good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where president trump has rebuked the head of the cdc, dr. robert redfield, on both the value of wearing masks and the president's widely disputed statements that a vaccine could be available before the election, just 47 days from now. dr. redfield had testified under oath to congress yesterday that a vaccine would not reach the general public until later next year >> if you're asking me when is it going to be generally available to the american public so we can begin to take advantage of vaccine, we're probably looking at third -- late second quarter, third quarter 2021 >> i think he just made a

mistake. he just made a mistake i think he misunderstood the question, probably under no circumstance will it be as late as the doctor said >> and the president also said last night, dismissing dr. redfield's advice on wearing masks. >> these face masks are the most important, powerful public health tool we have. we have clear scientific evidence they work and they are our best defense. >> i think there's a lot of problems with masks. as far as the mask is concerned, he made a mistake. there are some people that don't like the mask because unfortunate touchiness and the touching and then you're touching everything else >> most notably, mr. trump dismissing people who died in blue states, seeming to suggest those losses don't matter, shouldn't be counted against the overall toll this as attorney general bill barr weighed in, calling covid lockdowns, quote, the greatest intrusion on civil liberties

since slavery. this hour i'll talk to peter strzok, the former fbi agent, who says the president is a national security threat joining me now, nbc news white house correspondent peter alexander. nbc news political reporter ali vitali in philadelphia pbs news hour white house correspondent yamiche alcindor and former republican chair michael steele, now a senior adviser to the lincoln project also joining us, new jersey governor christie todd whitman peter, first of all, donald trump disagreeing with the cdc director, contradicting him on the vaccine timeline, importantly, all of the corrections afterwards, the tweet from dr. redfield, sort out the political fallout from all of this. >> andrea, i think what it says as much as anything, hearing the president's contradictions of the cdc director, the head of one of the world's premier public health agencies, is how much the president is hanging

his reelection hopes on the imminent arrival of a vaccine although none has appeared so far. the president is making the case one could be here this month, next month, or soon thereafter, he suggests, despite the information we've heard from redfield and others in terms of its wide distribution. i was struck by a conversation i had with mark meadows, the president's chief of staff, earlier today when we pressed him on this disconnect between what the president was saying and what redfield was saying and he said that redfield is not in close touch to many of those closest to this process as it relates to vaccine development and distribution, which in itself is striking because it's the hhs, the cdc, and the department of defense, that together are in charge of vaccine distribution going forward. when i followed up with him after, he was critical of the cdc's past handling of testing early on, saying that speed of development and speed of distribution is not one of the cdc's strong suits, and again

insisted that redfield may not be aware of all these specific details as it relates to clinical trials and beyond but as you heard from the president, he said that this vaccine would be available for the general public immediately upon its approval. that is a multi-month gap between what he's saying and what robert redfield is saying recognize, the white house has repeated that the top priority will be those at highest risk and those front line workers which could amount to 80 million, perhaps more americans. so if that first batch is about 100 million doses as the white house insists, it still would be much longer before regular americans, average, everyday americans had access to this vaccine, as redfield himself said >> and in fact, joe biden, who is hanging so much of his campaign on the contrast between his handling, his approach to the pandemic, and the president's, yesterday met with his medical advisers for several hours, then came out and spoke

ali vitali, you're in florida where kamala harris is today let's show what joe biden had to say about the vaccine and whom he would trust with a vaccine. >> let me be clear i trust vaccines i trust scientists but i don't trust donald trump at this moment, the american people can't either. >> and partly, as he explained during a question and answer session, ali, the most promising vaccine candidates require two doses, several weeks apart, and very, very important infrastructure, because it has to be 70 degrees below the freezing, it has to be shipped in bulk. there's a lot that goes into getting this in wide distribution we know health workers, first responders, are supposed to be

those who get it first, and the most vulnerable. >> that's exactly right. there's so much more that goes into getting a vaccine out than just getting a vaccine that can be publicly disseminated in the first place. you're right that joe biden is really narrowing his focus in that answer, because this is a conversation that we've been having on vaccines for several weeks now. kamala harris was among the first to be asked about it, she said she wasn't just going to blanketly trust donald trump, that she needed to hear from doctors and scientists we've watched that answer get narrower on the part of the democratic ticket, all the while republicans trying to spin that and make it sound like democrats are anti-vaccine that's not what any of the democrats have been saying but this stuff has a tendency to trickle down we talk a lot about the top of the ballot being one of the big metrics to help turnout. the conversation that you have while you're campaigning is also

one of the things that tends to trickle down the ballot. and this question of vaccines did so very recently in a north carolina senate debate one of the hottest contests on the map. the democratic candidate in that race, cal cunningham, was asked about it he said he would be hesitant to take a vaccine but that he, again, trusted the scientists on this issue his republican opponent then, thom tillis, saying that answer wasn't acceptable and trying to play into this idea that democrats are politicizing a vaccine. this has become a political football however, i would say, andrea, in the course of following biden and harris, they want this focus to be on the pandemic and specifically trump's mishandling of it. they want to talk about the plans they have to get this under control. i would imagine as kamala harris is campaigning here today, she's talking to women's groups and latino voters. she's been pressing the strategy that biden and harris have on how they'll deal with the pandemic if elected. >> and yamiche, one of the things that was really striking

about the president's presentation yesterday, last night in the briefing room, was the way he separated -- or maybe the distinction between deaths in blue states and deaths in red states i wanted to play that for you. >> the blue states had tremendous death rates if you take the blue states out, we're, uh, at a level, uh, i don't think anybody in the world would be at, we're really at a very low level but some of the states, uh, they were blue states, and blue states managed them >> how did you react to that, yamiche? >> to me it really is in line with what the president has been saying from the very beginning of this pandemic, and that is essentially i take no responsibility at all. he uttered those words almost infamously at the white house rose garden, and he was making the case that he doesn't feel himself to be personally

responsible for some of the struggles that this country is facing with the coronavirus pandemic so you see the president really trying to push the blame on democratic leaders, democratic cities of course now he was talking about the virus but he says the same thing when it goes to police killings, protests. when ventilators were short, when testing was a problem, he continues to try to say that local leaders are the issue, and of course local leaders being the democratic leaders but we know of course that the president is the president of the whole united states. he's the federal government, which could have provided resources and can provide resources for both democrat and republican states. local leaders from the very beginning have been saying they want more guidance from the white house, they want more resources from the white house, that a lot of the problems that we're seeing happen, a lot of the reasons why officials say we had untold number of deaths and infections in a way that we don't see in other modernized industrialized countries, is because the federal government was not taking a clear stand on this so this was really president trump in his element, saying the

things that he's always said we've been talking in the last few minutes about the fact that the president sees his reelection bid as tied so closely to his ability to try to have a win in the vaccine. but here's the president also making the claim that he doesn't want to be anywhere near some of the failures and anywhere near some of the struggles we're seeing i was struck by it, it's of course remarkable to see a u.s. president parse out which states he thinks are his responsibility and which states he thinks aren't but it's also not surprising >> and in kentucky, you've got a conflict, michael steele, where the supreme court there is hearing a challenge from the democratic governor, governor bashear's covid restrictions >> and it speaks, again, to the abject absence of leadership the fact that you have the president, as yamiche just laid out in her reporting, you know, pitting americans against each

other, putting governors in the very untenable situation where they have to fight to try to save their people from catching this disease, from spreading this disease they had to fight to get ppe into their states because the president's attitude was, y'all work that out, that's on you, you're not using my stockpile, "my stockpile," no, it's the nation's stockpile, it's there for a reason this is the environment, this is the tone, this is the nature of this campaign, that the president himself is setting and what has to happen through the biden campaign, through ancillary organizations and groups, activists around the country, democrat, republican, conservative, liberal, whatever your leanings are, you have to assess how this fits for you the onus is on us. we know who trump is we know what he is we know his lack of empathy and caring for the american people

his division along racial, ethnic, and now state lines. so we have to assess, i think, in the final analysis, going into the next 45 days of this campaign, what kind of america do we want to be on the other side of this we know what lies ahead, andrea. we know the fight we're going to see trying to get ballots through our nation's postal service system, trying to get ballots counted in a timely enough fashion and all the roadblocks that are being set up along the way and what you're seeing playing out in kentucky and wisconsin and other states where governors are having to do battle to just get the basic stuff done, says a lot. >> you've got the attorney general also weighing in and saying that wearing masks and having restrictions is like slavery. you know, the lockdowns in

particular christie todd whitman, you're a former governor, former cabinet official, dealing with science when you were head of epa, certainly as governor. how do you deal with this, when the attorney general of the united states talks about lockdowns as an infringement on freedom and form of slavery? >> it makes the governors' jobs also impossible. it's really dangerous, what this people's lives and by telling people and confusing people about the importance of masks, you just had an earlier story on the channel saying how in australia they were able to reduce the impact of just the regular flu because they were using the covid protocols and people were socially distancing, using masks. this works we know this works it's science he is -- this president and people like bill barr, going out there and saying the things that they do, are putting people's

lives at risk. we have literally lost tens of thousands of people because this administration did not take this virus seriously at the beginning. and the president just lies about that and we know that and mike is right, we know who he is. what terrifies me is the thought of a second term of this president unbridled, with the kind of capacity he has in this administration prior to that peaceful demonstration in lafayette square where the president wanted to go to st. john's church to hold up a bible, i don't know what the message was there, maybe he has one, maybe that was it, that they were actually -- first of all, the fact that we were deploying u.s. troops against u.s. citizens on u.s. soil, but they were looking to use weapons, the kind of thing that makes your skin feeling like it's burning off. this is america. this is not russia this is not north korea. and we're heading down that

path, i'm sorry, but the fact that he doesn't care whether you die. i'm in a blue state. i care about the new jerseyans who die from this. they have real families. this is scary to me and makes this election one of the most important in my lifetime, anyway >> and peter alexander, when the president tried to accuse biden of political siizing the vaccin when he keeps talking about getting the vaccine by that very important date, by election day, hasn't he put the vaccine on the election calendar? >> well, i think obviously that's the real frustration, right, the president may be politicizing, has been politicizing this process and effectively using that november 3 date as a date by which he wants to have this vaccine or at least is touting that it will be available, potentially rushing those folks behind the clinical trials, you know, to move on with their process, such that they even had to put out a

statement, the scientists did, that they would not allow politics to play a role in this process. the white house tries to whack biden and say he's anti-vaccine. what biden said clearly yesterday was, he doesn't trust the president, he trusts the scientists, if scientists say it's safe and effective, he and other americans should take this vaccine once it's approved >> peter alexander, thank you so much and of course christine todd whitman, yamiche alcindor, and michael steele as well and ali vitali in philadelphia with kamala harris. as attorney general william barr has been blasting his own prosecutors, equating them with preschoolers, we'll talk to you about what else he said, coming up next. plus protecting our pets when natural disasters strike, one organization is there trying to save animals lost or left behind more on their efforts to reunite our furry friends with their families in the aftermath of the

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on the heels of a high profile resignation by the top prosecutor working on the attorney general's investigation of former obama officials, william barr is now attacking his own career prosecutors, comparing them to preschoolers, saying they're not always nonpartisan and an are more like headhunters, prosecuting people, not crimes >> in recent years the department of justice has sometimes acted like a trade association for prosecutors. more like that than the administrator of a fair system of justice based on clear and sensible rules in case after case, we've advanced and defended hyperaggressive extensions of the criminal law this is wrong and we have to stop doing it. >> joining me now is peter strzok who served as a fbi counterintelligence officer for decades, rise to go become the deputy of its counterintelligence division his new book is "compromised:

counterintelligence and the threat of donald j. trump. welcome, thank you very much,'s good to meet you the attorney general now has really lambasted career prosecutors, saying they're receiving too much deference rather than the politically appointed leaders who cab held accountable at the ballot box and is accused of charging protesters with sedition let's start with the prosecutors. what's your reaction to that >> thanks for having me, andrea. what a horrible, disingenuous statement from the attorney general about the thousands of men and women who work for our department of justice. he spends a lot of time talking about the political basis of his authority but he doesn't spend a lot of time talking about legitimacy of that power i spent over 20 years working side by side with countless prosecutors pursuing the truth in a blind and apolitical manner and when i see people who are quitting and leaving the department of justice, they're not doing that based on any

political agenda they're doing it because they're officers of the court. they're doing it, whether it's the four attorneys on the stone prosecution, the lead prosecutor of mike flynn, recently the deputy of john durham and the work they're doing they're not doing the it out of a political agenda, certainly not acting as children they're doing it because of what they see as the unacceptable politicization of the department of justice and that the law is no longer being applied blindly. for him to make comments like that is astoundingly bad and inaccurate and he should know better. >> i want to ask you about russia obviously that's the main focus of your book, and your concerns about the president being compromised. just today, we're seeing this playing out on capitol hill. as you well know, there is an annual threat hearing that is always being held in the house and the senate, usually in february and that didn't take place this year this year it's been delayed, it's only being done on the house side, today.

nobody from cia, dni, nsa, dea, the fbi director is there, and the head of the counterterrorism center is there, but none of the top intelligence officials and this comes as there's an open op-ed today from former director of national intelligence dan coats, writing today that congress should establish a bipartisan commission to monitor voting to ensure that laws and regulations are followed the concern is principally about russia and russian interference, which has not been focused on in the written statements from the dni, they focus on china and iran and sort of analogize that all of them are in the same category, but that's not what chris wray had to say. take a look at this during the testimony today. >> we certainly have seen very active, very active efforts by the russians to influence our election in 2020 through what i

would call more the malign foreign influence side of things social media, use of proxies, state media, online journals, et cetera, an effort to both sow divisiveness and discord, and i think the intelligence community has assessed this publicly, to primarily denigrate vice president biden and what the russians see as kind of an anti-russian stablishment. >> but the intelligence officials have been downplaying the russian threat what do you see going on there >> well, these briefings are critical i spent innumerable hours preparing officials for these meetings these hearings explain what is going on, what is facing america

from a foreign threat perspective. and it's also to ask hard questions to make sure the intelligence community is telling the truth and that they're focused on the right threats and thanks are in front of us. think about what the director of the fbi said here is the director of the fbi telling congress today that russia is actively interfering in our investigations for the purpose to hurt former vice president biden. how is that possibly acceptable? how does that not merit some sort of response from this administration to tell them to stop, to disrupt this behavior that may be going on behind the scenes, but that's the sort of attack that's fundamentally not something any american should stand for. and we need to be hearing more out of the administration to stop that behavior >> your book is called "compromised." you believe president trump is compromised by the russians. you make the point of the way he talked to lavrov and kislyak in the oval office and the whole issue of comey's firing, what he

said to lester holt. but there was no proof established in the mueller investigation. >> that's not quite true, andrea the mueller investigation said they were unable to bring to a legal standard to bring criminal charges that something had occurred but they point throughout the report to a variety of deep counterintelligence concerns when you add that to the recent bipartisan senate intelligence committee report, almost a thousand pages from a republican senate committee laying out all these concerns, the data is too great to ignore. so yes, i believe that the president is compromised by the russians and i think that takes a lot of forms. i think it comes through financial entanglements that he is fighting to become known, that the russians can hold over him. i also think continuaticomes fr can play to his ego, his strange fascination with dictators around the world >> i remember talking to in the summer of 2017 to a former intel official who said that "follow the money" was going to be the

mantra and that the investigation that had been started by the fbi into donald trump and his dealings, his financial dealings, would mean that the fbi would have his tac taxes, would follow the money to russia, would find out about the trump/moscow efforts and they did find out that michael cohen had lied about the timeline of when the trump/moscow negotiations stopped, because they did continue during the campaign, all of that. yet rod rosenstein seems to have walled all of that off were you surprised that there was no followup on the money entanglements that might have led to compromise of the president? >> well, clearly in my mind, following the money is the key to understanding any sort of leverage the russians might hold over the president i did not experience, certainly from the deputy attorney general, any limitation on what i was doing when i was setting up the fbi component of the special counsel's office doing that sort of financial investigation that you talk about would be a massive

undertaking. probably one of the biggest counterintelligence investigations in the fbi's history. i left before that really got up and running so i don't know what happened it may well be that it was a very robust effort that continues maybe to this day, involving all the intelligence community. but i'm concerned that had that happened, i would have expected to have heard about it somewhere, that there would have been discussions or protests out of the president or his attorneys about turning over financial documents, much like we see them doing today. so while i don't know whether it's done or not, i have a lot of concern that it was never pushed through to its logical conclusion and done in a comprehensive way. >> given what happened with flynn and also with roger stone and what came down from the attorney general, from washington and the people around him, are you concerned about the durham probe and the resignation of his top prosecutor and whether this is going to be some october surprise >> well, look, i know that i haven't done anything wrong, let

alone illegal. nor had anybody else that i worked with around the senior leadership, around the team in 2016 so i'm not quite sure why his investigation is still continuing, because i just don't see any basis for it i'm certainly concerned, while he has a reputation of being a very objective fact-finder, when i see things like his primary deputy that he worked with for decades on really complex investigations, resigning out of, if you believe the reporting in "the hartford courant," out of a belief that the process had become politicized, that their work had been rushed for a political agenda, that gives me a lot of concern that something is coming that is not based on fact or objective investigation but rather something designed to be political in nature and if it's bad enough that this career attorney who has just nothing but a laudable service record feels compelled to resign, that gives me a lot of concern. >> peter strzok, thank you so much for being with us the book is "compromised."

it is a fascinating read about such a career in counterintelligence which came to a very unfortunate and untimely end thank you so much for being with us today >> thank you, andrea coming up next, assessing the damage communities hit hard by hurricane sally with massive storm surge and severe flooding all along the gulf coast and the wildfire heroes, including onegroup braving the dangers of the blazes up and down the west coast to rescue and reunite animals with their families you'reat wching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. t. still a father. but now a friend. still an electric car. just more electrifying. still a night out. but everything fits in. still hard work. just a little easier. still a legend. just more legendary. chevrolet. making life's journey, just better.

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millions of people along the gulf coast are waking up today to destruction hurricane sally has weakened to a tropical depression, ravaging parts of florida with rain and wind more than a million people lost power, as downed trees and home damage affected millions of people after weeks of dry heat, hazardous air, and raging flames, wildfires continue to blaze up and down the west coast and rescue missions are under way to find anyone who might still be alive in the debris and ashes, including animals the international fund for animal welfare, a global nonprofit, has deployed its team to california to find and rescue animals separated from their families or stuck in the rubble. senior program officer for

disaster response jennifer gardner is one of the rescuers who crosses the fire lines, just this week she found an older dog injured and traumatized and in need of rescue given the nickname "wonder," the organization is taking care of her while searching for her family jennifer gardner and wonder join me now tell me about your work and just the remarkable efforts you make to save these animals. >> yeah, as you can imagine, it is the quite a devastating scene here in butte county, california and so we have really been working hard there are -- it's a big team here that's helping to find animals and provide the care that they need until they're able to return to their families >> what condition is wonder in talk to me about wonder and how she managed to survive and what's her condition >> i have wonder with me here

today. i do not know how she survived the property where we found her, all of the neighboring areas were burned. i don't even know if that was where she lived. the cars were melted, the structures were gone and somehow she just happened to be at the right place, at the right time, while we were there. and we were able to get her to safety but she's doing well here. we've had her checked out by a veterinarian, she's getting great care she's really sweet was she so scared in the beginning when we found her but now she's coming around, she has a nice little pep to her step and she's just a really sweet dog. >> how do you try to reunite the pets, the animals, with their owners, their families, when most of the families have been burned out, they've evacuated? how do you begin to try to bring them together? >> well, so what we've done here

is, there's an emergency shelter that's been set up, and for all of the animals where we do not have a current owner for them, they are staying here. and the pictures of these animals are up on the website, owners can come and reclaim their pets and if they are unable to take them because they've lost their homes, the animals will stay here and we will continue to provide care for them until they're able to go home >> now, are there some large animals as well, do you have some farm animals that you've rescued? >> yes, so there is another property, another emergency shelter is set up that the north valley animal disaster group is managing there are many horses and goats and chickens there as well as other farm animals as you can see in the photos we're showing, our teams have been out there as well to help evacuate some of these animals that have miraculously survived these fires. it's really quite devastating and unlievable in some of these situations, like those

goats, for example we just don't know how they survived that fire is just so hot everything is just gone. and they were in a pen, and, i mean, it truly was a miracle >> and have you experienced some heartwarming reunions already? >> oh, yeah. of course that's kind of the highlight to everybody's day here it's really busy days in the shelter, as you can imagine, walking dogs and cleaning, it takes a lot of time and effort and it's really hard work. when we hear that an owner is coming to take home their animal, everybody sort of gathers in the front and the tears start flowing. it's really emotional for owners who have lost everything to be able to come get their pet or at least see their pet and know they're okay when these fires happen, sometimes people aren't at home, and they're not able to take their pets because they're not there, and there's just not enough time. it's such a different type of

disaster compared to a hurricane, for example and so you can imagine how scary that would be, to have evacuated and not know what's going on with your pet. when they come in and they're able to find they're okay, it's really an emotional experience, very heartwarming. it really makes it all worth it. >> thank you and all the people in your teams for what you're doing. it makes all of us feel there's at least some hope, some happiness out of this hideous disaster thank you again, jennifer gardner. next, how to stay healthy during the flu season.

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expected period of protection for the high dose vaccines and which of those is best >> so for elderly people who we know are more susceptible to severe complications of flu and who don't respond so well to the normal flu vaccine, we do recommend high dose influence vaccines, or something else called adjuvant flu vaccine. they boost your immune system more, and they are expected to last longer than six months. these are the vaccines we prefer to give to high risk individuals and they are available many team don't know about them. so those are what you should be asking your pharmacist or doctor for if you're above the age of 65 >> doctor, how can you tell the difference, when you begin to have a cough or a sore throat or runny nose, the difference between covid and the flu? >> you can't and i can't either so that's the importance of diagnostic testing we're going to have to be able to distinguish influenza from coronavirus. they are two different treatment

pathways, one might include tamiflu, one might include remdesivir and steroids. no one will be able to tell the two apart otherwise. >> we've had this conflict now with the president rebuking the cdc director on both masks and vaccines how much is all this mixed messaging concerning you now, the politics of it >> it's very, very concerning. we've seen it from the very start of this pandemic, that there is this attack on expertise. and i think it's because experts have an fealty to science and facts. it's unfortunate, the cdc director is being attacked by the president. the cdc director deserves better than this, we in america have suffered because the cdc has been in the back seat when it comes to this pandemic >> and the mask can help protect you against the flu as well, so wear the mask.

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you'll not protect rights you don't understand >> and let's look at some of the data you've come up with 73% of americans named freedom of speech. that's up from 48% just three years ago. freedom of speech in the midst of this protest movement seems to be really important 47% named freedom of religion. that's up from 15% in 2017 42% naming freedom of the press up from 14%. these are big increases you can see from that graph. that makes you point >> and it also -- it means in the press coverage of contemporary politics, the press is doing a better job. so as we're seeing, for example, protests, when the press presupposes that we know about our rights and doesn't spend just a little time reminding us of what they are, what the boundaries of what government can and cannot do are, we're less likely to pick that up from the exposure to news media it appears news coverage has

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director today russia is at it again, more in terms of disinformation than hacking. >> yeah, cyberwar is out in a new edition that in the new edition looks to what we should be prepared for in 2020. including changes in what the russians are about we ought to look, for example, for news sites that pretend they're local news but they're not ours they're imposter sites that give us local news, talk about local events and maybe sitting there waiting on election day to start to say, oh, everything is, for example, rigged or there's fraud and abuse. >> well, we're going to have to leave it there, but we'll talk a lot about this in the next 47 days thank you so much, kathleen. that does it for us for "andrea mitchell reports." chuck todd is up next with "mtp daily" right here on msnbc and it's already available in parts of select cities. like los angeles. and in new york city.

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