moms and dads and brothers and sisters, that's the story. also, the fact that we are going to see significant long-term injury as of this. we are only beginning to understand this. >> dr. peter thotez, it is wonderful to have your insight. thank you for that. "the rachel maddow" show starts right now. >> good evening. thank you at home to union us at this hour. happy to have you here. fox news channel released its latest swing state head to head polls from the presidential election. in pennsylvania, former vice president joe biden is leading president trump by seven points. in nevada, joe biden is leading trump by 11 points, in ohio, this latest fox news polling

shows joe biden leading trump by 5%. that ohio's result is interesting. ohio is not in reach for a democratic candidate anymore. ohio is no longer a swing state. this is the third ohio poll in a row all for this month all have joe biden beating donald trump in ohio. this is the largest margin, there has been three in a row now. iowa is another one of those states that political wisdom is supposed to be a loss cause for a democratic candidate now. the last few polls out of iowa are a mix bag. one shows trump up by three and another shows biden up by three and the des moines showing trump

tied. it varied a little bit over the course of the race but not that much. the same story from the beginning. biden is leading trump nationally by a considerable margin. right now biden at 49.5% and trump at 43. again, this is a national poling average, an average put together by clear politics. biden has a 6.5 national point lead over the president. you can see this graph overtime. it goes back over a year overtime, biden's lead over the president has been has high as 12 points, roughly this time last year. and as low as four points back in may of this year. that's as close as it gotten. right now again it is over 6.

>> the incumbent president looking at the polling, he's losing his race for reelection. he's losing in national polling and losing in swing state polling and even in some red states polling. all is adding that he's losing the electoral college and he'll be a one-term president. the president is losing to biden and it has been clearly true before the pandemic and before the economy up and die in a fiery wreck with a few surviv survivors. now within less than six weeks until election day arrives. the president is contending with a lot of terrible news. large and small, i mean he has to be frustrated. just over the last couple of days, right? one of his adult sons, has been

ordered by a judge that he must produce documents and sit for a sworn deposition for the new york attorney general and he needs to do it the next few weeks, october 11th is the latest. he would not be able to give this deposition until after the election was over but a judge has told him otherwise, you do not get the terms of this, this is a legal proceeding and you are to sit when you are told to. the president's businesses which he remains invested but his business are now run by his adult sons, again, one of whom who's about to be questioned by the attorney general. the question is fighting subpoenas for his own tax returns and financial records in conjunction of other

investigations brought by new york authorities. in those ones, his lawyers have been able to stretch it out. trump's family members are expected to be under oath in court in relation to those matters within two weeks. his son eric is expected to be decompose deposed. the president got news that the daughter of his oldest -- mary trump has the receipts. it was her trove of documents and tax returns. those documents came from mary trump. they were part of the basis for

her own best selling book. they are the foundation of this newly filed lawsuit against the president and his sister. did i mention it is worth tens of millions of dollars? today there were more than a thousand americans who were killed by coronavirus. again. and more than 20 states, the number of new cases are rising again. the national numbers are ticking back up, too. look at the case numbers in north dakota and south dakota. look at wisconsin and oklahoma, bottom left and lower right there. here we go again. with over 200,000 americans dead already. a thousand americans are dying per day. numbers are taking off like a rocket again. more than six months onto this

crisis and we are trending worse and not better. there is no reason to expect that'll let up between now and the election, not in way trump's supporting republican governors are following his lead in terms of not taking aggressive measures to slow the coronavirus. the unemployment number today were worse than the government expected, 870,000 americans filing for unemployment the past week. we now have more than 25 straight weeks of unemployment number being worst in the worst week of the recession back in 2008 and 2009. things are bad. i keep on saying this. things are terrible right now in terms of the pandemic and the economy and political norms and

ju just everything else. things are very bad. put yourself in the president's shoes. if you are in incumbent president of the united states right now, the president gets reelected and think of the economy and you have this unprecedented ex extranality. you think about that and you think of the investigation that is are tracing and trailing your businesses and your family now and you are running for re-election right now and the election is really soon. things are very bad. it is one bad news day after another if you are the president right now. and even if things that he has developed since he has been president, even the things he tried to do while in office particularly to punish his

enemies and turn the awesome power of the u.s. federal government into his personal weapon that he wheeled for his own services. you recall that the the president fired the fbi director who would not back off. that has been made into a two-night show time movie called "the comey rule." it is going to air on september 27th. the president is not going to like it at all. after the president firings j james comey and the next after comey is andrew mccabe.

the justice department went along with that and fired mccabe. andrew mccabe sued over what he calls wrongful firing. mr. mccabe is going to have the opportunity to sue of what he says is the real reason he's fired. christopher wray showing up and telling congress that part is true and defy the president's publicly held conspiracy. yes, russia is interfering our election and no, there is no mystical election threat derives people voting by mail because they have to because of covid. no, the country is not over run by left wing revolutionaries. the big threat that the fbi is

dealing with now is white wingers. christopher wray keeps on saying what's going to go on with the fbi, he's going to fire another fbi director right before the election at this time? maybe? nothing is going the way the president wants to go. all of this is bad news. the chief of staff of homeland security calling him a threat of the country and started organizing currently trump officials to try to persuade the american people to vote against this president. the top aide called the president a threat of the country who does not care if americans live or die. she saw the president called covid a good thing because it would stop him shaking hands

from supporters that he called disgusting, disgusting people that he did not want to touch. he heard the president asked china to help his reelection this time just like russia helped him last time. after that one, the president stick to john bolton and tried to block his book from publication. now officials who over saw the review of bolton's book to see if there is any classified information in it. she's now told the federal judge that the whole national security process inside the white house was falsified. when they could not block it, they want to punish him.

when you are a leader and you can't use your power, that's a bad day. today nearly 500 senior military officers and national security officials signed off a letter declaring trump unfit for office. we have seen a list of national security experts and retired of personnel coming out saying this is the wrong person to be commander in chief. president trump is a bad person and you should not keep him in office. we are getting used to that a little bit. on this statement, there are 22 retired four-star military officers including some who served under donald trump including, for example, the general trump appointed as the chief of staff, paul selva,

retired a year ago after serving under trump. he signed onto this letter saying vote for biden, trump is a catastrophe. same go for the admiral who ran the coast guard under trump. these officers are putting their names on it and not anonymously. given these guys served until quite recently at high levels directly under this president, they're putting their names out there, do not reelect this person no matter what you do. that's something. and this cascade of bad news for the president and all of these signs and indicators pointing to him being a one term president is all come as voting is not on

the horizon but underway in tons of places. early in-person voting is underway now in virginia and illinois. if you are going to vote absentee this year instead of inside the polling booth, that's underway, too. nine other states you can start to drop your absentee ballots early and in person. pennsylvania, vermont, alabama, mississippi, delaware and minnesota. if you are freaked out of the integrity of this election and the likelihood of your vote being casted. everyone is planning their vote, figure out how you can get your vote in as early and quickly as you can. if receiveing your ballot in the

mail, do it right away. make a plan, who are you going with? what's your transportation plan? how are you going to keep safe in terms of covid? don't be afraid to over plan for this. you may get stuck in line. plan for it. plan for there being a line. expect it and don't let it surprise you. don't make it something that cause oes other plans to fall around it and potentially make you leave the line and risk not getting the vote in this year. we have seen long lines for in-person early voting already including in virginia. trump supporters showing up on mass to intimidate voters at fairfax county.

we have seen long lines and people are not intimidated. they keep on turning out. people voted two hours in illinois today to vote. where ever you are going to vote, whether or not you had to contend a line before, there may be a line this year. bring something to sit on if you are going to be in line for a long time. bring snacks or water or a mask for yourself or an extra mask or two in case somebody else forge forgets theirs. dress comfy and bring a jacket. go with frepiends and family. over plan. if you have over plaplanned you send me a hate mail. i will accept your hate mail at the time. for a third straight day today, the president shows his cards in terms of what he thinks he can do with all the news being this

bad against him. a third straight day he talked openly about what he thinks is his only options in this circumstances where everything is going against him. remember the polling really does seemed like this and looks like a story of a one-term president. in the face of what looks like a losing reelection effort with each passing day, it is more unequivocal that it is a losing effort by the president. for the third day today the president says the election is not legitimate. it is not a real election and it is a fraud. after last night when he said getting rid of the ballots and there would not be a transfer of power, there would be a continuation of power because he got rid of the ballots.

after those unbelieverabable remarks, republicans issued some mild refute insisting that of course we'll have a peaceful transfer of power and don't ask me more about it in more details. the real key is to watch not just what they are saying but what the administration is doing. news on that front today as well, we learned that part of what they are doing is that the justice department bizarrely started hyping the risks of mail-in ballots specifically in pennsylvania, just like the president and attorney general bill barr hyping fears of voting to try to cast out of the election overall. there were some scandal involving mail-in ballots.

it was all very weird. david laufman saying online today "this is both bizarre and disturbing, u.s. attorney's offices don't issue reports on pending investigations and certainly not reports so contrived to provide political ballast for a sitting president's campaign narrative." but this is what they're going with. this is what they have got. this is the way the president is going to continue to talk about the election and what he expects of the administration and i

guess the justice department to fall in line with in terms of trying to make americans believe that the election does not matter this year. the real news and the real polls are real bad for the president right now. he does not want to lose. so now we are in it. the president and the administration including the justice department increasingly the republican party are all getting on board with the strategy to essentially not run for reelection but to run against the election to say the votes are all fraudulent and accounts does not matter and let's all decide in courts. that seems to be what they are settling on and what they are going on. adding to the president's bad day today. he did get a shove back today, a hard shove back today.

> >> what i am going to talk about is something in my wildest dreams, that's to make certain that the president of the united states if he loses this election will abide by the will of the voters and leave office peacefully. this is not just an election between donald trump and joe biden. this is an election between donald trump and democracy and democracy must win. let us be very clear, there is nothing in our constitution or in our laws that gives donald trump the privilege of deciding whether or not he'll step aside if he loses. the united states, the president does not determine who can or can't vote and what ballots

could be counted. that may be what his friend, putin, does in russia or other countries but it is not and will not be done in america. this is a democracydemocracy, n how rich or narcissistic you may be. let me make this clear, too many people have fought and died to defend american democracy and you are not going to destroy it. the american people will not allow that to happen. to my republican colleagues in congress, please do not continue

to tell the american people how much you love america if you are not prepared to stand up to defend american democracy and our way of life. stop the hypocrisy. in this unprecedented moment, what can we do in the struggle to preserve american democracy. it is absolutely imperative that we have by far far largest voter turn out in america's history and people vote as early as possible. as someone who strongly supports joe biden, a landslide victory for biden will make it impossible for trump to deny the r results and is our best being to defend our democracy. the american people no matter what their political view, must make it clear that american democracy will not be destroyed. our country from its inception

and through the sacrifices of millions has been a model to the world with regard to representatives government. in the midst of the terrible war, abraham lincoln, stated this government quote "of the people, by the people, for the people shall not parish from the earth." that was true then, that's true today. regardless of what donald trump wants, the american people will preserve democracy in our country. >> senator bernie sanders of vermont today giving his first major speech since leaving the race six months ago. as you saw there he's making a clear point with it.

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it has been five months since senator bernie sanders ended his presidential campaign. today is his first public address. in that speech, senator sanders warned of the president. >> it is terribly important that we listen and take seriously what donald trump is saying. a president who's a pathological liar, who has strong authoritarian tendency, in trump's mind, there is no conceivable way that he should

leave office. he wants to defund the postal service in order to limit the use of mail-in ballots. he urged supporters in carolina to vote twice. trump wants his supporters some of whom are members of malicious to intimidate voters. trump may announce he won the election before all the votes are counted. the united states, the president does not determine who can or can not vote and what ballots will be counted. not may that may be what his friend, putin, does but it will not be done in america. this is an election between donald trump and democracy. democracy must win. >> democracy must win. senator bernie sanders' first

major public speech today since the presidential race five months ago. he plans the next six weeks until election day urging the country to prepare for a "nightmare scenario" which trump declares the winner of the election regardless of the results and refuses to step down. joining me now, i am happy to say senator sanders, i am so happy to have you here tonight. thank you for making your time. >> thank you, rachel. >> i played a whole bunch of your speech because i thought it was important. can you talk about your decision to give the speech and the urgency you feel about it? >> rachel, i am worried and have been worried for a long time that we have a president who will refuse to leave office if he loses the election.

i believe we have to listen carefully to what he says. i know people out there are thinking he says this or that. he's crazy. take him seriously. he says he's not leaving the presidency if he loses the election. he says the only way that he can possibly lose is the election is rigged and no other way. if that's what he believes and loses, that means the election is rigged and that means he's not going to leave office. he's mounting a massive assault on so-called voter fraud. only problem study after study have shown we have no voter fraud in the united states. that's something his attorney general confirmed today, b benjamin ginsburg, the lead

republican election official during the 2000s recount in florida. why is trump doing all of this? here is the answer. for whatever reason and we don't have to discuss why. it turns out republicans are more likely to walk into a polling booth than democrats. democrats are more likely to use mail-in ballots. what could very well happen is on election night, you are sitting there moderating the show, it appears that trump is winning in michigan and wisconsin and florida, oh my god, trump is ahead. at 10:00 at night, trump announces i won the election. by the way, my attorney general has told me this massive fraud with the mail-in ballots. we got to stop counting those

ballots, thank you america, i won, have a good night. then the mail-in ballots keep coming in and trump's lead disappears and biden becomes the lead and you will have massive chaos and conspiracy theories. >> senator, what do you think is the challenge of leadership, both for joe biden and his campaign but also for other leaders and other elected officials in trying to overt that nightmare, describing it in advance and the signs that you see coming certainly is the subconscio subconsciously needed. what do you think he's going to do? >> rachel, i mentioned in my speech that i am sick and tired of hearing republicans tell us how much they love america. well, if they love america, they

love american democracy and now is the time for them to stand up in a force full way. will republicans do that? some may. but, i have my doubts. no matter how they vote, they'll demand every vote is counted. >> senator, over the next less than six weeks now, i know you said you are going to do everything in your power to overt this nightmare scenario. i know this remark and speech today was part of it. what else should we be on the look out from you over the next

five and a half weeks in. you obviously still command incredible support and loyalty from all the people who worked on your presidential campaign and supported you through that and see a leader of the progressive movement in this country who does not have any peers in that regard. what are you asking people who respects you and likes you to do. >> we are working hard to see biden wins. we held 12 virtual town meetings. i suspect on the campaign trail as best as we can given the pandemic as soon as i can. i think all of us have got to do and i say that republicans are watching. i know you are not going to vote for biden or trump, okay. stand up. if you are a veteran, you fought and put your life on the line to defend the constitution of the united states. now is the time to demand that

constitution be respected and adhere to. one of the things, it may sound strange to people, i am going to reach out to republicans. we disagree on everything. but, i hope that you respect the constitution. people like benjamin ginsburg or dan coats, he's trump's former republican senator, conservative guy, former intelligence director under trump and he said we need a bipartisan commission to oversees this election so people have faith in this democracy. we have to reach out to those folks as well. >> senator bernie sanders, it is great to see you. thank you so much for making the time. it is good to have you here. >> thank you very much. >> all right, much more ahead, stay with us. >> all rightmu, ch more ahead, stay with us ( ♪ )

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this is day two of justice

ruth bader ginsburg lying at the repo repose at supreme court. vice president joe biden and his wife will pay their respects at justice ruth bader ginsburg at the capitol tomorrow. next week she will be buried. the outpouring mourners have turned out and their raw emotions of their tribute has been pretty remarkable to see. mothers and daughters hugging and marking this moment, little kids dressed up in black robes and laced collar. folks lining the steps. today president trump visited the court to pay his respects and people who were there

chanted him, "vote him out" and they chanted "honor her request," her dying wish was her place not to be filled until a new president is installed. >> jonining us is michael beslosch. >> thank you, rachel. >> what are the things we should be thinking right now in terms of justice ginsburg passing. what about this is unprecedented and yet again this is another time we are over using that word. >> well, number one, we heard bernie sanders, great interview, i hope all of our friends are listening. we are endanger of losing our

democracy tonight. one way it may happen is the supreme court. donald trump the last couple of days have said and contested the election may come to the court. we know now he's secretly meeting with various possibilities and what is he telling them in secret? can i depend on your loyalty? is he asking those candidates, can i depend on your loyalty and if i can't of the time of contesting, maybe you are not getting the seat. i guess thinki >> i guess thinking of a precedent on a legal contex context -- and then almost immediately that justice is called upon to adjudicate some sort of case that's going to determine whether or not this

president gets a second term. would you expect that justice being installed to recuse from that kind of a case? >> absolutely. in july of 1974 because he had been under the nixon's justice department. a new justice rushed into office if that happens after a rush process including mitch mcconnell demanding barack obama there is no court appointments for the last 11 months of his administration and lincoln, and lbj were framed to do anything. if the supreme court decides this and the deciding vote is a new justice making some kind of hidden promise to donald trump, that'll be the most illegitimate of all. >> michael, watching the news over the last few days, there

has been a little genuine freak out of the president's remarks that the election by definition right now in advance before we know what any results are, it is illegitimate and the ballots need to be stopped and ballots are out of control and there won't be a transition of power and there will be a continuation of power. he's going to get rid of the ballots. there has been a sort of genuine freak out of the president crossing a lot of new lines with this kind of rhetoric particularly close to the election. did any president played with this kind of fire and talking about the election as something that ought to be disregarded? >> nothing remotely similar. you want to go into history looking for something like this? go to italian history and look at moussilini. he's telling you what he intends to do. we got to make sure the next 5.5

weeks and after that we do not get into a situation just as what the senator was saying that donald trump announces he won and puts us in a situation where our democracy is being stolen minute by minute. this is not a drill. roosevelt said in 1940 at the time of hitler never before james town and plymouth rock as american civilization being in this kind of danger, we are approaching that point tonight. >> michael beschloss, i have never said anything like this before. thank you for being here. >> thank you. stay well, rachel. we need you. >> oh man. this is not a drill and says, we need you. i am going to taken extra long break, i will be back sometimes in the next few days. back some in the next few days in san diego, california. we've had a ton of obstacles in finding ways

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last spring the cdc issued a weird very un-cdc like report following a report at a meat packing plant. it was released april 22nd that described how they could take steps to protect its workers but only where feasible and if possible. cdc doesn't write reports like that. what we discovered is one day offer that was issued, the cdc scientist working on that had actually issued a different, stronger report telling smithfield how to handle that outbreak in no uncertain terms. for months we have been trying to get our hands on that report, the real one that cdc scientists first issued before they were told to replace it with this weird, watered down version. this week we got that report and multiple sources confirmed to us was that the whole reason this happened was because of d.c., robert redfield, which forced the change which made the

scientists rescind their report and turn in this watered down mess instead. well, yesterday, the cdc director was asked about it in congress. he said it was changed in order to make it clear, quote, that cdc is not a regulatory agency. he said that's why the language in the report was weakened, why smithfield was told to take certain measures where they wanted to, where feasible. i'm glad he is trying to explain what happened here now. but with all due respect, that explanation doesn't make any sense. the cdc isn't a regulatory agency, but it never has been. it wasn't before covid. it hasn't been since then. there was no change about that that would cause the cdc to suddenly start pulling its punches and watering down its recommendations specifically for this one meat packing plant. nothing about cdc changed. why did that thing that's always been true about cdc result in dramatic changes to this one cdc

product? it just doesn't sit right. neither did this. >> did your office have any contact with smithfield foods or the u.s. department of agriculture or the white house concerning specifically this memo before it was edited? >> no, not at that time. >> no, not at that time. you know, that answer strikes me as weird because cdc has acknowledged, actually, that dr. redfield did speak with sunny purdue on the very same day that cdc scientists for worsed to take back their initial report and replace it with the bad one. here is what a cdc official said about that april 22nd conversation in an e-mail. they said, quote, to the extent that they have discussed the smithfield report, the content of that discussion would be

considered predecisional. meaning, you're not going to be able to get access to the content of their conversation. there is no denial there that redfield and purdue spoke about the memo that day, the day that redfield's office called those cdc scientists and told them to take back that report. so there is still a lot we don't know here, but thankfully some powerful people are on it. she still has questions about the cdc director's communications about this. her friends on the house side and the house education and labor committee which shared the original version of the report with us, something tells me they're not going to let this one go either. for the sake of the cdc, we should hope that none of them let it go. watch this space. knowing who we are is hard. it's hard. eliminate who you are not first, and you're going to find yourself where you need to be. ♪

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that's going to do it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it is time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> now that people are paying attention to the united states senate and its role in the confirmation process, it is a pretty good time i think to remind voters they have a chance to change what the senate looks like. they have not elected a democrat for the senate since i think 1996. we have time to check that before he gets here. and he's