good morning, it is sunday, september 27th and i'm ali velshi, live in pueblo, colorado, at velshi across america 2020. each sunday leading up to election day, november 3rd, i'm on the road from cities and cunes across the country. i started the series in minneapolis, minnesota and kenosha, wisconsin that helps cement the re-election strategy. colorado was in the spotlight for much of last year after 23-year-old elijah mcclain died after being restrained by police in nearby aurora. now unlike minneapolis and kenosha, pueblo has not been the center of a nationwide move. but it is a battleground politically. it is fairly split down the middle. hillary clinton won colorado in 2016 but lost pueblo by 390

votes out of 80,000 cast. it is a microcosm of america, a melting pot and more than half of the population is hispanic or latino. the seal is a kong glomeration of five flags, one for each country or territory that has had dominion over the territory. france, mexico, texas, spain and the united states of america. now during the pandemic colorado has not been on the spotlight as many as other states but that may change as colorado is now one of seven states to see the daily infection rates rise by 60% over the last [ no audio ] now where i am now is the scene of chili tesfest.

to come and roast chilies and people buy them. it is reopened in a smaller fashion and in an hour you'll see people setting up. president trump has made this central to his re-election strategy. >> to fulfill one of most highest and important duties under the united states constitution, the nomination of a supreme court justice. [ applause ] this is my third such nomination. today it is my honor to nominate one of our nation's most brilliant and gived legal minds to the supreme court, she is a woman of unparalleled achievement, towering intellect, sterling credentials and

unyielding loyalty to the constitution, judge amy coney barrett. it is going to be very quick. i'm sure it will be extremely noncontroversial. we said that the last time, didn't we? >> now the hearing schedule is expected to begin with opening statements on october 12th. that is a super aggressive turnaround of only 16 days from nomination to debating of the hearing. the last three nominations, kagen, gorsuch and kavanaugh took two months before the hearing began and mitch mcconnell didn't do anything to fill the vacancy of scalia nine full months before the election because barack obama was up for election. and chuck shum echumer addresset

yesterday. >> to replace her with amy coney barrett, would would undo almost everything that ruth bader ginsburg has done and to ignore her dying wish that the next president select the nominee is so wrong. the disgraceful process by which this was done. mitch mcconnell and donald trump have stolen two judges from the american people. judge ginsburg had a dying wish that the next president choose. justice ginsburg must be turning over in her grave up in heaven to see that the person they chose is intent on undoing all of the things that ginsburg did. >> the biden campaign announced that former vice president joe biden will deliver his own remarks on the nomination of journal amy coney barrett later today and that speech is expected to start around 12:15 p.m. eastern and we'll bring it to you live when it happens.

everything i covered is part of a long list of reasons as to why i'm traveling across the country to visit places like pueblo. more than any other time in modern history you're voice and your vote matters more than ever. joining me now is the slate senior editor and legal correspondent dahlia lithwick who spent time covering the supreme court and even justice ginsburg praised her writing as, quote, spicy. and her latest piece went ignored and the first sentence indeuces the other members of our panel, president and ceo of the national constitution center jeff rosen, a professor at the george washington law school and a friend of justice ginsburg and author of the book "conversations with rbg on life, love, liberty and law." thank you for being with us. dahlia lithwick, we're talking to people this morning and talking for the last day and a half about what to do in the

face of this turnaround by mitch mcconnell who didn't think nine months before an election was enough time to put in a supreme court justice and now thinks that 38 days is enough. there are people who are saying, who are asking, can democrats do anything about this? >> good morning, ali. as a tactical matter there is just not a lot that democrats could do right now. there are some advocates of democrats not going to the hearings whatsoever, just refusing to in any way bless a process that they see as fundamentally unfair. there is a lot of talk of using little parliamentary tricks to drag it out. this doesn't seem that that is the direction that democrats want to take but in terms of what the next step is, i think the next step is just reminding folks, 63% of americans do not want to see this rushed before

the election just so the judge who is seated can, as donald trump has said, put a thumb on the scale for him when there is an election challenge. so i think making that clairy an call four years ago you said let the people decide and now the people are say we don't want this. this has to be the substance of what happens going forward. >> jeff rosen, you and i talked about this last weekend. i've been speaking to voters, one said when i think of the supreme court, i think nine. and that is the number it should stay at. and if the democrats end up taking both the presidency and the senate, they should expand the size of the supreme court. what is the precedent on expanding the size of the supreme court and how is it that we end up with nine supreme court justices? >> good morning, ali, and dahlia, too. so the number nine was fixed in

19 -- sorry in 1836. the court was six justices and another two justices added, one in 1837. and then a huge court packing battle around the time of the civil war and the number expanded to ten in 1863 to give lincoln a majority to uphold his legislation. then when andrew johnson got in, they reduced the court by two seats in 1866 to prevent johnson from making any appointments and after johnson was out in 1869 it went back up to nine and stayed there ever since. so what this shows us and it is important to look to history right now, these partisan battles over the supreme court especially in polarized times and we're more polarized than any time since the civil war and they could result in parties playing tit-for-tat and expand further and you may be on a nuclear spiral that could really

imperil the legitimacy of the court for a long time to come. >> dahlia, what is your take on it? >> i agree with jeff. i think while there definitely has to be some kind of conversation going forward about how we don't allow the court to become a football or whoever controls the senate, whether that happens by way of jurisdiction stripping or by way of limiting judicial terms so they're not lifetime terms, there is a whole bunch of structural reform proposals out there of which one of them is adding seats to the judiciary but i agree with jeff that a conversation about that shouldn't happen in the heat of battle right now. because i think that it is absolutely true that the court is just about on the brink of a legitimacy crisis in the eyes of the american public that could not be more damaging at a time when their trust in the other

branches of government are already so low. >> jeff, obviously voters generally speaking are not like you and dahlia, not experts and scholars on it. but what i enjoyed with my conversations with voters yesterday evening is i asked them what the supreme court meant to them and each one of the six voters i spoke to had a personal reason for determining the importance of the supreme court. one of my -- one of the voters was indigenous american and one was a former undocumented immigrant, another was african-american, one was from cuba, and a business woman felt that protection of private property and her business, is education around the united states constitution and the supreme court, who would you tell people if somebody came in from mars and said what is so important about the supreme court, what would your answer be. >> it is wonderful that you're

traveling around the country and talking about the effect of the court on them. that is so much in the spirit of justice ginsburg who cared about the effect of the court's decision on real people. she kept in touch with plaintiffs in the gender discrimination cases for her decisions were not abstractions but they have real effects on real people. so the best thing that voters could do to educate themselves is learn about the constitution. learn about the great cases and see what the effects are. and i have to give a plug, ali, for the great live classes on the constitution that appeared on with the constitution center just last week. they're three times a week at noon and 2:00, they're free for people learning at home and just by going online and picking an amendment and landmark cases and learning about their effects on real people and understanding the stakes in the battle because it is correct to say this is the most consequential vote, a 6-3 vote could change the constitution in substantial ways

that could affect people's lives and it is the job of voters and citizens to understand those in constitutional terms so they could decide what they think the constitution should mean. >> so here is your prep homework, read jeff rosen's work or dahlia lithwick and learn about this constitution that the supreme court is bound to uphold. thank you to both of you this morning. dahlia lithwick, from slate, jeffrey rosen is the president and the ceo of the national constitution center and author of "conversations with ruth bader ginsburg." coming up next, my wide-ranging conversation with colorado voters about what is motivating them to cast ballots this year. and i asked each of them for a recommendation hon how they woud help mend a nation that is so divided. here is a dip from democratic vote gale devore. >> i think that the number one

thing that has to happen immediately is to get off social media. it is not news. people are not experts because they saw a meme that attributed ab ham lincoln said to put your phone down. there are new sources that are actually fact built and that is why we need to begin to educate ourselves and understand what the issues are. the issues are

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fine jewellery for yourself. (snap) we're mejuri, the new luxury. today i'm hitting the third stop on velshi across america 2020 tour. i'll travel to a different battleground state every sunday leading up to election day to speak with voters about how they're voting in the election and why. and today i'm in pueblo, colorado. a rather industrial town in the sentenal state that went for hillary clinton in 2016. yesterday i held a socially distant conversation at the pueblo arts centers with three registered democrats, two republicans and one unaffiliated voter which is similar to an independent. we covered a variety of topics in the hour or so we spent together and i started about asking each who they are voting for and why.

take a look. >> i'm going to start right in front of me. i want to ask you, who you're voting for and why? >> i'm voting the biden/harris ti ticket. it is time for this administration to be gone. >> succinct, thank you. >> who are you voting for and why. >> i'm voting for the trump/pence team because everything he's accomplished with the media and the democratic party against him and all of the accomplishments thus far, i'm looking forward to the next four years. >> thank you. who are you voting for and why? >> i am voting for the biden/harris ticket. i am having a great need for preserving health care and working on prescription medication pricing. and i know that pence -- i'm sorry, i know that biden and harris can do it. and so that is where i'm putting my energy. >> thank you.

who are you voting for and why? >> i'm voting for biden/harris as someone who works with immigrants daily i know how much we bring to the country and what four years could do to attack legal immigration so i would be voting for biden. >> thank you. marla. >> i'll be voting for president trump and vice president pence. he's kept the promises he's made and he's been honest and truthful with the american people and count on him to keep doing more of the same. >> thank you. >> i'm voting for the biden/harris ticket to take action on the housing and climate crisis and we need criminal justice and immigration reform. >> thank you very much. let me ask you a few specific questions. you said something about immigration. you have a personal experience with immigration? >> yes. i am an immigrant. i was born in mexico. i came here when i was 2 years old. i was undocumented until about

five years ago and i got my green card and now my citizenship and i'm an immigration attorney so i work with immigrants daily. >> you said something that caught my attention because i'm a member of the media. you said something about the media in this role as it relates to the trump administration. feel free to give me your honest thoughts. >> quite honestly, my family was concerned about my well being coming here and giving my opinion. i feel that he's up against a media that has their minds made up that he's not good for this country. i myself come from immigrant parents, i'm third generation, my parents have to flee radical communism to provide a better life for us and so that is why i'm against the left agenda. >> are you really concerned about socialism and communism in america? >> yes. >> tell me a bit more about that. >> watching everything, the way that it is rolling out, not having an ability to speak your opinion, fearing to come out here and saying that i'm a trump

campaign supporter, fearing the ability to put a trump sign on my lawn for fear of being judged for not being able to speak or have a voice that the way that was intended to in this country. >> thank you for coming here and i hope by the time you leave here there is to fear. you talked about prescription drugs. tell me about how you think about it. >> i have had type one diabetes for going on 50 years. and insulin pricing as we all heard on the news is out of control. trump has signed numerous executive orders supposedly controlling the cost of insulin, but those are -- they're hot air. he doesn't have the legal ability to do anything about it. while our man joe biden does. he understands, he worked on the aca. he knows how to get things done and i'm counting on the price of insulin and other medications

for chronic illness to be brought down in the next few years. otherwise more people will die. >> did the affordable care act help you in your particular situation? >> the affordable care act helped me tremendous in terms of pre-existing conditions. i was uninsurable prior to the affordable care act. and right now with the a.c.a. being heard at the supreme court, and trump also promising there is going to be a replacement, although no expert, there has been no negotiating, nothing has happened for us to believe that there is a replacement. whereas joe biden worked through the a.c.a. before and he understands the ins and outs of it and i believe if it does get repealed, we have a great chance of coming back strong with a real plan. >> eyian, tell me what is motivating you this election season. >> i think the housing and

climate crisis are intertwined and it go into the conversation about covid. latinos and black people across the country and indigenous people leave in counties with ozone issues with long-term exposure to particles that are linked to the exploitation and exploration of fossil fuels. so like i was just hearing, covid has taken you out because you have a heart or a lung condition but why do we have that because of systemic long standing environmental racism, period stop. and i see the same problem when it comes to housing, 40% of people who are unhoused are black. these are cascading effects that are affecting all of us. >> what are you thinking. >> i'm an unaffiliated voter, which is the same as an independent voter here in the state of colorado. i'm a military veteran and i finished aft

finished desert storm and i've been seeing the way this administration shows up in commander-in-chief and with respect to not only active duty personnel but with respect to the way the military veterans are treated after the war. and i've been wholly disappointed that this administration has yet to respond to the russian bounties on american heads in the middle east, i stand proudly as one of the suckers and losers who decided to volunteer for service to this country. i served honorably and i continue to serve honorably in my community. i take exception to every word he uttered in helsinki. i think that when we start talking about our national defense, and the briefing that he got earlier this year, with respect to covid and how it was going to affect this nation, to stand now here with more than 200,000 dead and for citizens to

be fighting with one another over what dead really means, if your stage four cancer and you cross sante fe and get hit by a truck, the truck killed you. you had cancer but the truck took you out and we have got to have a different discussion about how national defense is being executed in this country and the respect for those of us who volunteered to serve. for me that is the primary concern, we aren't safe nationally. we don't know how unsafe we are but we're not safe with this administration, period, full stop. >> it was a great discussion and you're going to hear more of it was those colorado voters in the next hour. colorado is known for the vast natural forest but the wilderness hides something frightening, climate change. it is threatening the state and the quality of the people. why this election is so important to the planet. t to th.

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you suggested that roe is not a super precedent because litigants continue to challenge it. in reevaluating why did you solely focus on the fact that roe has been challenged by litigants on so many occasions and not on the fact that the supreme court has repeatedly reaffirmed roe in literally dozens of decisions. >> one thing i would observe is for court of appeals, all supreme court precedent is super precedent. so as i said to chairman grassley, as a court of appeals judge if confirmed, i would follow all supreme court precedent without fail. >> that is ranking member dianne feinstein questioning amy coney barrett for the circuit court of appeals. he said as an appeals court judge she would be forced to uphold what is described as

super-precedent handed down by the supreme court but never mentioning her own views on those precedents. feinstein was getting to the heart of one of the most important issues likely to be brought up once again in this confirmation fight, roe v. wade and the right to privacy. but something stood out from the speech yesterday, something that could tell us all what we need to know about her views as a confirmed justice on the high court. >> i clerked for justice scalia more than 20 years ago, but the lessons i learned still resonate. his judicial philosophy is mine, too. a judge must apply the law as written. >> joining me now, fatima goss graves, president and ceo of the national women's law center and also co-founder of the times up legal defense fund and alexis mcgill johnson, president of the planned parenthood action fund. good morning to both of you. thank you for joining us.

fatima, let me start with you. both of you have been tweeting about the nomination that we were expecting that we got last night of amy coney barrett. fatima, you mentioned in one of your tweets that you mentioned that mitch mcconnell had paid half this attention to the coronavirus crisis as they are in getting this supreme court nominee confirmed before the election. >> yeah. they have taken historic steps to race to put this nominee through the judiciary committee. we have never seen anything like that. a plan to confirm something while people are voting in what is a month period. and at the same time we've been waiting for over five months for them to pass the heroes act to provide an extension of unemployment insurance to deal with the care crisis in this country for so many parents who are both working and home schooling right now. so we know when they have their priorities straight, that they

could do exactly what they want to do. and so on top of all of the other challenges that we have with this nominee, one of the things is that we know that the senate should be focused on something more important for this country. >> alexis, let's talk about women's reproductive rights. it comes up in the context of roe v. wade. but despite the fact that roe v. wade is the law, we have seen a number of challenges, we've seen a number of limitations on women's reproductive rights imposed by states and there are now 17 cases that in some fashion could end up at the supreme court all of which directly or indirectly challenge roe v. wade. >> yeah. you're absolutely right. roe is the floor, not the ceiling, because in many states we have a law on the books and write on the books and yet our ability to access that right is challenged but the number of bands and restrictions.

i think what is really important is reproductive health care is also health care and in addition to that 17 cases we also have the affordable care act on the line in this supreme court docket coming up. and we know where judge barrett sits on the a.c.a. she's been a vocal threat not only to reproductive rights but to the affordable care act broadly and those are the concerns that we have with almost 30 million people who could lose health insurance. and that is the fight and to fatima's good point, that is the fight the work senate should be focused on expanding health care not trying to take it away with this appointment. >> so i was talking to my voter guests about this yesterday afternoon, the way in which people should look at this supreme court nomination. and fatima, there is roe v. wade, that looms in the background of everyone's mind about what the supreme court can do. and then there are things like

affirmative action, plexy versus ferguson, and school integration. but on november 10th, to the point that you've made, on november 10th, the court will discuss the affordable care act. and this could go away. the remnants of obamacare that are left after the efforts by this administration to gut it could go away for 20 million americans. >> you know, even before we had the nominee, we knew that trump's nominee would go after the affordable care act and go after abortion. because that is what trump promised us. he said that is his litmus test for a judge. and on november 10th, a week after the collectio-- after the the case is before the supreme court. it does a range of things, like covering maternity care and preventative insurances and ensuring women don't have to pay more for health insurance simply because they are women dealing

with your health care rights and nondiscrimination and dealing with the key issue of pre-existing conditions. right now surviving coronavirus is a pre-existing condition. so there is so much on the line with this case and that is exactly why they're trying to rush this nomination through in a way that is so disconcerting and in a way that totally harms the supreme court itself. >> let me ask you, alexis, there are a number of people who feel, look, if the court strike down obamacare, but joe biden is president in the senate and has a democratic majority, they could rewrite the law as it should have been written in the first place, perhaps. does that apply to roe v. wade? ruth bader ginsburg always wishes that roe was a different case, that it was more affirmatively about a woman's right to control her body. can democrats fix that if roe

comes before the supreme court? >> well, look, let's talk about what happens if roe falls, it is over turned or guts, it will mean that essentially in some states people will have the ability to start and expand families when they decide it is right for them and in other states they will be forced into appreciati pregnancy because they don't have the resources to get access to an abortion. and that is really what the work of the federal -- our government will have to undertake, is considering in what ways it might actually create opportunities to fight their bands. i love what kamala harris has been talking about with respect to modeling preclearance around the vra, around some of the most restrictive bands around access to abortion. but we have to continue to build on the imagination.

again, roe is still the floor, not the ceiling and we need to make sure we do everything we can to defend access for everyone, for all americans. >> thank you this morning to both of you for joining us to give us more clarity on this. fatima goss graves from the national women's law center and co-founder of time's up legal defense fund and alexismill mcgill johnson from the planned parent action fund. up next i'll talk to the colorado attorney general about the successful voting in mailing about this state. i don't want to hear any excuses about getting your ballot because a nasa astronaut is going to cast her ballot from space. she'll be aboard the space station 200 miles above the earth on election day. that is out of town. they will forward her a secure ballot and relay it back to the count clerk in houston, texas, where rubens lives. and she still found time to plan her vote.

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and effectively. the state is a model example how well voting by mail can work with 3 or 4% of residents voting in person. you can vote in person if you want. the ease of voting by mail, however, led the state to have the sixth highest voter turnout in 2016. much of the state's success is due to the work lawmakers do making sure things run smoothly and voters can continue to feel comfortable voting by mail and one of those that's been leading the charge to make sure the upcoming election has the trust of the state's residents is the attorney general phil wiser good t . good to see you again. we talked last weekend because we talked last weekend because you clerked for ruth bader ginsburg, as you see what happened, a nominee to replace ruth bader ginsburg and efforts to begin the hearings within 15 or 16 days and then possibly confirm amy coney barrett before the election, your thoughts on that? >> i'm really concerned, ali.

we have to recognize the balance of the supreme court is at issue and we're looking at a nominee that appears to be considerably more conservative than not only chief justice roberts but even former justice scalia in a case she heard the second amendment provided felons with a constitutional rights to have access to firearms and in writing an opinion for the court rejected that. we in colorado rely on scalia's opinion to protect people. if you're a danger to yourself or others, you can have a firearm removed temporarily so others aren't killed because of your dangerousness. she can threaten red flags, roe versus wade and discussed on your program, the affordable care act. there is so much at stake with the senate's credibility and the future of the court and the

country. >> it's not clear what voters impact can have on that timeline. one of the things we've been discussing with officials in your state is the effectiveness of your vote by mail system in colorado. what happens when you hear the president consistently talking about the propensity for fraud, his own fbi says is just not true and you compare it to the way people vote in colorado? >> people need facts. we investigate referrals of potential voting fraud and they are essentially non-exist tablet to extraordinary rare. we have a great system that's been developed over time by republicans and democrats. everyone in our state will tell you it works. republicans and democrats. people get a ballot mailed to them. they can take their time. we call it vote at home because you're doing your voting at home and drop it off at a drop box, which 75% of people do or mail

it back. the idea the president would seek to undermine a our democracy is mind blowing. we have the model here, other states are following us by this pandemic. space, let them sit down with their kids and talk about issues and hand in the ballot or mail it back. it an ordinarily process. it's easy to use. this is what our nation should be doing. >> of the six voters i talked to yesterday, two were going to vote in person, i think three were going to drop their ballot in a ballot box and one was going to mail it in. the idea that there are different options, does it -- tell me how that affects turnout and participation. >> we have a very simple goal and this is the goal i would significa suggest every state should have considering democracy and participation depends on people being engaged. how do you make it easy for people? if you want to vote in person,

that's an option for you not just one day but a period of days. want to drop it in a drop box, do that. if mailing is the best way, do it. as long as you leave enough time for it to be counted. that's the goal to get information for people that can depend on a system and rely on. this administration hasn't supported us and we had to go to the court a couple times to defend our democracy here in colorado. >> one of the things donald trump talks about is the ability to commit fraud when voting with i impunity. what happens if somebody commits voter fraud? >> we can prosecute people. our office, whether petitioning fraud or voting fraud, we take it very seriously. our elections are a corner stone of our democracy. if there is true fraud, we'll do something about it. what people need to recognize is there are sauf guafeguards in p. the ballot gets mailed to the person who is a voter. if someone moves, our state

keeps track of that and doesn't mail the ballots out. we check the signature on file with the one sent back. we reject it and let the person know if they want to come in and try, they are able to do so. it not an easy thing with our vote at home system to commit fraud and if someone does for some reason, we'll go after them. >> colorado's attorney general phil wiser, good to speak to you two weeks in a row. thank you for being us and thank you for the great welcome to your state. >> we have brand-new polling from nbc news examining two major battle ground states plus i'll be joined by colorado secretary of state jenna grizwald and i'll check in with doug jones about the tough senate race he's in.

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september 27th. i'm ali velshi. we begin this hour with breaking news, brand-new polling in two major battle ground states. in michigan, the latest nbcmarist poll