that does it for us. see you back here tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern. as always, find me on social media @ari melber on facebook or instagram, wherever you go online keep it here the readout with joy reed is up next one of the loudest and frankly whineyest rallying cries from donald trump's basis that they are the victims it is what helped trump get elected, stoking fears of some white americans that were angry and anxious about losing their standing as america's racial elite. but this thing, this phenomenon that people with privilege are now the ones that are oppressed. you see it everywhere in trump's america, from outrage over affirmative action and immigration as the theft of their jobs or status to now loss of freedom to a seven inch piece

of cloth that's of course the mask. the mask the life-saving object that supposedly is robbing america of its promise of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness it is the mask picking away at our humanity apparently. rather than say police officers disproportionately are killing people of color on tape, or a government that puts kids in stages or sterilizes immigrant women, no, this belief that mask wearing, really all covid restrictions are somehow assaults on our freedom is being legitimized, not just by donald trump but william barr, your attorney general, who instead acts like trump's personal lawyer and fixer, who made this outrageous statement at a conservative college in michigan >> putting a national lockdown, stay at home orders is like house arrest it's, other than slavery which was a different kind of

restraint, this is the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in american history [ applause ] >> let's just be clear 245 years of forced labor, rape, breeding and violent sub jog agency of human beings is slavery, and nothing, not being asked to cover your sneezes in walmart comes anywhere close to that to even utter that these two things in the same sentence is absurd and infuriating make no mistake, barr and trump who eggs on the protesters in tweets are architects of the now right wing truism that covid precautions are some violation of people's human civil rights it should surprise no one their genius followers are taking to the streets as well as to the targets to rise up against cloth. >> because we're being boiled like frogs >> other people here that don't

like our country, i say go live in venezuela or cuba we're not making you stay here if you want that kind of government, go those people in those countries are dying to come to our country for freedom. >> take it off, take it off. >> woo >> take off your mask! take it off! take it off! >> when george floyd was saying i can't breathe and he died, now we're wearing a mask and we say i can't breathe, but we're being forced to do it anyway >> no shirts, no shoes, no service, no liberty. joining me, former federal prosecutors, joyce vance and paul butler. i laugh, paul, but it is ridiculous i'm sorry. william barr equating, saying other than slavery, there's nothing closer to enslavement than being asked to cover up your sneezes and coughs in the target that's dumb. but it's actually working on

supposedly intelligent grown yucatan peninsugrownups >> the purpose of the lockdown was to save lives and it prevented 60 million infections and saved hundreds of thousands of lives in the united states. slavery was not about saving lives. slavery was about rape and torture and tearing families apart. barr is not just making false equivalents, he is making a history denying false equivalent to compare slavery to having to stay home a few months a stunning ignorance of both history and science. >> you know, and the thing that's crazy making or that's frustrating, joyce vance, is that if joe biden were to win the election, he would then face

what could amount to an anti-mask insurgency inside the country. a certain percentage of americans who will perceive a national lockdown as some tyranny, and that could get violent. some people have shown up with guns to protest mask orders in their states already what legal footing would joe biden have if he became president to enact a national stay at home order or mask orders, would he actually have that authority >> so there are a lot of different actions you can take in response to a legitimate public health sort of crisis, and i suspect that the biden team has already looked very carefully at their options and that they'll move forward with that, depending what conditions are like, should biden win the election the problem here as you point out is the attorney general is already setting up a context where a lot of people will believe a masking order would not be legal, that other public

health measures would be violative of civil liberties what's most abomb inable, the attorney general is running a campaign effort out of the justice department main building on pennsylvania avenue, it is watching him campaign for the president while he's cloaked in office, that's increasingly become so difficult here, he panders to the worst part of the president's base with comments about slavery and some of the other things he said this week. >> no kidding. william barr, this is his record, findings of the mueller report, lying about them to try to make trump look innocent. removi removing prosecutors trying to look at donald trump's friends, pushing lower sentences for michael flynn, roger stone moving to kill the e. jean carol suit, saying the justice department can represent trump in that. dispatching the national guard,

sticking them on peaceful protesters we found there was a desire to have a heat ray turned on the protesters, the military says police considered using heat rays on white house protesters whistle-blower says the national guard called in to enforce the crackdown on protesters saying they sought to use heat rays don't know if it went through barr but it is barr-esque. and politicking for donald trump about socialism. >> as an attorney general, i am not supposed to get into politics i think we were getting into a position where we were going to find ourselveser revokably committed to the socialist path and i think if trump loses this election that that will be the case >> have you ever, paul, as prosecutor, ever heard an attorney general talk like that about an election?

>> never seen an attorney general as explicitely political as william barr. when i worked for the justice department doing public corruption cases, several of my progressive friends said it will all be political i worked in democratic and republican administrations we brought the cases based on the facts. that's not what this attorney general is doing he is specifically going after protesters connected with the movement for black lives he is doing that because that's the president's political interest as you said, he's the president's fixer. he's the president's roy cohen he got disbarred what will be the sanction for william barr >> yeah, one wonders let's play a little more of william barr he also doesn't seem to respect people that work for him i wonder how anyone gets up every day, gets dressed, works for this man hearing him talk like this. here is recall belittling the

people he works for and comparing them to preschoolers >> name one successful organization or institution where the lowest level employees' decisions are deemed sacrosanct they aren't. there aren't any letting the most junior members set the agenda might be a good philosophy for a montesorri preschool, it is no way to run a federal agency individual prosecutors can sometimes become headhunters, all too often, consumed with taking down their target >> you know, joyce, that made hairs on the back of my neck stand up and i don't work there. he is basically putting down people that did prosecutions against people like michael flynn that displeases donald trump so it displeases william barr, so they're montesorri students i don't know how people react to something like that. how would you? >> so this makes me incredibly

angry on behalf of all my former colleagues and prosecutors in d offices nationwide he never tried a case in a courtroom, not sure he would know how to. doesn't look to me that he would be good at it. the reality, i hope prosecutors won't resign, i hope they double down, continue to do their work in the professional way we know we can expect from career lawyers at doj i had a colleague email this morning, former colleague, said he was up at 4:30 a.m. getting work done so i could accomplish our mission and i will still be here when he is gone i hope all those people will still be there so they can serve the public like they've done despite abuse they've taken in this administration. >> and paul, one of the things people do when they get up every morning, according to the fbi director christopher wray, working violent extremism cases. that's according to director

wray what most of the work is now. yet you have barr out here telling federal prosecutors they ought to be charging rioters wi with sedition. he wanted charges against the mayor of seattle for allowing a protest zone pushing for charges against prosecutors in terms of a crackdown that led to 300 arrests on federal crimes in the george floyd protest he is not concentrating on that at all >> some of the 300 people charged with federal crimes are right wing agitators that came to disrupt protesters, two members of bugala boys were charged with enforcement from a law enforcement officer. black lives matter protesters, some federal charges seem ginned

up to score political points according to the associated press, a teenager posted online we're not each other's enemies, the police are the enemy, and that kid has been charged with a federal crime. compare that, joy, to who has not been charged with federal crimes kyle rittenhouse who shot two protesters dead in kenosha, wounded another. trump defended him the couple who pointed guns at nonviolent protesters in st. louis haven't been charged with a federal crime, instead were invited to speak at the republican convention. >> yeah. how do you deal with lawlessness at the top at the department of justice. thank you both for being here. appreciate your time up next on the reid out, a former trump adviser says trump has a disregard for human life. >> when we were in a task force meeting, the president said maybe the individual thing is a good thing i don't like shaking hands with

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in a political ad says she saw firsthand what he really cares about. >> the president didn't want to hear that because his biggest concern was that we were in election year, how was this going to effect what he considered to be a record of success. truth is he doesn't actually care about anyone else but himself. >> he certainly has proved he doesn't care about human lives when in an abc news town hall tuesday seemed toadvocate for the ridiculously dangerous idea you heard floating around him and his people about herd immunity >> sure, with time, it goes, and you develop like a herd mentality. it will be herd developed, and that's going to happen >> herd mentality. paging dr. freud we would like to remind you of something our friends in the rachel maddow show dug into last night. according to mayo clinic,

roughly 70% of the population would have to recover from covid-19 to halt the epidemic. that means with population of 330 million people, roughly 230 million people would have to infected 230 million, with roughly 3% fatality rate in this country according to johns hopkins, that means potentially 6.9 million more americans would have to die to get donald trump his herd immunity take that in for a second. that appears to be the plan. i'm joined by david plouffe, former campaign manager for obama's campaign, and dr. patel, fellow at the brookings institution. um, it is shocking to think, dr. patel, that any human being, anyone with a heart and soul would ever be willing to risk 6.9 million of fellow americans or human beings dying because they don't want to fight the virus, they want to let it take

us basically this appears to be the plan. i mean, i saw this the first time there was a plan in the postal service in april, u.s. postal service leaders drafted a news release with plans to distribute 650 million masks nationwide, enough to offer five face coverings to every american household. there was a press release and everything written up. it was never sent because the white house didn't want it if you don't want coronavirus to kill people, you send that out they stopped it. does it look to you like, and rachel maddow did a great job on this last night, does it look to you like in practice this administration is going for the hertd immunity gam bit >> it does the case of the masks is one of so many, starting with the audiotapes we heard where the president acknowledged how

serious this was way back in january and kind of every action since then has gone against scientific advice, public health advice, and now we are learning even in the last 72 hours, joy, that we've had career scientists whose opinionsor facts stymied by political appointees, not even dr. redfield who i have been very critical of tried to speak some truth this week, but people who are in charge of communications at hhs, not distributing masks is one thing. lying to the american people and then honestly, joy, what gave me heartburn was rebuke of dr. redfield when he said masks could save lives potentially more than a vaccine. that was his moment to turn around the country's action in not making this political, and the president did what he punished him, said he made a mistake, and he is not privy to the information the president

is that's simply just not true. now we have been left to pick up the pieces >> let's hear that just what you're talking about this is donald trump rebuking dr. redfield, head of the cdc on the subject of masks >> these face masks are the most important powerful public health tool we have i might go so far as to say this fake mask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid than when i take a covid vaccine. >> number one, it is not more effective than a vaccine on masks, masks have problems, too. as far as the mask is concerned, he made a mistake. >> and you know, david plouffe, trump obviously says this is just a pr problem. we need to get messaging right, get people back to school, and everything will be fine, as if people won't still be dying or won't find out how many have died we learned tonight from "new york times," the same cdc that

redfield runs didn't write its own testing guidelines published on the website a heavily criticized recommendation from centers for disease control who should be tested for coronavirus was not written by the cdc scientists and was posted despite serious objections you now have interference from political units into the scientific process, because though want pr to look like everything is fine i don't even know what to ask you about this i'm going to let you comment on it >> first of all, joy, having worked in the white house, someone like me, and i had governmental responsibilities wouldn't be anywhere near something like that. what we find out every day here is it is worse than we thought we all thought it was pretty bad. it is dangerous, dumb, and dereliction of duty, and donald trump doesn't have credibility with the american people, outside of his herd, that's

about 20% of the country i wish it was 2. everybody else doesn't trust him. they trust people like dr. redfield, they trust medical professionals, and scientists. here we are where we still have 19 states with rising cases, and you're still getting from the president negative and mixed messages about something as simple as wearing a mask so he views everything, the pot you mention for mike pence's covid task force member, such a brave and i think brutal indictment of trump's leadership from somebody who saw it first is so important. he sees everything through his distorted narcissistic own windshield, and it is about him. but at the end of the day, american people don't see it as a pr problem, they see it as a problem. they don't want to die or go to the hospital, they want kids to go back to school, want small businesses to open at the end of the day, i think donald trump is not being

listened to by the american people on this any more. at the end of the day, has to face re-election in weeks, and the most important issue to the american people is the pandemic, how it was mismanaged. who do you trust to manage it going forward. is anybody trusting donald trump to properly execute distribution of a vaccine that's what he calls into question every day >> here's the problem. can we show this this is a target, and florida, come on, you can do better than this in ft. lauderdale invading a group of people took it upon themselves to invade this target with masks off, run through it, with even their children or some children with them, and start, quote, unquote, protesting there are people that listen to him. when mike pence's aide says donald trump doesn't care about human life, it is these lives he doesn't care about, dr. patel. these people could be sick, could be spreading covid when they leave this target,

everyone that comes in this target after them is now at risk because they've now yelled and screamed and spewed droplets all over the cereal, carpets, pillows, everything. are we safe from them? >> no. i mean, this virus doesn't know blue or red or boundaries or any color. what it does know is how to stay alive. the virus will be incredibly smart propagating itself many of us know even with the vaccine, we're going to need to deal with these public health measures and be responsible. and joy, while we have been talking, there have been at least three people died of covid. we're clocking in a thousand deaths, not cases, deaths, a day. we're clearly, the virus is clearly winning while we're having a president who is lying to us and dividing doctors and health professionals, having to deal with people now that are

skeptical about this, and candidly, joy, the most disturbing thing, starting to see people that doesn't necessarily believe public health professionals or want to get a vaccine, even if deemed safe and effective the destruction will be long-standing. >> yeah. stuck on stupid. it is like a broken record we're never going to get out of the nightmare until the majority of americans accept this is real, do the minimum covering sneezes is not losing your liberty for god's sakes thank you both very much coming up, which is the greatest threat to the election, foreign interference or donald trump's ongoing frenzied assault on mail-in voting or how about option c, all of the above "the reid out" continues after this ...standing in the struggle. ...standing in the struggle. hustling through the hurt. asking for science, not sorrys. our time... ...for more time...

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welcome back donald trump spent another morning live tweeting his favorite morning show, and again attacking use of mail in ballots. in the latest temper tantrum, he claims as a result of ballots the election results may never accurately be determined if people don't vote in person it will be mayhem. he continues to defend absentee ballots which is how he and his cronies make their vote, which are the same as mail in ballots. secretary griswold, thank you for being here looking at a denver post headline, a federal judge blocked the postal service from sending mailers with incorrect voting information to colorado residents. you said this was misleading, want them to pay for it. can you explain why you sued >> thank you for having me on. colorado welcomes you back if

you want to come for a visit yes. we were alerted last thursday. whatever you want. last thursday, we were told the postal service was planning to send a mailer with wrong information for colorado as secretary of state, i am making sure we have correct information out. we filed the restraining order, we'll have that hearing tomorrow it underlines the amount of misinformation in elections. we need to be spreading good information, confusion, chaos leads to low voter turnout could suppress the vote itself >> yeah. colorado has been voting 100% by mail since 2013. colorado is very good at this. when you hear this kind of misinformation, and when you see what's been done by louis dejoy to the postal service, are you worried? i know you were in a meeting with him today did you address concerns, with dejoy at the head of the postal

service, usps wouldn't be prepared this cycle to handle a colorado election? >> well, colorado has been voting by mail for several years. the colorado election model is very straightforward you register to vote, you're sent a ballot, you return it to one of hundreds of drop boxes through the mail or vote in person we have early voting we believe in accessible elections. and you are correct. i spoke with post master general today, it is the first time after months of trying to talk with him, and believe it or not, he admitted that he does not agree with president trump's lies about vote by mail, and i asked him specifically if he had confidence in postal workers saying i have confidence in postal workers, i thought the attorney general's statements about postal workers being bribed was just outlandish, intended to undermine confidence, and he said he agreed, but there is major concern by the post master general. a federal judge also today just determined in a multi state suit

that the post master general and the president has been acting in a politically motivated way with treatment of the united states postal service to help themselves politically >> yeah. you spoke with mr. dejoy, did you address the fact that he has undermined the physical maintenance of the postal service such that structurally it makes it harder for the postal service because again, it is all mail in ballots, how colorado votes are you worried because of his intervention, the postal service may not be able this cycle to handle ballots >> in colorado, we're confident we're going to have a great election we have a great relationship with mail carriers, regional postal leadership, and the federal lawsuit that was a multi state lawsuit that was partially decided today, injunction came down, bars the postal master and post office from making any

other changes. but overall, i think it is really important to highlight in a big way that the president is using any tool to try to undermine the election we have a president of the united states willing to try to cheat to keep power and that's so undemocratic, so unamerican and we have to do everything we can to safeguard our democracy >> absolutely. watch colorado, america. colorado knows how to do this and they do it very well when it comes to elections colorado secretary of state, thank you so much. see you in denver when we can travel again. meanwhile, jane fonda joins me next how she's using her star power and civil disobedience to fight for the cause she believes in so excited for this conversation stay with us guys! guys! safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! safe drivers do save 40%. click or call for a quote today.

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actress, founder of the women's media center, and author of "what can i do". it is great to talk with you thank you so much for coming on the show tonight let's talk a little about, start with the book. you write in the book "what can i do" that came out september 8th, as important as our individual life-style decisions are, they cannot be brought to scale in time to get us where we need to be by 2030 it's structural change we need to focus on while continuing individual commitments to the planet maybe the friday actions would help bring about that policy change you're talking about fire drill fridays that you started talk about that. what is it, why did you start it >> when you're famous, you have a platform the question is how to use it most effectively and responsibly. it is fired by greta thunberg

and a book that motivated me to get off my butt. worked with greenpeace, moved to d.c. every thursday night we had a teach in focusing on a specific aspect of the climate crisis, oceans, trees, forest, jobs, women, the military, et cetera celebrities like my friend sam waterston, ben and jerry are coming tomorrow. we're continuing them virally. or i should say virtually. and then the next day, friday, we would have a rally focusing on the same issue, then we would engage in civil disobedience, risk getting arrested. civil disobedience, history proved that's the only thing that works when you tried everything else, when you tried all of the levers that democracy offers you, protesting, marching, writing, lobbying, petitioning, and you're not listened to, then you step it

up when we started, we didn't know if it would work, if it would gain traction or some stunt by an old movie star coming to d.c. people started coming in large numbers. every week there would be more and more people, coming from all over the country they had never engaged in civil disobedience before, and i asked them how do you feel great. it made them feel empowered, had they ever done it before no that's what we were aiming for you know, the yale project on climate and communication says there are 23 million americans that care about the climate who have never done anything about it because nobody asked them there are 13 million who would engage in civil disobedience, but nobody asked them. that's what we're doing. we're rousing the great unasked. we needunprecedented numbers i order to change the policies and

laws that brought us what we have now >> so i think for a lot of people when people think climate, if not thinking of wildfires that are devastating the west, you're seeing blood red skies and seeing the visual image between that and hurricanes of what climate change is bringing right now, the green new deal is what's talked about we'll put up what that is for those that don't know. i sometimes forget what all of it is. greenhouse emissions by 2050, upgrade existing buildings, getting america on board with cars, et cetera. how do you get from knowing what it is, talking about it in theory, even with fires burning to get people to focus on this and actually get people to want to implement it. >> they do they are getting focused it is hard not to when your state is on fire not only is the state on fire, birds are falling out of the air.

dive bombing dead into the ground because of the bad air. you know, it's talking about it is important, because if you don't talk about it, you can't care about it. if you don't care, you won't act. we need to act the main thing we have to alct about is getting rid of fossil fuels, not at once, but science and covid taught us this, importance of listening to science and experts. says we have to cut fuel emissions in half in ten years now, that's really, really hard and not going to happen unless unprecedented numbers of people demand it, no matter who is elected in november. november is important. what happens during the election, you choose your opponent, by opponent i mean the person that you're going to have to go up against when you want other things to happen, like equal pay for equal work between men and women, like all of the things that need to happen in

this country it is not just a climate crisis. our society, the fabric of our society is unraveling. the great thing about the green new deal is it gives us a way to do it all at once. but we have to get rid of fossil fuels. that's the main thing. >> yeah. well, jane fonda, you're out there fighting the good fight. thank you so much for giving us some of your time. stay at it >> i'm happy to see you. it is great that you're in this position now i love it. we love watching you. >> okay. i officially retire. that's it, i'm done. not doing any more tv. jane fonda knows who i am. thank you very much. i appreciate you thank you so much. up next. wow. that happened. up next, the fight for the south. u.s. senate candidate jamie harrison is here to talk about his tight race against lindsey graham st wayith us i'll retire later. unlimited right. start with america's most awarded network. include the best in entertainment and offer plans to mix and match starting at $35. plus, get the samsung galaxy s20 5g uw on us

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our democracy has been entirely negative and corrosive but mitch mcconnell is just as dangerous. under mcconnell's control, conservatives passed the court and refused to take up legislation that would protect the election from foreign interference to unseat mcconnell, democrats would need to either beat him in november or they need to hold a senate seat in alabama and pick up four seats from republicans three if democrats win the white house. now, there are 13 opportunities for democrats to flip senate seats versus just two for republicans. in one of those unexpected democratic opportunities is in south carolina where a new quinnipiac poll shows lindsey graham tied with his democratic challenger jaime harrison

48%/48%. and jaime harrison joins me now. this poll was sort of a shot across the bow to your opponent right now donald trump is leading joe biden in your state 51/45 according to the same company, quinnipiac, but you are ahead. can you explain. you're tied. can you explain why you seem to be outdoing or outpolling the vice president right now >> that's because, you know, joy, that old adage of all politics is local, it's true you know, lindsey graham has been in washington, d.c. for 25 years, and 18 of those spent in the united states senate and people understand that this lindsey graham is very different than the other old lindsey graham this lindsey graham doesn't really care about the people in south carolina and the issues they're dealing with on a day-to-day basis what he cares about is his own re-election, going on shawn hannity every night instead of doing the town halls here,

addressing the issues that people are dealing with it it is sad when your senator fights against you instead of fights for you here in south carolina, we had over 700,000 people file for unemployment in our state. and it was our senator that stopped unemployment who says something like that when your people are desperate and they are in need and need help but that's what lindsey graham has done and that's part of the reason why we are neck and neck in this race, and it's going to be the reason why we end up winning this race. >> yeah. and i should note we did invite lindsey graham on, by the way. you have a better favorable rate than senator graham. 47% to a favorable opinion of you. only 44% have a favorable opinion of him but the unfavorable opinion, he's underwater by five points in terms of his favorable,

unfavorables while your unfavorables are 34, so i guess fewer people know you. i wonder if part of the reason that you feel this was an opportunity. is it lindsey graham won his races but not by an overwhelming margin how do you beat that he's won with about 55% in the past structurally how do you actually beat this guy? >> well, part of this is just about this campaign, joy listen, lindsey graham is trying to scare people to vote for him. i'm trying to inspire people to vote for me. so structurally, our campaign is built around hope. it's about the hopes and the aspirations and tackling the fears that people are dealing with so the way that i talk about things, i talk about it in the way that people perceive it. their hospitals are closing in rural communities. there aren't a democratic or a republican solution to it. they just want a solution. when your roads are crumbling,

you don't care if it is a democratic or republican solution you just want somebody with a solution i'm talking about the issues that people are dealing with 38% of rural communities in south carolina don't have access to broad band, and some of the ones that do, joy, it is slower than you would find in venezuela. what we are doing and building here is a movement that's why i need people to go down jaimeharrison.com be a part of our movement to transform south carolina and transform the south when we do that as well >> yeah. we're finally hearing that there is going to be some spending from the democratic spending committee in the south the word is they will spent about seven figures in the south. do you believe that democrats in general are missing an opportunity? i asked my team to pull up some of the polling on these southern races. in kentucky mitch mcconnell is doing quite well let's set that aside for a moment georgia looks competitive. the david purdue race is a two

point race the john kor than race where me's up significantly. but in general if you go through mississippi and some of these other states, are democrats missing an opportunity by not putting more money in the south, even in races like alabama where they need an incumbent to defend like doug jones? >> well, it is important that you compete everywhere it is important that when you think about the south, and i talk about the south often, you have a large pocket of african-american voters right there in the south and they need representation, too. the entire region. and some of the issues that we are dealing with are consistent. in south carolina, in georgia, in mississippi, we have rural hospitals that have closed, and that is because people like lindsey graham have refused to expand medicate. and, you know, those areas also

don't have broad band. i mean, these issues are consistent the issues i talk about in south carolina are the same issues they're dealing with in mississippi, in georgia and alabama. so it is time for a new leadership that is addressing the ills of the people, and i believe it is important to invest in the south. it's really important. and i hope that we see more investment not only in my race but across the region. >> yeah. is lindsey graham going to debate you he seems to like to try to get at you on twitter. i don't know why he doesn't focus on donald trump. is he going to debate you? >> well, joy, he is desperate at this moment. but he is -- has agreed to three debates. so october 3rd, october 12th and the 21st, i believe, of october. but he's a very desperate guy at this point in time >> yeah. well, it's an interesting twitter conversation the two of you are having we definitely look forward to those debates. thank you very much.

really appreciate you being here always good luck. and meanwhile, tomorrow night i'm going to be joined by comedian and talk show host larry wilmore. that should be a fun conversation and that is tonight's "reid out. "all in" starts right now. tonight on "all in." 40,000 plus cases a day. tonight dr. anthony fauci on the federal government's response to coronavirus, where this country is headed and what the general public should really expect when it comes to a vaccine. then a dire warning from donald trump's former director of national intelligence that american democracy is in danger. the new investigation into claims of unnecessary medical procedures at an ice detention facility and what is going on with attorney general bill barr >> you know, other than slavery, which was a different ki