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good day from msnbc headquarters here in new york. welcome to weekends with alex witt. we have a lot of developments for you. and we begin with the breaking news from capitol hill. a second republican senator saying just this last hour she opposes taking up a supreme court nominee before the election. let's go to my colleague leigh ann caldwell on capitol hill with the latest on this. welcome to you, let's get some names for you and key senators we're still waiting to hear from. >> so it is senator lisa murkowski is the second senator to say that the senate should not vote on a new nominee by this president before election day. she's a fiercely independent republican from alaska. and she's the second senator to buck her party and the majority leader who mitch mcconnell asked
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members to keep their powder dry for the time being if they don't think a vote should move forward. but in a statement here is what senator murkowski said. she said that she did not support taking up a nominee eight months before the 2016 election to fill the vacancy created by justice is scalia, we are now even closer to the 2020 election, less than two months out and i believe the same standards must apply. and so she joined susan collins of maine who came out yesterday and also said that the person who wins the election on november 3rd should decide who the next nominee is. but what is clear, alex, is that it is two republicans. they need at least four for this process to stop from moving forward. there is 53 republicans in the senate and they need four to block anything from going forward. so what is also clear is that the battle lines are completely drawn.
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we heard from republicans and democrats on the the sunday shows this morning outlining their arguments. let's take a listen to senator amy klobuchar followed by ted cruz and how they outlined it. let's watch. >> everything is on the line here. health care is on the line. i think my republican colleagues are the one, they have to decide based on what they said before, they set this new precedent in the last, in 2016, and they've got to follow their own words. >> we need a full court on election day given the very high likelihood that we're going to see litigation that goes to the court. we need a supreme court that could give a definitive answer for the country. >> reporter: so you saw the differences in how they are playing out their arguments. the democrats are going to try to use republican words against them from when they refused to entertain president obama's nominee in 2016. now senator ted cruz said there needs to be a full court on election day.
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well in 2016 there was not a full court on election day back then. now, there is -- could they even with the timing get a nominee done before election day? well, most recently nominees have taken about 60, 70 or more days to get confirmed from the time that they were nominated. well there is only 44 days until election day. so if mitch mcconnell can get that through, it is going to be a very high task. it is unclear at this point if he's able to do it. but it sounds like he's going to try, alex. >> i'm keeping an eye on alexander and roberts, both of whom are retiringch these are two that are institutionalists when it comes to the senate, both because of the timing in an election year voting against merrick garland. so i think there is a lot of scrutiny. they don't have anything to lose
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politically, right. >> those are two we're watching and watching mit rt romney who s bucked the president and others in tough re-elections too. they need four. could they get there? we'll be watching. >> thank you. right now joe biden is on the way to philadelphia pd and set to speak there in less than an hour. mike mem olie is in philadelphia for us. welcome to you. what do we expect to hear from the former vice president. >> reporter: well we've been talking about this presidential race for two years now talking about joe biden as the democratic nominee for months now. nothing like a supreme court vacancy to shake up this presidential race with just a few weeks left. we'll hear the former vice president this afternoon in the heart of a battleground state here in pennsylvania making his case for why he sees this vacancy as critical. because of the issue you were just talking about with leigh
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ann, on the ballot with the supreme court, the biden campaign argument is much of what we heard from the former vice president when he was campaigning in the midterm elections with swing district democrats who ended up winning races and putting democrats in the majority. the message two years ago was we need a democratic house to protect against the trump administration efforts to undercut the affordable care act and now it is you need a democrat in the white house who could appoint justices to stand up and defend the affordable care act. this is a winning message then and they believe now. and now joe biden is not a stranger to the supreme court battles. he was on the judiciary committee for 36 years and the chairman of that committee for eight years, the top democrat beyond that. and he was a key advise tore president obama as he named three potential nominees, only two of them confirmed. so this is terrain that the former vice president is very comfortable fighting the campaign on. now he doesn't control the strategy on the hill in terms of what democrats could do to block
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a vote either before or just after the election, but he's going to do everything he can and take the message on the campaign trail this week, alex. he's leaving philadelphia today and will be in wisconsin tomorrow and obviously a state that a lot of attention on and then his running mate, kamala harris, she'll have a key role and traveling to michigan on tuesday, alex. >> already a big day for the former vice president. he was already at church i understand at 7:30 a.m. this morning so he's been up and adam for a while and we'll look forward to an hour as well. you'll be there as well. thank you, mike. and both senators on both sides of the aisle making their cases of whether a nominee for president trump should be considered. >> when i came to the senate, it was understand senators kept their word. lindsey graham gave a solemn word there would not be any movement on a supreme court nominee this close to the election. i am sorry to see him breaking his word. i hope he'll think about that
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and go back and keep his word. >> if the shoe were on the other foot, and the democrats had the white house and the senate, they would right now be trying to confirm another member of the supreme court. >> you don't know that. >> what they're proposing is completely consistent, completely consistent with the precedent. >> now to the campaign trail with 44 days into the election. president trump telling supporters in north carolina he intends to name a replacement as early as this week. >> i will be putting forth a nominee next week. it will be a woman. >> meantime as biden heads to philadelphia, he picked up a major endorsement from the detroit free press. as a nbc wuls journal report shows it is unchanged after a tumu tumultuous month and 11% are
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still up for grabs. let's dig into the numbers with nbc's josh lederman at the white house with us. biden leading among different demographics. walk you tlus through the numbe. >> reporter: the good news is the numbers nationally, when you look at overall top lines, as you mentioned seem to be unchanged. that biden lead seems to be helding steady closer to the election. even with all of the tumult of the last several months. but when you break down the numbers deeper, you start to see where some of those strengths are and particularly where some of trump's problems are and they tend to be with the same type of voters he had problem with years ago. and with black voters, you see massive advantage for joe biden. 90% of black voters prefer him over president trump. similarly with women. you see biden with a 20-point spread, 57% of women saying they prefer the former vice president
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over president trump. biden also holding an advantage when it comes to the critical independent voters, that every campaign is always going so hard after. biden with a six-point advantage currently over trump when it comes to independents. and when you look at white voters with college degrees and you see biden leading 54% to 41%. and there are strengths for president trump that we're picking up in the poll. and they tend to be with that core base, that really supported his candidacy and sent him to the white house last time. if you look at all white voters in the u.s. in the new follow, you see trump leading with that group 52% to 43% for joe biden. similar to the edge that we saw president had with white voters in 2016. similarly with men, the president leading with five points over joe biden. and then you look at white voters who don't have college degrees, again a key trump
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constituency and a sizable lead there, more than a 20 point advantage over joe biden. and then when you break this down by age, alex, you start to see joe biden with support at the low eer and highest end of e age spectrum. so the vice president leading with younger voters ages 18 to 34 by 60 points to only 31 for president trump. and then when you look at senior citizens, you also see biden with a much smaller but still notable advantage. the vice president leading there 50% to 46%. senior voters a very motivated group that tends to show up to the polls. we'll have to see whether that advantage that the vice president has with younger voters is going to be able to help him in the election because we know the younger voters, they tend not to vote with as much frequency but it is possible that with everything going on and now the supreme court vacancy, we could see a more enthused younger electorot
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according to the new poll would help joe biden. >> i get guess to synopsis, it appear to be middle-aged white men without college degrees if you put all of that together. joe biden tends to be leading by a bit in the other categories. okay, josh, thank you for that. i'm joined by madeline dean, a democratic member of the judiciary and financial services committee. thank you for joining me again. let me ask you as we talk about ruth bader ginsburg. what went through your mind when you heard about her death, as someone who practiced law before joining congress. i've got to think she had an impact on youond your life. >> well, thank you for being with me and thank you for kofrpikofr covering this staggering loss. in a year of losses, the death of ruth bader ginsburg is a staggering loss for our court and our entire country. what impressed me as the justice
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served her life, she was a role model for me. a middle-aged woman with a law degree and the chance to practice law. she was a role model for service and integrity and using nur intellect for the good, for all, for the many, for the marginalized. so she was a great role model to me. but my phone kept ringing with a news of the her death from young women. that is what i think is so impressive. young in my office, my co-workers in my office are crushed by the loss of justicin ginsburg. my own daughters-in-law. so i think about her as a role model for women up and down the generations including my gra granddaughters but louisiana for men as well. >> i couldn't agree with you more. this moment became politicized and the president and senate
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majority leader may try to push through a confirmation before election day. it is clear though that the court works bet we are nine justices serving this jucountry. but is it as clear on the timing of justice ginsburg replacement. >> i found it strange and undignified that within an hour of the announcement of her passing mitch mcconnell was saying they would put forth a nominee and voting on it before the election cycle. she was a woman of dignity. she last wish, her fer vent wish was that she not be replaced until after the election and a new president or this president reinstalled. whatever it is. the hypocrisy coming from the senators is just staggering and undignified. it was mitch mcconnell who in 2016 said let the people have a voice. when there was a vacancy ten months before the election. he also said he was proud to look in president barack obama's
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eyes and say he would block his nomination. that is not something to be proud of so i hope cooler heads will reveil that two or more republican senators will come forward and say this will be incredible political and the court should not be an institution that is a political arm just as the senate should not be a political arm for this president. but that seems to be what mitch mcconnell has decided to do. >> well, you've heard the news today. just in this last hour that now there are two with lisa murkowski said she will not support that and following susan collins as well. there may be more. but here is one possible scenario put forth to nancy pelosi this morning. take a listen to this. >> some have mentioned the possibility if they try to push through a nominee in a lame-duck session that you and the house could move to impeach president trump or attorney general barr as a way of stalling and
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preventing the senate from acting on this nomination? >> well, we have our options. we have arrows in our quiver. >> but to be clear you're not taking any arrows out of your quiver, you are noft ruling anything out. >> when we weigh the equities of protecting our democracy, it requires us to use every arrow in our quiver. >> what is your thoughts on that and how many options do you and your colleagues have? >> i do believe we have many options and i think the speaker is wise to say we'll take no option off the table. look at what happened overnight. nearly $100 million was raised through act blue for democratic causes and democratic candidates. the people's voice will be heard on election day. i think that is the way to go. and then in the meantime we in congress have many things that we'll have to do rebuild our country, to rebuild trust in our institutions. to rebuild trust in elected
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officials. i think of it this year, we lost congressman john lewis, his work is unfinished and now we've lost ruth bader ginsburg, her work is unfinished. so it is up to we the people as well as the congress to make sure that we rebuild our appreciate democracy and take it back from the hands of those like president trump and attorney general barr who are using the presidency entirely for personal, political gain. it is a very sad and scary time for our democracy. but i think our elections will save us from that. >> i wan to turn to attorney general bill barr. because he made several headlines last week. and let's play for what you said about concerns that the president would attempt to remain in office even if he loses november election. take a look at this. >> you know, liberals project. you know the president is going to stay in office and seize power and all of that -- i've
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never heard of that crap. and i'm the attorney. i would think i would have heard about it, okay. they're projecting. >> what is your response to that and what is your reaction to all that we've heard from the attorney general this past week? >> well, how about his entire ten you're as attorney general. the attorney general has no credibility. he poured it away in buktds --n buckets. those words came from the same man who ordered the clearing of protesters in lafayette square using force against peaceful protester in lafayette square to clear it so the president could go over with a borrowed bible and take a photo on in front of the church. so the attorney general has no credibility. the other thing we have to look to is the president's own words. it was the president himself who months ago said he might not accept the outcome of the election. and we know that he has used
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attorney general barr and attorney general barr has gladly filled this row of political puppet for the president. >> sobering. madeline dean, good to talk to you. thank you. the new superspreader, the major event in the midwest that has health officials suddenly very concerned. suddenly very concerned looks like they picked the wrong getaway driver. they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault.
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another biker rally is raising alarms about the coronavirus, this time in missouri. thousands are expected for the 14th annual bike fest but health officials worry this could be another superspreader event. last month there was the hallie in sturgis, south dakota, one study found that event could be linked to over, are you sitting down, 250,000 cases. dasha burns is in lake ozark, missouri, that is just remarkable, that last biking event, and the concerns there and what are you hearing from business owners to begin?
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>> reporter: alex, that is right. and i've met several people here who were at that event and then came here. so you could see right now things are just starting to pick up. we're on the main strip here in lake ozark. we heard from folks that this is a late night and things are just picking up. this middle lane has been reserved for motorcycle parking only and we've seen hundreds of bikes stack up all the way down this way. i'll pivot you around in this direction and these go all the way up the hill and well. we have some folks starting to congregate at local businesses. and we don't know exact numbers yet. last year this event threw 125,000 attendees but as i've been talking to folks, they say that this feels pretty comparable to what they've experienced in years pafst despite the coronavirus pandemic. back in june the state lifted covid restrictions here and at
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that time there were about 16,000 cases in the state of missouri. now we have over 113,000 cases and still, alex, i'm hearing a lot of enthusiasm from attendees here and from business owners which is a different story than i've been hearing in other places. many places we've been, businesses have been struggling for the last several months. here i'm hearing the opposite story. that since businesses have reopened, they're doing pretty well. take a listen to what i heard from jeff who owns jeffrey's prime rib and lobster here in town. >> everyone is coming down here. you can't go out in public without wearing the mask. you condition go to restaurants. people come down here and they love it. >> this here, the motorcycles are the sound of money coming to the area. >> reporter: so because surrounding areas have had more restrictions, we've had people flocking to the lake ozark area and spending their dollars here.
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i talked to another business owner down the road here and he said they were closed for seven weeks when the covid first hit and wasn't able to hang on but since april he's doubled his profits from last year. alex. >> dasha, just real quick, that bunch there that is sitting that restaurant that is over your left shoulder, a very friendly bunch. they all waved. i'm just checking, do they know you're here talking about covid-19 and the way it is spread. not a one of them is wearing a mask. they know. i want to check. they're well informed? >> reporter: yeah, they've know i've been talking to a lot of people asking if their worried and the consensus is no. you could see they're here, they're not wearing masks and not social distancing. >> they're waving. >> bars here with pretty packed. what i've heard from a lot of folks is these are tough times and they want a little bit of rest, relaxation and come here and have a good time. >> yes.
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we all -- we all get that. but you could do that wearing a mask. i'm just saying. dasha burns, thank you so much. just two days after the death of supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg the conversation has shifted to politics. the president plans to announce his pick in a couple of days and mitch mcconnell said the senate will proceed with the vote. meanwhile, a growing memorial for justice ginsburg is taki taking place on the steps of the supreme court. and we go to amanda golden. what are you heard about the president's plan. >> reporter: exactly as you laid it out. the president will nominee ate the justice in the coming days and he would pick a woman to replace that seat. and in the last hour we heard a second republican senator come out and say they would not support a vote in the senate. so mitch mcconnell is the man to watch. as he's said he will bring about a vote on the senate floor. but just recently lisa murkowski of alaska said she would not
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support a vote on the floor ahead of the november election. that is also what susan collins of maine has said. so we have two gop senators not moving forward with that. we're waiting to hear from staples from others, whether it is mitt romney or cory gardner, some others that could sway that vote and make a difference one way or another if it did come to the floor. but as we're out here today, talking to people coming to celebrate ruth bader ginsburg legacy and hearing from young families and from parents who bring their children about wanting to share the lessons and what she worked toward for equality and women's rights. take a listen to what some of them told me. >> it was so they could see that the -- the impact she had on so many women and people in general and i wanted to let our children see that you could make a difference and she really did. >> reporter: so, alex, we're continuing to see a celebration sort of emerge here on the steps of the supreme court.
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earlier there was a somber tone and now we have some music going and other folks dancing a bit. and earlier in the day, prayer circles and moments of reflection from people that were coming out here as well as leaving flowers and letters and placing stones here on the steps of the supreme court that is a jewish tradition in honor of ruth bader ginsburg on jewish graves you leave stones instead of flowers and they're more permanent. >> i do love the way people are celebrating in their own way. thank you so much from the supreme court. joining me now, liz goodwin, from the "boston globe" and jeff mason, white house correspondent at reuters. good to see you both. i'm going to start with you, liz. lisa murkowski not wanting to move forward before the november election. is this the canary in the coal mine for republicans? >> i think it remains to be seen. i mean senator murkowski and senator collins are the two easiest no votes you could think of for democrats.
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murkowskis that bucked the party in the past and senator collins was very clear in her past statements that she did not want to have this vote. i'm still watching for some of the other vulnerable senators who have stayed quiet. cory gardner just sort of tweeted his condolences to ginsburg's family. he is in a tough race in colorado. and then senator mitt romney could sometimes be a bit of a maverick. the only republican to vote to convict an impeachment and he hasn't said anything yet and romney cares a lot about process. i could be him being uncomfortable with something that looked rushed or over my political. but at the same time they both love conservative judges and this is an issue that has reunited republicans when they disagree or are criticizing trump, judges brings them altogether. so i think that is a tough sign
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for democrats. >> did the white house anticipate this, jeff? are they expecting more senators to follow? are they -- and if so, who are they concerned about? >> well i think liz laid it out beautifully there. i mean, those names, the ones that she talks about, with the ones that the white house is watching just like all of us are watching. i also agree it is not a huge surprise that senator collins would oppose this when she's in a very competitive race in maine and the question is whether some of the others will as well. but honestly, alex, i don't think the white house is super worried. i think they'll fill a goal that republicans have had and that people in this white house have had for years and years, decades really, and it is not an opportunity they're going to let pass up and i don't think they're super worried that republicans in the senate will snatch it away from them. >> the messaging from the white house and the president is that
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there is precedent to picking a nominee during an election year. in fact they're arguing this, that is the obligation. how soon do you sense they want to fill the vacancy. with the election just 44 days away, are they aiming to do this before the election. is that even possible? >> that is a great question and i don't know the answer. and i don't know for sure whether it matters. they have until essentially up until the end of the year to get it done. so they could do it during the lame-duck session. will they be under more pressure if joe biden were to win, not to go forward with a nominee, absolutely. that said, if they were to hold off, sort of deliberately until after the election, it might give a little bit more room and grace period to senators like the ones that we're talking about earlier, senator collins
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and cory gardner, et cetera. so there is a lot of political thinking or strategy behind how fast they move. but the one question we already know the answer to is they want to move fast and the president has head that clear. worth noting that president sometimes lays out a faster timetable for legislation or policy moves than he sometimes follows through on. in this case he's constrained by the calendar. so he said he's going to come up with a nominee in the next week, he has a real deadline he needs to follow. >> how are democrats weighing this? what options do they have to stop this nomination from going forward. >> i think democrats are clear, even with the conference call yesterday to discuss strategy and they aren't under a lot of illusions, there is not a lot they could do. there are some procedural delays but that is about the best it could get. so they're focused on trying to
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pick up two more republican senators to stand against this. they're hoping that framing this debate as about wanting to take away health care access, if the a.c.a. comes up against 6-3 conservative court, will pressure republicans since health care has been a winning issue for them in the 2018 midterms and that is all they could really do at this point, is hope that two more republicans will decide that this is too political, too ugly, too close to the collection. >> liz goodwin and jeff mason, thank you for the points you made. threat intercepted. what authorities say was inside a mysterious envelope sent to the white house. sterious envelo the white house. introducing stocks by the slice from fidelity.
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an envelope addressed to the president has tested positive for the deadly poison ricin. the letter was intercepted at an off-site facility before it reached the white house. the fbi and secret service are now investigating, though. joining me now, frank figliuzzi from counter intelligence and national security analyst. frank, thanks for joining me on this one. so as a former fbi official, what are these investigations usually looking like? where do you event start? >> thanks for having me, alex. i think first it might be great for the viewers to get a quick reminder on what ricin is and then talk about the investigation. >> sure. >> and put this in proper context. ricin comes from the caster plant and the beans and it involves refining and processing the beans it could be done easily and a extremely powerful toxin. could be very fatal if inhaled or consumed through mist or some other powder or some other
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means. here is the proper context, though. this is happened before. this is not a unique incident. in fact, president barack obama was targeted with a letter or package with ricin in it. and this happens periodically. almost every year in the united states. so the good news is well it is really poisonous, it doesn't usually get to the intended recipient because in the large facilities like the white house or congress or some other federal or government facility, the mail security system using remote processing places does help and really does work. what an investigation like this looks like is a partnership between, in this case the secret service, because the president is apparently involved and then the fbi. the postal inspection service which is just a really talented group of people that could trace things through the mail and now we're hearing through news report this is may involve canada and the royal canadian mounted police because allegedly
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the letter had its origins in canada. >> could you just help me envision what it looks like. like being sent in a letter? what does if look like. a regular envelope and a sprinkling of powder. how much could be damaging and could you just stick that in a regular envelope? >> oh, yeah, absolutely could. so the imagination, this is up to the creativity of the sender whether it is in a box or an envelope. a few grains the size of a few grains of salt would be enough to kill somebody. >> yikes. >> so most likely it looks like a powder or grains. but, listen, i want to point to something because there is a lot of not helpful chatter out there about this on social media and that is a very simple statement that has been put out by the fbi. and this is how i read it. so it says something like at this time there is no apparent risk to public safety. that is really important.
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they don't take those statements lightly. so that tells me, alex, they have this in hand. they've identified the packages, they think they might have all of the packages out there. and then there is some public reporting that they may have a suspect. maybe even in canada. so the fact that the phish feels comfortable saying there is no public safety risk here, it is extremely important. >> that is big. >> and i would not be surprised if we see an arrest perhaps even in the next day or two. >> i want to pivot to something that you wrote about in an nbc think piece and this is about brian murphy who alleged he was ordered by chad wolf to stop providing intelligence assessments on the threat of russian interference in the u.s. and instead start reporting on interference by china and iran. so in this report that you wrote, you wrote if intelligence has suppressed or manipulated with a few weeks to go before a
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presidential election, our law enforcement agencies that rely on dhs intelligence could be flying blind in a rapidly developing storm. so explain this and the pivot that is being alleged. >> yeah, we're continuing to see increasingly now as we get closer and closer to the election, a manipulation of the truth and even worse a suppression of the truth. and what this bes down to, alex, for all of us are two significant things happening. one, is can the public trust whatever it is coming out of the government and we -- this is a time when we need to know and hear accurately from our government. whether our ballots are going to be fraudulent, manipulated, there is foreign power involvement and a terrorist threat domestically to us, all of that could be not suppressed during this time and ultimately look at the trust issue coming out with a covid vaccine. can we trust, has damage been done so devastatingly to our
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institutions, that we might not even trust someone to tell us that there is a safe and effective vaccine out there. this is a crucial time where truth can't be suppressed and where people like chad wolf at the head of dhs must be called to account for suppression of the truth. >> okay, frank figliuzzi, thank you for weighing in on this. and you mentioned covid, the numbers are staggering, more than 200,000 people dead. up next, remembering the lives lost to the pandemic. bering thes lost to the pandemic the rx, crafted by lexus. lease the 2020 rx 350 for $409 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. >> techand your car., we're committed to taking care of you >> tech: we'll fix it right with no-contact service you can trust. >> tech: so if you have auto glass damage, stay safe with safelite. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ i'm a verizon engineer. and i'm part of the team building... ...a powerful 5g experience for america.
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people of color in this country. he's a lackey for the president that he serves, and in a lot of ways, i think he's the most dangerous man in the country, with the power of the justice department behind him. >> joining me now, don callaway, founder of the national voter protection fund. don, big welcome to you, my friend. i'm guessing you agree with eric holder here, but do you see barr's comments about potential threats? is it an attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the election for example? or do you think it's just rhetoric? >> no, it's not just rhetoric. it's rhetoric if the secretary of commerce or secretary of the treasury says these things. but the department of justice controls the courts and controls the legal system in this country, and that's how we settle disputes. there is no doubt that this election will probably come down to federal courts. there's no doubt that william barr will weaponize this president's justice department in order to litigate this election on his side.
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so i think everybody should be preparing and raising money for disputed elections, but it's particularly dangerous to have the justice department weaponized in use of the president's personal goals and initiatives. so it's particularly dangerous coming from him. >> let's put together a few more comments by the attorney general, things he said recently. >> you can vote twice? >> you know, maybe you can change your vote up to a particular time. i don't know what the law is, as i said repeatedly. i'm basing that on logic. >> pardon? >> they're not interested in black lives, they're interested in props, a small number of blacks who were killed by police. other than slavery, which was a different kind of restatement, this is the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in american history. >> i listened to wolf blitzer
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good day, everyone, from msnbc here in new york, an hour three with alex witt promises to be a busy one. in philadelphia, any minute joe biden will be speaking on the supreme court vacancy. this following the death of justice ruth bader ginsburg. and back in washington, the battle over justice ginsburg's seat is escalating. senators from both sides debate whether a nominee should be considered before the election. >> everything is on the line here. health care is on the line. i think my republican colleagues are the ones, they have to decide based on what they said before, they set this new precedent in the last -- in 2016, and they've got to follow their own words. >> we need a full court on election day, given the very high likelihood we're going to see litigation that goes to the court. we need a supreme t