting the bulk of it and getting the bulk of cases, and i think it doesn't necessarily make sense to divide it in that way because we're seeing that, you know, there's a spread after it got to these democratic-run states, and now these -- you know, maybe republican-run states are dealing with this more i don't think you can, you know, make the case for dividing states that way.

>> what's the point of the dispute that i talk about between the president and the cdc director over when exactly and how widely a covid vaccine could feesabasibly be impacted how could this impact the ongoing elections? >> this is critical. the president has said this in the past he has talked about how he would like to get a vaccine ahead of election day because we know if there were to be a vaccine ahead of election day, that would probably help president trump. it would obviously give americans protection, give some confidence with the u.s. economy, however, numerous public health officials have said, look, it's going to take time and we want to do it safely so i think president trump is trying very much to project this image of confidence, and then you have public health officials

like director redfield saying, hold up, we want to take this slow it's interesting because joe biden yesterday in delaware gave his remarks about this issue saying, look, i don't want to trust president trump when it comes to distributing the vaccine on his own if the scientific community supported a vaccine distributed by the trump administration, by all means, i would say myself and others should take it. but it's amazing to see how the timing of this vaccine has become so highly politicized less than 50 days out of election day. >> amazing but not surprising. julia manchester of "the hill. so good to see you. i want to bring back msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos danny, good morning once again to you. >> good morning. >> we reported how "the new york times" indicated the attorney general spoke on sedition

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the big ten will be back in the fall it starts the weekend of october 23rd it will include daily testing for players and staff members starting september 30th, and each university is to appoint an infection officer to oversee the testing. among the new safety measures, players who test positive for the virus will be sidelined for 21 days and must undergo comprehensive cardiac testing before getting back on the field. and if a team's positive test rate tops 5%, all of the team's practices and games will stop for at least seven days. the president took credit for helping the big ten on twitter yesterday and later discussed the development during a white house news briefing. >> i'm want to congratulate big ten football it's back. and i want to -- in particular,

i've been dealing with them. thanks to commissioner kevin warren for the great job he did. we've been working with him for a while. there was a rumor being spread that i didn't want football back, and it was just the opposite that was another disinformation rumor put out by the biden campaign it was all made up it's all disinformation, just like they put an ad in about football and with respect to me. i'm the one that got football back. >> however, a big ten university president involved in yesterday's decision to resume football telling nbc news this the president had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations in fact, when his name came up, it was a negative because nobody wanted this to be political. the big ten is expected to release an eight-game schedule for each team this week. schools of the big 12 and the acc have already played games in front of limited crowds, and the s.e.c. kicks off on september

26th the big ten's reverse aal leave one left it's opening the door for all member schools to possibly -- key word possibly "get back on the field there. i want to turn now once again to the latest on what is now a tropical depression, sally. the storm made landfall on the gulf shores of alabama yesterday, leveling and putting a lot of damage there as a category 2, bringing strong winds and flooding to parts of that state and florida, and it's now pushing inland late last night the national hurricane center said it was causing torrential rains over eastern alabama and western florida. bill, what can we expect as this

tropical depression is moving inland >> yeah. now it's heading into some big population centers we have warnings in atlanta, and we're going to track the rain, the heaviest of it, into the carolinas. a lot of populated areas are going to have issues especially with flooded roads and isolated flooding the rain has spread all the way into virginia. it's going to be with us today, half of tomorrow, and then sally will be gone the winds aren't causing any more damage. it's mostly going to be the rainfall widespread 2 to 4, up to 6 inches of rainfall that will include greenville, raleigh, richmond, and norfolk washington, d.c. is on the northern edge of it, so i don't expect much flooding this was the earliest 18th named

storm by three weeks, fourth hurricane landfall in 20, most this early since 2004. we are not done yet. we have numerous storms. we have storms spinning off portugal and two areas having a chance to form and hurricane vicky and hurricane teddy. all of a sudden your eyes get drawn right to if gulf of mexico anything developing in the gulf of mexico spells trouble that could develop in the days ahead. as far as teddy goes, the new advisory from the hurricane center, it's a category 2 storm, and this one is going to try to take a turn and almost head directly for bermuda, possibly as a major hurricane that would be sunday night into monday notice it takes the little hook to the north tuesday this is where it gets interesting because we're going to do one of our battles between the computer models.

the european computer model toward the last day and a half takes this toward nova scotia, dangerously close to maine this would be tuesday of next week notice our model keeps it further away remember i mentioned the development possibly in the bm, the european model leaves this as a potent storm on tuesday where our american model does not. one piece of little good news, we've been dominating the news with the western wildfires in the last two weeks we had rain and cooler weather head to the pacific northwest in the last 24 hours. that has dramatically helped with the air quality and firefighters, but no such luck for california. >> some relief there at least. thank you, bill. good to talk to you this morning. still ahead, the fed's latest effort to prop up the

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welcome back time for business and further efforts to prop up the economy the feds have pl s have pledgep the interest rate at zero for the next three years julianna tatelbaum joins us from cnbc good morning talk about this move from the fed. >> the big event was the fomc meeting, which concluded yesterday. fed officials say they expect interest rates to remain near zero until at least 2023 now, policy makers added they will not tighten policy until inflation has risen above 2% for some time. they also vowed to keep their bond buying program at its current pace so this has been providing support to markets and will

continue do so, but interestingly, jerome powell, the chair of the federal resevgs renewed his request for support from calling for more fiscal stimulus to help support the u.s. economy. we have more news on tiktok, the deal we've been following closely the last few weeks president trump told reporters he was not ready to approve a proposal from the chinese company tiktok, that puts oracle in charge of the u.s. operations remember, president trump can asked for a complete sale, and what looks like transpired is a deal that makes oracle a technology partner not a full buyer.

trump said it must be 100% as far as national security is concerned. adding he would have to look at the deal before signing off and he is set to look at the report today. >> i have talked more about tiktok than i have watched it or participated in it just so everybody out there knows. not a bid tiktoker if that's something you can say. let's talk about airlines for a moment they are edging closer towards massive layoffs. the industry is planning to push for another $25 billion in federal aid. i feel americans aren't going to be happy about this seeing so many small business closures in their neighborhood what can you tell us about this? >> there are a lot of sectors under stress now we're seeing airlines as well as labor unions pushing for another $25 billion in aid try to preserve jobs through next march

the aid expires on september 30th so after that they are planning to furlough or lay off 30,000 workers they're hoping to get more aid to avoid those playoffs several officials plan to meet with the white house today that's the plan. julianna tatelbaum live from london for us. thank you so much. good to see you. up next a look at axios' 1 big thing. and on "morning joe," a check in with a health expert as the president continues to contradict his own officials also a look at peacock's new late night block when producer, actor, and comedian larry wilmore joins the confers.

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good morning to you. >> good morning. >> give us axios' one big thing today. >> the danger of rushing a vaccine. scientists are making breakneck progress with record breaking speed as far as a coronavirus vaccine but it opens questions about how the vaccine will deploy and ethical dilemmas. there are about eight vaccines being tested right now on tens of thousands of people but doctors tell us testing is done on groups as small as 50 people and if those move well they may move quickly to fda approv approval the question that doctors put to us is it's just the first vaccine. how do we continue to make sure we continue to research other vaccines to find the most effective one and not just

losing sight once the vaccines go to the fda for approval we face a challenge to deploying this to people in the united states. these are vaccines that may require two dozes that could be up to a billion doses that need distributed around the united states many times stored under 20 degrees fahrenheit so they're looking at how to deploy the vaccines when they're found and then the timing and whether political tension enters into the race. most people we're talking about saying we could get initial approval of vaccines in october, november but that conflicts with what president trump is saying that some of these vaccines could be ready within, quote, weeks that's a key tension point doctors are telling us, make sure we're following all the steps closely. following the full scientific process to make sure we're not just getting one that's just

effective and able to be distru butted across the united states. >> with companies saying we're not rolling out a vaccine until they checked all the boxes, how does that play with your reporting? >> the doctors we've talked to are sticking to the science. they're not making promises they won't be able to keep. that's what we saw in the statements about the vaccine makers coming together they are going to hold the line on the science on this, they'll be deliberate they realize they're going faster than they've ever gone. this could be under a year if we have results for the end of this year but they want to make sure they're thorough and not pushing out a vaccine before they're ready. even though they tell us they're moving at breakneck speed. >> nicholas johnston thank you good to see you.

i will be reading axios a.m. in just a bit you can sign up at signup.axios.com that does it for me this thursday morning i'm yasmin vossoughian "morning joe" starts right now i actually got to read it last night i read it very quickly and it was very boring. >> by the way, i read the book last night, very rapidly because it was very boring. >> that's president trump two days in a row claiming he read bob woodward's book, quote, last night the last two nights. good morning and welcome to "morning joe" it is thursday september 17th joe has the morning off but along with willie and me we have reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire and nbc news contributor shawna thomas we're following tropical depression sally moving inland after hitting alabama and florida with flooding rain and

storm surge. plus remarkable comments from attorney general bill barr. attacking prosecutors in his own department of justice and saying the stay-at-home orders in the early month of covid-19 were the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in american history, other than slavery. also this morning, the big ten football season will take off next month president trump is taking a victory lap but at least one college president said it had nothing to do with him at all. >> let's start with president trump and the director of the cdc who appear to be at odds over the potential of the timing of a vaccine and wearing a mask. robert redfield said yesterday a vaccine will not be widely