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"politics nation." tonight's lead, luminary. a great human light went out yesterday and tonight we join the nation in memorializing supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg, who passed away add the age of 27 from complications of pancreatic cancer. mourners flooded the steps of the supreme court last night singing songs to her memory, which has been celebrated by foes along, including president trump, who ordered white house flags to fly at half mast today in the justice's honor. ginsburg was a defining figure of american judicial life for nearly 50 years. leading the charge for women's rights in the nation's top courts, before becoming a liberal lion on the highest bench. we'll have more on the justice's impact and what her passing means for the court and the country. all throughout tonight's show.

joining me now, the former attorney general of the united states during the obamaed administration. i was in the court room with a small group of civil rights leaders, hearing oral argument of shelby verses holder and other cases. and i always admired the stater. whether in the majority or the descent, something near and dear to your heart and you fought for even before you were attorney general. what do you think is the defining legacy of justice ginsburg. >> well, i think that regardless of how you view her on the court, she was a legal giant for the work that she did before she got on the court. to my mind, one of the two great

civil rights lawyers who ended up on the court. and what she did toed a van adv cause of women's rights. that work itself would make hear giant. on the court, she certainly advanced those issues. i think she also gave particular emphasis and i think was eloquent in the way she described the danger to the democracy in the ways the electoral system was being subverted. citizens united that let untold amountsz of money into the system or the recent court decision with regard to cutting off the court, federal courts from hearing cases about partisan jury mandering. she understood, really understood how our democracy was under attack. >> as we all deal with our various ways of relating to her legacy, we're dealing with the fact that the president has said he's going to name someone to

nominate to the u.s. senate to fill her seat and one can't help but go back to how judge was nominated under obama, who you served as attorney general. and clearly the rchb republicans were able to delay it in an election year and garland was never seated. we got judge gorsuch. how do you view the attempt to now do this nomination in an election year, which seems directly the opposite of what they did in a matter of president obama nominating judge garland? >> reverend al, can you spell hypocrisy? i mean, it's blatant hypocrisy. tol toldy totally inconsistent with the position with regard to merrick garland. from my perspective, having a nomination in the last year of the president's term, i don't

have a problem with that. i think what president obama did was appropriate. but when you get this close to an election. i mean, votes have already started to be cast in have a have a a virginia and other states as well. this is much too close to be tendered and considered, especially given the reality where you're likely to have this president be defeated and where you're likely to have a new senate after november the 3rd. so, i think it's hypocritical and really tends to politicize the courts generally, the supreme court specifically and over the long term undermine the legitimacy of the court. >> now, we have many very serious issues. this is not a partisan thing that we're talking about here. you're talking about abortion rights cases, voting rights cases. you're talking about lgbtq rights, the affordable care act. all of these issues are going before this court. and to have a court that is not

representative of at least respecting the consistency and how it's elected, with these heavy matters that effect all americans is in many ways frightening to me. because if we have a tilted court based on some hypocritical politics and these issues are weighed that way, we're talking about generations could be impacted by this. >> that's exactly right. you would put in place, if this is allowed to happen, a 6-3 court. and with all the issues you have talked about, you would have a conservative majority, illegitimate conservative majority on the court ruling on the matters that will effect the nation for generations to come. if merrick garland had been confirmed, as he should have been, there would have been a progressive majority for the past three years. i think if, if in fact they are successful in placing a justice

on the court, i think that what democrats have to do, assuming biden is president and there is a senate majority for the democrats, we need think about court reform. and at a minimum, as part of that reform package, i think additional justices need to be placed on the supreme court. >> shifting gears. your current successor as attorney general, william barr, has acted as the president's bidding, essentially. parroting his boss's attacks on mail-in voting and left-wing protesters. on criticisms of russian interference in our democracy. but i wanted to get your response when you, you, the first black u.s. attorney general hears this regarding the pandemic response just hours after he topped 200,000 cases in the united states. >> you know. putting a national lockdown,

stay-at-home orders is like house arrest. other than slavery, which was a different kind of restraint, this is the greatest intrusion in american history. >> i mean, am i missing something here? to even put slavery and try and compare that to people being asked to stay at home for their own health? how do you respond to that, mr. holder? >> well, that was a frightening statement and the reaction to that statement by the crowd was equally frightening. the notion you could in any way compare slavery to asking people to stay home so that they could stay healthy, keep their neighbors healthy is obviously ridiculous. and to say it's the greatest restraint on civil rights. i guess he's forgetting the japanese internment cases, the whole era of jim crowe, where

you talk about civil liberties taken away from people. think of what happened over the hundred years or so. this is consistent with who barr is and who he's demonstrated himself to be. he's insensitive to the needs and particular problems of people of color in this country. he's a lackey for the president he serves. he's an attorney general that doesn't understand he's supposed to serve the people and not inpresident that appointed him. if people need a reason to get out and vote and vote early, you have to look at what bill barr has done and what he will do if given another four years. in a lot of ways i think he's the most dangerous man in the country with the pow er of the justice department behind him and with the ability he's demonstrated he's willing to use and his world view, he can do very dangerous things to the nation. >> you have fought all of your career for civil rights before you were attorney general, when

you're in the justice department. i remember many years ago, 20 years ago, we fought the case in new york of dialo police case. you're the one that met with his family and at the justice department, way before we started having demonstrations and big marches now around george floyd. and you are now dealing with redistricting. when you hear your successor, mr. barr, say that there is no systemic racism in the country, how do americans have the confidence that he's even going to take seriously civil rights cases when he's already said that when we look in kenosha, that mr. blake was committing a felony and had a weapon, when we know they've announced an investigation. there's no one has seen a felony and no one's seen a weapon. but he's prejudged the outcome of an investigation. how are we a to believe anything

that's come out of the justice department? >> there's no reason to have any and enforce the law and look out for people who don't have the benefits he obviously has had growing up and throughout his career. he doesn't understand that a whole separate america exists. that systemic racism is a problem in this country and has been as long as black people have been a part of the nation. you expect a lot more from an attorney general. he is not a person who is intent on enforcing civil rights laws. he's a political operative. he can't maximize chances that his president is going to be re-elected and if that means trampling on civil rights statutes, ignoring civil rights problems, he is prepared to do that. he has said that in his actions, as well as words. give me great concern about his

continued tenure in the justice department. >> we have michael cohen on the show tomorrow. he corroborated our view that the president would lean on the attorney general barr to stay in office. here's what he told my colleague, joy reed earlier this week. >> what he's going to claim is that the election is rigged. and the day of the election and for the next couple of weeks, he's going to claim they're fake and he's going to use attorney general bill barr in order to invalidate all of those. and he's going to do everything possible in order to insure that he remains president for another four years. >> i'm going to have him on the bar. but i certainly have felt he corroborates that. do you think that is within the realm of the possible, mr. holder? >> i mean, if you'd asked me this four years ago, eight years

ago, i would have said you're talking about a plot for our bad hollywood movie. and yet, givingen the way this president has acted, the way the attorney general has supported him in those actions and conducted itself generally, i don't think we can dismiss any possibility. it's why the biden campaign is preparing for all possible scenarios. and one of the things we have to do is make sure we don't get frightened. everybody needs to have a plan, vote early. needs to make sure those votes are counted. if there are going to be things they do on election day or after. the biden campaign is prepared to deal with that. and i'm part of the team that will be in the field trying to make sure people's votes are counted. what we're fighting for in the biden campaign is simply for a fair process. not looking to get things weighted for democrats unfairly. republicans, it seems, feel they

can only win if they cheat. and so, we've got to be prepared for all the things they might do, as absurd as they might sound and that is what the biden campaign is prepared for and what i'm going to be helping in that effort. >> three weeks ago we had tens of thousands at the march on washington at martin luther king iii and one of the things we are pushing for is the john lewis voting rights bill. that, in essence is answering what the supreme court did on shelby verses holder, you, in taking out section four, the map, of the voting rights act. you were heading up for redistricting. and i don't think people understand that, with map taken out, he could do things like changing voting sites because there's no preclearance and in many ways, not only as a

democrat but period, in terms of redistricting is trying to uphold what john lewis and other thought was successful in making law in 1965. >> that's another reason why the election is so important. got to have joe biden as president and we need a democratic senate. the house has already passed a new voting rights bill, which is what we need. 1700 polling places have been closed. voter purges have been put in place around the country. there was a survey done, looking at the primary in the evening of the primary white folksed to the wait about five minutes to cast the ballot. and that's all as a result of poll closures and other things had been in place, they could

have -- and what you're doing is going to having a negative impact on people of color. for a whole bunch of reasons, this is the most important election of our lives. we say that all the time. frrg but this time it's really true. this is an existential presidential election. but we also have to focus on down ballot races as well for the senate and the state and legislateival races that will be picking people next year. we have to make sure that is din in a fair way so we don't have the jerry mandering that has kept republicans in place, even though they have not gotten more votes than the democrats, a problem in north carolina, texas and other states around the country. and that's what i'm working to undo. >> i know you've been a civil rights lawyer all your life, long before many people heard your name rising on the janet

reno's justice department and becoming barack obama's first attorney general, first black attorney general, you were a civil rights lawyer, working with people like pursy sutton in new york. do you fear for the civil rights of americans, not only black, but asian american, native americans under this administration and attorney general who's succeeded you and loretta lynch? >> yes, i really do. if you look at the way they have attacked the rights of people during the last three, almost four years at this moinlt. and think what they might do without having to worry about a re-election four years from now. i really worry about what it is that they might do to try to curtail the rights that people have, that took a long time in order to obtain. this is an administration that has a world view that is inconsistent with the world view of the majority of the people in

this country but they're prepared to do a whole bunch of things, a, to keep themselves in power, and b, to use that power to make sure there are people who oppose them, who they perceive as in opposition to them are not treated fairly. you would have to look at a whole range of things the economic issues that still show up as products of systemic racism. they're not going to do anything in that regard. anything about education. so, i worry. i worry a great deal about what anoth another trump term could mean and that's why people simply have foovote. so v a plan and vote early. send it in the mail early. in person, get there as soon as you can. >> thank you for being with us,

former u.s. attorney general, eric holder. joining me now is former senator max backs and former the ambassador to china and radio talk show host, who also teaches constitutional law and is a political analyst. let me go to you first. do you not agree with mr. holder and me when we say this strikes of hypocrisy for the senate under mitch mcconnell at the recommendation of this president to act in any way different with this election year than they use the rationale of saying we couldn't moval forward on justice garland when it was nominated by president obama. >> good evening. thank you for having me. i don't agree. i believe it's the reed rule, which harry reed put into place, which is the majority rules in the senate. i do agree justice ginsburg was

a great american, she was very nice to me and i mourn her passing and salute her record. but the constitution's pretty clear the president has a unilateral right to nominate and the senate, a majority, confirm, if it chooses to. if there are 50 votes, then that individual will be confirmed. >> what happened to that right when president obama nominated garland? the same constitution would hold there. the president made a nomination and mcconnell would not let it go to the floor. >> because the constitution is very obvious. you have to have a majority in the senate. president obama did not have a majority in the senate when he nominated merrick garland. >> there was no vote taken? >> in 2013, they changed the rules, senator backs to a simple majority vote for nominee. and so, the time merrick garland

was nominated was not in favor of being confirmed. >> how do we know because you never took the vote? am i correct or not was there a vote? was garland moved forward and -- >> no. there was no majority. >> was there the same procedure in 2013? i'm sorry in the garland nomination that they're now clearly trying to move forward in an election year here? >> my view this is hypocrisy, there's no question about it. senator mcconnell is trying to split hairs saying back then the mdize were not majority. it's still the same issue. basically should a president be able to appoint a nominee to the supreme court and should the senate act upon that nominee? one thing i want to make very clear. i agree with attorney general holder and all the points he made. one thing that's really clear

here. fairness is the coin of our round in our country. however, i sometimes think that republicans like to win. they don't like the governor, at least not fairly. whereas democrats, my party, we love fairness, process, but we don't have quite the same instinct to win. so, if we want the right people on the court when the senate, we have to be a lot tougher and making sure we get those people. and once they are on the court, especially the senate, we have to be willing to twist arms, like lbj did. this is war. and mitch mcconnell is going to do all he can to get those votes to get conformation. he's going to do all he can to make sure there aren't four republicans that slip and vote against this nominee. it's war and we have to be prepared for that. >> what about that? we already have heard senator

collins say the supreme court of the united states decision should be made by the winner of the election. so, that's one down. if you have three more republicans that take that view, you cannot confirm the nominee of president trump no matter how blatantly hypocritical it is. and you have some senators in pennsylvania, north carolina, and other places that are in tight races that may well agree with collins and say no, let's wait until after the election to proceed. how would that, in your judgment, how would that politically impact them with the republicans in their states and view on touting the trump line? >> i'm hoping senator collins changes her mind. i believe it will be disastrous politically for someone to vote against a nominee or refuse to vote for the nominee the president sends up. i had to laugh when senator

backus said we don't play hardball. he voted to eliminate the filibuster. he voted to kill the 60-vote margin and now he's complaining about the 50-vote margin he installed to pack the d.c. circuit. so, that's inconsistent. i don't think it's hypocritical. he might have believed it in 2013 and obviously doesn't now in 2020. but i believe the president will nominate, lindsey graham will hold hearings and there will be a vote before thelection and i believe amy cony barrett or larsson will be our next supreme court justice. >> i have to break in here. but i will mark that as you ducked the question. you attacked senator baccus but didn't answer my question. here's what he told reporters moments ago. >> last night in minnesota. that was an incredible event. we have some very big news on

tiktok is moving along. we're dealing with oracle, which you know of. larry elson and we're dealing with, as a combination, walmart a great company, great american company. the security will be 100%. they'll be using separate clouds and a lot of very, very powerful security. and they'll be making about a $5 billion contribution towards education. we're going to be setting up a very large fund towards the education of american youth. that will be great. that's their contribution i've been asking for. but we'll see whether or not it all happens. conceptualy, i think it's a great deal for america. they'll be hiring at least 25,000 people. it will most likely be incorporated in texas. a brand new company. it will have nothing to do with

any outside land, any outside country. it willival nothing to do with china. it will be totally secure. that will be part of the deal and that will be both oracle, as you know, and walmart. and i think it's going to be a fantastic deal. the technology is superior to anybody in the world and we like that. and again, lot of jobs. a lot of money, a lot of money for our country. billions of dollars of taxes will be paid every year. and hundreds of millions of users and they'll be happy. so, everybody will be happy. it's a severance. it will continue to be named tiktok as it was all along and that's it. so, i can say that i have given the deal my blessing. if they get done, that's great. if they don't, thaltz okay too.

but it's a great deal for america and very interesting. >> you've approved the deal? >> i approved the deal in concept, yes. >> [ inaudible ]. >> we'll see what happens. we'll be talking to people soon. we have great respect for the process. this has happened numerous times and every time, there was a nominee, as you know. there's been many occasions where, frankly, it turned out to be during a presidential year. whatever it may be. but in all cases, they went forward. but we want to respect the process and the process will move. i think it's going to move quickly. bia gree with the statement by mitch mcconnell, 100%. i put out a very similar statement, you saw. so, i think we're going to start the process extremely soon. and we'll have a nominee very soon.

well, they're going to report the full scope of the deal very soon. but it will be totally controlled by oracle and walmart. all of the control is walmart and oracle, two great american companies and you have the combination of the walmart, that's obvious, and the high-tech oracle and the genius of the two leaders of those companies, okay. >> [ inaudible ]. >> who said that? >> senator collins. >> well, i totally disagree with her. we have an obligation. we won and we have an obligation, as the winners too, pick who we want. that's not the next president. hopefully i'll be the next president. but we're here now.

right now we're here and we have an obligation to the voters l of the people, the millions that put us here in the form of a victory. we have an obligation to them too, all of those voters and it's a very simple thing. i would disagree. that's not the way i read it. i read it differently. but if that's what she said, i totally disagree. i do. i have a short list. i've had a short list for a while. we added a number of people on to the list, the previous list. we have about 45 altogether. i do indeed have a short list. i've gotten to know many of them. i think it's probably, from a legal standpoint, from a sfis ka sfisicated undering of the law, i think it's the greatest list ever assembled and i think that the other side should show their radical left list and i think you'll be surprised.

>> well, she's very highly respecked. i can say that. >> need be a woman? >> i can see most likely it would be a woman. i think i can say that. it would be a woman. if somebody were to ask me now, i would say a woman would be in first place, yes. the choice of a woman i would say would certainly be apr appropriate. she's an extraordinary person. i don't know her. she's hispanic and highly respected, miami. highly respected. >> merrick garland. >> well, that's called the consequences of losing an election. he didn't have the votes. when you lose election,

sometimes things don't work out well. and i have to say this. judge garland is highly respected. i have a lot of respect for him, i do. i have lot of respect for him. but it's the consequences of an election. >> do you expect a vote before thelection or after? >> i don't know. we're working with all the republican senators and mitch mcconnell. and we'll be making a decision. i would think before would be very good. i think the process can go very fast. i'll be making my choice soon and when the choice is made, i'll be sending it over to mitch in the senate. and they will do what they have to do. i think we'll have a very popular choice, whoever it may be. but we'll be sending it over to the senate. i think the choice will be next week, yes, i do. okay? so, we'll see you, some of you in north carolina. okay? thank you very much.

>> let me bring in nbc news correspondent, who is at the white house. what did we hear from the president? >> i was out on the lawn with him. i think you heard the president making news as regards the supreme court pick, first saying he thinks the woman should be the number one choice. you heard reporters asking about two women's names who have been about. the first one is judge amy -- i'm screwing up her name. i'm running on pretty little sleep. she's a justice on the seventh circuit, was nominated to her current role by president trump and has been on the lips of a lot of folks around the white house as someone conservatives might like to see elevated to the court. he didn't commit to a timeline on nomination or a senate vote,

saying it would come soon, probably this week. he was asked twice, once by me and once by another reporter, whether he'd like to see that vote take place before election day. how quickly this could or from the republicans, how quickly it should be done. the president be noncommittal and say he's working with mitch mcconnell to figure how fast he could move this. and the question i think is on a lot of people's minds. why should your pick move forward when president obama's pick in an election year did not? his answer is confusing. he said that's the consequence of losing an election. >> what i'm confused about there. is president obama hadn't lost the election. the constitution says the president makes the nominee, not whether the president's party is

in the majority or not in the senate. >> reporter: it's always dangerous to parse the president's meaning. it's almost impossible to ask follow-up questions with the wine of the helicopter behind you. i think he was referring to hillary clinton. the idea being if clinton had won, democrats would have been able get their choice on the supreme court but since they didn't, any pick he makes are valid, not just the first two. one in the role that merrick garland would have taken and now, significantly, substantially closer to an election day than the garland pick was when president obama made it back in 2016. >> all right. thank you for being with us. i don't want to forget former senator max backs. more on the life and impact of late justice ruth bader ginsburg. and first, my colleague with today's top news stories.

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she spoke, not eloquently, but with unmistakable clarity. she said i ask no favor for my sex. all i ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks. >> and that was ruth bader ginsburg back in 1973. for our opressers to get their feet or their knees off our necks has echoes from the founding of the country through the fight for abolition.

the civil rights movements, the liberation movement, the women's liberation movement and the lgbtq movement and it continues today, even as i, myself, look to lincoln memorial to protest peacefully for the lives and liberties of black americans at the commitment march on washington, just three weeks ago. justice ruth bader ginsburg was a lifetime crusader in that fight for the advancement of the rights of women and the protection of voter rights for all. as chief justice john roberts put it last night ginsburg was, quote, a tireless and resolute champi champion of justice. joining me cofounder of scotus blog and executive director of the national lawyer's committee for civil rights under the law. you're part of the commitment march with martin king and i.

what is the legacy to you as one that is a champion in legal and civil rights? what is the legacy of ruth bader ginsburg? >> her legacy is one that will be enduring. every generation seeks for that jurist on the supreme court who will help do work to push to insure that our constitution is inclusive, inclusive of all people. thurgood marshal was that jurist who pushed to make sure it was an inclusival one, when it comes to the rights of black people and no doubt, no doubt, ruth bader ginsburg was that juris who did that worken the court to fight gender injustice, fight jenlder discrimination and to insure that women were fully inclusive in the promise and

values that an mate our constitution. i want to just acknowledge the loss and mourning that so many e people around the country are feeling. it's shameful there is this race to talk about filling her seat. less than 24 hours after the nation has learned about this terrible loss. >> amy, it would seem to me as it is raised by christian, that even as a senator mcconnell released a statement of condolences, he added and we will vote for this president. it was like within hours they had already started this stepping over memorializing her to signaling what they're going to do with her seat in as we just heard less than 24 hours later. the president is saying i'm going to put opnomination next week and we have not even gone

through the mourning phase, the family mourning, the memorial services. how is that being dealt with by those in the court and the supreme court community? >> i think the politics is moving on but i think that people are, as kristen suggested, are definitely still mourning, unlike any other justices i can remember. my phone has been -- i'm sure kristen and everyone's has been blowing up for the last 20 or so hours with people. if she had been an icon and she'd had so many health issues in the last couple of years and yet, we were all still astonished because she was this tiny woman who kept soldiers on despite multiple bouts with cancer and broken ribs. i think there's still a real

sense of shock she's gone. >> i'm out of time but i need ask you. is it not the constitutional premise that a sitting president nominate as supreme court justice and the senate votes to confirm -- not confirm and it is not based on the who has the majority of the senate by which party. has nothing to do with an election of the senate. it has something to do with the elected president and barack obama was the president that nominated garland and the senate would not take up that nomination. am i misquoting or misunderstanding something here? >> what happened in 2016 was disgraceful. but this moment is different. there is an election well underway and americans across our country are going out and voting right now. they're voting by absentee ballot, voting early in person. voters in senator mitch

mcconnell's state right now can request absentee ballots and may have turned them in. we are telling americans across our country who are participating in an active election, that their voices don't matter. this vacancy should not be filled now. >> loright. thank you for being with us. moving on. millions of students are headed back for what is a unique school year. but while the attention has been on the coronavirus, many black and brown students have concerns beyond face masks and remote learning. my next guest created a public space to address the fight of the systemic and derooted racism she encountered at her high school. sky jackson joins me now. she's the granddaughter of revere reverend jesse jackson. i want to start by asking you, of a younger generation than

mine about why so many young people were inspired and many young women of your generation, by justice ginsburg, even calling her by the notorious rbg? what do you think made her so attractive to your generation? >> first of all, i'm deeply saddened she passed away today. she's been one of my icons for so long and i wish i'd gotten the chance to meet her. i just really think, as a liberal, she really did a lot and especially as a female to be the second female justice that we've had in the united states. and she has committed to fight for gender equality and social justice reforms and so many things that so many people don't fight for. so, i think that's why we really

appreciate her. >> now, tell us about your fight you have taken on this fight against racism and boarding schools, something you've discovered. you've got some of your colleagues and people involved in this and a big instagram forum ontop >> so, school inclusion and the issues of desegregation have been around for 70 years. and it's still continuing on since brown verses board of education. and as a students who prides myself being a student leader and who only wants to improve the education system, i decided to start and start a page in a space where we can really try to create a place where stud. and faculty members and black members of the school communities can be uncensured and so that we're not anymore in

these confined areas. >> all right. well, we're going to monitor and watch it. i watched some of the tape of what you're doing in some nof press and we're going to be watching you and seeing you have activism in your blood. as you know your grandfather was one of my mentors. he's a hard task master and there's one harder than him. that's the hidden jackson in the family. thank you for being with us. tomorrow on "politics nation" an interview you don't want to miss. the president's long-time fixer and author of the new book "dish loyal" issent pulling -- isn't pulling any punches about what's at stake. >> the power that he now has, has gone to his head. he wants to be the president of this country for life. he wants to be just like putin, just like kim jong-un, just like

maduro, he craves this. he doesn't want to run for president and that's why he says what about 12 more years? he's not joking. understand, donald trump doesn't have a sense of humor. he doesn't laugh or tell jokes. humor. he means it when he says it. >> i'll talk with michael cohen about the president's autocratic ambitions and much more tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern right here on "politicsnation." up next, more on the legacy of the late justice ruth bader ginsburg and my final thoughts. 11 days on the open seas, and still no sign of the world's mightiest predator. so we're attempting to coerce a visit... with devour white cheddar mac and cheese with bacon. oh that looks good. ahhhhhhh

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that does it for me. thanks for watching. to the now late justice ruth bader ginsburg, thank you for your life's work. rest in power. and i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. i'll be joined by former trump attorney michael cohen to talk about his new book about trump's real view on race and what's trump capable of doing if he loses the election. up next, my colleague alicia menendez picks up our news coverage. alicia, congratulations on your new show, two hours right here following "politicsnation" every weekend. >> rev, what an honor. thank you so much. we're going to be watching the president tonight in north carolina.

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