with the potential to make people very ill and kill deaths 7 34million infections in the united states and over a million deaths globally. so this is not a trivial disease. people in the united states should realize that it is not a trivial disease. the potential for what covid can do with sars coronavirus 2, what it can do, is very, very different from influenza. you don't get a pandemic that kills a million people, and it isn't even over yet, with if it's tuesday, president influenza. >> so dr. fauci very strongly trump still isn't taking the saying this is not just like the coronavirus seriously even after being hospitalized by it. flu. as we learn another person close chuck, we also talked about the news today that the fda may be to him has tested positive. getting reportedly some pressure plus, voters are sending mr. from the white house in terms of trump a clear message four weeks putting out regulations and until election day as another poll shows joe biden with a guidelines for vaccinemakers and growing double-digit lead. how long it could take for a and the epic scale of the fires vaccine to come around. dr. fauci saying that he

out west continues to grow as supports the fda and those new guidelines that the fda wants to yet another hurricane rapidly intensifies in the gulf of make sure that, on average, mexico and heads for the gulf people who get the vaccine coast of the united states. trials then spend about two months, at least a median amount of the people spend two ♪ months -- >> kate snow with this interview with dr. fauci today. welcome to tuesday. thanks very much. it's "meet the press daily." but stick around here. i want to bring in dr. tom i'm chuck todd. just 28 days until the election. inglesby. before i set you up, i do think the president is in isolation at the white house, essentially it's worth noting what tom hospitalized at the white house. he's being monitored by a team bossert tweeted out. tom bossert was the president's of doctors with a team of chief homeland security adviser, assistants from walter reed medical hospital. a position they've since a physician said in a memo the downgraded after he left the president today is reporting no white house. and he tweeted this yesterday. symptoms and that he's doing for the good of collective well. a senior white house official tells nbc news that no decisions public health, not just your have been made whether he'll own, please remember to avoid deliver some kind of address to large gather,s. they are superspreader magnets. the nation at some point today. socially distance, wear a mask, but the president is clearly not out of the woods yet. isolate when sick and quarantine after being in contact with doctors will not disclose the someone sick. this pandemic is far from over. results of his lung scans nor the date of his last negative these are the core elements of the targeted layered mitigation covid test. we don't know if he's tested

strategy. negative yet before they sent the president and senior people him home. he's back at the white house essentially hospitalized at the around him have violated all of these fundamentals. white house. they have the ability to do we can all learn from these unfortunate developments. that. the president said he's planning dr. inglesby, how frustrating to to attend next week's debate in see the president tweeting this miami. last night he made a dramatic morning about covid and you and return to the white house from walter reed. he appeared to be struggling for other public officials have air as he stood for a photo op after climbing those stairs. done? >> yeah, i think it's really the president continues to try concerning to see that message. to downplay it. he tweeted this morning once it's clearly not true. again suggesting covid, which has killed more than 200,000 and so obviously not true. but i think, obviously, people americans in this country and do -- many people do listen to counting and over a million worldwide is no worse than the the president and could get the seasonal flu. upon his return from the message that this virus isn't as hospital last night he tweeted out this video saying this. dangerous as it clearly is. i'm also really concerned about >> don't let it dominate you. the president's words yesterday where he was saying don't be afraid of this virus. don't be afraid of it. you're going to beat it. it's almost beriding people who we have the best medical equipment. we have the best medicines. take concerns and precautions. all developed recently. and you're going to beat it. it's the opposite of what we i went. i didn't feel so good, and two should be doing. we see the damage this has done days ago, i could have left two in the country. days ago. two days ago, i felt great. we should be working to try and

like better than i have in a get our economy moving in safe long time. i said just recently, better than 20 years ago. ways, but we can't stop doing >> as you can tell, he does not what tom bossert just said we sound like a healthy individual need to do. those -- that's what's going to there. dr. fauci just spoke to my help us contain this virus colleague kate snow about some around the united states. >> how concerned are you that of those comments. we'll have more on that in a we're about to get into a really moment. the president is contagious. as an outbreak continues to rage bad spike here? it feels as if one has been around him. a person familiar withhe militao building. you know, whether it's schools comes into contact with the opening labor day, shut down president tested positive over the weekend which means we're up to 15 people connected to the fatigue, the combination of it white house or the trump all. it seems like every week the campaign who have tested number just keeps going up. positive for covid in >> yeah, i mean, we're about 20% essentially the last eight to up in terms of new cases as ten days. as the president battles a compared to three weeks ago. personal health crisis, he's and for the first time in facing an alarming political months, the number of crisis with just four weeks hospitalizations nationwide is until election day. beginning to go up. if you look at states like a new cnn poll has him trailing wisconsin, they have higher joe biden by 16 points. incidents in that state than is that an outlier? we've seen in states in a long because our recent nbc/"wall time. so i am very concerned that street journal" poll had biden up 14. things are moving in the wrong so something happened post direction. we've got more than two-thirds debate. and a new poll of battleground of the states have increasing cases day over day, week over

pennsylvania which is vital to the president's path to 270 week. so i think with the cold weather electoral votes shows biden also approaching, people are moving up double digits. more indoors. 12 points in this one. we have to do everything we can joining me outside the white to try to avoid large house is my nbc news colleague gatherings, wear masks, shannon pettypiece. physically distance and the messages coming out of the white also kate snow who just sat down house right now are really with dr. anthony fauci. confusing and i think exactly also dr. tom inglesby, director the wrong way to be going. of the johns hopkins center and >> and almost real dr.rmal naval doctor. head-scratching considering what they've all been going through. you'd think they'd be moving in the opposite direction. let me bring in dr. marty from shannon, let me start with you. and where we are on the florida international university. president's condition and this i want to talk about the president's care in particular. idea that he may speak to the let me put up a graphic of the nation tonight. what do we know? >> well, chuck, our reporting treatments he's receiving in some form or another. he's either currently or has. indicates the president is anticipated to make some comment to the country tonight. we don't know in what form. remdesivir. regeneron antibody cocktail. could be another one of these we don't know if he's still prerecorded videos like he has taking that. been releasing or a more formal dexamethasone, a steroid. address to the nation from the supplemental oxygen. oval office like he has done in he's gotten zinc, vitamin d, the past. you mentioned that we got a brief update on his health today. i will say the only update we've famotidine, melatonin and gotten is this three-sentence

aspirin. his doctor claims he's not memo from his physician saying experiencing symptoms today, but he has no symptoms and it begins they didn't tell us whether he's with the caveat that he's still on remdesivir or releasing this information with the permission of the president. dexamethasone. and we know that the if he was not experiencing symptoms, would he still be on physician -- the president's physician has given some those drugs? contradictory messages. >> the course for those but otherwise, staffers have been out trying to portray this medications would, for example, the remdesivir is five days. image of a president who is the five days has yet not feeling extremely well and who passed. is ready to go to the debates the treatment of dexamethasone would normally be given -- if next week. presumably under the fda only -- if he has a problem with guidelines, someone has to -- it takes about 10 to 20 days since oxygenation. if you give dexamethasone to a exhibiting the first symptoms patient who is not experiencing for someone to be clear of the virus. they have to have a viral load under a certain level and can't problems with being able to get enough oxygen into his system, be showing any symptoms. so i think maybe this memo today you are potentially causing harm emphasizing the president's exhibiting no symptoms could be and would normally be given to him once a day and probably for a foreshadowing to them making at least five and no more than an argument that, oh, he's been symptom free for a number of ten days long, this days and clear to go to the dexamethasone treatment. i would also add that we are debate. but the president's campaign and the president himself very clear only still in the beginning of that he plans to go to the his symptoms. debate in person next week. we are still to see whether he's

going to crash, which he may >> shannon, i want to make it still do. clear. we still do not know when the they do have sort of a mini-icu last time president trump tested type setup now at the white negative for the virus, correct? >> correct. house. it has been asked multiple times so while he's technically out of the hospital, he isn't really. of the president's physician. he has refused to answer that. and we have to be aware of that so as far as when he could be reality. i want to add one more thing. clear medically to go to the in addition to what dr. fauci debate, we don't really know and dr. inglesby said whom i when the clock started ticking on when the starting point was for his symptoms or for that respect. first negative test. the other thing i want to add is that we have recent data showing >> we have no idea -- we have that 49.6% of the hospitalized not heard from the commission on presidential debates about, do patients with covid-19 continue they have a plan b and how they to have one or more symptoms for would protect the town hall a minimum of three months. questioners from a potentally so you can expect there to be contagious president trump? symptoms for a prolonged period >> we haven't. of time. the biden campaign was asked and when they spoke earlier in about this a bit and their take this broadcast about being able and vice president biden was to be out there if you don't very careful. he said not to get into have symptoms. commenting on the president's no symptoms with no treatment, health and leaving that to the doctors. their main line from the biden with no aspirin, with no campaign seems they'll stick to tylenol, with no dexamethasone,

what the doctors say. et cetera. what the scientists say. what the president has been on, what they advise to be done. has been on a dexamethasone there's a vice presidential high. and that's why he thinks that debate where kamala harris and he's doing better than he vice president mike pence will be on the same stage. the vice president has continued actually is. >> that's what i wanted to ask to repeatedly test negative, but you. i mean, look, i -- my father's you show that graphic of a number of people around the deceased and i remember when president who even as recently as yesterday with the press he'd get a steroid shot towards secretary continue to have -- the end, he felt great for a few have been negative and then all days. of a sudden have a positive test so is that -- is that what dexamethasone can do for folks result. >> shannon pettypiece, thank you where it's just this feeling of, for that. oh, i feel great? kate snow, i want to set up your >> yes, it is. conversation with dr. fauci with what we heard from the >> so if he's no longer on this, if this is being done for what president. let me put up his tweet about the flu this morning. you said is -- they are worried flu season is coming up. about the oxygen levels in his many people every year, sometimes over 100,000 and blood, what else are they despite the vaccine, die from likely -- i mean, is he likely the flu? are we going to close down our getting supplemental oxygen if country? he's also getting this no, we're going to live with it just like we learn to live with treatment? >> it's going -- if he were my covid. for what it's worth, on march 9th, the president tweeted this patient, he would be absolutely getting supplemental oxygen about the flu. this is at the start of the right now. moreover, i would be monitoring

pandemic. so last year 37,000 americans not only for his liver function, died from the common flu. it averages between 27,000 and heart function, lung function, 70,000 per year. nothing is shut down life and the economy go on. neurologic changes and also very at this moment there are 546 importantly his coagulation confirmed cases of coronavirus with 22 deaths. system because of -- especially think about that. with his history of having obviously, these tweets don't cholesterol problems, high blood age very well for the president. but this issue of the president pressure that's under control, his weight, et cetera. himself downplaying the virus as he's fighting it, i know that he's being set up for ending up was a toing of conversation for with micro thrombi that can lead you today with dr. fauci. >> it was. to further complications. and it was a lengthy conversation, chuck. he's going to strob monitored this was part of a cornell strictly in the next few days university event that i agreed to do where i interviewed dr. and especially day 5 to day 7 fauci. it's their homecoming week. because that's when he may look, i asked him, obviously, about many things. crash. >> one other question i want to i asked him about the ask you about dr. marty has to president's behavior and the do with this nugget in "the messaging that happened at the white house last night when the times" today. nearly one-third of hospitalized president removed his mask. covid-19 patients experience some type of altered mental dr. fauci being careful to say function ranging from confusion he'd not directly take on the to delirium to unresponsiveness. president or criticize the in the largest study to date of president but he did say, look, neurological symptoms among there are some things that should be universally practiced. coronavirus patients in an masks. american hospital system. you generally talked about how

avoid i many hospitalized patients, avoiding crowds. about half of them end up with doesn't matter who you are. and then i did ask him directly at least some symptom for three about the comments you just months. what is the best way to figure mentioned. the president this morning comparing covid-19 to the flu. out whether you have a mental and appearing to diminish it and incapacitation due to this virus? say that it's not that serious and here's what dr. fauci said >> well, depends on what level of mental incapacitation you're in response. >> covid-19 is manifestations talking about. a very mild if you will, form of mental incapacitation is the enormous fatigue that so many of these patients have. they have strange hallucinations some of these patients. and that can be brought out with appropriate medical supervision and conversations, et cetera. we will have to monitor him very carefully. it's very likely -- by the way, one of the things a fair number of patients get is loss of hair. i'm sure the president would not like to lose his hair. >> no, that is another point, too. sounds like we have a long week here to see how the president handles covid as the week goes

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welcome back. some breaking news. nbc news has learned that a group of military officials, potentially including some very senior pentagon officials including the chairman of the joint chiefs are quarantining after being exposed to the coronavirus. the pentagon says a top official who met with military leaders recently tested positive and that's why they are doing this quarantine. while the president is

downplaying the severity of the virus, take a look at this. these are workers in essentially hazmat suits. they did a deep disinfection parts of the west wing last night including the white house briefing room, press secretary kayleigh mcenany and two of her deputies are among the now 15 people tied to the white house or trump campaign who have tested positive in the last week. one white house official tells nbc, quote, folks are dropping like flies and that staff members aren't being informed through official channels about new cases. and a white house source told axios, it's insane that the president would return to the white house and jeopardize his staff's health when we are still learning of new cases among senior staff. this place is a cesspool. joining me is someone who knows what it's like to work in the west wing and trump administration. joe grogan, we invited you on because you can give us a firsthand, i think, description of just how, a, tight the

quarters are and, b, sort of how dangerous it is to duck this virus if it is running around the west wing. so paint the visual for us, if you will, joe. >> yeah, look, it's an old complex. construction began in the 18th century. it is not designed for the amount of people that occupy it. the tempo of people coming in and out. and it isn't set up with modern air circulation systems. during the obama administration, they had a plan to shut it down for two years and upgrade all the air circulation, the security of the west wing and the white house, and they were going to move president obama's office into the executive office building which is adjacent, and that plan was scrapped. so president trump came in and one of the first foreign policies -- trips he did was stayed up at bedminster and a partial upgrade was begun at

that point. but i think it's important to understand, anybody working in the west wing is varying degree of ill the entire time they're working there. there's colds, the flu. they are on top of one another all the time. senior aides are always telling young people who deem themselves invincible, go home if you don't feel well. none of the young people, certainly none of the assistants want to miss anything important or miss a day at work. but you are constantly pushing people to go home, and you're on top of one another. i would say, too, just watching that disinfecting of the press room. i mean, that is, to be frank, a weakness that was identified in the beginning of covid. one thing that we discussed, i was on the task force, is we should not allow the media onto the complex. there were reporters coming down from new york city and new york when tha wasot. and we didn't think it was smart. we did not have the testing set up at that point to be able to

screen everybody who was going to be in these briefings or on the complex and come into the oval. and the president rejected that course of action. you start to make a compromise on the security complex in little ways like that, and then eventually it unravels. >> yeah. you know, it's interesting to hear you say that about the press. i have felt the same way the other way. i'm concerned about our -- the press folks because i don't think they get the same protections and they aren't getting the say. but if that is a vulnerability, what was that saturday event rolling out amy coney barrett. that turned out to be, it looks like now, a spreader event. what are the protocols that you know, joe, that you think weren't used that allowed for this to happen? >> i think that that event and the dimunition of the protocols

began awhile ago. and it was the unraveling of the protocols when this began in march. we had -- we were putting strict protocols in place, and we were putting -- ramping up the testing, wearing the masks, worrying about social distancing, spreading people out. when i was on the complex in may, continuing to work there the president's valet tested positive. that caused a whole new increase in protocols and testing and limiting access to the oval office. and people needed to take more responsibility. there is no way that that event, i do not deny it, is defensivible with everybody sitting on top of each other with no masks on. people need to take responsibility for their own health, wearing masks and social distancing and washing hands whenever possible. it's important to recognize i think the white house probably had a sense of false security due to the testing protocol which has been identified as

imperfect. you know, they're going to have to look at layering new technologies on top of the one that was used. maybe replacing the test that was used for new tests. and, you know, we in the private sector, we have to -- we can only rely on masks, social distancing and hand washing. they were relying on the testing, and i think it carried them forward for a long time, but eventually, it unraveled. >> would you feel comfortable working there today with the president there right now, not having tested negative yet? >> you know, that is a question for, frankly, the chief of staff, mark meadows. he's going to have to come forward and assure the staff that it is safe. he's going to have to be confident that the staff is -- that it's safe for the staff to come back. he's in charge of making sure. the president needs to convalesce and he has a lot of -- >> doesn't sound like you think it's safe yet. >> i haven't been assured. i haven't heard them come out and say, hey, come back to work.

these are the protocols in place. i think it's a fair point. you need to assure people that it's safe for them to go to work. and that goes, frankly, for all americans who are going into workplaces. employers need to take responsibility for their employees and their customers. and every american needs to take responsibility. again, wearing the mask, washing their hands. i will say this, too, though. you know, i was struck by dr. fauci's comments because he -- i think he misspoke when he said we don't have pandemic flu. he knows better than anybody that we had devastating pandemic flus. and we ran the health and human services of which he was a part, ran a drill in october 2019, a year ago, for the possibility of a pandemic flu. we had the spanish flu here in the united states which killed almost a million people in the early 1900s when our population was 105 million. so i do think an untold story in all of this is that our public

health apparatus was focusing on flu and pandemic flu and not prepared for coronavirus. the koreans ran a drill a year ago on coronavirus. they developed a plan for coronavirus. we did not have one. >> well, and that is the difference. they had the sars experience. they had a very bad experience, and in some ways, it allowed them to be, i think, more prepared for this one. joe grogan, appreciate you sharing some of your thoughts and experiences from your time at the white house. thanks for coming on. still to come -- breaking news from florida where the voter registration deadline was just extended. before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new? -audrey's expecting... -twins!

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welcome back. when we launched our "meet the press" county to county initiative 11 months ago, we were going to spend time in five counties and five swing states that would help tell us a lot about how and which way the election would go. maricopa county, milwaukee, kent county and beaver county and miami-dade county. they are pieces of the electorate. different aspects of the

electorate in all these battle ground states. now our county to county reporters aren't just spending time in those counties. they're pretty much moving there for the next four weeks. vaughn hillyard is in maricopa. dasha burns is in beaver. let's go from east to west and start with you. what are you seeing in maricopa and are we seeing the same shifts there we're seeing nationally among seniors. >> okay. i think we should frame up maricopa county if we could. when we first started this project, the last place in maricopa county that we were going to look was in the west valley in sun city. we're talking about a senior community of more than 80,000 people. but with less than a month until the election, that's exactly where we're standing because in sort oing fashion you're seeing these poll numbers suggest a shift away from president trump. here in arizona in 2016, donald

trump won 65 and older crowd by 13 percentage points. but just in the last week, "new york times"/si ena college poll put him up a point by seniors. and there was some evidence back in 2018 that sun city residents were willing to shift and vote for democrat kyrsten sinema in the senate race in some of these very neighborhoods. there's a 15-point swing from donald trump to kyrsten sinema. that's why we wanted to have a conversation with some voters here. take a listen to part of my conversation with trudy and larry. >> this is just telling people out there who are such avid followers of his that, hey, it's okay. you get sick, no big deal. but he doesn't talk about, if you get it, then you pass it to this person who passes it to that person who might be a lot more vulnerable than any of

these people and die. >> he doesn't talk about the vulnerability of people in our age, the 65 and older group. even though he's a part of that group. >> sun city, chuck, is all but still shut down. the clubs and activities have come to a halt. there's hardly any social dining experience among community members, and that's because 90% of covid deaths across the country have happened across the age demographic group of 55 and older. larry, you heard from, he's never voted for a democrat for president. he voted for donald trump in 2016. and as you heard him there, he's frustrated. and it was this covid experience, just the last seven months, that he tells me put him over the edge. and right now, ballots, chuck, are heading to mailing boxes tomorrow. this is crunch time. it's real now here in sun city, chuck. >> vaughn, it matches what we're seeing nationally among seniors in our nbc/"wall street journal" poll. vaughn hillyard, thanks.

let's go to shaquille brewster and, shaq, i have to say, milwaukee was picked to host the convention. wisconsin was seen as ground zero for the democrats when it comes to recapturing, rebuilding their big, blue wall. i was stunned to see the headline today that voter registration numbers are lagging in milwaukee county. what's the story? >> right. that voter registration number lagging in milwaukee county, but a word of caution for that. unlike other states here in wisconsin you can have that same-day registration. so democrats here still feel they have time to generate that enthusiasm. let's remind our viewers why we come to milwaukee. it's because this is a place where it was the lack of democratic enthusiasm in 2016 that really helped president trump win this state. turnout across the state was down about 3%. in milwaukee, in the city of milwaukee, down about 10%. but in some districts in this city, it was down 40 percentage points. so democrats feel they need to

reverse that. i spent my time talking to those so-called vanishing voters. people who stayed home in 2016 after voting in 2012. listen to what a few of them told me about how they're viewing this election. >> i was still undecided so i just decided not to go. >> you chose not to vote. looking back at it now, how do you feel? >> i feel stupid. >> why are you voting this time around? >> because i don't want to take the chance and letting him win again. >> a sleeping bear. a lot of people were sleeping. even i was sleeping. but when the bear woke up, milwaukee woke up. >> you didn't vote in 2016. this time around, how do you plan on voting? >> you know, i'm going to -- i'm going to wait for the debate. >> you're still undecided? >> i am in between biden and independent honestly.

i don't know. >> you hear from shandy there in the last sound bite. there is still more work that needs to be done. it's not a safe bet that just because folks see the current state of things, just because there's frustration. frustration of current events. that does not mean that biden has things on lock here in milwaukee. one other thing we just heard from milwaukee election officials that the -- the fisa form and miller park will no longer be early voting locations. that's where the milwaukee bucks and milwaukee brewers play. they were going to expand that and have that be early voting location but officials here are concerned because those locations were added so late that that may open them up to some legal challenges. so we know a lot of lawsuits have been swirling around here in wisconsin. this is just another one. now you see the effect of that in terms of early voting that begins october 20th. chuck? >> that is fascinating. shaquille brewster in broadcami,

thanks. let's move down to miami where we've had quite a bit of the biden campaign after months of not making it to miami. a bit of news today from the governor. what do we have, ellison? >> we started out the day planning to talk about former vice president joe biden making his way to miami yesterday. he's stopped by here in little havana and the nbc town hall. we talked to voters who attended that. then there was a big announcement coming from the governor of florida. they have no decided to extend the voter registration deadline in this state until 7:00 p.m. tonight. the window to register is now from noon to 7:00 p.m. 7:00 p.m. local time if you are registering in person. 7:00 p.m. eastern time if registering online. all of this happened after the online voter registration website had major problems yesterday evening. the website is said to be

working now. here's what governor ron desantis had to say about an hour ago. >> well, it's working now, but as you know, if 500,000 people descend at the same time, it creates a bottleneck. there are people who would go. couldn't get through. they'd try again and they would get through but it obviously wasn't smooth because you had so much traffic. >> hours before the deadline to register to vote last night, voters started reporting they were having issues accessing the online website to register to vote. something saying they could not get on the website. others saying they were getting error messages or the system was timing out. when all of this hand, or started to happen, the secretary of state initially said that it was an issue that only lasted for about 15 minutes and that they had dealt with it. she said the time it was due to high volume. by 6:00 p.m. she tweeted the voter registration website was online and working. today she says the state is

investigating the issues. they say they are looking into -- to try and ensure this wasn't a deliberate act. they had 1.1 million requests per hour. one democrat, though, is upset right now at the extension deadline saying they should have been given -- given voters at least 24 hours and saying not being prepared for an influx of voters amounts to voter suppression in their view. chuck? >> ellison barber in miami-dade, thank you very much. i'll say this. it is noteworthy that florida apparently needs some i.t. help or new technology officer. voter registration site. before that, massive problems with their unemployment site. perhaps all this stuff is unrelated but perhaps they need a technological upgrade in the state of florida. let's move to beaver county, pennsylvania, where we find dasha burns. it seems as if, and you have your ear to the ground in beaver and away that's been terrific. it seems as if the closer

election day gets, the closer the votes get in beaver. we're in beaver because this was -- used to be a swing county that trump just made a trump county four years ago. and the question is, is it going to stay that way or not? >> yeah, chuck. that's absolutely right. we're here to see if that enthusiasm, he won by 19 points to 2016, to see if that holds through to november 2020. and we have seen some cracks in that support, though interestingly enough not due to covid. even after the president's covid diagnosis, the voters i've been speaking with, that is not impacting how they view this race. but, chuck, although voter enthusiasm and voter sentiment is important here, interestingly enough perhaps the biggest headlines out of pennsylvania have not been about which way voters are going but more about the voting process itself. we have had so many conversations about these court rulings making things complicated both in beaver and in the state overal. this is the first presidential

election where pennsylvania has no reason absentee voting which means there are a lot of first-time absentee voters here. absentee ballots are mailed out in beaver county last week, and today we've seen a lot of folks come in and out of this courthouse to drop off their ballot in person. in fact, chuck, we just had a gentleman come out of the courthouse because he tried to drop off his ballot and his wife's ballot. the clerk said that's not happening. you can only drop off your own ballot in person. so a lot of complicated issues that voters are navigating and trying to vote early because there is so much passion here to vote. but some questions still, the election workers here are constantly as they try to field all of these mail-in ballots and get them processed here. chuck? >> dasha burns, people learning the hard way what the new rules are in pennsylvania. vaughn, dasha, shaq and ellison, thank you all. we'll be checking in quite a bit

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the pentagon, pentagon correspondent for us. how many folks are quarantined? if you think about where we are right now, we are a dozen officials at the white house of the trump cam pane, at least three united states senators, capitol hill, the white house and now the pentagon. what happened? >> reporter: that's right. we found out today that the vice commandidant tested positive for coronavirus and spiraled into other senior military officials. general mark millie is at quarantine at home and general heighten in self quarantine and others. the ones we have confirm reasonable doubt the head of u.s. space force and the chief of the air force general c.q. brown but what's so critical is once again what we have been

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good afternoon. i'm katy tur. 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in the east. donald trump is back to the white house and downplaying the virus that he himself is sick with. nbc news learned that senior pentagon officials are in quarantine today after exposure to covid-19. they join a growing number of othe