♪ good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, be ready, america. as we enter this final stretch before election day 2020, we sound the alarm tonight. what remains of this cycle may take an even darker turn, one based not on covid-19 but america's most original plague because if we learned anything from the arrest of those lunatics in michigan charged with allegedly planning to kidnap and kill its governor, it's that white supremist violence conveniently reduced to flags and swastikas in popular culture is now in plainest

sight, in the street, in our statehouses. and if complicit is violence, well, then what's most worrisome is the reaction of president trump to the moment because imagine for a second that a group of islamic terrorists tried to kill a governor. he would have expanded his muslim ban to include americans traveling between states. imagine that a group of mexican immigrants tried to kill a governor. trump's border wall might actually be reality instead of a scuttled campaign promise. imagine if it was a group of black lives matter protesters that tried to kill a governor. oh, cousin, trump might actually try to ban the color black or replace "in god we trust" with "law and order." but because it was, in fact, a

group of white supremists who tried to kill and kidnap a governor, one who defied him, trump decided to attack that governor, one, because anything else would send the wrong signal to his base and, two, because he sees no dichotomy in invoking marshall law for left-leaning protesters and turning a blind eye to right-wing terrorists. but more on that later because we start tonight with the presidential election just three weeks and a day away. joining me now, joe biden's senior adviser, symone sanders. thank you for being with us, ms. sanders. >> thank you for having me today, rev. good to see you. >> good seeing you. let me ask you before i get to the white supremist conspiracies

in michigan, tomorrow they start the hearings on new supreme court nominee, nominated by president trump to sit on the court and fulfill -- or fill the seat, i should say, of judge ruth bader ginsburg. and there's been a lot of talk about what the democrats will do or not do, and i know your campaign is not in that. but has there been a position taken because it seems that former vice president biden and nor kamala harris will not say one way or another about whether if they do fill this seat, that they are for expanding the court beyond the present nine members. >> well, rev, this is the question of the week, and i am here to echo what both vice president biden and senator harris have said. you know, our position is frankly the position of the american people. the american people believe that

we should first fill the seat in the white house, allow this election to go forward and hear the voice of the american people before we fill that seat on the supreme court. and so vice president biden nor senator harris have engaged in these hypotheticals about, you know, if they would -- what they would do pertaining to the supreme court because we're not going to have the conversation, rev. our focus is on the voters, and we do not believe this nomination should be going forward. we believe that the next president of the united states -- and we believe that's going to be joe biden if folks turn up and turn out over the next 23 days -- should fill the seat on the supreme court. >> but the question is if they go forward -- and appears they're going forward tomorrow, less than 24 hours away -- and they do succeed in getting the votes to seat her, will then they be open to those that want to see the court expanded? >> well, rev, we're not going to engage in a hypothetical

conversation. we're going to cross that bridge when we come to it. right now we are focused on the voters, rev. we believe that the voters should have their say in this election. and, again, we're with the american people. the majority of the american people do not believe that this seat should be filled because people are voting right now. you know, we've often talked about what's happened in past elections. and in past elections, there was a question of being in an election year, but we're not just in an election year, rev. we're in the midst of americans voting. >> no, there are people actually voting right now. all right. well, as you said, it was the question of the week. i thought i would see if i could get you to be a little more direct. but let me go to another question. the debates. the president said he would not debate virtually. it was a waste of his time. i think the last debate he wasted our time, but that's my opinion. then we see the president saying

push the debate back a week, and he would do it in the other week. where are we with the debates, and where is the campaign in terms of their commitment? do you want the next two debates? under what circumstances do you want them? what is the position on the remaining two debates as far as the biden campaign is concerned? >> well, rev, back in june the biden campaign, along with the trump campaign, agreed to three debates set forth by the commission on presidential debates. now, vice president biden was ready to show up on october 15th in miami for the second debate, which would have been a town hall format. but president trump has decided he doesn't want to participate in that debate. he has said he's not showing up. but joe biden, he is continue to take questions from the american people, and on that evening he will be holding a town hall that will be nationally televised where voters can tune in and hear from him. so there will not be a second debate on october 15th because

president trump has decided to, you know, change the game or try to change the rules in the ninth hour. we are committed, though, rev, to show up on october 22nd for the -- what would have been the third and final debate. now, we're encouraging the commission on presidential debates to make that debate a town hall. since 1992, every presidential candidate in a general election has participated in a town hall-style format as a debate, and we believe that should be the case here. but we're going to commit to show up to the debate on the 22nd, and now if president trump decides not to show up again, we will have to cross that bridge when we come to it. >> let me go back to how i opened. the militia, 13 members arrested and charged with wanting to start a civil war, wanting to kidnap and kill the governor of michigan. if joe biden becomes president, i've outlined here what this president has said.

what will be different if, in fact, you are success and joe biden's president? what in a biden/harris administration can the public expect how they will deal with white militia groups? there has been any number of reports the greatest domestic threat of terrorism is white supremists, and this administration has done nothing about it. what could we, especially those of us in the black community that are targets of white supremists -- what can we expect from a biden/harris administration? >> well, rev, joe biden and kamala harris believe that america should not be a place that gives hate safe harbor. and unfortunately we know that domestic terrorism, hate has -- you know, has never fully gone away frankly. it only hides as the vice president likes to say. but it has been brought out from the bowels and the corners of our country into, you know, broad daylight if you will for everyone to see. but under a biden/harris

administration, that is going to change. look, joe biden is going to lead by example. we're going to hold folks that commit hate crimes, white nationalists, white supremacists accountable. but also joe biden is going to ensure that he is a voice of calm, rev. i think, you know, while obviously president trump -- you know, he is not directing any of these militias or domestic terrorism groups, if you will, because that is what it is. let's call it what it is. but his words are giving them safe harbor. if you remember during the time that, you know, militias had taken up arms in the alcohol ca lansing, michigan, against gov whitmer due to her covid protocols, it was president trump who tweeted liberate michigan. this should not be happening in the united states of america. but the commitment that is the bid biden/harris campaign is making is that joe biden will be a president that is a voice of

calm. his justice department will make it a priority to ensure we're not giving hate safe harbor in america and we're holding folks accountable. >> all right. i'll leave it there. thank you, symone sanders. joining me now are two political strategists, republican susan del percio and democrat joel payne. also msnbc medical contributor dr. natalie azar. let me start with you, dr. azar. the president has announced that he is going to hit the road this week. he's making appearances. we saw some letter or note from his doctor that frankly it confuses me more than clarifies things. as a medical expert, from what we know, because wee se seeming can't find out when the president was first found to be positive in a covid-19 test, what was he last negative?

from what we know, the timeline and all, do you think it is healthy for the president and for those who would attend his gatherings for the president to be out this early? >> well, you hit the nail on the head with those two questions, rev. there's really two parts to this answer. one is how safe is it for the president, and the other is how safe is it for everybody around him? we are using as the onset date of his symptoms as october 1st. individuals with mild illness, we think they need to remain in isolation for about ten days. that would bring us to october 11th. and we also worry about the seven to ten-day period after symptom onset where if they are going to deteriorate or take a turn for the worse, that's going to happen. so he has satisfied that sort of critical window, we think, right now of that period of time where if we're concerned about him doing worse, that he's likely not to. but i will say as a caveat that

this applies to, again, people who have milder illness. he's older. we know that. his weight, his underlying, you know, comorbidities place him at a higher risk, so much so that he, in fact, did transition into what we would have categorized as severe disease in that he needed treatments for severe disease and he required oxygen as well as hospitalization. so that seven to ten-day period of concern, we get a little bit more cautious about that. now, whether or not he's currently infectious, well, experts have interpreted the conley memo from yesterday and have said that basically he's not likely to be contagious right now. is he completely covid-negative? no. the innuendo or the immrimmr. plication is his pcr was still showing remnants of virus. but another newer test that they've done, which is a proxy or correlate for live virus that

would make him infectious is, according to them, negative. >> then what, susan, would motivate this president, with so many open questions that dr. azar has raised -- why do you think he has the need to not only come out, but come out with an aggressive schedule all over the country that could, in fact, cause a relapse for him and could possibly, given his age and weight, make him go back to where he is, in fact, infectious no matter what his doctor has said about whatever the likelihood or unlikelihood of that is? >> fear, rev. it comes down to fear. the president is petrified of losing. i think his legal tunnroubles a much worse than we know about. it's been reported he believes he's the only one who can rally his supporters to get him over the top come november.

the numbers don't support that in that he is so far behind and trailing in so many different categories. but the fact that he's willing to put potentially his life on the line shows you just how afraid he is. >> now, joel, the president has also talked about what susan refers to, fear. the president has put out a statement that even dr. fauci had to come out today and say that they distorted his words. i mean are we dealing now with political desperation? >> oh, i think we're way past political desperation. i think susan makes a great point. and we have to remember this started as a national security crisis, and it's transformed into a public health crisis. i mean the president is literally a super-spreader, who is walking around and putting his supporters at risk, putting his staff at risk. he might have even, by god, put joe biden at risk at that debate two weeks ago. and so this president has shown that he prioritizes politics. he prioritizes winning above all

else, even over the health of himself and others around him. and by the way, it is hurting him politically. i was listening to rick wilson, who is an adviser to the lincoln project on a podcast recently. what rick said was that their numbers showed a quick spike against the president with seniors right after the president's covid diagnosis because seniors feel insecure with this president at the helm of the ship. they do not feel like this president has stepped up to the moment, and they do not feel like he's got the fortitude and he's got the plan to actually lead us out of this crisis that we're in right now. >> now, susan, what do the republican senate candidates do? you know, right now the president is way behind in some polls, closer in other polls. but it will seriously impact a lot of the senate races. are we seeing any of them begin

to distance themselves from the president? are they going down with the ship? >> no, they sure are -- some of them are certainly running away. for example, look at martha mcsally in arizona, which is now considered up for grabs, the state. she's been down in the polls for a long time, and when asked would she embrace the president and his policies, she said, i'm fighting for arizonans. she is moving away, as is joni ernst. you see a lot of people trying to move away. the problem is we're 23 days away. you can't move that far away. the only thing if they actually want to show some independence would be to say, i want to wait until after the american public votes before we take a senate vote on amy coney barrett. now, that would be a sign. otherwise, they are tethered to him, and guess what, rev? donald trump is taking everyone down with him. >> now, joel, let me push on that particular point.

the hearing is scheduled to start tomorrow. they're rushing this. they have not come with a covid relief bill. they've not dealt with other issues, but they're rushing this even on a federal holiday they're going to start the hearings to show you how much they're rushing. a lot of things are closed, but they're open to start this with judge barrett tomorrow. how will this hearing, and if they go forward with a confirmation with judge barrett -- will it affect the politics of 2020 in terms of the presidential race, or is this just beltway stuff and the voters won't pay attention? >> oh, you better believe it will affect the politics, rev. you know, had the senate republicans and mitch mcconnell and president trump spent an ounce of the energy that they've spent trying to steal another supreme court seat -- if they spent that on passing a relief bill around coronavirus or doing something for people who are

literally struggling every day, the only fight they're having in that senate caucus is about not spending too much money to help the people that they've squandered the fortunes of. so their properties are all out of whack, and i think how this will affect the politics is this will demonstrate to voters who are thinking about their vote -- because, again, voting is happening right now. it will demonstrate to voters who's on their side and who's not, and it is very, very painfully cleer that these republicans have made a decision that power is more important than justice and power is more important than stepping up for people in their moment of need. >> dr. azar, the president says that the virus disappears, that they have a vaccine or something that will be imminent, and this will all disappear. you are the health expert on this panel. is that even possible or even reasonable in your judgment to suggest to the public?

>> the fantasy that the virus was going to disappear with warm weather or for whatever other reason flew out the window months and months and months ago. this virus is going to be here until we have an effective vaccine that is used and taken by enough of the population, good therapeutics, and continued mitigation strategy, including mask-wearing and social distancing and hand hygiene. it's not going to be one thing. it's going to be all of those things on top of a much more robust public health infrastructure that really concentrates on the containment phase, which is testing, isolation, and contact tracing. it's not going to be one thing. it's going to be multi-modal,

and it's not going to disappear. we are going to make it become less. i don't even know what the word is for us. it's not disappearing. it's not magic. >> thank you, susan, joel, and dr. azar. coming up, what president trump's supporters are getting wrong about his new favorite catch phrase. but first my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. good day to you. stories we're watching for you this hour. heavy rain and independent withes head aide wards. it's what's left of post-tropical depression delta. that storm slammed into louisiana friday as a category 2 hurricane. it brought powerful storm surge and flooding before weakening inland. cleanup started in louisiana meanwhile. 100-mile-an-hour winds ripping through homes there. over 600,000 people are still without power. covid-19 cases are on the rise in new york. governor cuomo on friday discussing red zones, these areas contribute almost 20% of all positive cases statewide over the last three weeks. this week over 1,400 new cases

occurred. the state's total case number now over 480,000. nationwide, that number now surpasses 7.7 million. the death toll from the coronavirus right now, over 215,000. more "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. no tomatoes.. [hard a] tonight... i'll be eating four cheese tortellini with extra tomatoes. [full emphasis on the soft a] so its come to this? [doorbell chimes] thank you. [doorbell chimes] bravo. careful, hamill. daddy's not here to save you. oh i am my daddy. wait, what? what are you talking about? ♪ ♪

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for today's "i gotcha," i want to talk about the president's favorite catch phrase. take a listen. >> law and order. they said, don't say law and order. that's too tough a term. they say, sir, say law and order very lightly and then say, and safety and liberty and this -- i said, no, no. it's about law and order. >> of course as with so many one-liners beloved by fans of this president, they don't actually believe in it. so many people are quick to shout about law and order when

they see peaceful demonstrators declaring that black lives matter, which by the way is both legal and orderly. some people even escalate beyond mere shouting, like this now infamous st. louis couple, who was so enraged by legal, peaceful protests, that they decided to take the law into their own hands, pointing loaded guns at the protesters as they marched past their home. and while the republican party embraced this brazen lawlessness, rewarding these two people with a speaking slot at their convention, the foundation of law and order is the fact that the law applies to everyone. and so this couple has found themselves indicted on firearm and evidence tampering charges. it's no wonder some supporters of this president think they can take the law into their own hands. they're just following trump's

lead. this is a man who has always treated the law as more of a suggestion that doesn't apply to him. just last week he encouraged his supporters to engage in illegal voter intimidation from the debate stage, and that tacit endorsement illegal means to achieve his ends has spread insidiously from mainstream republicans all the way to right-wing extremist militia groups. in the most egregious example yet, 13 men were arrested this week for planning to kidnap and possibly kill the governor of michigan. and somehow in the wake of this stunningly lawless plot, that law and order mantra has mysteriously vanished while the president whines about not being thanked for the fbi's successful takedown, his supporters who love to crow about law and order

this summer while black folks were protesting for our lives has fallen silent. these people want to have it both ways, to wield the law as a cudgel against those they disagree with even when no laws have been broken, and to ignore the law with impunity whenever it suits their purposes. they claim to be patriots while flouting one of the most foundations of the american experiment -- equal justice under the law. and while i'll be the first to admit that the american justice system has not always lived up to that lofty ideal, it doesn't mean you take the law into your own hands by brandishing weapons, intimidating voters, or plotting kidnapping. no, if you're looking for a wtor your grievances, may i suggest a

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evangelical christians have a long history of supporting the republican party. in 2016, an overwhelming number of evangelicals voted for donald trump, 80%. joining me now is reverend dr. franklin w. richard -- w. franklin richardson. he's the author of "witness to grace: a testimony of favor" and the senior pastor of grace baptist church in mt. vernon, new york. dr. richardson, you also head the national conference of black churches. as well as you chair my organization's board. so you deal with a lot of different aspects of the faith community, including the evangelicals. do you feel that the evangelical

community in any way, particularly those blacks i think that we established that according to one poll, 6% of evangelicals are black. do you see any erosion of that support for this president? >> well, you know, i wish i could say i do. i do not. i don't see -- i don't see erosion. as a matter of fact, i'm devastated by the fact that his conduct has not impacted their appreciation for morality that they preach of, what they speak of, that his language, his approach to what he says about people. it's amazing to me how they just give him a pass. they have priorities that are other than jesus's priorities. the jesus they know, i know nothing about. the jesus that they know ignores -- and i'm sure that's not all evangelicals, but those that are more vocal and leading

and aligned with this president, they care more about judges than they do jesus. so it's a real difficult time to see the church in this position, but it's not surprising because we have seen from the beginning of this country the church align with the oppressor. the oppressor stood on the front pew in the congregation that oppressed the people. they have the model for their behavior in the pharisees who said they are white on the outside but full of dead man's bones on the inside. it is a contradiction, a heresy what the evangelicals do what they were talking about family values, but now they can ignore all of that and sweep it under the floor and become something totally different. i really don't understand, and i don't see them backing away from their position unfortunately. >> senator harris took aim at vice president pence during the debate over matters of faith and abortion.

watch this. >> first of all, joe biden and i are both people of faith, and it's insulting to suggest that we would knock anyone for their faith. i will always fight for a woman's right to make a decision about her own body. it should be her decision and not that of donald trump and the vice president, michael pence. >> now, harris called out pence for implying that those who believe in pro-choice are not religious or devout christians. is it time for american christians, whether we be evangelical, catholic, or protestant, to debunk this narrative and to say whatever our beliefs are, that people have the right to make their own decisions and that we not impose whatever our religious beliefs on other people. that's not converting them. that's compelling them. >> that's clearly where we ought to be at this moment in this discussion. i think that the discussion has got to be broader than just abortion rights. i think it has to be if you're

for life, not just life in the embryo, but life in the streets after the baby's born, after the baby can't get housing, the baby go to jail. we can't just be caring about an unborn and ignore the life and quality of life of those who are already born. so i think we want to stay away from that. everybody should have their own religious choices, but they ought to recognize that we live in a country where everybody has a right to an opinion and that we operate on the consensus. and i think -- i think america is maturing in this way. i understand the statistics are over 60% of americans affirm the current policies that are existing. >> let me ask you in your book, you really talk a lot about overcoming odds, having grace, and being able to rise in your

situation, which has been the role of the black church specifically. and your journey is compelling. that was one of the reasons i wanted to give you a chance to talk about your book and your story because it is critical in this time that we're dealing with gun violence and a lot of young people seeming to have no direction, that people understand you didn't start out as the chairman of boards and the pastor of a huge church in westchester county. you had to overcome odds. >> without question. and i think that's the reason why i wrote the book. i want to communicate to people who feel down and who feel that the deck is stacked against them that, in fact, they can overcome and that when we overcome, you know you can't see grace going forward. you can only see grace looking back. we go forward in faith, but we look back over our shoulder to see grace of god. most of us have a sensitivity to

understand that all of the good comes in our live, that we didn't deserve, that we have gotten blessings that are far beyond our capacity, far beyond our work, far beyond -- if it weren't for the grace of god showing up in our lives. i acknowledge it in the book, and i encourage young people, i encourage us all to be able to point to the grace of god in their lives. grace is present in every person's life. it's just sometimes we are -- our vision gets cleared and we're obscured to god's presence in our lives. so i've encouraged our people to understand that sometimes the road seems difficult. the burdens seem hard. but we can overcome if we stay focused. >> now, you entered virginia union university, and you had to prove yourself to even stay there. now you're the chairman of the

board. has this administration kept its word to historic black colleges? >> i'm glad you brought up the black college. you know, if it weren't for the black college, i would not be here talking to you today. i'm here because i was a -- i was a student in west philadelphia high school that was socially promoted. when i got finished, i couldn't read. they told me i wasn't college material. i flunked out of community college in philadelphia, and then went to virginia union, and they gave me a conditional mat ricklation and put me in remediation. and then they made sure that i made it forward, and i went on from there, went on to yale, went on and earned degrees, traveled around the world. 35 years later, i'm chairman of the board signing the degrees of all those who graduated. you talk about this administration. to be honest, there's been some increase of financial support to

black colleges under this administration, but it does not in any way make up for the terrible lack -- you know, most historically black colleges have been treated as second-class educational institutions. >> mm-hmm. >> so we're trying to catch up. we're 400 years behind. you take schools like in virginia. let's take virginia. in virginia, you have schools that have resources. they are private schools. they have multi- -- some of them have billion-dollar endowments. and virginia union, for instance, has been a school for 152 years, struggling since slavery, and it's $34 million in endowments. so, you see -- >> it's got to close that gap. >> it's going to take more than one administration to fix this problem. >> all right. i'm going to have to leave it there. the book is out "witness to grace." thank you, dr. richardson. >> thank you, al. >> thank you for being hon. coming up, if you're elected

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welcome back. with the presidential race dominating the headlines in the lead-up to november 3rd, it's easy to forget there's a lot more on the line than the presidency in this election.

whoever ends up in the oval office come january, they will have to work with a new congress, one that has the potential to be the most progressive congress ever, at least according to mondale jones, candidate for new york's 17th congressional district, who would be the first gay black man to serve in congress if elected. joining me now is mondale jones, democratic congressional nominee for the 17th district in new york. thank you for being with me first, mr. jones. >> thank you for having me. >> let me ask you this. you recently tweeted, quote, we must not only win the election, we must win the reconstruction. what did you mean by that? >> well, i meant what i said. you know, we had a reconstruction earlier in

american history, and it was an attempt by people of good conscience to right the wrongs historically in this country with respect to race, slavery being the main culprit. unfortunately those people were not successful. we know due to literacy tests and poll taxes and oftentimes white terrorism, we didn't quite get to where we needed to be. so now we're in another national crisis. we are seeing unprecedented challenges, things like nearly 100 million people either uninsured or underinsured with respect to health care, a student debt crisis to the tune of $1.7 trillion nationally that leaves, for example, thousands of people in my district in westchester and rockland counties saddled with debt and not able to live on their own, owning a home or renting an apartment. we know we are on the brink of climate catastrophe because people have failed to act with the urgency that issues

requires. so we need big structural changes to meet those challenges. that's why i'm so proud to be running and be part of what will be the most progressive congress in american history. >> let me ask you this, mondaire. i said that if elected, and you're in a democratic district. it is likely that you will be. you'll be the first black gay in congress. in my book that i just brought out, i did a whole chapter on we've got to get rid of homophobia in the black community. did you engage in having to deal with homophobia in your race because i think you winning that primary in and of itself shows that we are coming of age though it is not a black district so to speak. there is a large black populati population, that one day a gay black man would not have won a drea democratic primary in that district. >> i was never running to be the first black openly gay member of

congress, but the power of representation is not lost on me. i never imagined that someone like myself could run for congress, let alone be victorious. had i been able to see someone quite like myself in congress, it would have been direct evidence of the fact that things really do get better later in life in a world filled with so much injustice, that there would be a place for folks like me. you know, reverend sharpton, today is national coming out today. it's also not lost on me that we are on the brink of unfortunately confirming what will turn out to be a 6-3 hyper partisan majority on the supreme court that will undo things like marriage equality and other civil rights for members of my various communities. >> and you've proposed expanding that court. is that not right? >> i am very proud to be one of the most vocal voices in support of court expansion even before getting elected to united states congress. i've been writing about that for the tragic passing of our

legend, ruth bader ginsburg. for a long time now we have had a hyper partisan conservative majority on the supreme court that is hostile to democracy itself. and the idea that we would then go and make that a 6-3 hyperpartisan conservative majority is unconscionable. forget how you public option, we know there are now enough votes on the supreme court to strip down the affordable care act. >> well, i'm going to have to interrupt and leave it there, but hopefully you will be back many more times. and i'm glad you got in about your advocating expanding the court because that is something that has been discussed and you have been very clear on your position. mondale jones, the democratic candidate and most predict the next congressman in that district, 17th congressional district. thank you for being with me. >> up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. us hard.

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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next week and at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, my colleague, alicia menendez picks up our news coverage. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez coming to you live from miami, florida. tonight, the president's claim that is impossible to prove. he says he's free of the virus, just hours before campaigning again in public. when, where, and the new polling explaining why team trump appears desperate to rally the troops. also tonight, a hectic week ahead on the hill. there's a new snag to tell you about in efforts to pass more covid relief and pandemic or not, it's time for a supreme court showdown in the senate. this is "american voices."