>> tomorrow justice ruth bader ginsburg will become the first woman to lay in state, a formal honor, at the u.s. capital. that does is for "the beat" with ari melber. i'll be back tomorrow at 6:00 eastern. the "reidout" with joy reid starts now. >> donald trump continues to mock the very idea of democracy, refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power after the election if he doesn't win. today putin's apprentice took a rare trip outside his maga bubble to the united states supreme court to pay respects to ruth bader ginsburg, the justice ruth bader ginsburg. he got a very rude awakening about how democracy actually

works. >> vote him out! >> that's harsh. trump was confronted with signs of how big of a challenge he faces november. "new york times" poll shows him trailing joe biden in iowa, tied in georgia, and barely leading in texas, all states that he won in 2016. just out tonight fox news polls show him losing three battleground states, nevada, pennsylvania, and ohio. what? like it or not trump is facing the consequences of his mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic. more than 203,000 american lives have been lost to the virus under his watch. facing dismal prospects he's showing autocratic tendencies, trying to send a message that voters be damned, he's not going

anywhere. >> will you commit to a peaceful transfer of power after the election. >> we'll have to see what happens. you know i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and the ballots are a disaster. >> i understand that. but people are rioting. do you commit to making sure there's a peaceful transfer of power. >> get rid of the ballots and we'll have a very peaceful -- there won't be a transfer, there will be a continuation. >> just get rid of the ballots, don't have an election, there will be a continuation. this afternoon he made clear he's sticking to that autocratic rhetoric. >> we want to make sure the election is honest and i'm not sure it can be. >> meanwhile trump's republican sycophants on capitol hill did pl best to appear to tamp down his undemocratic claims. in a tweet, mitch mcconnell said the winner will be inaugurated in an orderly transition.

mitt romney said, that a president might not respect this constitutional guarantee is unthinkable and unacceptable. what you don't see in those comments is the name donald trump. then there's old lindsey graham. >> people wonder .peaceful transfer of power. i can assure you it will be peaceful. we may have litigation about who won the election but the court will decide. if the republicans lose, we'll accept that result. >> that assurance, quite frankly, sounds like horse pucky comes from mr. use my words about potus nominee. certainly doesn't inspire confidence and comes on the heels of a frightening analysis that trump's greatest abuses won't even come until after election night in a new piece titled "the election that could break america" writes, unquote, according to sources matt republican party at state and national levels, the trump campaign is discussing

contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where republicans hold ledgesive authority. with justifications of rampant fraud, trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly. with election 40 days under way and voting happening in several states, pennsylvania, minnesota, michigan, new jersey, illinois, lines stretched up to 2 1/2 hours today. it means when it comes down to it, do not count on republicans to do the right thing. in fact, just assume they won't do the right thing. the only people who can save this democracy are you, the voters. joining me now chris murphy of connecticut. senator, lindsey graham went on tv today and others tweeted to try to make it look like they are normal members of a democracy, we would never, ever

allow donald trump to seize control of the white house and never let it go. here is lindsey graham saying so. >> there's a lot of shady things going on, but the courts will hear all of our complaints. the courts will decide. we will accept the court's decision, republican and democrat, i promise you, as a republican if the supreme court rules in favor of joe biden, i will accept that result. >> senator murphy, the problem with the i promise as a republican, you can count on me, everyone, is this. here is lindsey graham making similar promises and protestations about the supreme court. >> if there's a republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say lindsey graham said let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination, and you could use my words against me

and you'd be absolutely right. >> senator, why should anyone believe anything lindsey graham or anything any of these republicans say. >> you shouldn't. you shouldn't. you can't believe lindsey graham, you can't believe the president, you can't believe mitch mcconnell. they have made it 100% clear there is only one motivation that drives them. it is not honor, it is not precedent, it is not truth telling, it is not patriotism. it is the accumulation of power. if anybody had any question as to whether that was true, they have been disabused of that notion over the last five days. so you are very right. ultimately, this is up to us. we are going out there. instead of spending our days worrying about whether there's going to be a peaceful transition of power, going out and working every day for joe biden and senate candidates to make sure there is absolutely no question. it is still within our hands. yes, it's sad and disgraceful that we have to win by six or seven points in order to avoid a

contest, in order to win in the electoral college but i'm telling my activists let us in washington worry about trying to set up all of the protections we can to assure a transition of power. the millions of people who care about this out in the country have to go out there and work to get joe biden elected. >> let me let you listen to chris wray, the fbi director, one of the last credible figures that had anything to do with this administration talking about this idea of voting fraud. >> we have not seen historically any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort, whether by mail or otherwise. >> as a reminder, utah, colorado, washington state vote 100% by mail. it is poppycock to say a nefarious scheme that will happen, but that is what it appears that even statewide

republicans are planning to use as a very thin pretext potentially to steal the election and say we don't care that the majority of pennsylvanians voted-for-joe biden we're giving the election to donald trump. so my question is, do you have any confidence that if a slate of electors was sent to a state like pennsylvania to the united states senate that completely violated and overturned the will of the people in that state, is there a single republican, in your mind, that would actually say no to those electors. isn't it true they would all say, you know, well, something something harry reed, something something obama, make an excuse, lindsey graham and all would put in the electors that were not voted for. >> i think the honest answer to your question is i don't know. we are spending a lot of time behind the scenes in the united states senate talking through these scenarios to the extent they will listen with republicans to make sure that in

the days after the election they stand up for the simple premise all votes get counted. that's the first thing that's going to happen. the president is going to try to stop the mail-in votes from counting, create some controversy. republicans have to be clear that all those votes have to be counted. as we move down this schedule of horribles that you mentioned, including potential contests over who are qualified as electors, we are going to have to be consistently pressing our republican friends to stand up for the rule of law. listen, i have less faith than ever before that they are going to stand up and do the right thing but our ability to win this election by sizable numbers in places like pennsylvania will make their cover for donald trump much harder. >> very quickly before i let you go, senator, in the year 2000, a number of particularly black and asian-american members of the house of representatives went to

the floor in the well of the senate and begged for even one senator to say they would affirm they would not seat those electors. they only needed one vote. would you pledge you would be that one vote, if necessary, to join if the house objects to the electors? >> well, i think the answer is likely yes. obviously it would depend on the circumstances. but let me just tell you, we are going to leave no stone unturned to make sure that the voters decide this election, not donald trump, not lawyers, not ar-15 wielding protesters in the street, we are going to be there for the american people if there's a contest. >> yeah, and i'll throw in not russia. that would be nice, too. senator chris murphy, thank you for coming on. appreciate it. joining me staff writer for the atlantic and opinion writer for "the washington post." you scared the hell out of everyone in america with your piece but let's walk through it.

let me start with what you wrote about this pennsylvania gop chairman talking about electors. this is the sort of parade of horribles that could happen after election day before election. i've mentioned it to them, and i hope they are thinking about it, too. i just don't think it's time to discuss strategies and approaches but direct appointment of electors is one of the options. it's one of the available legal options in the constitution. i understand why republicans would like for you to write about that because they would want it to be normalized in the world. how real is the idea that republican legislators in pennsylvania would ignore the election and put in electors. how real is that? >> they are never going to tell themselves and tell you they are ignoring the will of the people. they are going to be highly invested in a narrative of fraud and abuse and rigged voting and

the collapse of ordering voting. it's going to be portrayed, i think, if it happens as a consequence of the vote count being poisoned and falling apart and being untrustworthy, so the legislators are going to have to make their own judgment about the what is the will of their constituents. that would be the way they would pitch it. >> isn't it true that with -- go ahead. >> i was going to say the state of pennsylvania, for example, just for one second. pennsylvania has a democratic governor. it's not as if democrats have no cards to play. i do believe the secretary of state might be a democrat. aren't there state laws that republicans would either have to change or abrogate in order to pull something like this off. >> it depends state by state. that could very well be true. it is not obvious that it's okay

to grant the people the right to choose electors by popular vote and then after they vote yank that power back. but again, it wouldn't be portrayed that way. it would be portrayed as rescuing the will of the people from the collapse of orderly voting that donald trump would be. >> all these people mr. gelman is talking about are politicians that then have to get re-elected themselves. i can't imagine statewide election two years later or wherever in the state of arizona or anywhere where the voters would then return to office somebody who said, screw you, i don't care what you voted for. i don't care that i heard steve kornacki say on msnbc this race is called for joe biden, i'm putting in trump and sort of imposing trump somehow on the american people, they would be doomed electoral. it would be incredible that

every legislator in all states would collude to throw the election to trump. can you imagine your former party doing it? >> no, i can't, but they have done ridiculous things. i want to underscore something, though. those ballots trump says are invalid have republican senators on them as well. >> that's right. >> it's interesting to see if they are so gung-ho about throwing out ballots or not counting ballots when they are behind on the day of the election. so let's say how much lindsey graham really supports donald trump if he thinks some of those votes out there could be his, particularly military ballots. none of this makes an awful lot of sense. if they had been logical from the beginning they would have dumped him long ago and gone with pat souza, evangelical right winger. they aren't being logical. they are afraid of their own shadow. they are afraid of donald trump. they are afraid of their own

base. they go through these machinations. that's why you see people running down the halls, afraid to comment. they hope it will all work out and they won't have to take take stand or saying anything. i do think that something you said is absolutely right. it is very hard for them to pull it off if there is a margin of victory in many, many states. it's one thing to have one state, as we did in 2000 in florida or even ohio in 2004 when there was still votes outstanding. another to have a margin of five, six percentage of votes in a whole slew of states. it becomes a little bit untenable or more untenable for him. i think we have to rely on people like chris wray and one of the commissioner allen weintraub. i don't know what you're talking

about, we don't throw out votes, we count them in america. we're going to have to rely on a lot of people inside the government, outside the government, to try to see if there's a sufficient margin of victory so it just becomes untenable for him to go forward. and that we're even discussing this, even having to go through this is so frightening and so antithetical to america, it's like we're operating in a tinpot dictatorship. the united states of america should be considering these options is frightful and very disturbing. you would think at this point voters would have had enough of this clown show. >> the way to do it is don't wait for the regime, assume the regime is already here, the republicans are all working together on it. it is what it is. fight back with your vote. thank you all very much. up next on the "reidout," another note of protests after kentucky attorney general decided breonna taylor's life

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people are gathering in cities across the country for a second night of protest in the wake of yesterday's grand jury decision not to charge any of the louisville police officers in the shooting death of breonna taylor. in fact, only one officer saw charges from that night, and that was for the wanton endan r endangerment of taylor's

neighbors. overnight the anger and frustration of yet another black person denied justice played out in the streets nationwide. sadly, it's become all too frequent, all too frequent occurrence and americans have banded together to call for substantial changes in this country only to be mostly ignored. in louisville two police officers were shot during the protest and a suspect is in custody and both officers are expected to recover. 127 people were arrested during the protest. joining me now is ben crump, one of the attorneys for breonna taylor's family. ben, the question i'm getting from people texting me is is this actually over. i want to play the governor of kentucky andy beshear who wants more information released. here he is. >> it's time to post all the information, all the facts, interviews, ballistics. it's time for people to see basic information, facts and evidence and be able to come to their own conclusions about

justice. >> just looking at this as the attorney for the family, ben, do you believe there will be any more investigation about the shooting itself and what led to the shooting and the pretext for the police officers entering breonna taylor's apartment. >> yes, i do, joy reid. breonna taylor's family and my co-couns co-counsels, we agree with governor beshear that the transparency that he talks about, but also kentucky attorney general cameron talked about yesterday needs to be real. that's why we're demanding the transcripts of the grand jury proceedings to be released, because we don't know what evidence he presented to that grand jury. did he present any evidence whatsoever on behalf of breonna taylor? because if he did not, joy reid, then he unilaterally put his thumb on the scale of justice to

help exonerate these police officers who killed breonna taylor and made sure that she would be denied justice based on his presentation to the grand jury. so we want to know, did anybody speak tore breonna taylor in those grand jury proceedings. >> yeah. i think a lot of us would like to know the makeup, racial makeup of that grand jury. mr. aguilar you just mentioned put up a post you retweeted i commented on twitter, three counts on shots of apartment into the white neighbors, no shots into the apartment of the black neighbors above breonna's. this added insult to jury. as much as i talked to you, i didn't realize the neighbors listed, three neighbors ligsed as the only people that charges were filed for were all white neighbors. the black neighbor was left out as well as breonna taylor and her boyfriend, endangering them was left out.

it blue me back, as did the fact that the decision was made on the 65th anniversary of emmett till's killers being let off by a grand jury. how did that information not come out publicly earlier? it's pretty terrifying. >> you've got to remember, daniel cameron only notified the family ten minutes before they made all of this information public about his grand jury results. i do say it's his grand jury because 99.9% of the time, a grand jury will indict if a prosecutor wants them to indict. if they don't want them to indict, joy reid, they will not indict. we have seen this in all of these police cases we see every day in america that they can indict black and brown people for almost anything. so we cannot let people forget that this was his doing. and also, joy reid, there is

going to be more investigations into this. the fbi is investigating the civil rights violations against breonna taylor. the fact that daniel cameron never presented to the grand jury that the probable cause affidavit was a lie that formed the basis of the judge signing the no knock search warrant that allowed them to go bust open the front door of breonna taylor. so many things we believe he did not present to this grand jury, and that's why we're demanding this transcript to see if breonna taylor ever, ever had anybody in that grand jury proceeding speaking for her, because it seems like her life didn't matter. it seems like her name was not put on the indictment. so it's almost as if black women's lives don't matter in this criminal justice system, especially as it relates to this attorney general.

>> yeah, daniel cameron did manage to say he was going to have a study. that was about it. he barely even mentioned breonna taylor's name yesterday. it was pretty stark for him to be the guy to do that. ben crump, thank you very much, my friend, always appreciate you. thank you for being here. joining me kentucky representative charles booker. your thoughts on this. to have this black attorney general, who is an acolyte for mitch mcconnell, spoke up for donald trump. i think he mentioned donald trump with more plaudits than breonna taylor when he made this presentation. do you trust him to put a full case before the grand jury on behalf of breonna taylor. >> first of all i want to repeat what i told the commonwealth yesterday, the justice failed us. in terms of whether i trust my former classmate, this is not about trust, we need to verify. this whole process, 120 days

we've been crying out in the streets across a commonwealth across this country demanding justice and accountability and we have not seen any transparency. we've all been kept in the dark, even us as elected officials. now with this announcement it was very obvious he was cherry picking facts appropriate and expedition yentz and many expected to happen anyway, hiding behind the law, and essentially preaching to the kmont wealth and a country that are grieving. it hurts, it's disheartening and frustrating. we ned to know the truth, and we need to know all the facts. >> daniel cameron showed up on the list of people he would like to be on the supreme court. he's 38 and i don't think he's tried a criminal case. do you think it was political, his loyalty to donald trump and mitch mcconnell. >> it's hard to ignore politics.

i listen to the nunsments aanno and you heard a lot of narratives lifted up. her death was justified. this is a part of ensuring the law and protecting order. you heard these narratives that have been elevated by the highest office in the land. considering the climate that we're in, we would be fools to ignore the politic. that's what's most disappointing. this is not a moment of politics, we're pursuing justice. we're pursuing accountability and humanity for everyone. we need our leaders to be account able. the courage to lead and lift voices up and make justice ring true for us all. >> despite the fact that they have not shown too much compassion for breonna taylor, kevin mccarthy house minority leader spk late about antifa having training camps, even though there were actual training camps, the man who

drove a car into a california protest in may. he used his vineyard because he's rich with a lot of guns, used it as a tactical training camp. we know that's happening on the other side. are you concerned the federal government, bill barr, donald trump et al. and mitch mcconnell will try to sick federal authorities on louisville in response to the protests? >> well, not only am i concerned, we know that is a very real possibility. we hear the narrative of law and order. we know that the president is watching closely because the entire country is watching closely. that's why my call for all of us is to protect this movement, to resist those narratives of hate and the wedges that would divide us and lean in in love. we're trying to realize justice for everyone. we're not going to let hate win. but we've been trying. as we continue to march, as we continue to speak up, as we continue to run for office and lead ourselves, we're going to do it with a sense of

determination and unity of all people, and we're going to beat that hate. >> thank you so much kentucky state representative charles booker i know a lot wish was on the ballot against mitch mcconnell. i'm sure you'll try again for a statewide office, at least a lot of people hope so. thank you for being here. republicans are still hell bent on dismantling obamacare. did someone forget to tell them we're in the middle of a pandemic. who needs health care during a pandemic anyway? oh, right, everybody. everybody does. we'll be right back. everybody does we'll be right back. it's open! hey. think you're managing your moderate to severe ulcerative colitis... ...or crohn's disease? - are you ok? - i did. i was there. but i never knew when my symptoms... ...would keep us apart. so, i talked to my doctor and learned...

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aca? >> we want to terminate health care for -- under obamacare, because it's bad. we're replacing it with a great health care at far less money. >> for years the republican party now led by donald trump has vowed to repeal and replace the affordable care act, a position that is deeply, deeply unpopular with the public. now with the death of ruth bader ginsburg and the court set to hear a case to strike down the aca the week of the election, trump is closer to his destructive goal of ending obamacare. talk about american carnage. if the court overturns aca republicans will rip health care away from 20 million americans. the number could be much larger. millions more are relying on medicaid because of the pandemic. as of tonight 203,000 americans have died from the virus and 7 million tested positive, which,

by the way, is considered a pre-existing condition. we know trump and his republican enablers were never serious about replacing the affordable care act. they just want it gone. forty days before the election and trailing on the issue of health care, laying out a farcical health care vision that has no teeth. here in the real world trump has not lowered drug prices. he is not protecting pre-existing conditions and he does not have any real plan to help replace the affordable care act. for more i'm joined by former secretary of health and human services under president bill clinton. you know, congresswoman, let's talk about about pre-existing conditions issue. i interviewed hillary clinton the other day at the texas festival and she blew my mind with something i hadn't thought about. the 6 million people and counting that contracted the coronavirus, even if they survive it, then have a pre-existing condition, it looks

to me like republicans are trying to indemnify insurance companies from having to cover those people. that would be the outcome if the aca went away, right? >> absolutely. the aca covers private health insurance. i think a lot of americans will be very surprised if the aca goes away with this court case, they will no longer be able to cover their children up to 26. that will end up with no preventive coverage. vaccines won't be covered and lifetime limits will be imposed again on health insurance. so this is a disaster in the making. and i think that most americans think it's just about obamacare, about the insurance that 23 million people get as opposed to its effect on the entire health insurance system. you know, i have the largest enrollment in obamacare in the

country in my district, 100,000 people. you can't take health insurance away from 100,000 people overnight. >> they want to, including one of the people who would then be left with a pre-existing condition is a member of the current health secretary a member of health and human secretary alex azar security detail this week tested positive for coronavirus. azar had to undergo testing for coronavirus. he will no longer be able to get insurance. you're welcome. that's from your party, dude. this idea of having an executive order that donald trump claims, i'll do an executive order and pre-existing conditions will be covered. that would have no law. >> executive orders are not law. there's no way that he could cover pre-existing conditions with an executive order. you can't order all the insurance companies in the company to cover pre-existing

conditions. he's raising prices if you have a pre-existing condition. he could say, yeah, you have to cover prepistonsing conditions. what he doesn't say is you cannot charge more if you have a pre-existing condition. >> exactly. then people would be charged sky high. by the way, on this topic of a vaccine. "the washington post" reports the food and drug administration, they are going to announce tougher standards to make it unlikely that anyone -- that one could be cleared by election day. food drug administration tough new study for coronavirus vaccine as soon as this week that will make it exceedingly difficult to have a virus cleared before election day. they want to make sure that the vaccine, whatever it is, is safe and effective. here is donald trump responding to that. >> the fda is reportedly considering stricter guidelines for the emergency authorization

of a covid vaccine. are you okay with that? >> i'll tell you why we're looking at that, it has to be approved by the white house. we may or may not approve it. that sounds like a political move. >> congresswoman, presidents don't approve vaccines. it's not part of the job description. so what do you make of this sort of authoritarian i, myself, get to approve this? that's one part. the second part is you used to head the health and human services department, would you allow yourself to be injected with a vaccine that donald trump had anything to do with? >> no, absolutely not. but look, the public doesn't trust that this vaccine will be safe and effective now. what the fda is doing is putting a process in place to try to get that public trust back. donald trump, part of his narrative, undercutting science,

politicizing the process. it is dangerous and people are going to die because of it. it's really outrageous. i was in government for eight years. i ran hhs. not once did i ever reverse a decision of the fda. not once did i ever influence the decision. a regulatory agency, a science agency, they ought to put extra layers on because we've done this vaccine very quickly. we want it to be safe and effective and that's what the american people expect. >> yes, absolutely. congresswoman donna shalala of florida, thank you very much. appreciate you being here. still ahead, trump, towady, speaking of florida, making it hard to vote all ignoring the deadly virus through his state. that on the "reidout."

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in any election year, it's all eyes on florida, florida, florida. what we're seeing there sure looks like a setup for massive voter suppression. in a 2018 referendum florida voters undid post civil warren aced in several states to undercut reconstruction, people convicted of felonies stripped of their voting rights even after they served their time. the referendum restored the right to vote for more than a million people. to try to get around it, anticipating those who would now be able to vote would reflect the disproportionate incarceration of black and brown people, the republican legislature announced an asterisk. they enacted a rule requiring former felons to pay all of their fines and fees before they

could get their voting rights back. well, a rather ironic figure is now coming to the rescue. billionaire and former mayor mike bloomberg, whose own presidential campaign was undercut by stop an frisk raised $16 million so 30,000 black and latinx people who completed their prison sentences can pay off their debts and vote. republicans remain undeterred when it comes to disenfranchisement. attorney general ashley moody is trying to block that effort asking officials to investigate potential violations of election laws. true story. we note here the republican crickets when it comes to myriad election law violations by trump and his cronies, violating the hatch act to asking ukraine for that favor. not to be outdone, governor ron did he fants, one of trump's groveling sycophants who once embraced trump's rhetoric releasing an ad showing his child building a wall with toy

blocks. he is also taking aim at bloomberg's donation while mimicking trump's authoritarian ways and trying to increase fees against protesters for their rights. >> a felony if you incapacitate roadways. we see people take over interstates. that is absolutely hazardous, not fair to motorists who get caught up in that. that will be unacceptable. >> you okay, florida? i mean, that's a thing. florida is not okay. far from it. covid deaths are on the rise. remember back in march desantis seemed to miss the whole covid memo during spring break lagging bin other states in lockdown measures. his rush to reopen wasn't just a bad idea it was deadly. today florida reported 177 more deaths since wednesday bringing the number of floridans who have died after contracting covid-19

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wonder why republicans are trying to hard to confirm a supreme court nominee as fast as they can? it is because the numbers aren't looking good for them. a new york times poll shows the race is tightening in some traditional red states. in georgia the race is within the margin of error for david purdue's seat. in iowa, democrat teresa

greenfield is ahead. in deep mississippi, mike espy only one point behind cindy hyde-smith. joining me now is mike espy, the democratic senate candidate in mississippi. and mike espy, you are really close in this poll. you ran against cindy hyde-smith befo before. you lost. but this time you have got some new momentum. you have other celebs donating to you. people are behind you. but it doesn't necessarily appear that the democratic party is leaning in. you said this to the american prospect last week. the dnc says they want minorities to run for office, but when they actually do, we don't get the support we need and deserve. where else in america is an african-american population of 40%. are you getting support from the democratic party despite all your great polling, et cetera?

>> first of all, thank you, joy, for having me this evening and i do appreciate this opportunity. >> sure. >> and i have love what we have seen. we did run before 18 months ago. as you know, we got 47% of the vote. so it's almost like we had to run them so we can win now. so we're running. there have been three polls. we took one back in february nine points down. then one in august five points down and the then you mentioned one point down. and so now we are receiving tremendous support just since justice ginsburg died we have raised $1.5 million. and these are folks that know i'm going to be a vote for the affordable care act and protect medicaid expansion. so yes. now to your point -- >> and you know -- uh-huh. >> the help we're getting from the national democratic party, i will say it has been better. but it is getting better since they have seen the polling get better and the upward

trajectory. but he told me that mississippi is not so much red as it is unorganized. so what we have been saying is it's the result of decades of disinvestment. so if the national party had invested money, real money, real, tangible money in political infrastructure, we would have more mike espys. it would have happened before now. so it is happening. they are beginning to give. we are grateful for everything. but it is a catch 22. you are ignored until you can prove yourself viable. can't prove yourself viable when you are ignored. >> right, absolutely. >> 60/40, but many of those african-americans are low-income. they can't give me $50, $20 when we need to run our campaign. so the dnc is weighing in now. the dnc is weighing in now, and we're dwrat fgrateful. >> and i think they should. the south is the battleground. it's south carolina.

it's georgia. i think it's alabama. i don't understand why the democrats aren't investing to save that doug jones seat. you know, black voters are in the south. that's where the action is. you are running against one cindy hyde-smith. this is her most famous statement, public statement. >> if he invited me to a public hanging, i'd be on the front row. >> she is not exactly somebody who is big on racial issues, saying she'd be front row at a hanging. it is also a state that has got a lot of covid issues. 95,310 cases, 2,874 deaths. disproportionate cases and deaths among the black populations, which as you said is the largest in the country. what are the biggest issues that voters are telling you are important to them? >> the number one issue in the

campaign for us is the number one problem in mississippi. that's health care. we have -- >> yeah. >> 600,000 people with regard to pre-existing conditions. and my number one issue is medicaid expansion because if we had it tomorrow, we'd have over a fourth of a quarter of a million people in mississippi with the ability to pay their medical bills because we'd have medicaid expansion. we have had eight hospitals that have closed in the last eight years. that's because of uncompensated care. if we can do like missouri has recently done, we could bring that to here and take care of these pre-existing conditions, these those rural hospitals open and that's what i've got to do as a health care senator. >> absolutely. give stuart stevens a call. he explained to me how viable you are, sir. so he believes that this is viable for you. so good luck to you, mike espy.

thank you so much for being here. i do want to tell you -- >> thank you. >> good luck. good luck. i also want to tell you guys about the launch of my new podcast kamala next in line about harris's rise from humble roots to become the first african-american woman to become the first vice presidential nominee for a major party. you can subscribe for free right now wherever you get your podcast. that's tonight's "reid out". tonight on "all in". >> vote him out! vote him out! >> outside of his bubble, the unpopular president hears from americans. >> get rid of the ballots and you will have a very peaceful -- there won't be a transfer. >> why you should believe him when he says that