thanks for watching. the "the reidout" with joy reid starts now. okay. deep breath, america. deep breath. we are now 19 days away from the day that we begin counting the vote. november 3. the country is gripped by a raging pandemic that is killing 800 americans a day. 25 million americans on some form of unemployment. millions are struggling to pay for food, utility and rent.

protests continued across the country over what seems like a stream of police brutality against black and brown people. a wounded but unbroken country is looking for leadership in the guidance. on one side former vice president joe biden has traversed the counted arguing donald trump is unfit, unhinged and a danger to american values with no plan to put this country back together. >> the days of the businesses. will soon be over. we can build a more perfect union. >> on the other side, trump is selling a cornucopia of

incoherent thoughts strung together by personal grievance. and authoritariantism. >> you're the most famous person in the world by far. i said i'm not. yes, you are. i said nope. they say said who's more famous. i said jesus christ. they talk about the glass ceiling. the woman breaking the glass ceiling. and it didn't work out that way. the glass ceiling broke

>> there's a reason why he can't string together a coherent message. according to to the "washington post" a lost standsing challenges converged to a barrier to his election. the unability to drag down biden's rating. and a pandemic that continues to unend american life. 15 million have cast ballots. a now "wall street journal" polls find biden leading nationally by 11 points. last night the biden campaign announced it raised $338 million last month alone. trump is facing a slew of well funded outside groups trying to take him down. take for example the project which raised $39 million. over the past three months. in a few moments we'll have a

look at their new ad. joining me from the lincoln project. senior adviser and executive director. and professor of journalism and politics at morgan state university. this has been a very weird, weird set of terrible.

some it's i don't like senator harris. i'm more important than jesus. i'm a miracle worker i'm super-man. he has no coherent message. unfortunately it makes it difficult for republicans to run under him to come up with a coherent message. biden says i'm the same one to bring country back together. this is arguably the most incompetent presidential campaign i have ever seen or studied in my life. he's not rin running a campaign. he's trying to consolidate and steal things and suppress the post office. >> it's 2016 and joe biden is hillary clinton.

>> hillary clinton should not even be allowed to run. bitden is a corrupt politician who shouldn't be allowed to run for the presidency. >> hilary gets rich. making america poor. >> the biden's got rich and america got robbed. >> she owes you an apology. >> you owe the people of america an apology. >> the hilary the crooked hilary. it's the crooked joe. >> i'll note people who knew trump on the apprentice. he can memorize a few lines. and did that again. let me play that as a contrast. welcome to the show. this is the new ad and i appreciate you debuting it tonight on the "the reidout." here is a part of you guys new closing argument ad. >> imagine a young girl looking in the mirror. searching for a role model in

the world to give her hope she can make a difference. imagine how she feels watching women being verbally attacked. >> what a stupid question that is. i watch you a lot. you ask stupid questions. >> me lined. >> this monster on stage with pence who destroyed her. >> belittled. >> i know you're not thinking. you never do. >> i look her in her fat ugly face. >> daughters absorbing that message. in frnt of your eyes. a different future for her. a future with a president who doesn't just value a female voice, but chooses one to be his right hand woman. a strong man with compassion. unafraid to take on a bully. >> it's a good ad. it's moving. i recall at the close of 2016 ad. hillary clinton closing argument was ad was similar. our children are watching.

and played a lot of little girls listening to donald trump insult women. including a part of the now infamous october 16 tame. the grab them by the -- tape. that was the closing argument ad. is this intentional? this is sort of mirroring presi.

who em bodies integrity, honesty and empathy. sin tierty, diligence and

morality. trump is none of those. we want to highlight that and show americans of who trump is. the example he is setting for children. and with that with a biden harris would look like. we didn't do this to many ir ro mirror what she did in 2016. character and morality is important. >> thanks for being here. among the women criticizing trump is the daughter of rudy giuliani. has spoken out and say i may no pandemic. mistreats women. and trash tracks evangelical behind their back. have we reached the point the

men of the republican party need to have the courage of rudy giuliani's daughter? >> it is really something. when you look at it right now. that women are leading the way here. women are leading the conversation. people of color are leading the conversation. and the white men that we're trying to get to see the light. when you talk about that lincoln project ad, i don't think anything is more persuasive to a father than seeing the world through his daughter's eyes. the world the daughter will have to live in the and move forward and throughout life. it's such a compelling spot. it's not just we want women to respond to this. we want men. we want the father figures to see what the world really looks like. when someone that powerful talks down to you. and says you can't do something. you're not good enough or worthy enough. judges you based on ridiculous

things. it tells you everything that women and people of color. we have talked about many types. they got there a long time ago. we're trying to get everyone to catch up. >> we know we have had a republican congressman. that called aoc the b word. i'm not sure people look at this that way. we'll see what happens. for black men -- what trump is doing. begging women, white women. please vote for me. and i kept the blacks away from you. the end part of the i got nominated for a pulzer but they're not talking about it. all they're talking about is your stupid fields dying

at a higher rate than anybody in the country from covid-19. that he cares about us. it's insulting. the second thing is this, we saw this with ice cube now. we saw this with jim brown and steve harvey. this idea that black celebrity men some seem to think if they go and kiss the ring with konld trump something will get accomplished. cube, we have joked i'll never

eat with the president. snitches get stitches. he met with the biden campaign and trump campaign. biden didn't talk about him having a meeting. the trump campaign did. they snitched. they put his name out there. and now he's got to do damage control for 24 hours. before he looks like a sell out. that's what trump does to black men. he will use them, take advantage. throw them out in the cold and when he gets in trouble he has nothing to say. that's the lesson of what ice cube did. he made the same mistake. you can't show up in the last five minutes and expect change from a white nationalist. >> he will remember he made the song f the police. i don't know who ice cube is. another person from the lincoln project the mash tag is ettd. look it up. cube.

keep that in mind. thank you. >> up next. as trump and his lackies were ensuring americans covid-19 is under control. privately they were telling rich investors rends a different story. they cashed in and millions fell into poverty. former mayor buttigieg joins me. on that point next. up next. with a new column -- autumn surge in cases. he's spreading deadly misinformation. >> did you see the cdc? 85% of the people wearing a mask catch it. >> wake up call about complacency in the election and what's at stake. atlanta mayor and beto o'rourke join me. i relearn to read about this. be join me. i relearn to read about this

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>> to take down bha is left of the republican party with him. i don't know if you can have it both ways. which is what senators including senator sass are supposed to be doing. or clearly intending to be doing. the fact he put this out low key. knowing it would be talked about online. and on tv.

didn't come out in the speech. wouldn't say it to the president's face. like chris christy comments. he put out a memo. which on its face reads thoughtfully. the consequences of the virus were wildly random and extremely serious. or something like that. a common sense stuff in there expressing regret about going to the white house unmasked. but says what we need to do is put partisan ship aside and everybody who is in a position or responsibility needs to tell everybody to practice social distancing and wear a mask. okay, but has he told the president that? i don't know if republicans can keep having it both ways. >> yeah. that's called coward is generally. speaking of hypocrisy. mitch mcconnell. this is trump and mcconnell both talking about whether or not they should pass a bill to help people. to help people get through the economic catastrophe caused by

trump's mishandling of covid-19. >> at this point, do you expect to get a stimulus package of any kind? >> there's a chance. i do. the republicans are willing to do it. i'd like to see more money. it comes back. >> the administration is willing to go. we laid out a half a trillion dollars. so that's what i'll put on the floor. >> mayor pete, this is a guy mitch mcconnell who laughed in a debate. when he was confronted with the fact that they haven't passed a bill since july. one could have been sitting on his desk to help people. we know that gop strategists are talking about behind the scenes and consulting with senate campaign said that republicans have been carefully laying the ground work to restrain a biden administration on federal spending and the budget deficit talking of concerns about the price tag for another round of virus relief. the thinking is it it would be hard to agree on spending

trillions now than january. they don't think they can get away with a bob and weave on that. what do you make of the fact republicans are trying to not help the economy because they're afraid it would help biden and put him in a stronger position economically next year? >> it's politics first all over again. even the george bush administration accepted responsibility during the transition to the o obama a administration. during the sensitive months to make sure stimulus was being prepared and pushed through. here it is just raw, naked power poll tix. from people who don't care about how everybody is doing in the community. it's un. the president doesn't seem to agree with the gop senate president can't agree with himself. he's tweeting it was just

medication talking. he wants to go big and smaller than we did. it's incoherent. at a moment when real life is at stake and can't afford for their to be an incoherent in the president or gop. >> really quickly, we are out of time. but i know you were one of the first out to say the supreme court should be expanded. do you think that joe biden is that something he would support? it would be up to the senate. if they went democratic. >> i think my views haven't changed. we have to continue finding ways to depoliticize the court. that speaking for myself and what i know is we have a huge fight on our hands to protect healthcare and the things at stake. with this seat open now. that most americans agree with joe biden and me that it ought to be the next president who makes the decision. that's the fight in front of us.

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many more infections of vulnerable people and lead to hospitalization and death. i think that we have to look ha square if the eye and say it's non-sense. >> today the u.s. surpassed 8 million known coronavirus cases. dr. fauci joined the chorus of public health experts sounding the alarm on herd immunity. being embraced by the white house. including trump coronavirus fwu rue. the radiologist with zero background in infectious disease. this idea which trump mislabeled herd mentality. boils down to the government throwing up its hands and saying everybody catch it. the weakest will die and the rest will magically become immune. it's denounced. it would involve millions of death. the approach tracks with what we have been seeing from trump. his rejection of science and hatred of mask and contempt for

medical experts. perhaps terrifying if he actually had no strategy at all. >> what happens if you get a big spike in cases in the united states. and cases are rising -- >> we're not doing anymore lock downs and we're doing fine. >> joining me now. dean of the brown university of public health. we have been hitting this a lot lately. thank you for being here. we have learned last week and reported on this, the health and human services secretary had done this meeting. he put out tweets knowing he has been talking to he said three distinguished infectious disease experts to discuss. tweeted that out saying it was strategy. and named a couple of them. we then later learned he was meeting with this group from something called the great baring ton declaration of

scientists. signed a declaration and strange names and fake names signed it. johnny bananas signed it. and it's all about herd immunity. from what you have seen over the past several months, do you see the administration just actually trying to implement herd immunity even with their own crowd? >> thanks for having me. what we have seen out of the administration is a can i be the pattern of trying to find simple solutions to a complex problem. for a little while it's hydroxychloroquine. then don't worry these are cases. no one will get sick or die. and i think the latest is herd immunity. that is really because it seem it's easy. you don't work at it. you let people get infected and hope for the best. the problem is it won't turn out well. we'll have hundreds of thousands, millions of americans dead.

and it may not work. we don't know how long immunity lasts. we could have millions die. and everybody else be susceptible because it immunity doesn't last. it's a terrible idea and it may not work. >> this is what has been reported. in the "washington post." an official told reporters in a briefing monday that the proposed strategy supports what trump policy for months. we're not endorsing a plan. the plan is endorsing what the president's policy has been for months. they talking in circles is not explaining what they're doing. what they're doing is gathering people together in the white house and at the events without masks on. discouraging use of mask. mocking people who use mask. and mocking reporters who try to protect themselves. it is functionally what they're doing. at minimum they gave up and this is the way to go. the world health organization

director said on monday about this idea. >> never in the history of public health has herd immunity be used as a strategy for responding to an out break. let alone a pandemic. and allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. it's not an option. >> this is a map showing the increases. 36 states showing increases in kaes cases. are you concerned the way we're going we're not going to get out of this vicious cycle? anyone who listens to donald trump which is about 40% of the country. will refuse to protect themselves and others. and the other 60% will try. and then both will come in contact with each other at target. and it keeps going around again.

>> yeah. the misinformation that's been coming out of a lot of sources around this virus i think is absolutely atrocious. and i agree this is unethical. it's awful. and there's no reason we should be pursuing it. the problem you bring up is complicated. we have 40% of americans a large chunk who don't wear masks and don't believe in science. the information contradicts that. this is where we need policy makers to step up. even if it's not the federal government we need states to act. governors and mayors to follow the signs and do the right thing. even if not all of the constituents are doing it. it's critical they step in. >> a lot aren't. florida. i don't know what else to say. it's good talking with you. meanwhile. all signs are pointing to

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one ride california doesn't want to take. i think we have seen enough chaos. >> i think this is our time to get it right. >> there was no way i was. >> that's part of what we need to be doing. >> it's worth it. it doesn't matter. we have to spend the night we'll stay out here. >> we have to vote like our life depends on it. this is for real. >> the passion is real. for voters in texas and georgia. who started early voting this week. joined by north carolina. and all that enthusiasm made for long lines at the poll. 16 million americans have voted. wow. with more voting comes more of

the predictable to try and deter and stand in voters way. by republicans. after blaming long lines in georgia on high turn out alone. the republican secretary of state acknowledged the computer check in system couldn't handle the load. and said still work to improve the speed. in texas republicans have been fighting tooth and nail to limit the numb of votes cast. you knew that. especially harris county. the largest. where they challenged every effort to make voting easier and safer in a pandemic. today a texas state court issued an injunction blocking governor order limiting mail in ballot drop off locations to just one per county. governor has appealed. that decision. i'm joined by the mayor of atlanta. and former texas congressman beto o'rourke. thank you for being here. the excuse that has been given by the secretary of state in

georgia, i think it makes people suspicious. given the former secretary of state is the governor. and got there through a means of people don't think was democratic. do you trust the system that are operating in your state right now for voters? >> thanks for having me. what i would say excuses are incompetent. we have been through elections before. the primary season in june. it was a disaster. we had ample time. we put off the primary in june twice. and only to get to june to have it be a complete disaster. and we saw that monday. thankfully a lines were better and have improved over the past few days. to open up with early voting and have a glitch that we have. across the metro area and the state. it's really unacceptable.

and the excuses are just that. they are excuses. >> same thing in texas. the reason we want you both on tonight is because texas and georgia are two of the most important really swing stapts. and haven't been swing states in a while. early voting 128,000 people in the. and we talked about this before. 1 million votes cast on just the first day of early vote ng the largest county. in texas. you see 1.65 million votes cast as of yesterday. nearly a million in georgia. that is 13% of the georgia electorate. already having voted. i don't know the percentage in texas. same question. the fight against drop boxes and everything that would make voting easier has been relentless. you have been competing court

decisions in terms of ballot drop box. are you confidence the systems will allow everyone who wants to vote to have the vote counted? >> here's the telling story. i just left the phone bank that jump on your show. for a young woman. running for state rep in harris county. about half the voters that i called told me they already voted. turns out harris county on the first day alone had 128,000 votes cast. which was a total for the state of georgia on that same day. so despite the voter suppression tactics and the voter id law and gerrymandering and voters are turning out in record numbers. they doubled the 2016 turn out on monday. and doubled the greatest day of harris county history. the county clerk there, the

county judge. they have invested in access. 24 hour voting. drive through voting. ballot tracking application. voting super-centers. they and the people of texas are over coming the suppression. that's the true story kp the positive exciting story. >> mayor, it is exciting to see people voting. and enraging people have to stand in line for hours. that's not the way it should be in in a first world country. in georgia, counties that have a lot of black folks in them. are see egg the long lines. studies show being black is the biggest predictor of having to stand in line. for a listening time. how are you advising voters in particular. in your city. and the biden campaign. you're a surrogate. to think about the ways to communicate with african-american voters on how to over come that?

>> remind people of history. people died for this right to vote. and people endured so much more than an inconvenience. we are asking people to make plan for so many people. it's about having to take off work or get child care in order to vote. on top of that one day voting plan. we're telling people make several plans. things may not work out the first time you attempt to vote. we have to push through it and go out and vote. in atlanta, if you are in full ton county. go to the arena with the hawks. it has been a tremendous benefit to the voting process. people can go to the arena. wait times were short today. parking is free. we're giving city employees up to eight hours off to volunteer at polling places and try to

assist. we're telling people and reminding people vote if your life depends on it. our future depends on it. it's worth everything we have to endure to make sure the vote is counted. >> i'm masks. to go back to texas, congressman o'rourke, there is almost no state that is most aggressive, other than the governor of georgia, other than the governor of georgia. it's epic. the texas tribune is reporting that in harris county, they tried to make it easier during the pandemic for people to vote and here's what the republicans did to try to fight it. the battle lines were acknowledged in one of the many areas attempting to rein in harris county's efforts to expand voting access. as texas goes, so too will the rest of the county. as goes harris county, so goes the rest of the county.

being very open they're doing this to make sure donald trump gets re-elected. i don't know how you fight that when the government of your state is fixing all of the rules to make it all but impossible for people of color to vote when that's the rising majority. how do you plan for that? can you help me out on that? >> you're right. in addition to removing the absentee ballot boxes, you have the most aggressive voting decisions. it gutted the voting rights act. you have what is described by federal judges as a racial gerrymandering and over the last eight years since shelby, 750 polling places have been closed, concentrated in the fastest growing black and latino neighborhoods. the thing is we as democrats do not have power to fix this yet but what we can do is win these

statehouse elections, win a majority this year and have a majority that can dismantle the voter suppression in texas. that's why these elections are key and we're phone banking. that's why anybody can call 866-our-vote and we'll have someone who will help them make sure that their ballot can be cast and that their vote is counted. so we're going to do everything we can now, but it's super important that we win these elections so that we have a majority that can make our democracy work. mayor u beto o'rourke, thank you and we're proud. thank you. a cold, hard look at what is really at stake in this election. tonight be sure to tune into the "rachel maddow show" at 9 p.m. eastern.

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so i think you pretty much have gotten the message that there is a lot at stake in this election. as we head towards the end of round one when we start counting votes on november 3rd. rounds two and maybe three the undemocratic round that had to do with lawsuits and the electoral college, well, the more votes that get on the books before november 3rd, the less

painful and dangerous those rounds will be. literal literally everything is at stake y'all. our basic right to vote ever again. whether the last shreds of the voting rights act will fall or whether we can rebuild the act that john lewis bled for. whether or not 20 million people or 7 million with pre-existing conditions, including everyone who has had coronavirus, whether they'll lose their health care, that's at stake. whether or not thousands of little kids who fled here from central america with their families will ever see their parents again, that's at stake. whether or not our friends and loved ones saik sex marriages will remain legal in all 50 states and lgbt civil rights in general and whether women will lose the right to control what happens to our own bodies is at stake. whether or not poverty and want will continue to overtake this country with an out of control

pandemic wrecking small businesses, driving millions into unemployment and pushing people into the street after losing the roofs over their heads, all at stake. and our lives, our lives are literally at stake in this election because of covid. so go to planyourvote.org and please check your voter registration deadlines. tomorrow is the last day to register in nebraska. sunday is the last day in illinois. monday, october 19th, is a big one, the last day for voters in south dakota, pennsylvania, michigan, and alabama to sign up. if you're more than the one of 15 million people who already voted, god bless you. if you can find the time to be a poll worker or help drive people to the polls, with your mask on please, please do so. now most of you who watch this show already know exactly who these candidates are. you don't need more information tonight or any other night.

all you need is the will to save this country, so please, please, please vote. thanks as always for watching. we'll be back, back at it tomorrow, on "the reid out." have a good night. this is an nbc news special presentation of "today" with savannah guthrie. >> tonight donald trump in the arena. his first primetime network appearance since falling ill with coronavirus. >> i'm feeling great. i don't know about you. how's everyone feeling? >> with tonight's debate canceled, the president faces our questions live and hears from voters about their concerns in the battleground state of florida. >> it's great to be back in my home state, florida, to make my official return to the campaign trail. >> with just 19 days to go, the president makes his case. >> my goal is to