series, we are 44 days away from what many called the most consequential election of our lifetime. we are talking to you the american voter in some of the kilo cases that will determine who will be the next president of the united states. before you do that, a quick check on the headlines. the nation continues the mourn the loss of an american icon, flags fly at half justice in memory of ruth bader ginsburg. she passed away on friday from complications of pan creatic cancer. the life's work and contributions continue to be honored. the passing triggered a massive political debate on a timing of appointing her replacement. mitch mcconnell announcing the plans to vote to fill her spotted on the high court leaving no room for humanity in this world of politics. her successor somebody key in determining the future of everything from health care to

abortion to the legal status of hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have known no other home than america. >> we'll be making a decision. i think the process can go very, have fast. 'll be making my choice soon and when the choice is made i'll be sending it over to mitch in the senate and they will do what they have to do. i think we'll have a very popular choice, whoever it may be. but we'll be sending it over to the senate. i think the choice will be next week, yes, i do. >> one life or death issue that's at stake here, the health insurance of millions of americans. the trump administration in a coalition of republican-led states are trying to get the affordable care act repealed. the supreme court set to hear the challenge to the law in november just after the election. if the aca, the affordable care okay, obamacare, is overturned more than 20 million americans could lose their health

insurance and those with preexisting conditions would no longer be protected from being dropped by the insurance. my colleague msnbc spoke last night with a woman who knows what it's like to live in fear of losing health care coverage when they need it most and the dangers that might lie ahead. >> i'm a stage 4 cancer survivor and the affordable care act saved my life. while i was going through treatments in 2017 every day there's renewed attacks on the aca from congress and trump and now it looks like there's a possibility that they'll have the votes that they needed to destroy it altogether. this weekend we marked another tragic milestone with the coronavirus pandemic which continues to ravage in country. yesterday the quite surpassing 200,000 deaths due to coronavirus.

the total now standing at 200,497. the number of infected individuals nationally is close to 6.8 million people. add to growing pandemic fears, the risk of losing health coverage and it is a perfect health care storm for many americans stuck in the past of the disastrous leadership of donald trump. joining me is kathleen sebelius. she is also the former democratic governor of kansas. good to see you. thank you for being with us. there were a lot of americans who knew this was contentious and going before the supreme court and a sense that the same justice, composition of justices would do so this time. all of that has now changed. how do you see this playing in the supreme court? >> i think it's a terrifying

prospect that, first of all, trump, the president, would try to rush a nomination and press the senate, many of whom who are on record already saying this is inappropriate, to try and fill a position when this case is pending. the loss of ruth bader ginsburg will be mourned for decades. she was a unique individual. any of us who have made some success in our lives as women in america owe a huge debt of gratitude to justice ginsburg but the entire affordable care act is at stake. the justice department and these republican attorney generals want to strike down the whole thing, the preexisting condition, millions of americans would lose their coverage and all kinds of aspects of medicare payments, drug costs, kids

staying on their plans until they're 26, would disappear across this country. and it would be enormously devastating for every state and millions and millions of constituents. >> i think i just want to make it clear here. these are republican attorneys general who are suing the federal government about. obamacare. the federal government defends itself. in this world, the trump administration joined the lawsuit essentially against a federal government policy. >> well, it is totally unprecedented. the justice department in the kind of 11th hour flipped sides, not only decided not to defend the case but joined the most i would say drastic part of the case saying not only should the individual mandate which is already repealed by congress, should that be found unconstitutional, but the entire law should be struck down and

they also made clear that people should just ignore the fact that covid is now raging. as you said, we just had 200,000 deaths announced, we crossed that horrible threshold and the arguments before the supreme court say pay no attention to the fact we're in a pandemic, doesn't matter that people lose health care and entirely disrupt our entire health system in the quite. just strike down the law and the justice department rather than defending a decade-old law and should be the case of the united states government, they have said we're joining the plaintiffs in saying that the law should disappear entirely. >> yeah. i remind people about the 2016 election. republicans ran ads saying that they would protect preexisting conditions, coverage of

preexisting conditions when there are votes on the record and video knowing them vote against it. last week the president said i have a better plan, a replacement. they have been lying about this for three and a half years about repeal and replace. there was never, ever a replacement to obamacare. >> you're being very kind to republicans, ali. it's not lying for three and a half years but since president obama signed the bill in 2010. there's been a relentless attack, the first lawsuit was filed the day he signed the bill, litigation after litigation, attempts at regulation that would destroy parts of the act as recently as 2017 a failed legislative effort and now a supreme court case ten years later saying strike down the law and still the republicans have not come up with a replacement plan and president trump's secret plan i guess will remain secret.

>> let's -- yeah. i'll be the first to know if there's something in that thing but i look deep and far and wide for a replacement to obamacare. they said replace. repeal and replace. there's been no replacement. good to see you as always. thank you. former health and human services secretary under president obama. president trump can appoint a third conservative judge to his supreme court. is that enough to bring the so-called never trump republicans back into the fold at least until the election? in a few moments you will see my wide ranging interview with a group of voters here in kenosha, wisconsin. i asked each of them what advice they would give the next president whomever that is on how to bring this country together that is so divided. here's democrat chris cox. >> i'd invite you to love every one of us americans as much as you love the most important person in your life, that if you

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as we mark the passing of supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg, president trump said just yesterday that he has plans to nominate a female judge to replace her next week. rumored at the top of the trump list is judge amy coney barrett, a conservative firebrand who clerked for late supreme court justice scalia and sits on the united states court of appeals for the 7th circuit. the prospect of nominating another judge is something that has a number of democrats very concerned. we are back in wisconsin where covid-19 cases have been on the rise over the past two weeks, particularly driven by young people in schools. on thursday the state department of health services reported 2,034 new cases for a positivity rate of nearly 18% of those tested. this comes as the latest polls in wisconsin which is considered a key battle ground state in the race for the ove office showed

joe biden leading donald trump. trump won wisconsin over hillary clinton back in 2016 by less than one percentage point. of particular concern for trump is the handling of the jacob blake police involved shooting. blake, a 29-year-old black man was shot seven times in the back by a police officer at close range on august 23rd which set off weeks of protests and calls for justice by members of the local community. amid the protest and unrest, an illinois teenager was charged with homicide in connection with the shooting deaths of two demonstrators. as for blake according to his family he is paralyzed by the injuries sustained by police. he recently spoke. >> it's pain, normal pain. hurts to breathe. hurts to sleep. it hurts to eat.

please, i'm telling you, change our lives out there. we can stick together. may recollect some money, make everything easier for our people out here, man, because it's so much time that's been wasted. >> the jacob blake shooting was a moment of reckoning and unrest that offered president trump the chance to step up as a leader who represents all of the american people, to not take sides, to visit the city to bring a steady voice to calm the sides. he opted for his traditional ta tactics of inflaming tensions. "time" writing in the aftermath trump visited the city to pose in front of burned build, denournsing the anti-police and anti-americans riots quote but the true audience not necessarily the people of kenosha. it was white suburban voters who could make or break his chances at re-election. joining me is representative

gwen moore and we had too much occasion to talk lately. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. before we talk about wisconsin where we are together today, i want to talk about ruth bader ginsburg and her passing and the speed with which the republican senate has decided that it will nominate a new justice to the supreme court. the same senate that cannot move on a new package to help americans suffering from coronavirus. this disease continues to ravage americans, 200,000 dead, the disease is on the rise here in wisconsin but the senate won't move on that. >> well, thanks for having me today and i tell you, we have really lost a giant on the supreme court. and you know, as we would say, before the body is cold they are

thinking of cold ways to impose on the american people another jurist. their nominee as i have done my just short research, the front-runner is someone who is in sync with donald trump on cagings of children, on onerous restrictions on a women's right to choose, and we can be assured that if this nomination were to go through it would throw the country back 60 years in an entire generation and for the rest of my lifetime. and but we have a lot of options and there's a lot of hope i think but yeah. before the body was cold they, you know, almost simultaneously, mitch mcconnell was announcing that he was going to vote on

trump's nominee for the supreme court in the same breath as saying, yeah, you know, we are going to miss her. she was a great woman and we'll replace her with someone that's the complete opposite of her juris prudence. >> there's going to be changes and talk about that later. >> gay marriage. >> something that i -- yeah. and i want to talk about the affordable care act. you tweeted as i watched the other night september 16th, trump promised to unveil a plan to be much better than the affordable care act but supporting a lawsuit against the aca and providing no real alternative. none at all. people kicked off the health care in this state where we are suffering an increase in coronavirus right now.

congresswoman, people believe the president, they believe he has a better plan, a replacement for obamacare and she's shown us nothing. >> that's what happens when you have the bully pulpit. he is able to create news every single moment. and to confuse people. i just would remind people of the young woman who spoke at the democratic convention who said that her father's only prexesing condition was believing donald trump. you know, i would remind people that here we are you are jerurg waiting on a vaccine and the president lied so much that it is difficult to trust with a life saving vaccine might come out that we would take it. this is very, very dangerous terrain for us. i'm glad that you're visiting wisconsin and really sort of

experiencing the true culture of wisconsin. i can guarantee you, ali, the next -- the civil war in the united states is not going to start in kenosha, wisconsin. this is a place -- >> correct. >> this is a place that's trying to heal and reconcile. you heard word of reconciliation from a victim, jacob blake, who the president hasn't even managed to wish him well or be glad that he's alive. this is a place where runaway slaves were welcomed. this is not the site of the next civil war and ten points ahead joe biden is and one reason who's going to save us. tufts university did a study and determined that the biggest cohort of 18 to 29-year-olds that were going to have the biggest impact of the outcome of

the presidential election all analysis done in terms of battleground states and population and wisconsin came out number one. so our -- when you saw the blue wave in 2018, there was a dropoff in 2016. >> yep. >> but 2018, those gen-z're's joined the millennials and they'll bring wisconsin home for joe biden. >> it is good to -- it is good to be in your home state of wisconsin. thank you for your great support of our show. not only will the civil war not start in wisconsin but the people of wisconsin they do want a more perfect union. democratic congresswoman moore of wisconsin, thank you very being with us understand again.

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when we lost ruth bader ginsburg on friday we didn't just lose a legal feminist and cultural hero, we lost a true fighter. the late justice fought to make the united states a better place and while she may have stood only 5 feet tall she stood her ground, especially for women and wim women's rights, the second woman to sit on the supreme court bench and ensured that she was not the last. >> women are here to stay. when i'm sometimes asked when will there be enough and i say when there are nine. >> joining me is attorney general of colorado, phil wiser and clerked for justice ginsburg in the 1996 term and only one to become an attorney general. good morning, attorney general. good to see you. i understand you might have been the last person to argue a case in front of ruth bader ginsburg.

>> that is correct. it is chilling for me because i was arguing in the pandemic right before they said sign or die, the end of the term, thus justice ginsburg got to hear me argue in the last case she heard and that's something i will treasure. >> let's talk about her on the court. when you worked for her in her clerkship, the court ishszed a decision called roamer versus evans and the united states versus virginia, both of which which were remarkably influential. >> the virginia military institute never let women in to become cadets. their view was that women were not cut out for fighting, an antiquated view they held on to. the federal case built on her prior arguments. she argued in the 1970s that women need to be treated equally to men and when she was sitting

in her just second term she was able to write this opinion that stands as a landmark that women deserve to be treated equally and those that watched the documentary when vmi invited her back to talk about the decision that they've now embraced and in romer versus evans is a case out of colorado with an amendment 2 that said local governments could not fashion civil rights protections to protect people based on sexual operatation and colorado is called the hate state in 1980s and now elected the first openly gay man as governor anywhere in the u.s. and the supreme court overturned the amendment. the first major decision to provide rights for lgbtq americans and also a landmark built on and so i had a front row seat to watch a pioneer, a true leader and trail blazer for

women's rights for equality, for justice in two amazing cases. >> there may be something that's as important about that. yesterday i spoke with a panel of colorado voters with very different political views and many didn't share her views but you talk about the willingness to learn from an opposing view point is a quality in short supply today. she didn't just talk the talk on that one. she had close friends and confidants and people from whom she learned and debated with that didn't share her political views at all. >> when she was apointed, people skrit sized her for the friendships with more conservative jurists and what i've learned from her, a value i treasure, engagement, dialogue, leads to better decisions. she said that when she got justice scalia's dissernt it

ruined her weekend and said listening to the arguments, thinking about them sharpened her own thinking and i've taught here in colorado some with people with different view points to sharpen my thinking. we can't be afraid of different view points. we need to listen and engage with them and be in this together. she very much embodied that spirit and that's what the supreme court is at its best. >> that is what we're trying to do with this trip across america to talk to voters. i'm going to go to pueblo, colorado, i believe there's a chili fest under way and no greater way to encourage dialogue amongst people than over food. phil, good to see you. thank you for your remembrances of ruth bader ginsburg. phil is the attorney general of colorado and a former law clerk for ruth bader ginsburg. the prospect of donald trump

nominating a third conservative judge to the already ideologically lopsided bench energizes the conservative but begs the question, will the so-called never trumpers, the people -- the conservatives that want to get rid of trump, reverse their efforts for this, a chance to influence the character of the most important court for the ages? joining me now rick tyler, a msnbc political analyst, author of "still right." so i put it to you, my old friend, do the never trumpers say we don't like trump but another seat on the supreme court, that is too much to give up? >> good morning, ali. look. i write in my book about the court and the appointment of judges and many times it's just

very much overblown so the next few weeks we'll hear how trump's nominee is a terrible person, the devil and hear the opposite from the other case and that's been the case but look. the court -- let me take barack obama's example. he nominated merrick garland who didn't get a hearing. it is fiction that the republicans made up in 2016 because they didn't want to give merrick a fair hearing. in fact, we have many cases where judges, justices were both apointed, nominated and confirmed in election years like william taft in 1912, woodrow wilson nominated two judges in 1916. >> i haven't had hair since that's happened. that's ancient history. >> ronald reagan apointed in 1988, an election year, anthony

kennedy. so that's just the fiction. now we're here and republicans want to say they didn't believe what they said in 2016 and that is just rank hypocrisy but the truth is, ali, that merrick garland and neil gorsuch also on the d.c. circuit court and not a dime's worth of ideological difference between them. i'll pick up on the attorney general's point in the last segment. the court, look at the court and the behavior of the court itself particularly ruth bader ginsburg who was friends with everyone on the court and while they had arguments, reasoning for disagreeing they remained friends and look at the congress, look what's happened to the american people, can't be friends, the president to represent red states and not blue states. the american people ought to

model themself after the supreme court and we can have vigorous, intellectual disagreements about issues but we have to remain americans. >> you have to fight back against the nonsense you current be friends. i'll get twitter messages but who cares? >> right. >> you know never trumper republicans who think that donald trump is one of those damaging things to american democracy in a long time. do you believe they will all stick to the never trump message given this new opportunity to potentially -- not likely to happen -- but appoint the supreme court judge before the election? >> in states like where you are now, wisconsin, joe biden has a lead, but they're divided and so you will have people on the left who are going to be motivated to deny trump or he may get this justice by the way but upset

about it and mobilized to say we'll get the next one to get the senate and joe biden as president. and by the same token, the conservatives or the republicans on the other side will maybe mobilize but ooempb even its ou because those motivated by justices are singularly focused on the supreme court. when you've lost your job and you have -- are dealing with covid or someone in your family is dealing with covid getting a supreme court justice falls away on the list so i think people are still motivated on how's the economy going? do i have a job? will we get rid of the pandemic? guess what. supreme court justice is not going to do that for us. >> rick, good to see you, as always, my friend. author of "still right."

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today we are hitting the second stop on the velshi across america 2020 tour. i'm traveling to a different battle ground state every sunday leading up to election day to speak with voters in each state to understand how they're voting in this pivotal election and why. today obviously i'm in kenosha, wisconsin. until 2016, wisconsin had not gone for a republican president since ronald reagan. right now averages of recenter polling show joe biden with a sizable lead here but if 2016 taught us anything it's that you karnt entirely rely on the polls. yesterday i held a socially distant conversation in ken she's civic center park with six voters. two registered democrats, two independents and two republicans. in an hour-long conversation that covered a variety of topics, they told me which candidates they support and why but first i had to address the elephant in the room sort to speak.

take a look. a few issues to talk about because they're topical right now but i want to start with one that's interesting. some folks wearing masks and some folks are not. i want to understand that a little bit. tell me about your decision, holly. >> to not wear a mask? >> yeah. >> well, we're six feet apart. so we've got that going for us. and i just want to make sure you can understand what i'm saying. >> fair enough. thank you. joe? >> kind of i want to make sure that you could hear me better, everyone can hear me but i wear masks inside a store, whatever, you know? i respect other people's feelings and thoughts on everything but outside i haven't -- unless i 'm in a city they tell me to i don't wear a mask outside. >> tell me why you're not wearing a mask.

>> i do, too, wear a mask inside stores or anyplace close. we are outside. it's sunny, beautiful. we are six feet apart. i like -- i respect anybody else's right for what they want to do and also i just find especially sitting out for a long time it's uncomfortable for me to breathe through. >> i appreciate that. okay. thank you very much for that. i'll start with you, holly. >> okay. >> who are you voting for for president? >> president trump. >> tell me why. >> he is the best thing for our country. the economy-wise, high schoe ist person to keep us on track, he's for people to be profitable and make money for their families. he is against abortion. he is for children. children are our future. if we don't have children we don't have a future. chris? >> voting for joe biden. >> tell me a bit about that.

>> yeah. at the center of who i am as principally my faith and also a real search for trying to build a more just world, and when i look at the candidates that we have got, on the one hand on the question of character, if i'm looking and trying to see if you will the power of friendship in somebody's life and the strength of love, when i look at the relationship that vice president biden has with his son beau, the grief that's there, the grief that he's shown for his first wife, for his daughter, the way that he's protected his son hunter even in the midst of what is not necessarily the politically easiest route and when i look at like his relationship with folks who work for amtrak and so many other folks you see the strength of friendship. that strength of character is important to me. >> i decided to vote for

president trump for many reasons. as a christian and a woman of faith, i cannot support a party that would let a baby be nine months. i'm a premature baby at six months. i'm a human. i look at the science behind that and abortion. i just see that trump is going to help me in my future with lower taxes, less government, more freedom, children going to be protected, school of choice. border security. stronger military. and, you know, pro america. god bless our country. >> i'm voting for biden. i'm voting for biden because we need to make sure that everybody in this country has access to affordable health care. it makes no sense to be in one of the richest countries in the world but to have huge populations of pooh 'em that can't get treatment for who would be considered basic things.

i'm also voting for biden because we need to address the crisis at the border. kids need to come out of cages. every time i hear stories about how people are treated when they come over the border trying to escape disasters going on in their country, we are a country of immigrants so to all of a sudden decide we don't want to accept immigrants i can't behind that. biden recognizes that we have a racial problem in this country. trump refuses to denounce white supremacy and the acts of white supremacists in this country and as a black woman i want to walk around this country and have equal access to opportunities as the white sit concerns beside me. biden acknowledges that that is a problem. finally, the coronavirus. to have a president who knew how dangerous this disease was and

instead lied to the american people and did not take steps to save people in our country, that person should not be in charge of -- how can we ever expect that he'll keep us safe now that we know that that was a bla pare about the lie? >> thank you. >> going to vote for donald trump. i wasn't sure, the last election if i was going to or not. i started seeing the both republicans and democrats not wanting him in there and i wasn't really sure why. and i still don't really know but i kind of have my opinion now. as someone from generation x i woernt s won't say that we were the first group to see that both sides are corrupt and playing a game. but i think collectively as a whole that the majority of us can see that. i like the wall. i like, you know, our border

security. the jobs before the covid thing hit, our unemployment, the minority unemployment was as high as it's ever been. >> as low as it's ever been. >> that's what i meant. i'm sorry. >> nicole? >> i'm voting for joe biden and i made that decision after the start of the pandemic, after the way that the pandemic was initially handled. i just don't understand why president trump can't encourage people to wear masks. not mandate or order but it's -- i just don't understand why he won't encourage or suggest that they wear masks because i think a lot of his followers are cult-like followers. they will do whatever he says and if he says it's okay to wear a mask they will and i would think that would have stopped a large amount of the spread and that's what started my

reasoning. but then secondly, once this -- all of this unrest and uprise started and the fact he won't acknowledge systemic racism exists i think is encouraging other local elected officials to feel like it's okay for them to say it, too. he is empowering them to let their racist flags fly where before it was you had to be politically correct or, you know, so i think that his influence and the way he handled the corona pandemic won't allow me to vote for him. >> thank you. >> where previously i probably would have. >> thank you for that. >> of course, we ended that conversation touching on racism. coming up, kenosha became a flashpoint for racial unrest after the police involved shooting of yeah cob blake. how wisconsin voters feel about

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i can see most likely it will be a woman. i'll be making my choice soon, when my choice is made, i'll send it over to mitch in the senate and they'll do whatever they have to do. i think we'll have a popular choice, whoever it may be. i think the choice will be next week. yes, i do. >> all right. the passing of justice ruth bader ginsburg has no doubt complicated the next 44 days until the election, in a year that's already marked by turmoil, racial tension, a pandemic, a recession, and an election. we can add a likely tough battle between senate democrats, republicans, and the president for the supreme court seat. joining me now itto discuss tha probable senate battle is

senator mazie hirono of hawaii. aloha, senator. >> aloha, good morning. >> let's talk about what you are expecting to happen right now. first of all, the developments, that right after the passing of ruth bader ginsburg, you heard mitch mcconnell say, really before he was passing condolences, the idea that there is going to be a vote on donald trump's nominee. he didn't specify before the election but a number of your republican colleagues had said they'll vote for the nominee and they'll just as happily too it before the election. only a small handful have said they might want to hold off until after the election. how is this going to go down? >> well, mitch mcconnell has done a 360 with what he said regarding merrick garland. mitch mcconnell is a person who can't be trusted. he's counting on the rest of the republicans. there are at least eight republicans in 2016 who said we shouldn't be considering a nominee during an election year. and they're all turning, you know, around too.

so he's counting on his colleagues to back him up to steal yet another supreme court seat. that's what's happening. >> what is your best outcome of how this gets treated? >> the best outcome is to honor what justice ginsburg said, that there should not be anyone to replace her until a new president is sworn in. that's what should happen. so what's going to happen is whoever president trump appoints, nominates, will be somebody who will strike down the affordable care act. we are in the midst of a pandemic. millions of people already don't have health care. the supreme court is going to hear the affordable care act case in november. whoever trump dominates will be somebody who will strike down the affordable care act and that means millions of people will no longer have health insurance. there will be no protections for people with preexisting conditions. there will be no health care for

young people under 26 years of age who can be on their parents' health care. it will be disaster. but that is where they want their next nominee to be. that's why they want to rush a person through. >> as of now, the hearing on that case or the decision is expected shortly after the election. >> yes. >> you have a number of your republican colleagues who either have expressed some concern about this timing or may express concern. susan collins and lisa murkowski have both already said so. we're wait to go hear from mitt romney. cory gardner, who is in a tough election campaign, lamar alexander who isn't and might be able to exercise his conscience on this one, pat roberts. you really need two more of these members to decide we're not going to rush this, we're going to do it after the election, even at risk of there not being a senate majority for

republicans. >> there is going to be a lot of urging of the republicans to follow their conscience. and we haven't seen too much of that lately. but that is our hope. and that's the best thing that could happen, that four republicans would say -- not only that they don't want to deal with a nominee before the election but also after the election, because there is the lame duck session. and so if they try to force somebody through the lame duck session, that is just as bad as trying to get somebody through before the election. so that's not enough for them, i know susan collins had said before the election. well, there's a lot of time before the new president is sworn in. and so we need to have four courageous republicans who want to do the right thing. but at the same time it is really important for the democrats to tell me the american people what's at stake. what is at stake is their health care. what is at stake is the next supreme court nominee will be, one, against the affordable care

act, will be against a woman's right to choose. this is a person who will be voting for abortion restrictions, who will not protect voting rights, who will not provide equal protection and equal rights for everyone which is what ruth bader ginsburg fought for her entire time on the supreme court. >> senator, thank you very much this morning. democratic senator mac mazie hi, aloha. >> aloha. "velshi across america" continues after this break. a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin, i'm on top of that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both.

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good morning. it is sunday, september 20. we are 44 days out from election day. i'm ali velshi live in kenosha, wisconsin, the second stop of our special sunday series, "velshi across america 2020." i will be on the road every weekend, coming to you live from battleground states across the country. we begin with a brand-new "wall street journal"/nbc news poll showing joe biden leading president trump 8 points in a head to head matchup as the race for the oval office kicks into high gear. both candidates are out on the campaign trail trying to convey their message t