good morning to you. it is sunday, october 11th. we are 23 days until election day. i'm ali velshi live on bell isle, detroit, in michigan, for the fifth stop on our sunday series "velshi across america." i'm coming to you live each sunday coming to you before election day from vital battleground states in cities, counties, talking to voters from across the political spectrum. i start this had journey in

minneapolis, minnesota, kenoshi, wisconsin, due to the role those cities are playing in the social injustice. i went to ohio, more traditional swing state backgrounds. known for its working class values, rise and in some cases the fall of manufacturing. the state voted democrat going back till 1992 until donald trump won it marginally by less than 11,000 votes. times appear to have changed. the latest polling in michigan shows donald trump with a major lead -- shows joe biden with a major lead over donald trump, with a double-digit poll. michigan is back in the national spotlight for a different reason entirely. at least 13 people associated with multiple white supremacist and anti-government groups have been arrested in an alleged plot

to kidnap the democratic governor, gretchen whitmer, transport her out of the state and apparently hold her on trial for treason. the suspects' goals, according to investigators, was to start what white supremacists call, quote, the boogaloo, an uprising or civil war. >> this was a very serious, thought-out plot to kill police officers to bomb our capital, killing democrats and republicans alike and to kidnap and ultimately put me on trial and kill me as well. these are the types of things you hear from groups like isis. this is not a militia. it is a domestic terror organizatio organization. >> governor whitmer has been a frequent target of the president and she has made it clear in no uncertain terms she finds him complicit in this threat of

terrorist violence. >> just last week the president of the united states stood before the american people and refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups like these two michigan militia groups. when our leaders meet with, encourage or fraternize with domestic terrorists, they legitimize their actions and they are complicit. >> donald trump continued to trash governor whitmer after this news broke saying, quote, she has done a terrible job, even suggesting she should have thanked him personally for the work that federal enforcement did to thwart the plot. it's not been a gold star week for the president in terms of his behavior, name calling against nancy pelosi, kamala harris, and escoriating his own attorney general for not indicting joe biden. and telling americans there's nothing to fear from covid after

214,000 fellow americans have died from the disease. telling a group of not very socially distanced supporters at the white house that the worst may be behind us. >> a lot of flare-ups, but it's going to disappear. it is disappearing, and vaccines are going to help. the therapeutics are going to help a lot. >> trump's latest false promise that coronavirus is disappearing came just a day after six states reported one-day records, new records for new cases, two days before he's set to resume in-person rallies. in sanford, florida, set to hold a rally in johnstown, pennsylvania on tuesday. trying to make up for lost ground in pennsylvania, without which he is not likely to win the presidency again. his physician has given some

puzzling and conflicting answers about the president's condition since he was first hospitalized nine days ago. gave him the green light, releasing a memorandum that reads in part, i am happy to report that in addition to the president meeting cdc criteria for the safe discontinuation of isolation, this morning's test s demonstrates by currently recognized standards he is no longer considered a transmission risk to others. three weeks before election day, another reminder why donald trump may be so eager to return to the campaign trail. it came in the form of a new washington post/abc news poll that shows him trailing by 12 points nationally. third ma major national poll in the last week showing him trailing by double digits. it was conducted entirely after his release from walter reed last week. we'll get back to all of that

over the course of the next two hours. i'm here in michigan and i want to talk about michigan. joining me now, the attorney general of michigan. attorney general nestle, i'm glad to be in your state, for all the wrong reasons unfortunately. i did not think you or i, or any attorney general and i would be having this conversation in the united states about charges brought against 13 people, some by the federal government and some by you, for essentially what are terrorist acts. >> yeah. well, obviously, it's a very disturbing set of circumstances, but in some ways, honestly, inevitable, given the rhetoric we've heard from the white house and the failure to condemn white spreupremacy groups, groups tha involve terrorism. we heard the fbi director talk about the fact that the exponential rise across the country in these groups poses

the biggest threats we have to american society right now. it's alarming. it's disturbing, but not very shocking to me. >> let's talk about the fact that you said, in fact -- you said this may well be the tip of the iceberg. there's more than just political disagreement or passionate advocacy. some of these groups' mission is simply to create chaos and inflict harm against others. we kind of know militias exist, bans of people with guns who support the second amendment who are, generally speaking, anti-government. what should americans and michiganers know about militias? >> they are proliver ating in american society right now. it's not just a michigan problem. it's an american problem. it spans across many states. these types of organizations have been around for a long time.

depending on when it was, you know, they were sort of operating, you know, under the surface and really not very active at all. but that's very much changed in recent years. and there are so many of these groups out there. and they, you know, have heard a rallying cry, i believe, from elected officials. not just federal elected officials, but those, you know, for instance in our state house that consort with them, hobknob with them at events. they thrive on unrest. we've had nothing but unrest and chaos and anarchy in 2020 during covid, black lives matter protests and the constant state of chaos that's been brought about by the president of the united states. these groups are more active than ever. they are energized and they are prepared to do great harm to our nation. >> this is not new in michigan.

it's also not unique to michigan. there are militias active in every single state. the panelists i spoke to, whom we'll be hearing from later on in the show, republican or democrat, were united in the idea this is inappropriate. this is not what they should be doing. in every state the laws exist that say without the approval of the governor, these groups cannot engage in whatever they think of as law enforcement or organized militia activity. what's happening right now? are you having conversations either with the federal government or other attorney generals about how to now seriously address this? public opinion may be in favor of doing something a little more aggressive with some of these groups. >> yeah. i will say this. people who consider themselves to be real law enforcement, you know, again, are unified in understanding how dangerous these groups are. what concerns me -- i don't know if you heard the news from the last couple of days, but we had a county sheriff on the west

side of the state here that really -- >> yeah. >> -- seemed to condone their behavior. that's very troublesome to me. i will say this. we've had great cooperation with, you know, the republican-appointed united states attorneys from both the eastern and western district. obviously, the fbi has done a phenomenal job, michigan state police. we are working together. i'm an elected democrat. and i'm working with appointed republicans, and we are all unified in our effort to combat these types of groups. and i think the same is true in many different states, but i have to say, it is so important that at the federal level, when you talk about the department of justice and when you talk about, of course, the president of the united states, we have to have people in positions of great authority that understand the threat and that are willing to fight vigorously against this

threat. otherwise, these organizations will simply continue to thrive. >> attorney general, i have to say, when i heard this news about this plot, i was saddened, like many americans were, but for a second reason. as you know, you have been booked to join me on this show for a while. i want to talk to you about something that is celebratory. today is national coming out day. it's an important day for a whole bunch of people who are thinking about coming out, who are thinking about, you know, exercising the freedoms that the constitution affords them in this country. i wanted to get your thoughts on that. >> well, i mean, you're right. it's normally a day of celebration, but it's hard to celebrate right now under the current administration. and i will say, we have seen instance after instance after instance where we now have a federal government that has utter disdain not just for the

lbgtq community but all marnlallized communities and minority communities. i can't count the number of lawsuits i'm involved in with a number of other democratic attorneys general across the nation to try to fight back against the trump administration and their effort to push lgbtq americans back into the closet and, i don't know, make us disappear all together. that's why, again, it is so incredibly important to me that people realize the threat that this federal government poses to people all across this nation. and i look back. we're just a little bit over five years from the seminole decision that allowed for marriage equality all across the united states. and, of course, i was involved in that case. one of the michigan cases was consolidated into that case. but, you know, in the last week, i think, we heard statements

from two republican-appointed justices on the supreme court basically calling for that decision to be overturned. now we are on the cusp of a new appointee to the united states supreme court. i think we're joined in that effort. and all the great momentum and all the great progress that's been made for the lgbtq community in the way of supreme court cases and in the way of having various different rule propulgations under the obama administration will all have disappeared in the next few years potentially. it's really upsetting. and it's not just, you know, two steps forward, one step back. that was two steps forward and now 20 steps back, just over the course of the last 3 1/2 years. >> that is one more reason for people to make sure that they get out and vote in this

election that is three days away where voting has already started for many americans. dana nessel, always a pleasure to speak with you. dana nessel is michigan's attorney general. head of the labor and space and science committee, also previously served as chief of staff for an auto industry task force convened by president obama. congresswoman, thank you for being with us here in person in your beautiful state. you represent a district north of here. so you've seen a lot of changes in this place. the number of people i'm talking to, the panelists, their number one issue for a lot of people, including those who are going to support donald trump, is the economy. nobody understands the economy and ups and downs better than people from michigan. >> that's correct. i'm not surprised that's what you're hearing. in part because that's what i'm hearing, too. as congresswoman for the district with the largest concentration of automotive

suppliers, we've got chrysler, we've got a manufacturing economy that's been whacked. before this pandemic even hit as measured by productive, manufacturing at large and yet our manufacturers keep stepping up to the industrial call to action, which is something we saw in this pandemic when our supply chain was disrupted so horrifically. >> i want to ask johnny to frame up my shot here. over this shoulder is detroit and -- sorry, no, that's detroit, right? hold on. that's detroit and that is windsor, canada. the ambassador bridge is right behind us. that bridge is the busiest border crossing between the united states and canada. you are nothing but trade here. so it's the manufacturing of those automobiles and all of those parts and then the fact that there is trade and exchange. what do you say to people who

say donald trump and his trade wars have been good for america? >> look, all you have to do is talk to the small business owners who have been pushed to the brink and have seen margins squeezed, saw profits decreased. we saw that with our big three. gm lost a billion dollars in the first quarter that these trade deals were implemented. yet there's no relief. there's no answer. it's america backed into the corner, waving a sword around, fighting a trade war alone. we need to be working with our allies. obviously we need to be tough on china but a go it alone strategy has only hurt our american worker and small businesses. i hear it every single day. >> going alone, fighting with canada, one of our oldest and greatest allies and trading partners. let's talk about the coronavirus relief bill. donald trump tweeting in all caps, no bill until after the election. then we have to get a bill now and wants something bigger than what congress -- all of a sudden we have a bill proposed by

steven mnuchin. it's not anywhere near the bill you all passed in congress. for the moment from what i've heard from nancy pelosi, not something that democrats in congress are satisfied with. what do my viewers out there who say we need relief, what should they think? >> obviously we need to contain this virus. when we talk about recovery we're talking about public health and economic recovery. there's sustained pain among industries across the board here in michigan from our small businesses to our mid-size who need help. also our schools that need the resources. we're still looking at a $750 per pupil budget cut in this current climate. guidance counselors are getting laid off at school. teachers are looking at rollback of resources. three, we need a jobs and business continuity strategy. incentives, grants to rehire, purchase that ppe and keep the

lights on, right? overhead costs as much as we want people to keep their jobs we don't want sustained long-term unemployment. we're at 8% unemployment here in michigan. not acceptable. we want to get people back to work and back to work safely. >> congressman haley stevens here in michigan, thank you for your time. perfect example of why your vote and why every vote matters. i'll explain next. first, a wide-ranging conversation with voters here in michigan in light of the attempted attack against their governor. i asked them what donald trump should do to corral these violent militias. >> president trump needs to create some kind of registry to know who we're dealing with and also put them on notice that

we're watching you closely and anything you do, the law will be thrown down on you. >> i would want him to denounce all violence, whether it's from the right, the left, the center, the side. it doesn't matter. he has to denounce the white supremacists. he has to denounce the domestic terrorist terrorists, he has to denounce international terrorists. he just has to denounce violence in states. stop dancing around the issue. look limu! someone out there needs help customizing their car insurance with liberty mutual, so they only pay for what they need. false alarm. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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all right. the past year has forced many of us to reexamine the strength of our democracy. while i've been on the road for the series, i spoke to many of you who question whether your vote even matters. especially when the powers that be regularly cast doubt on our voting system. i'm here to tell you that your vote has never actually mattered more. first, it helps to understand how the electoral college works. each party nominates a group of electers. each state has a number of electors, depending on how many representatives it has in congress. then think of it as a winner takes all system. the candidate who wins the popular vote is actually going to take all of the state's

electors. nebraska and maine are the only two exceptions to this rule. they award electors based on the state's votes. if you can't to 270 votes -- they can't get there if you don't cast your ballot, in person or by mail. as michelle obama correctly pointed out at the democratic national convention, the winning margin in michigan averaged, listen to this, two votes per precinct. that's it. two votes. in the end, donald trump won the state by less than 11,000 votes, two votes per precinct. some of you are thinking what if i don't live in a swing state? contested results this year, pretty hard to argue against the land slide victory in either direction. if you're still not can convinced your vote matters, how

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♪ all right. i'm here in michigan where in 2016 less than 11,000 votes separated donald trump from hillary clinton, a clear example of how we know every vote

matters and every vote needs to count. that's why the governor and secretary of state here have been working so diligently to combat voter disinformation in an effort to maintain voter integrity. 200,000 michiganers have requested absentee ballots. governor gretchen whitmer passed a law allowing more process time for clerks to ensure every ballot is counted. meanwhile, working to disseminate correct and truthful information after seeing a rise in disinformation put out by various conservative news outlets and a series of robo calls preying on nearly 80,000 residents in the state. jocelyn benson, michigan secretary of state joins me now. what are the kinds of things

that michiganers and probably similar to a lot of other americans, are getting that could be dangerous, that could compromise their ability to cast their vote? >> any information that is intentionally spread to sow seeds of doubts about how to vo vote, whether their vote will count and whether they can trust the results. scare tactics to cause you to question whether you're registered to vote or make you think if you vote by mail or vote early something bad may happen. that's simply not case. we set up a website michigan.gov/election security. it responds proactively to any type of misinformation like the robo calls you mentioned. then i partnered with our attorney general, a dynamic force, to ensure we're quickly responding and aggressively investigating any claims. >> let's talk about what the problems are that you are trying

most seriously to face. what are the issues that you foresee? what are you trying to get out there to change? >> well, first thing i want to mention, 4.7 million michigan citizens voted in 2016. we're on track, in 2020, to have more citizens vote, probably over 5.5 million citizens vote, more than ever before in michigan's history. and a record of number people, as you mentioned before, are already voting. voting by mail, voting from home. close to 1 million people will have already voted by monday morning when we look at the numbers. that's incredibly good for our democracy. now we need to protect those voters from misinformation. we ask them to send a note at misinformation spt michigan.gov. anything on social media that is designed to cause voters to doubt whether their vote will

count or whether they can vote one way or the other safely. we want to use every tool at our disposal to debunk it and ensure our residents are only hearing truthful information about their vote and our elections. >> what's the stuff that folks who haven't voted yet -- i spoke to several voters here. two out of the six have already cast their ballot. for those who haven't who are watching here in michigan, which are the ways they can vote? >> michiganers have more ways than ever to cast their vote. they can vote early at home, return a ballot in a local drop box, mail it back or drop it at their clerks office. they can vote right now early at their clerk's office. in detroit the clerk has opened 21 satellite clerk's office locations where citizens can go

to get their ballot and return it. you can close on election day. 30,000 new election workers to ensure every precinct will be open on election day and citizens can get all the information at michigan.gov/vote. >> i want to ask you about pennsylvania. a federal judge ruled against the trump campaign who had said that they didn't want these drop boxes there. now again, i can't understand why they don't want drop boxes and i don't understand why anyone is working to make voting more difficult but the judge said we need you to prove what you think is at risk by having these drop boxes. donald trump's remarkably weak argument is that we don't have to prove that in order to win this case. lo and behold, the federal judge says actually you do, and you didn't. so you lose the case, good-bye. there are drop boxes here. any particular danger in using drop boxes to vote? >> no. they're very secure. in fact, in some ways they're even more secure than dropping

your ballot off at a mailbox. we put additional security surveillance in place. ballots are picked up every day. they're not left overnight. we've placed 1,000 secure drop boxes across the state. hallmark of good election administration is making sure you're expanding access to the vote and increasing security provisions to protect the security of the process. we in -- my colleagues in pennsylvania and other states have ton exactly that with these drop boxes, creating drop box locations while secure ensuring they're secure through video and other means. your ballot will be received and counted. by the way, citizens can track their ballots just to ensure it's been received after they drop it off. >> jocelyn benson, secretary of state in michigan. >> thank you for being in michigan. >> it's always my pleasure to be in michigan and to be so close

to home, actually, look at it over my right shoulder. as you know, my favorite part here is that i host aid socially distanced conversation with six michigan voters about what is at stake this november. that conversation is coming up right after this. there's a picture of it. ♪ ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.

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♪ all right. that vessel you were just looking at is the honorable paul martin. it is a canada steamship line.

canada steamship lines was owned by the martin family, john martin became the prime minister of canada and they named that boat after him. the canadian border is just literally feet to my right, and on the right that you see over my shoulder is windsor, canada. on the left is detroit, michigan. there's a bridge behind me between them, the ambassador bridge, and it is the busiest crossing between canada and the united states. today, we are in our fifth location on the velshi across america tour. i am in detroit, michigan, the beautiful city of once the center of the american auto motive industry and the american music industry. trump barely squeaked out a victory in 2016, winning by two-tenths of a percent. tables may turn because now he's facing joe biden. i held a socially distant conversation yesterday in dearborn, michigan, with six voters from surrounding areas.

two of them registered democrats, two of them republicans and two of them independents. it was a remarkable conversation. we covered a variety of topics. i started by asking them who they're voting for and why. let's listen. >> i'm voting for joe biden and kamala harris. i'm a physicalition, and so i'm so alarmed by the lack of response to the single worst pandemic of our times. we're in michigan. when the virus started, we were one of the hot spots. we had the third highest number of cases. i work at a hospital in downtown detroit. we were overrun. there was no ppe. there were very little testing. our e.r.s and icus were overrun. we had patients dying by the thousands every day without any family with them, alone and afraid.

and our president did nothing. that's why i want to vote for joe biden. he understands that the physicians, the medical people, the public health professionals, they are the experts on this, and they will guide us. >> the reason why i'm voting for donald trump and mike pence is because as an arab-american, we've had presidents that have failed in the middle east and their policies in the middle east. the second reason i'm voting for is some of the economic policies he has instilled in this country sflt reason i'm vote r for joe biden is that he has a plan, not like our current administration. the plan we currently have, we're not fully aware of what it is. and that causes a lot of confusion and a lot of chaos. so i'm voting for joe biden because of the plan that he has. specifically surrounding student loan debt in this country. we have over 1.6 trillion people who are in debt with student loans and specifically 42

million americans have student loans. why hasn't anybody done anything about this? things have been done throughout the years but it hasn't really been tackled. that's important to me, my friends, and it's important to my family. also he has a plan with the affordable care act as well. he wants to have affordable care act number two. he wants to build on it and bring it back. all i heard from president trump is we want to repeal and replace the affordable care act. it has personally helped me. i actually had an opportunity to graduate from an ivy league institution and i came out with student loans. when i first came out, i didn't have the opportunity to get a job right away. i got off my parents' insurance at the age of 26 because i couldn't remain on my parents' insurance. so i was able to enroll into the affordable care act and have good coverage. and every american, they need the opportunity to have good health care. and i know my friends and family that do not have health care right now because it's expensive. he has a plan. that's why i'm voting for him.

>> i thought for a long while about not voting on the presidential line. i did that in 2016. but then i -- you know, your producers asked us all the issues that we're concerned about, and i did the assignment and then i said, wait a minute. there's job one. as a university professor i did a lot of work with nonprofits and with public sector organizations on the issues and i thought to myself the other day, i don't know of one organization i consulted with that if they had, as the ceo donald trump, the board would remove that person in relatively short order. every time i opened up my facebook in the morning, i feel as though i need to have sunglasses on because of the glare. my biggest concern, job one. there is no job two. job one is to settle down this country. the social fabric or to use meacham's term, the soul of america is at risk.

that's inarguable. we face this all the time. there needs to be a leadership change. >> i am voting for joe biden and kamala harris. i'm voting for them because my best friend died of covid. my cousin died of covid. i've lost several colleagues to covid. it didn't have to be this way. we saw this coming for a long time and we didn't prepare. and that's the president's fault. i have six children. my wife has a pre-existing condition. i have a pre-existing condition. matter of fact, six of our eight immediate family members have pre-existing conditions. there is no way i could possibly vote for a president that would strip down the affordable care act and strip out pre-existing conditions when he, himself, has a pre-existing condition and i wouldn't vote to destroy my family like that. all of my children are under the age of 26. at the very least they can be

covered under my health care. at some point they're going to surpass that age of 26 and fall off. they're going to bounce from job to job to job, getting new insurance every time. i don't want them to be denied coverage. >> i'm voting for donald trump and mike pence. i'm voting for -- first of all, i lean more towards republican and i believe that before republic republican, i'm an american first. and i believe that america is the land of opportunity. i would not rather be anywhere else in this world than america. i can just speak for my own experience of the freedoms i have had, my freedom of speech, right to bear arms. and this is nothing against anyone here, because i don't know any of you personally at all. but all i have seen from the left side is hatred for america. again, i don't know anything about anyone here, but what i have seen through the media is

hatred for america, and that makes me sad because there's so many different countries fighting to be part of america because it's a land of opportunity. >> the left don't hate america. we chose to come here. my parents chose to come here for a better life. my children no no other country except this. they are american. we love this country. just because we disagree with you doesn't mean we hate this country. we want to take this country back and make it the great country that it was. >> i have two regrets about that conversation. one is that you can't hear all of it and two is that i couldn't have spent another three or four hours talking to them. it was a remarkable conversation. you will hear more of it, by the way. i'll give you more of it in the next hour. still to come, an update on the coronavirus here in michigan. plus, a quick programming note. be sure to catch the television premier of "the way i see it" this friday, new documentary presented by focus features and msnbc films from the director

dawn porter, an unprecedented look behind the scenes at two of the most iconic presidents in american history, barack obama and ronald reagan, as seen through the eyes of the renowned white house photographer pete souza. the way i see it air this is friday 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. join weekends with alex witt. susan will give a preview of the documentary. you don't want to miss that. more "velshi across america 2020" after this. "velshi acros 2020" after this tonight... i'll be eating four cheese tortellini with extra tomatoes. [full emphasis on the soft a] so its come to this? [doorbell chimes] thank you. [doorbell chimes] bravo. careful, hamill. daddy's not here to save you. oh i am my daddy. wait, what? what are you talking about?

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looking at canada. behind the island is canada, but that's not south of the united states -- that's not north of the united states. this is one of the rare instances in which canada is actually south of the border. so, from detroit, when you are looking at windsor, canada, you are looking south. as the united states hits 50,000 coronavirus cases per day for its third consecutive day, the midwest is presenting itself as the largest public health challenge. just yesterday michigan had its highest one-day spike in cases since april, this comes one day after the state supreme court invalidated gretchen whitmer's coronavirus executive orders, merely put in place to curb the spread of the virus. republicans declared personal victory for freedom. meanwhile, despite the coronavirus chaos we've seen from the white house, i still wouldn't count on pence to

provide the most simple protocols. >> nice to see you. >> you can take the mask off if you're comfortable. it's your call. >> i'm going to keep it on. >> joining me now is a clinical assistant professor of family medicine and physical medicine rehabilitation at michigan medicine. dr. o, good to see you. thank you for being with us. i guess i want to ask you what you make of this situation throughout the midwest here in which wisconsin, some of the mid western states we're seeing higher numbers of reported cases of coronavirus than we've seen throughout almost the whole thing, across the united states. we're setting new records of infections. yet this white house continues to fail to abide by basic protocols. what do you make of it? >> thanks for having me, ali. thank you for joining us out here in the mitten. it's somewhat disappointing and not necessarily surprising.

we saw this months ago. people were worried about the second surge of cases that we were going to see and governors across the country have been trying to institute measures to try to curb that and, despite people's best efforts when we don't have a uniform method of trying to do so, we don't have consistency in the recommendations people are making it gives the impression this is something that is going to disappear and that's not true. we need a concerted effort of everyone being able to send that same message and that's just not happened. >> all across america we've seen some version of people who refuse to their masks around other people. i'm not close to anybody right now which is why i'm not wearing mine. in michigan we've seen for many, many mons the manifestation of something much more sinister, armed groups going to the statehouse. now this whole plot against your governor was about liberty from the restrictions having to do with coronavirus.

at some juncture for somebody like you, who deals in medicine, how do you combat this situation? is it something that the white house, the president and the federal government has to lead? >> you know, i think that's a good question, ali. unfortunately, individuals that have these pre-existing conditions, the minority populations, people of color, people of disabilities that are being disproportionately impacted. you can't tell looking at screen right now but i have a spinal injury and am a wheelchair user and the social impacts of social determinants of health as we call it. who they're actual taug about when they talk about these pre-existing conditions. as a person of color, person of disability, it was only because of my relationship with the

guardian insurance company that had insurance for me, that i even recognized sort of the population that's being underserved. yes, it does take the government. it does take every single state, city and county to be able to uphold this. this is something that is a widespread, worldwide pandemic. without individuals doing their due diligence and doing what's right, we're not going to be able to curb this. people drive across county lines, fly to visit their family members. a wonderful group is putting all their heads together to try to contain this as best we can within the limits of reality. we know students are going to get together but if we put in some safe structures, we can do that. at the university of michigan we're demonstrated that. everything that's not being

demonstrated across the country. >> doctor, thank you for joining me, professor of family medicine and physical rehabilitation medicine at the university of michigan. thank you, sir. i'll speak with gary peters and talk to him about the latest bombshell revealing how donald trump has profited off of this pandemic and in some cases intentionally in just a moment. intentionally in just a moment it was built on blue-collar, hard work. hard work means every day. getting it right. it's so iconic, you can just sit it on a shelf if it's missing, you know it. your family, my family, when they drink that coffee, and go "man, that's a good cup," i'm proud because i helped make that cup. ♪

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good morning. it is sunday, october 11th. i'm ali velshi, joining us this morning live on bell isle, in detroit, michigan. detroit is over my left shoulder, windsor is to the right. the canadian border is there. in th is velshi across america. key battleground states, giving voters a chance to share thair thoughts, minneapolis, kenosha, colorado, freemt, ohio, after the debate in ohio, and now detroit. next weekend i'll be on our southern border in arizona. today, we are drawing ever closer to decision day. november 3rd is 23