♪ we start this hour with an absolutely jaw-dropping scene outside of walter reed medical hospital where the president is being treated for covid-19.

what we witnessed was shocking to watch, even for those of us who are used to this administration. here's how it went down. just before 6 p.m. eastern time the president released a new twitter video from inside the hospital thanking his followers for their support. here's a piece of that video. >> it's been a very interesting journey. i learned a lot about covid. i learned it by really going to school. this is the real school. this isn't a let's-read-the book school. i get it. i understand it. it's a very interesting thing. i'm going to let you know what i know about it. in the meantime, we love the usa thank you. >> the president got into a secret service suv packed full of people who presumably do not have the coronavirus. the motorcade was not on its way

to official business of any sort. it appears that president trump simply wanted tow wave to his supporters. >> reporter: here at rockville pike just behind me, there was the presidential motorcade. the president was visible inside that vehicle during that brief appearance. crowd here clearly very excited and enthusiastic about seeing the president, but this is really raising profound questions about about the approach of the white house to dealing with the president's illness and why they were taking the steps that clearly exposes people to more risk than is

absolutely necessary. it goes against cdc guidance. it goes against public health guidance as well. we've seen this piece of the president's playbook before many times where he does something surprising, shocking, even something he knows will outrage a lot of people. it allows him to drive the conversation and put things on his terms. it may be different this time. this has really hit home for republicans. you have the president and the first lady positive for coronavirus. you have governor chris christie in the hospital with coronavirus, multiple republican senators, the president's campaign manager and former campaign manager, all having contracted coronavirus in and around the white house in the last several weeks. we'll have to see whether this provokes a different time of reaction now that americans are realizing despite having this incredibly infectious disease, the president is taking steps that completely contradicts all

the public health guidance as our country has been dealing with this pandemic. >> let's bring in josh bennett, msnbc correspondent, jacqueline almani and dr. hath, emergency medical physician at columbia medical center. we also have michael mans. any additional reporting you have decision to what we just heard from josh about the white house's thinking, the president's thinking in taking this ride? >> yeah. what's remarkable here is how little we don't know about what head to t

led to the president's decision to have that spectacle, that drive-by. any presidential movement is tracked by the white house pool of reporters. that white house pool changed by day. they track every movement a president makes. it's important on a usual day, even more important on a day when the president of the united states is, let's be frank about it, hospitalized because he has covid-19. the white house pool was not given advanced notice he was going to make that trip. we found out much the way everyone else did when he tweeted that video. once the president left, twhaon that drive-by was over, we didn't know where he went. we didn't know if he went back to the white house, if he went back to walter reed. that was done by evading journalist, one. and two, just sort of the

reckless approach to that. spare a thought for the secret service agents who risk their lives day in and day out but had to unnecessarily risk their lives so the president could get the sort of adulation that he so desperately needs. >> can you add some color to what jeff just said, malcolm? >> yeah. there really is a ginormous bubble of people, processes, systems and protocols that surround the individual that is the president of the united states. when he moves from a secure location like, say, a hospital room where he's supposed to be in quarantine and he walks into the hallways and it's not to go get a cat scan and he steps into a secret service vehicle, the entirety of the u.s. defense system, the department of homeland security system cycles up and follows him.

if the press corps didn't know where he was moving, does the mobile communications team at the white house know he was going to move other than the fact that their command post vehicle was moving? did the secret service counter assault teams in the area really know he was moving with more than one or two moments' notice. and the entire nuclear command umbrella. do we have to scramble an aircraft to make sure there's enough command and control because the president of the united states is moving. there are nuclear security sites and other places which monitor the entire world. the president was obviously not thinking about that. he was thinking about a car parade. >> malcolm looks at this through the lens of national security

jeff looks at this as a journalist. from your purview as a medical expert, what comes to mind as you watch this video? >> i can speak not just for myself, but for all medical experts i've been speaking to. we are horrified. if any other patient in america who ishospitalized with coronavirus tried to leave their hospital room, would be restrained. the idea that the president went into an enclosed space and willfully put other people's lives at risk is short of criminally negligent. there are secret service officers in an enclosed space with no ventilation with an active covid patient. regardless of what job he has, what status he has, those men and women deserve the respect of their lives meaning something. >> clearly this was about perception. what was the message being telegraphed to the president's

fans and supporters? >> yeah. so i mean, obviously i think he's trying to convey strength, he's trying to convey that he is healthy enough to ride around and wave and show that he's going to beat this thing. i think this gets at something deeply embedded in this president's personality and in his psyche. this is a man who we've seen for years now feeds off the affection of his fans and almost needs that affection. i remember several years ago i interviewed trump before he ran for president. he was telling me about his celebrity friends who blow off people who are asking for autographs or whatever. he said he would never do that. he always makes time for his fans, because if they weren't around, that wouldn't be so nice for me. i think that we've seen over and over that he gets energy, he gets enthusiasm from being around those people. for a person leak that, the idea of quarantine is kind of a

nightmare, right? for everyone else who's covered all the other bases, as far as what we know about this man, it's not that surprising that he would at the first opportunity look for a chance to kind of go and surround himself with supporters. >> joe biden has been talking about the president's job performance on the pandemic all campaign. take a listen. >> he's too weak to beat the pandemic, costing more than $200,000 american lives, that's upended every part of our lives and hit working people particularly hard. your businesses are closed and schools aren't back to normal because donald trump hasn't done his job. >> how does what we just saw fit into this larger narrative that we're hearing from the biden campaign? >> it's an emblematic example of the president holding himself to a different standard than the

american people and, quite frankly, previous presidents, from how he deals with the white house press corps to the rest of the country. this has serious political ramifications. i hate to talk about this through a political lens, because it is a matter of life and death. i'm not sure that people who know or have family members of the 200,000 who have already died appreciate this being talked about in these lens. but a number of campaign advisors that i spoke with over the weekend and throughout this whole ordeal liken this situation to the access hollywood tapes, that this is going to dramatically hit trump's numbers. he dropped ten points from the debate. a source on the campaign told me today he expects that joe biden's lead will actually increase another two to three points. again, this president has a

highly contagious disease and he is out holding a north korean-esque military motorcade parade to appease his supporters. it's clear the president views this through a political lens and not the public health crisis that it is. >> some of the treatments the president is receiving could affect his behavior. take a listen. >> i mean, this is evidence that his behavior, his treatment course is not being directed by his doctors. there's no doctor that would say, now is the time for a joyride around the hospital, you should remain put, you should remain in isolation. it makes me sick to see him in close quarters with the others in that car, who need to go into quarantine right now. i'll also say, when we put patients on high-dose steroids like that, we monitor them closely because there's a host of side effects including impact on their mental health and

decision-making. you could see delirium or psychosis. you are not yourself. >> do you agree? >> i agree. the other thing she didn't include is we know there are neurological complications to the coronavirus infection itself. we have seen acute psychosis, delirium and depression all as a result of the actual infection. right now as an acutely infected individual, it is unbelievable that the president seems to be directing his own clinical care and when it is he leaves isolation, remembering that millions of americans have literally sat in isolation rooms by themselves, with hundreds of thousands dying alone in hospital rooms. this is not the time for the president to take a joyride around the hospital. >> jeff, the big question here, the question that has been the question for the last 48 hours is, do you feel you are getting accurate information from this white house about the president's condition? >> in a word, no.

i think what's most egregious about this is that the state health department officials who need accurate information in order to do the contact tracing, following all of the president's various travels during the past week leading up to his covid diagnosis, they too, according to my reporting, aren't getting the accurate information that they need. the governor of ohio, republican governor, by the way, not that it should make a difference, but apparently in this era it does. republican governor mike dewine says he's heard nothing from the white house about contact tracing, given that the president was in cleveland at that debate. just today new jersey health officials finally got the information they've been demanding for at least a couple of days so they could contact trace the 200 people who were in that room in that space with

president trump for that high-dollar fund-raiser. he went there knowing that hope hicks had tested positive. we learned from dr. conley that the president was exhibiting symptoms of covid at least as early as thursday afternoon. so it's not just the white house physician who chose not to level with the american people yesterday. we found out today it was because he wanted to sort of match the messaging from the president's political team, as if that's what the american people come to expect or deserve from a white house physician. it's also that the state health officials who desperately need contact information to make sure that the people who were exposed to the president and other white house officials who were in those states, so those people can take care of themselves so this doesn't necessarily exponentially balloon into a bigger crisis than it already is. >> malcolm, what does that lack of transparency that jeff is describing there mean for america's national security? >> certainly none of our allies can feel confident that they

know what the president of the united states is doing or thinking. they don't know whether he is in a stable state. they don't know whether he is in an unstable state. they can't rely on anything that they see in the news media, because as we've seen today, he deliberately misleads the news media, he leaves the press pool behind. to tell you the truth, the people who probably have the greatest and most accurate picture of what he's doing in his mind is probably the russian embassy on wisconsin avenue because his white house uses unsecure phones and they leak like a sieve. he's out there communicating with mark meadows, melania trump, people in his inner circle. they probably have the information that we don't have. these people don't take national security very seriously. they take politics seriously. that doesn't mean that it's going to work out for any of us.

>> let's not forget there is a covid relief package on capitol hill. there's a conversation about a supreme court justice. how does this complicate everything that's supposed to be the focus on capitol hill right now? >> for one thing, there have been a number of lawmakers who have also contracted this virus in the midst of this outbreak and it's raised questions about whether with all the republican senators who have gotten sick and are not going to be able to be on the hill for at least a little while, republicans in congress are going to be able to push forward with the nomination, for example, of amy coney barrett. the relief package is a concern also. some of these things can be handled virtually. the senate in particular have been doing some of their hearings virtually. but i don't think we necessarily know that we've seen the end of which lawmakers have gotten sick. obviously democrats on the hill are calling for a postponement

of at least the confirmation hearings until they can get past these illnesses. so there are a lot of question marks aside and apart from the president's health that impact the american people, and i think we're still seeing that cascading effect play out. >> all right. josh mckay, jacqueline and dr. cass, thank you so much. coming up, the president may still be getting treatment by the time his vice president makes the debate stage. how his diagnosis will affect this week's debate. good evening to you. some of the stories we're following for you, tomorrow marking the first time in 17 years the supreme court will begin a term without justice ruth bader ginsburg. her seat on the bench will be draped in black as the eight remaining justices begin hearing cases. case topics include obamacare

and mail-in voting. crews are starting to get the fire in napa valley under control. that fire is 15% contained. it's burned 60,000 acres and hundreds of homes. the patriots and chiefs play tomorrow night after tonight's game was postponed. two players tested positive for coronavirus including cam newton, who will not play. s inc newton, who will not play.

welcome back to "american voices," we continue to follow the latest on the president's health as he gets treatment for covid-19. the president left walter reed this evening to wave at cameras outside the hospital. it was a surprise departure. his doctor spent a second day talking around important questions from the press about the president's health. they would not give specifics on the president's oxygen level. they spent part of today cleaning up yesterday's mess and defending themselves from accusations that they aren't telling the whole story about the president's condition. >> i was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team,

the president has had. i didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of the illness in another direction and in doing so came off that we were trying to hide something, which wasn't necessarily true. the effect of the matter is that he's doing really well. he is responding. if everything continues to go well, we're going to discharge him back to the white house. >> the president is still on the job while inside the hospital. the president was briefed by mike pompeo and the joint chief this afternoon. mike pence tested negative for coronavirus for the second time as he prepares to face kamala harris in their only debate. yes, despite the exposure, the vice president debate will go on as scheduled wednesday night in salt lake city. there will be a few changes. senator harris and vice

president pence will be seated 12 feet apart. the two will be seated which is the preference of the trump's campaign. i want to bring in cecile and kristine acosta. principle of fenway strategies. she was formerly a policy writer and speech advisor for secretary clinton's 2016 campaign. thank you both so much for being with us. lauren, ordinarily, these vice president debates are sort of a do no harm scenario. given the fact the first presidential debate went off the rails with chaos sewn by the president that would end up

being the last presidential debate, it would seem to me that this vice president debate now the takes are much higher. >> thank you for having us on. there is certainly no shortage of news to talk about this week. i think one thing to keep in mind is that we are going to see something different this week during the vice president debate. aside from the chaos, this is a chance for kamala harris continue to make her case to the american people. this is a chance for her to speak directly to the concerns and anxiety that people are experiencing. i think we should be prepared for the feedback that we know vice president pence is a strong debater. we saw it four years ago. we know his style is different from president trump. he's certainly less prone to political stunts, to being bombastic. despite the fact that he

presents himself as a polite americ midwesterner, his policies are just as dangerous as president trump's. he's someone that stood by the president the last four years. he's someone that the president put in charge of our country's response to this pandemic which has been a failure of catastrophic proportions. one example of my home state of wisconsin had yet another record breaking day of new covid cases. every single one of those cases is one that could have and should have been prevented. that's something that vice answer for in the debate this week. joe biden reminded us last week that this is not about joe biden or donald trump. it is about the millions of people all over our country who are struggling and that's who we can expect to see kamala harris speak directly to on that debate. >> christina, i am told you are the debate prep guru.

pull back the curtain for us and give us a sense a way a candidate prepares for this debate and how much news of the day shapes and reshapes one's approach to these debates. >> thank you for having us on even if we have to make it virtual. at this point in the debate prep cycle, i would expect senator harris to be very firm in the affirmative case that she wants to make to the american people and very much prepare for anything that could come up in the debate on tuesday. certainly events like the president announcing at 1:00 in the morning on friday that he's been diagnosed with coronavirus can shake things up and they have shaken things up in the past.

four years ago we were in the debate with hillary clinton when the "access hollywood" tape dropped before what was the second debate of secretary clinton and donald trump. the team will be minimal. i am certain that senator harris will be able to handle anything that vice president pence throws her way. he's an experienced debater. he's a little bit of a slippery figure because unlike the president, you know, does not seem to be making outlandish statement. he has a much more mild manner about him, but he certainly knows how to lie with a smile on his face, and i fully expect that we will see that sort of behavior from him on tuesday. it will be up to senator harris to keep him honest. >> a quick question. it is on my mind that they're going to be seated and that was

a request of the trump campaign. how do decisions like that factor into a debate like this? >> it's debated between the campaigns and the network. it is actually not that unusual for the vice president to be seated. it was seated four years ago and when vice president biden and representative paul ryan debated in 2012. they're just normally seated at the same table. so it can have normally a more friendly quality to it. so it will be interesting to see what the stage looks like on tuesday. >> it struck me coming out of the democratic primary where there was so much gender/racial/ethnic diversity on stage there to see the presidential debate where there was not.

there is going to be at this vice president debate of a first time a woman of color on that stage, how did it change the dynamic of the debate like this? >> i hope having senator harris on that stage will shine a spotlight on the role of women in this election and especially women of color. in 2016 we saw a historic gender gap and we are on track to surpass that this year. that's because women and especially women of color are the ones who are bearing the brunt of this administration's failure to put it bluntly. there are nurses and frontline workers putting their lives at risk. they're teachers trying to keep a class of second graders engaged on zoom, which is a task i would not envy anybody. they're moms who are trying to take care of their kids and parents at the same time. we are seeing this as an impossible balancing act. we also saw last month 865,000 women left the workforce, disproportionately black women and latinas. the percentage of women

participating in the hey boar labor force is at its lowest point since 1987, which is the year i was born. women at our breaking point and we are looking for senator kamala harris to speak for all of us. it is no coincidence that the majority of votes that we are seeing come from women. it is deeply fitting that after four years of this misogynist administration, women are going to be the one who cross the election. >> thank you both. don't forget to tune in on wednesday night when mike pence and kamala harris take the stage for the only vice president debate. join brian william and rachel maddow, joy reid and nicole wallace thursday on msnbc. car insurance so you only pay for what you need. liberty power!

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earlier this evening, president trump was seen waving to supporters outside of walter reed hospital from a motorcade where he's been receiving treatments for covid-19. the pandemic has upended the national traditional campaign cycle in a number of ways, the latest being the incumbent president contracting the virus himself just 30 days ahead of the november election. with young voters more energized than ever, how are these actions weighing on their decisions? all right, cam, what do you think that the president's diagnosis moeans for young voters? >> i mean the diagnoses plus his action today, a display of carelessness and his drivers and aides all being put at risk.

it's not reminder that donald trump doesn't care about the little guy. donald trump cares about himself, his wealth, his power. trump is the biggest risk the american people ever taken and young people are going to use this moment and his diagnosis as a mobilization strategy to make sure their peers and their parents never forget it. >> natalie, do you agree with that assessment? >> absolutely. i definitely agree with cam. this is another act of selfishness by the president. he is three days now from being diagnosed with covid and we know it takes between three to five days to know how the virus actually will impact the body. honestly, putting so many people in danger is just an act of carelessness, the exact same way

he has been executing every single policy into this country. he only cares about himself and it is all about politics and not showing up. the larger american public and young voters know this is carelessness. >> you are doing regular polling at this point. the frustration of doing regular polling is that we seem to have a momentous event that changes the dynamic of this election whether the nomination of amy conen barrett. whether it be the debate performance, whether it be the president's diagnosis. what are the trends that you're seeing as you look at your polling of young voters? >> totally. trying to take people's

temperature to where they are at this moment is an absolutely insane endeavor. young people are motivated to vote in this election than any other election before. we have seen the largest number of young people in battleground states say they are extremely motivated to cast a ballot. the ones who are maybe not quite there yet, we have four out of five of them say they were going to be watching the debate this week and i think that probably fired them up. i think this little road trip that the president went on was an embarrassment to a lot of young people in this country who have to be put in harm's way because they are service workers or caretakers or teachers. these actions, this blatant disregard for the health of the american people, i think, is putting some fire in the belly for young americans to go out and cast a ballot, not just to cast a ballot, period, but also to cast a ballot to throw donald trump out of office.

>> the four of us talked a lot about the fact in this election though this is true of other elections, why you're voting is as important as how you're voting. i want to talk to you about texas. texas governor greg abbott just issued an order limiting drop-off sites to one per location. for voters that you follow as i follow young voters, what does it mean for them? >> absolutely. texas is one of the youngest states in the nation. its average age of voters is 34 years old compared to 38 national. i think access to voting and access to polls is definitely something that's very important. what we know to be very true is that it's comical to think that

greg abbott cares about covid and how it affects the voters because he's also the governor that opened up texas early without protocol to create one of the greatest health risks so people in texas history. it is transparent that he is taking the lead on the president who right now the trump campaign has also divulged $54 million into what they call voter protection. and so greg abbott is one of his puppets and someone who's trying to intimidate voters on the ground. just to give you an idea of what's happening, tarrant county alone has 2 million voters, 2 million voters who only have one place to drop off early vote mail ballots. so you can just imagine that that's exactly what they're trying to do, is voter suppression and voter intimidation.

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democrats and republicans alike have rushed to offer their well-wishes to president trump, who now joins the over 7.4 million americans who have been

infected with covid-19. what they've shown is a sense of everyone thin empathy. the president rarely displayed empathy. the president did not seem to take into account that he might be putting people at risk for a publicity stunt. the president said tonight he's just now getting a new understanding of the virus. well, understanding can't be confused for empathy because it doesn't seem very empathetic to get into a vehicle and ride around while infected with a highly-contagious disease. joining me is claire midwell, smith, a grief therapist. thank you both so much for being here. i wonder, marissa, what you think empathetic leadership would look like in a moment like this? >> it definitely does not look

like hosting a covid parade when you know you're sick. i can tell you from my time and experience in the outbreak white house what it looks like. it looks like how president obama showed up after sandy hook, even though he admitted he had nothing to offer those families beyond empathy. it looks like outbreak presidenn giving unscripted marks where he talked about he felt like trayvon martin was his son. right now america is grieving. we've lost over 200,000 lives to coronavirus alone. i can't imagine what it's like to lose a loved one under any circumstances in the midst of a pandemic and i want a president who understands grief, because i

believe, based on my experiences, that grief and understanding of grief leads to greater empathy, which then leads to better policy. unfortunately, we are not getting what we deserve in this moment, but i hope we will soon. >> claire, i want to return to a moment from the debate last week where you had president trump taking a shot at joe biden's son hunter and biden's response that he's proud of his son's recovery from addiction. that made a lot of headlines, seemed to resonate with a lot of people. i wonder why you believe that is. >> i think that we need to have a lot of forgiveness and humility with people. i think that we are so quick to rush and judge and shame people and i think that is happening more than ever right now in this kind of culture of fear that we're going through during covid. and i think that more empathy,

as we're talking about, is really important right now. >> talk to me a little bit about anxiety, because there is grief and we talked a lot about grief, but there is also right now a lot of anxiety around this viru perpetrat perspective. are we looking for leadership that can help us with that understand? >> absolutely, our country and world is more are anxious than ever going through this pandemic. and i think that when we're anxious, it spills out in so many different ways. it spills out in anger and in hate and in quick judgment. and i think we're seeing that everywhere right now. and when you peel off the lid of fear and anxiety, underneath it is almost always sadness and just more fear. and i think that when we start to really look at those things, we can treat our anxiety and we can work through it.

>> there was also a story this week that touched a lot of people, heartbreaking news that chrissy teigen lost her pregnancy, she was pregnant with her third child. she and her husband had decided to call the baby jack. had he said, we never decide on our babies' names until the last possible moment after they're born, just before we leave the hospital, to our jack, i'm so sorry. this story struck a chord for so many people across this country, i know you've written about it. why do you think it hit a nerve? >> you know, i think when we saw those pictures, for me personally, it was honestly like getting punched in the gut. you know, you could see their pain. and the other thing that i saw when i looked at those pictures was their love. and i think that grief is really just another form of love.

you know, they experienced this just horrific and it sounds like fairly traumatizing loss. and seeing those pictures of them, you know, in that hospital room, i mean, if it didn't inspire empathy or something akin to empathy in someone, you know, i'm not sure what else would. my heart absolutely broke for them. and i'm glad that they shared them because, you know, one of the most important things that i have learned about grief over the years from losing a parent and losing a pregnancy last year, being able to access whatever it is you need to heal and share whatever you feel comfortable sharing really can make a difference. >> claire, we're so often shielded from grief and we're living in a moment where we are experiencing individual grief related to this virus. we're experiencing collective grief, society-wide grief.

to watch this expression, the decision to share this grief seems like a pretty radical act. >> i think it is and it isn't. i'm also so glad that she shared it. i think we don't see it enough. i think as a culture, maria shriver has a great quote that says we are a grief i will illi nation. social media is corrupt right now because all we're seeing is images of perfect things and that doesn't make anybody feel better. we need to share more truth, more raw images like this. we need to understand that we all go through this, we all have grief. we need to feel less alone when we think about those things. >> marisa, i want to give you

final thoughts on what this tells us about the way we treat women's health in this country. >> i think the way that some people unfortunately responded to the pictures that were shared is disgusting and very sad. but i think that's because, for better or worse, a lot of things about women's bodies and women's health continue to be stigmatized. it wasn't until 1993 that women were required to be a part of federally funded research studies. and so i think, you know, the more we share, the more we shine light on these various challenges and health issues, the more likely we'll get to more awareness and therefore enter the solutions for people. i hope we continue to move in a more positive direction. >> marisa and claire, thank you both. coming up, at the top of the hour, we know you still have a lot of questions on what's going on with the president and his diagnosis and what could happen next. joshua johnson has a number of

experts to answer your questions next on "the week."

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that's all for me tonight. i'm alicia menendez. i'll be back here next saturday at 6:00 p.m. eastern bringing you more "american voices." for now my colleague joshua johnson picks you want coverage, hello, joshua.

>> hello, alicia, have a good weekend. the president may be off the campaign trail but he did hit the street this weekend. he and his motorcade passed by supporters in front of walter reed medical center and then went back inside for more treatment for covid-19. from nbc world headquarters in new york, welcome to "the week." it is always good to be with you for another night of context, clarity, and conversation. this evening, the president tweeted another upbeat video from walter reed. he shared some of what he says he has learned. >> so, uh, it's been a very interesting journey. i learned a lot about covid. i learned it by really going to school, this is the real school, this isn't the let's read the books school. and i get it and i understand it. >> perhaps those lessons did not

include the need to isolate himself from others. after taping this video, he got into a vehicle with other people while infected with covid-19 to wave to the crowd outside the hospital gates. today his doctors said the president's condition has improved, his oxygen levels had dropped both friday and yesterday. they declined to answer questions about whether the president has lung damage or pneumonia. apparently he might be discharged from the hospital as early as tomorrow. all of this comes just one month before the election. tonight we'll break down the latest polls, and yes, there are a lot of them. and we'll try to explain how we make sense of what the polls mean. meanwhile, vice president mike pence and his wife karen tested negative again today. they've been tested every day since the president was diagnosed. he and senator kamala harris are still planning to debate this wednesday night. we'll discuss that with a debate coach who has won a number of national