good morning. it is sunday, october 11th. i'm ali velshi, joining us this morning live on bell isle, in detroit, michigan. detroit is over my left shoulder, windsor is to the right. the canadian border is there. in th is velshi across america. key battleground states, giving voters a chance to share thair thoughts, minneapolis, kenosha, colorado, freemt, ohio, after the debate in ohio, and now detroit. next weekend i'll be on our southern border in arizona. today, we are drawing ever closer to decision day. november 3rd is 23 days away.

before i get started back here in michigan i want to get you caught up on the morning's headlines. since leaving walter reed hospital near ly a week ago whee he received treatment for covid-19, president trump held a campaign event at the balcony of the white house. the precise timeline of his coronavirus condition remains uncertain, last night an update from the president's condition in the form of a letter from his personal physician, dr. sean conley who wrote, quote, this morning covid pcr sample demonstrates by currently recognized standards he is no longer considered a transmission risk to others. i never want this dr. conley telling me anything about my life. all i need my doctor to tell me is straight up, negative, positive, sick/well, healthy/ill. this guy cannot dwiv a straight answer to anything. did dr. test negative or not? you can't get a straight answer out of conley.

he continued, trump has been symptom-free and fever-free for more than 24 hours. he did not mention the all-important question. it's a simple question. has donald trump received a negative covid test? in fact, on friday, my colleague, hallie jackson, asked the white house press secretary when his last negative covid test was. she asked five times and didn't give hallie an answer. truch spoke to a gathering of hundreds of his supporters from the white house balcony. they were expecting thousands, by the way. they got hundreds. while masks were required to enter the white house grounds, reporters noted that many in the crowd were wearing them around their chins. masks around your chins don't help. the crowd did not appear to be social distancing. if you thought donald trump's messaging on coronavirus could not get any worse, it can. >> through the power of the

american spirit, i think more than anything else, science, medicine will eradicate the china virus once and for all. all over the world you see big flare-ups in europe, big flare-ups in canada. very big flare-up in canada. you saw that today. a lot of big flare-ups but it is going to disappear and is disappearing. >> flare-ups in canada. it would be fun to actually compare canada's record with coronavirus to america's. the president should not use comparisons in canada to anything to do with this thing. he said it's going to disappear. he actually said that in february. that line was an embarrassment when he said it in february. but now with 215,000 americans dead and more than 7.7 million infected, including him, including his wife, including his press secretary, this is outright malpractice.

trump was doing his thing in the nation's capital, vice president pence was doing much of the same thing in southern florida. he had a rally at the villages. many of the elderly supporters in attendance were not wearing masks or social distancing. this video was posted to twitter by u.s. correspondent with the telegraph who reported and filmed multiple attendees needing to be escorted off the prepsz by ems after fainting due to the unmanageable conditions. our own reporter, amanda golden, was there and confirms it was from pence's event. he ignored her shouted questions whether it's safe for he and the president to do in-person events. president trump is going to sanford, florida, tomorrow. that's the example being set by this white house as new covid

cases and hospitalizations are on the rise in this country. we are, in fact, setting records again, all right? in fact, vice president joe biden was talking about this at a campaign event in pennsylvania yesterday. >> america deserves a president who understands what people are going through. you're facing real challenges right now. the last thing you need is a president who exacerbates them. >> meanwhile, gop's objection of openly ignoring covid guidelines, the republican-led senate is revolting against efforts to offer a new economic relief bill. secretary steven mnuchin was warned spending as much as $2 trillion on a big bill could

backfire at the ballot box. they continue to move forward with the supreme court nominee confirmation hearings. barrett submitted a letter to the senate judiciary committee on friday showing she had previously signed on to an ad that referred to the roe v. wade ruling that legalized abortion as infamous and called for the unborn to be protected in law. okay. so quite a bit on the docket in the week ahead. this state was pivotal to donald trump's win in 2016. he won it by less than 11,000 votes. now, four years later, joe biden leads trump by double digits in the latest michigan polling unfortunately, though, michigan has been in the spotlight for another reason this past week, following an alleged kidnapping plot against the state's governor, gretchen whitmer. 13 men have been charged as part

r of an ongoing fbi investigation. whitmer, who has been at odds with president trump, over his role in inciting dange ining wh supremacist groups discusses how dangerous it is. >> to bomb our capital killing democrats and republicans alike and to kidnap and ultimately put me on trial and kill me as well. these are the types of things you hear from groups like isis. this is not a militia. it is a domestic terror organization. >> all right. last night as part of a new wrinkle in this case, nbc news reporting barry gordon croft, one of the men arrested in the alleged plot and the only one not from michigan was parpded by delaware governor john carney in

the spring of 2019 for multiple criminal charges, including possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony assault and burglary. we'll get more on that story as we learn it. joining me now is democratic senator gary peters of michigan. senator peters is the ranking member of the senate homeland security committee, running for re-election against republican john james here in michigan. senator, good to see you. thank you for being with us. your role in the homeland security committee is relevant on this topic, and your work on dealing with armed militias. nothing is more prominent than you're a senator from michigan in a week that is something i did not think we would be talking about. it's not unprecedented that we've had terrorist attacks of this nature in america, but the idea that we have active militias who are looking to abduct your governor and possibly kill her, attack police

stations, attack the state house stretches the imagination. what do you know about where we stand right now with the situation? >> you're right, ali. thank you for coming to michigan and thank you for standing in front of that beautiful city of detroit from bell isle. it's an amazing place. you're absolutely right about what happened this week and how outrageous it is. my role as the ranking democrat on homeland security committee we've been seeing increases of the alcohols by white supremacist groups, anti-government groups, anti-semitic groups. domestic terrorism is on the rise. we've seen that over the last few years, this last year in particular when you look at the murders that have been committed by domestic terrorists, in the 90 plus percent of all of those. we need to focus on it. that needs to be a complete focus. i've been pressing this administration to understand clearly we have to be prepared

against the terrorist act. when i asked the acting secretary of homeland security and fbi director, the main terrorist threat, they both confirmed domestic terrorism is the main terrorist threat against americans today. we need central intelligence from federal sources, what we saw here in michigan was a great example of the fbi working closely with the michigan state police to thwart this horrible, potential attack. it was brilliant law enforcement work, central and state governments coming together to do it. we need to step up our game. unfortunately this is increasing. >> kudos to the michigan state police and the fbi for the work that has been done. the fbi, if not the administration, indeed take this is seriously. i want to talk to a new very detailed, bombshell piece in the

new york times that draws once again on donald trump's tax records and shows that the president has earned millions through his hotels and resorts specifically from people and companies seeking political favors. the article is aptly headline the swamp that trump built. "the timintimes" found special interest groups and foreign governments that patronnize mr. trump's properties while reaping benefits from him and his administration. nearly a quarter of those patrons have not been previously reported. 60 customers with interests before the truch administration brought his family business nearly $12 million during the first two years of his presidency. it's a very long and detailed article with lots of juicy tidbits. what's your reaction to this reporting? >> well, the reaction is that we need to toughen the rules to make sure that this type of behavior doesn't occur.

we know folks, foreign dignitaries, for example, who come to washington to meet with the president like to tell him they're staying at his hotel property. we know that goes on, on a regular basis. clearly when it comes to ethics reform, we've got to step up and make sure we have tougher rules in place so this does not happen now or as well as in future administrations. the integrity of the u.s. government and the fact that folks will be divorced from these types of activities, i think, is essential to having legit massy and to understand that a president is focused on what is best for our country and our national interest as a country as opposed to perhaps thinking in the back of his mind how does this help his business interest. that's simply unacceptable. and we're going to need to lean in to make sure we have the proper ethics reform going forward. i certainly hope we have a new administration. i believe the biden administration will clearly be

involved in that and i will continue to work on that through the committee. looking at these kinds of activities is essential to the work i do in the senate now. >> senator, good to see you. thank you for joining us and thank you for the warm welcome to your state. senator gary peters. new news out of the south carolina senate race. a staggers $57 million was raised in the third quarter. that haul is a record for a u.s. senate candidate, bringing his total to $86 million, far outpacing his opponent, republican incumbent lindsey graham. senator lindsey graham has been on fox news asking viewers to

donate to his campaign because he has been killed money wise. harrison will discuss his new haul and state of his race with my colleague jonathan capehart on "am joy" at 10:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. michigan has become the center of one of the biggest national news stories in recent months. the plot to kidnap its governor, sounds like something from a movie. unfortunately this is very, very real. you'll hear from michigan voters next on this. first how to help the country from two independent voters. >> respect all people. be a statesperson. make us all proud of being americans. the question really becomes what can you do to make sure that we sustain excellence? and your leadership is absolutely required because it sets a tone. >> i would say mr. president, it is essentially that you restore the dignity, the respect and the

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we are on bell isle in michigan, off the coast of detroit, in the detroit river between michigan and ontario. one of the most beautiful cities in america, detroit. one of the most historic. the home of the ougauto industr. the home of motown. not only is michigan a crucial battleground state that could likely decide the election next month but it became the focal point of literally one of the craziest news stories in recent history, the plot to kidnap and potentially harm governor gretchen whitmer. as we planned to be here this week i asked my panel about what they thought about the head of their state becoming the target of violent militias. watch. >> i think what happened was absolutely disgusting, what they tried doing to her. i think it's absolutely despicable. just because i agree with governor whitmer, i would not vote for her again to be our governor, i think it's actually

disgusting and i think whoever is responsible for that should be prosecuted for sure. >> i think it's unfortunate that people use their freedom of speech in this way, that they feel as though they have to plot against the governor because they disagree basically with her practices and they disagree with what's she's doing. she has had many executive orders in place. she's tried to contain covid-19 in michigan. here in michigan alone we had over 7,000 deaths from covid-19. there's over 220,000 deaths of covid-19 in this country. so having the shutdowns was something that she felt was necessary to do. and it did help actually with lowering our numbers. and so it's unfortunate that some americans don't agree with, specifically in michigan, some michigan residents don't agree with her practices and procedures but to take it out in this way is very sad.

>> whenever anybody tries to take a life, it's a terrible thing. the president takes a different take on it. he denounces the governor. he doesn't try to send help. and he sows the seeds of social unrest by his words and his actions. the president's words matter. people listen. he is the leader of this country. and he doesn't denounce white supremacists. he allowed the unrest to continue happening and inkroits violence in some ways. i am an indian-american. i am a brown woman. my children are brown. i am afraid. for the first time in my life i am afraid for my and my family's life and what will happen if he decides that he is going to cause more unrest to get votes. >> i say it's disgusting, it's sad. i think it's a symptom of the hate that's been pushed in this country and the division. i don't think that would have

had happened if we had a male governor. they did that because she's a woman and they disagreed with her. these are terrorists. they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. but what disgusts me more is that our current president, instead of lifting up the disgusting nature of this, chose to attack our governor and say that they disagreed with her. we also had a sheriff out at a rally with the same people that were arrested. so we talk about the police did share job in arresting them. the police are on the stage with them. this is a symptom of a much larger problem and donald trump is that problem. >> so let's face it, i don't agree with governor whitmer, but a militia group like that trying to attack a human life, i think it's very, very disgusting. those militia members, as they claim, they are also hating on freedom of americans in this country and also they are hating

on donald trump. donald trump was the one, and his administration and law enforcement, to catch these criminals while the governor is trying to defund police. in that aspect, we need to give law enforcement credit that they were the ones that apprehended these criminals and now they must facious. if they don't physical justice, justice will not be served and this attack can happen anywhere in america. that's why these are not americans who tried to do this. these are terrorists. >> there was a time i thought democracy was at risk. now i believe democracy is in peril. what we have, what we share say democratic way of doing business, of engaging. and that's eroding. this is an egregious example of it. of people not being able to -- when they disagree, not being able to even begin to find

common ground. so they engage in an act like that. again, i think it's a warning for this reason, too. this is not a threat from outside the u.s. this is something that was done -- i mean, one of the persons who was apprehended lives ten miles from me. this is coming from within. this is not about them. it's about us. as i said earlier, if we don't understand that job one is getting back to what it means to be america and an american and engage each other democratically, what else is there? i mean, that has to be job one. >> let's go a little deeper on that, what it means to be american. whether you describe that as your existence or the american dream, i think i want to ask you all what you believe it means to be american. >> to me, being american is the most proudful thing ever.

to me it has to deal with honesty and pride. having pride in your country. having provide in your leadership having pride to live in a country where it is the land of the free. >> it means i could get in my car any time of the day and drive in piece without being ambushed, taken as a hostage and without fearing for my life and knowing we have law enforcement in this country protecting us and knowing i'm in a safe country. unlike other country, like my country, lebanon, where my parents emigrated from. they emigrated from violence and corruption. >> the fight against tyranny and the fight against othering other people.

we've all come from all walks of life and all countries into this space. this is a true melting pot. i believe to be an american is to fight for togetherness and unite as one. >> i believe as an american, it means you have your right to your own opinion. worry all capable to have our own opinion and voice our own opinions. all of us sitting around here right now have different opinions but one thing we have in common is that we're americans. >> i felt privileged for being n american. i'm sorry for the rest of the world who is not because this is a country where you can come, become something, work hard and feed your family, where you can be safe on the streets, where your children are okay. these are the fundamental values. i can be a woman who walks on the sidewalk at night and not worry, but i am worried now

because i think those fupd amountal values being pushed aside by bigotry and racism. and we need to stop that and come back together as the country we once were. >> what a privilege i have to travel across america every week and have these conversations with voters across america. i will continue next week in arizona. coming up next, speaking to michigan lieutenant governor garvin gilchrist. buzzing over the vice presidential debate and a surprise third guest that took the stage. and, of course, it got the royal comedy treatment. >> that is how president trump will make the economy better, by making it worse. >> i'm sorry to interrupt, vice president pence, there's a -- >> war on police in this country? i couldn't agree more. >> no, no, there's a -- there's a giant -- >> lack of respect for militias?

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♪ are you aware that these protesters called for the governor to be lynched, shot and beheaded? >> no. well, there are a lot of protests around the united state states. >> back in july, the attorney general bill barr dismissed threats and potential danger facing governor gretchen whitmer after hundreds of protesters, including some with firearms, stormed the state's capitol building. fast forward three months and we know those threats were anything but empty.

13 white men several with ties to anti-government groups face charges for their roles in the allege plot to kidnap the governor and possibly harm her. the attorney general of the united states has been silent. silent, which actually says a l lot. of course, trump has yet to denounce or condemn these men or the violent acts they were allegedly set to commit. it's not his thing actually to do something that's decent or compassionate, leaving the state's governor saying trump is a threat to the safety of every american. garvin gilchrist, lieutenant governor to the state of michigan. this is your hometown. as our camera looks at you, you grew up just a few blocks back from here. this is a beautiful state. it has a lot of issues to face, but this is a new one. when you were booked on my show we didn't know this was happening. you have actually seen these protesters at the state capital. that's where you work.

>> absolutely. thank you, ali, for coming to michigan and speak about this important issue. we saw two of these armed terrorists, these gang members with my own eyes in the gallery of the michigan capital with semi automatic weapons months ago. >> semi automatic weapons in the gallery of the capital? >> yes. michigan is one of only two states where you can actually bring guns into the state capital and the only reason you bring a semi automatic weapon into an institution is to intimidate lawmakers or worse. they planned to take hostages, recruit 200 people to storm the capital and put the lives of lawmakers but not just the lawmakers but the children who come to the michigan state capital to learn about their government like i did as a 7-year-old, every single day. they're so reckless and dangerous. it cannot be tolerated and it starts at the top, with the president of the united states. >> one of my panelists compared this to violent protests of the social justice movement mentioning antifa.

we haven't seen any picks identified as anybody with antifa but how do you distinguish that for people? how do we make clear what protest is versus these militias, which have a very different flavor to them? >> one group of people who have been calling for justice, equity and inclusion wants the government to serve them better. another group of people wants to kidnap and murder the governor, wants to put lawmakers in danger and one group of people has been enabled by the president and in the michigan republican party, the leadership who, while they were in the capital with guns, went and met with them, fraternized with them. that is dangerous, cannot be tolerated. calling for justice, we will always do that and be part of the democratic process, not try to disrupt it. >> when you look around countries that struggle with maintaining order, the idea of armed bands roaming around,

anti-government bands, must be one of the most destabilizing things in the world. if i were the attorney general of america, this has to be one of my top three things. the attorney general, as you saw in that testimony, did not seem to be aware of the fact that there were militias in michigan and they pose an actual threat. what do we have to think about this week? this week a lot of americans are realizing these aren't gun clubs. they're something more serious. >> the attorney general of the united states should take a cue from the attorney general of the state of michigan. when she was aware of these threats and how real they were, she took them seriously. there are state charges on here in addition to federal charges. at every level of government, every level of society, we need to reject these notions of hatred. the reason they wanted to do this to gretchen whitmer is because we have been working to keep people safe. one of those guys were upset because he couldn't go to the gym. instead he wanted to murder something. that is not what we should be

about in this country. we're got going to let fear stop us. we're going to continue to work, to govern, to protect people. i led a march of 200 people to go vote in detroit yesterday in response, in part, to this kind of notion. democracy can defeat these destructive people. >> we still have coronavirus. these militias had some beef. i don't know. they said it was a liberty issue. but, in fact, they are anti-government. the bottom line is that there's a discussion in michigan, prompted in large part by president trump, who tweeted liberate michigan at one point a few months ago. some people think that's sending a message to these groups in positions, controls with having to stop the spread of coronavirus take away people's civil liberties. the fact that you and i are standing here wearing a mask, largely to keep each other safe, i don't see it as a freedom issue but some people do. >> the fact that all of us are

not able to get the testing we need in every single community. people of color have been disproportionately impacted and are still fighting the hardest against this virus. unfortunately we need to come together to do difficult things. that's what michigan has been all about, since the inception of our state. we will always do that. just because something is hard doesn't mean -- rather than t e taking it and going home they took a gun and went to murder somebody. that is not the way we need to respond. the majority of michiganers, the majority of americans are going to buckle down, work hard, do what they need to do for themselves and their communities. when we do that, we will get past covid-19. that is how we will defeat those who have been enabling these kind of terrorists and that's how we'll move forward as a society. >> thank you for having us here in your hometown. we wish you and your fellow legislators, stay safe.

>> thank you. the federal government wanted to block an injunction that barred federal agents from dispersing, arresting, threatening or assaulting journalists and legal observers who were documenting the portland protests against police brutality. 9th circuit court has denied the attempt. injunction says federal agents deployed to portland protests must wear prominent markings to make sure they can be identified and held accountable. this is a major, major achievement for the freedom of the press and your ability to hold your government to account. also today is national coming out day. coming up next, how decades of fighting for equality has empowered so many americans to live their own truth. and even as the nfl is doing its part, the league is doing its part, the league released a video encouraging its players and staff to be open and share

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deception. in 1969 when police raid aid small gay bar in new york's greenwich village, a black transwoman of color fought back, a movement that would start a drumbeat into social acceptance. becoming pioneers who came out and lived openly for the rest of the country to see. they included san francisco supervisor harvey milk. >> i will fight to represent my constitue constituents. i will fight to represent the city and county of san francisco. i will fight to give those people who once walked away hope so that those people will walk back in. >> year over year, the lgbt community gained ground on legal battles not always winning in the courts but furthering the cause of justice and equality for all. first it was the repeal of anti-sodomy laws, then marriage

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♪ released a statement addressing why it did not oppose in 2019 the pardon application of one of the men charged with the attempted kidnapping of michigan governor gretchen whitmer. quote, the prior administration did not oppose this application because barry kroft's criminal history was more than 20 years old and appeared to everyone involved that his offenses were in the past and he had gotten himself on the right track. needless to say, nobody, neither the department of justice another the bipartisan board of pardon ons would have endorsed a pardon had they known what the future held. end quote. as election day nears michigan is facing a growing issue with voter intimidation, fake robocalls and a challenged united states postal service,

all this with just 23 days to go amid a coronavirus pandemic that is spiking in this state. joining me now is the representative for michigan's 14th district, by the way, where i am right now is michigan's 14th congressional district, congresswoman brenda lawrence. great to see you again and in person. >> good to see you, too, and welcome. >> this is your place. >> yes. >> this is as a canadian we are neighbors. >> yes. >> but we are literally feet away from canada. >> yes. >> you before your congressional career and before you were the mayor of south field, you were a postal worker for an entire career. >> yes. >> you spent 30 years in the postal service. >> yes. >> detroit is a historic city, it's a particularly historic city for african-americans. >> yes. >> people came up here for jobs, many of them in the auto industry, but many of them in the postal service. this was a ladder career for african-americans. >> in the african-american community we had this huge migration from the south and if you landed a job in the postal

service you were considered a professional, you had a career, and it was one that allowed the ladder to middle class, for african-americans, being able to buy a home, send your kids to college, and it was a secure job. and that's what was so wonderful about it, you never heard of layoffs or going out of business. if you had the postal service, you had a career. >> and to some extent postal service still populated much higher than the average workplace percentage with african-americans, which makes some people feel that the targeting of it doesn't -- it feels like it's motivated by other things sometimes. >> well, we look at so many things. you have to understand the righteous appointment of working for the post office. you are a career person, you take an oath to serve and protect. you are in the constitution. you are not just cleaning a floor. you are a career government

needed necessity of our government and so when you start talking about dismantling that, that's why you heard this huge cry from all over the country, wait a minute, stop, back up. what are you doing? because we are the only -- the only agency, the only business that touches every single home in america. >> right. >> six days a week. >> no matter what the weather. >> no matter. >> they don't get time off, they are front-line workers in the pandemic. >> yes. >> your district has been hit by a whole bunch of things. >> yes. >> the postal service issues, the auto issues that have been going on around here. >> yes. >> and covid. >> yes. we were one of the hardest hit -- i can't tell you how many people i know who died. i have friends who own funeral homes and they were buying trailers to store the bodies. they couldn't process them fast enough. and so when you talk about what happened to governor whitmer who did everything in her power to save this state, to keep people

alive and to see this unlawful militia movement, it is -- it is so unacceptable. when we are dying and burying in the black community, we didn't even have a chance to grieve because we couldn't even have funerals and you're going to say that you are infringing upon my freedom when all we're trying to do is keep people alive, it's so sad that individuals -- and if i could just push a button here that for me is so unacceptable. black men are being killed with no weapon and you have white men standing there with not just guns but military assault weapons and there's a conversation happening. you know, people -- you know, the president said there is no racial disparity. really? you're going to put -- i mean, not just one, but a whole sleeve

of ammunition. so if you are shooting and you run out you get more. and you're going to walk around and come in my face and argue with law enforcement, where a black man can be running down the street and he's shot in the back. i mean, that's why in america we say this has to stop. >> well said, congresswoman. thank you for being here. thank you for welcoming us so warmly into your own district and we look forward to speaking with you again. >> the great lakes environment is so important to us. look at what we have. >> it is a beautiful, beautiful place. here we are just off the shores of the city of detroit on belle isle in the middle of the detroit river across the road from windsor. that does it for me unfortunately for this particular installment of "velshi across america." thank you for watching this michigan edition. next week i will be live from yet another border town but this time on the other side of

america south of tucson, arizona. you can catch me here every saturday and sunday morning from 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. eastern. coming up on "a.m. joy," jonathan capehart is joined by minnesota representative ilhan omar and former 2020 candidate and south bend mayor emeritus pete buttigieg. happy sunday. you are watching msnbc. sunday you are watching msnbc ♪ ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.

we are producing powerful therapies and drugs and we are healing the sick and we are going to recover and the vaccine is coming out very, very quickly in record time as you know, it's coming out very, very soon, but it's going to disappear. it is disappearing and vaccines are going to help and the therapeutics are going to help a lot. good morning and welcome to "a.m. joy," i'm jonathan capehart. in his first public event after being hospitalized for covid-19 donald trump addressed hundreds of supporters from the white house balcony at a campaign-style event on the south lawn. his words and actions saturday sent yet another dangerous message to the american people, don't be afraid of the disease that has now claimed more than 215,000 american lives and is still spreading throughout the country. in a memo late saturday night the president's physician said trump is, quote, no longer considered a transmission risk