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candidates are hitting the trail this week in key battleground states. a bit later this hour, the president heads to michigan and wisconsin for rallies tonight while joe biden after holding a drive in rally in the motor city yesterday will be campaigning in north carolina tomorrow. we're going to go over those stories and more with our team of reporters and analysts coming your way. we'll go to that women's march in washington. my colleague is there. she's joining me on the phone. it got really loud and you were moving around the last couple of hours. what's the latest from where you are? it's alex, can you hear me? >> reporter: alex, hopefully you can hear me right now. we are on the phone and we are on the move. we're trying to stay away from the crowd. keep socially distant. we have our crew ready to set up at the supreme court of the united states hopefully here

pretty soon. we have seen -- it's got to be at least 10,000 marchers if not more. they are making their way up to the supreme court of the united states. walked almost the two mile journey. i know that after this they will head over the national mall where they will begin their text-a-thon. what we are about to see over at the supreme court is possibly duelling protests, if you will or duelling marches, duelling groups. we're learning of another group that supports the nomination and w we're told they have been camped out in front of the supreme court and we also have couple thousands people that are part of other groups, including black lives matter. we're seeing this kind of coming together of different groups here. all part of the women's march. the second women's march of this year. just two and a half weeks out

from the lebs aelection and vot tell me they find it's increasing important to come out even despite the pandemic. we have not seen one person that does not have mask on. i have to apologize, i'm a little by winded bau eed becaus walk. hopefully we'll bring you another update on camera. >> you're excused for being winded. perfectly understandable. thank you for joining me on the phone. we appreciate that. more than 1.3 million ballots cast in north carolina, the biden campaign is getting a celebrity boost in their effort to mobilize ert voeling. >> reporter: we had the leave that event because it was pretty quick. we came back to our polling site.

actress kerry washington is in d durham about five miles down the road really trying to get turn out, get voters, democratic voters excited to head to the polls in this early vote section. north carolina is a two battleground state. both camps know that. most people think the president cannot win the white house without winning north carolina. democrats need their voters to turn out. republicans need their voters. democrats are relying on a lot of these disaffected republicans who are no longer going to vote for president trump and instead will vote for joe biden. here is one of those voters. >> the fact is that since the beginning of the pandemic, in my opinion, donald trump has shown absolutely zero leadership in addressing the single biggest domestic crisis we had in 100

years and followed that in showing zero leadership in addressing the george floyd murder at the end of may. when i wrap all those things together and i think about the legacy for my grandchildren, there's no way i can vote for another four years of donald trump. that's why i'm voting against my party but i'm voting for my country and supporting joe biden. >> reporter: full disclosure. mr. popen is my college roommate's father and i have known him for many years. he's been a republican voter. to hear him say that is really astonishing. the organization and these republican voters think that north carolina is a state ripe with those voters. the highly educated research triangle which is where i am in this charlotte suburbs.

excitement is abound here in north carolina. there's been record breaking early vote numbers. you can see these democratic activists behind me really trying to excite the vote at this early polling place in durham. >> let me tell you, i have a family member who has never voted anything but republican in their entire life and this person voted for joe biden this election. i am fell off my chair when i was informed of that. i have to say so the reaction from your college roommate's father is not surprising. okay. thank you so much. let's go to trump campaign and the president is insisting on hosting large rallies despite concerns they could add to the growing number of covid cases across this country. shannon, let's get to what's next on the schedule. >> reporter: he's heading to michigan and wisconsin today. of course, wisconsin is one of those states that's seen a surging number in coronavirus

coronavirus cases and hospitalizations as well as certain parts of michigan where he's going to stop before then. here is what she had to say. >> so we are routinely looking at covid numbers in respective states. dr. birx has travelled the country. she's aware when there's embers and fires. we address those as they come. we have surged testing. with a surge in testing you will identify more cases but we're attune any time we see a peak or spike in cases and our goal is to put that out. the task force is meeting each and every day. we have our doctors out on the air waves and in local media addressing these communities directly. >> as far as these rallies, the campaign is not putting any additional safety guards if place since the president's

infection and since his infection of so many of my aides and staffers as well as a rl ra in minnesota where health officials have linked 16 cases to that rally. despite that, the campaign continues to make masks optional. they hand them out. they are mostly out doors but the president had one event in florida yesterday that was inside of a hotel ballroom. it was entitled protecting america's seniors but it was inside this ballroom where a lot of people weren't wearing masks. we're continuing to see much of the same actions and attitudes by the white house and the campaign even as we see these growing cases coming into the fall and really a lot of areas like wisconsin being on the brink of a health crisis. >> thank you for that. joining me now, abigail tracy.

daniel straus. chris lou. i always say, i did say deputyd. ? >> you did. >> we'll get to you in a second. daniel, to you first. this final campaign stretch. why is this different than 2016 or is it not different enough to say that it's now desperation for the trump camp? >> it's different for a lot of reasons. one is this race has been incredibly static in a cycle of relentless news. there's been breaking news after breaking news. joe biden has kept a very solid margin of about five to seven points both in national polling

and state polling. then the president had a record of governing. that is in contrast to 2016. finally, there's the fact that we have an ongoing pandemic which puts the focus for voters on their immediate health. this is not a concern. this is not foreign policy. this is about the economy and health akrosds tcross the count. we can see there's something to be lacking, some voters feel. >> you summed it up quite well the difference between four years ago and now. let's listen to something the president said last night. >> running against the worth candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me. could you imagine if i lose? what am i going to do? i'm going to say i lost to the worth candidate in the history of politics. i'm not going to feel so good. maybe i'll have to leave the country. i don't know. >> does that qualify as a really

strange strategic approach or is that fear, disbelief and narcissism on display? >> i think definitely the latter. i think it's absolutely a strange message for the president to be hinting in the final stretch of the campaign. one of the things that president trump really should be focusing on right now is his message. we're 17 days out from the election and it's still very unclear what it is exactly he is running on. what are his goals for a second term? he hasn't made the case as to why americans should vote him back into office? i think for him to say he's running against the worst candidate in history, really raises questions as to what his messaging is and if he will ever colease around the message as we approach the election. >> good point. this comes as axios reporting about finger pointing inside the trump campaign as to who is to blame. doesn't it seem like the fingers should just point at trump?

an incumbent usually has an inherent advantage in re-election. he seems to have erased that. as daniel was pointing out, he has a record to run on. >> i think the pandemic up ended any message he could put through. i think he was preparing to run on the economy. he is still failing at the response to covid-19. we still do not have a national testing and tracing strategy. that is required. if you look around the world, you see other countries implementing those strategies and succeeding. the countries that are not doing that are having spikes and dealing with issues as we head into flu season. i think essentially, he lost his message because he failed to understand that the economic collapse was inhernently tied

with the pandemic. once we got into the summer and he wanted to open back up, even though he had not taken the reck sit steps to be able to do so safely, we entered the perfect storm. i think it's going to take the united states a change in leadership and actually having a plan. we still don't have plan. i can't believe i'm sitting here in october and there is no testing, national testing plan in the united states. >> it is kind of sobering. what do you think the biden camp's approach should be here on out? is it best to don't risk anything? do no harm and just in a sense really let the clock run out. let trump punch himself out? >> i think the biden strategy is the same as the trump strategy. biden is happy to keep the focus on trump and his leadership and donald trump is obliging.

he is putting hi inting himself every day. he has a record of whether it's on pub lek health, whether it's on the economy, whether it's on racial justice. he just can't run away from that. he struggled to find the right footing. he is still attacking hillary clinton. he still thinks he's running against bernie sanders on the trail. what biden also has is money. the trump campaign squandered this huge war chest lead they had early in the season. biden goes into $180 million on top after what the trump people have. it allows them to be ve focused and go broad in all the states they want to try to push the envelope. places like iowa and georgia that trump won handily in 2016 that he now has to visit. the biden campaign could go out once or twice a day and do these

focussed events and have the big dog coming in next week with oeb o barack obama and that will be huge. >> i want to ask about the president's health about held kwar on thursday night. here it is. >> a fact your administration is about to go to the supreme court to argue to throw out the rest of obama care which including the protections for preexisting conditions. you're administration is in court right now trying to get rid of that protection. >> in order to replace it with a much better health care at a much lower price and always under all circumstances we're going to protect. the republicans and i mean maybe i change the party a lot oaf the last three years but we will protect people with preexisting conditions. what i want to do, get rid of the terrible obama care. i've already done it to a large extent because the individual mandate is gone. that was the worst part. >> the response there, chris, does not really give you a sense

of confidence with regard to protecting people with pre-existing conditions there. how do his adviser account for him not getting it? >> he hasn't gotten it since 2015 where he said he was going to repeal and replace obama care and he's never come to the table with anything. when we had the debate over repeal in 2017, the proposals that were put on the table by republicans were one that would have significantly cut coverage for most people and increased cost. we have gone through this every two weeks where he says i'm going to have a plan every two weeks. he has yet to come to anything on the table. the only thing you could evaluate him on is this case that he is bringing before the supreme court. that if it happens, what cut health care for 23 million of the individuals a and what cut pre-existing condition for 130 million. he can continue the say these lieps but judge frg the public opinion polls nobody believes him at this point. >> what about vice presidential nominee kamala harris who

questioned amy coney barrett. let's take a listen to that. >> do you believe that climate chapg is happening and it's threatening the air we breathe and the water we drink? >> senator, again, i was wondering where you were going with that. you have asked me a series of questions like that are completely uncontroversial like whether covid-19 is infectious, whether smoking causes cancer and trying to get an opinion on me. that's on a very contentious matter of public debate. i will not do that. >> thank you. you made your point clear that you believe it's a debatable point. >> that right there, does this give the biden/harris ticket a lift? >> look, i think that one of the problems that she had during the hearings and they have the votes. it may not end up mattering. she answered questions about issues that are also controversial and one of things

that i think she premised her answer on in that context is whether climate change is real is controversial. that's not controversial. i think what republicans have done well in this hearing is created a frame where the issue of choice and the issue of contraception access and also climate change are controversial issues. they are majority approval issues in the united states. a vast majority of people approve of these issues. they do not want to see the repeal of the aca. the republicans in this hearings are in the minority in terms of the approval of the american people on these issues and they know that. that is why they are pushing this nomination through now and not waiting 20 days, alex. >> daniel, let's check out the topics for the next debate fighting covid-19, american families, race in america, climate change and leadership.

do you think any candidate is expected to do better with those topics? >> i mean, the president himself has always struggled with covid-19 crisis. that's something where vie president biden has gotten pretty specific about. i think the former vice president will feel he has some advantage there. at the same time, we know where the president is going to go on saying national security. he's going to talk about victories on preventing terrorist attacks of taking down isis. of really taking down leadership of terrorist groups in the country in other countries. it's hard to tell. right now, the real question is how is the president going to behave in this final debate. is he going to be boisterous like he was in first debate that turned out to be pretty damaging to his re-election campaign.

>> it was. last question to you abigail. with just 12 days before the election, how critical is next week's debate for those two campaigns. it will be 12 days. that's it. it's the last time you can hear from them publicly one-on-one. >> yeah. i think right now when we're looking at the election, so many minds have been made up for a very long time. it's a small sliver of americans who are left to be persuaded. one of the keys going to this debate is how donald trump behaves. i think with biden leading in the national polls and getting good polls in the battleground states where he's doing better than expected, i think it really is trump's to win. trump needs to have a good performance to get those voters. for joe biden, i think it's don't mess up. >> okay. none of the four of you messed up. thank you very much. always good to see you. thanks. it's one of the biggest boom industries of this year.

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gun sales are breaking records in 2020 just as the fbi and home security warn home grown terrorists may be plotting to pick up arms if ballots are contested in the election. fbi has conducted a record number of background checks. almost 29 million from january to last month september. march broke the all time record when the pandemic was declared and june broke that record when black lives matter protests began. joining me now, chris brown, president of brady, the gun violence prevention group that fought back for background checks and fred.

he lost his 14-year-old daughter, jamie in the parkland shooti inin ining tragedy. i don't know how you go on but i'm sure she will be very proud you have and what you're doing to try to bring attention to all of this. let me ask you about compared to last year. when we look at the numbers, fred, retailers say firearm sales are up 95% in ammunition sales 139%. they say 40% of these buyers are getting their first firearm. 58% are black men and women. bottom line, are you in support of people more so legally arming themselves? is that the answer? >> you know, our next president, joe biden, the other night talked about leadership. he talked about the words we use. the answer to your question is

we need decency. we need civility. we have an administration that at the start of purposefully triggered a gun surge on america. when they should have been calling these nonessential businesses, they chose to leave gun stores one of few businesses that can stay open when people were feeling insecure and afraid. they have amped that level of fear up around this country. what a joe biden will bring is a calming of that. no, additional gun sale, additional gun owners isn't the answer to what ails america right now. voting at the current occupant of the white house is. >> are these regular people just if fear and buying guns for themselves or are these malitia members? we got the signal back up. i'm glad to see you on camera.

>> hi chris. >> hi alex and hi to fred. just an incredible champion for joe biden and common sense. to answer your question, i think fred addressed this in part. we know from some limited data, there isn't a whole lot but there was a surge in gun sales. a huge surge post-covid. many of those buyers were first time buyers. it was referred to in the press as panic purchases. fred got it right about the reasons behind this may be panic but ultimately the solutions are governance and a government that protects all americans and doesn't have an occupant in the white house that stokes racial division, stokes fear and encourages certain individuals out in america to take up arms. it's no surprise that we recently saw a plot against

gretchen whitmer, the governor of michigan when we have a president who is encouraging those kinds of armed vigilantes. they are terrorists groups in america today. >> to that point, there's a poll that shows 23% of voters concerned about threats and physical violence at polling places. that number goes up if you just ask voters of color. then malitia members are generally legal gun owners, at least that's my understanding that. is there any way to prevent them from showing up near the polls? >> yes. in fact, brady has worked with a variety of other organizations including the coalition to stop gun violence and guns down to put materials together tr voters and importantly, elected officials at the state level to understand what can be done to limit guns in polling places and also to ensure that election

officials are aware of actions that they should take to the extent that they see that at all. i was so proud of the michigan secretary of state coming out yesterday and wani ingbanning g polling places. we encourage other states to follow suit to ensure that every one has the opportunity to vote. >> go ahead fred. >> i'm so glad you brought up what happened in michigan yesterday. the governors and other states they need to take the same stand that we are not going to allow this intimidation. this armed intimidation at our polling places. this armed intimidation, this fear that is driving gun sales is coming directly from the mouth of the current ok pants of the white house. he is stoking this. he is encouraging this. it is almost as if he is the equivalent -- he is calling for terror in our country on election day. it's going to fall on the governors to do what happened in

michigan yesterday to say not in my state. >> fred, in addition to that, you've got the fbi, first of all bureaus, homeland security department expressed strong concerns over possible election related violence. when i think about you, the tragedy of losing your precious 14-year-old daughter, what goes through your mind when you contemplate these scenarios? >> you know, listen, we deserve better. we deserve to elect leaders who are going to do what it takes to make our streets safer. my daughter didn't need to die. the reality is that we have allowed this culture to get to a place where we now look at these armed intimidators and the question isn't how did we legally put that genie back in the bottle. should we be okay with this?

no we shouldn't. yes, this wasn't normal only a few months ago, let alone a few years ago. we have to put that genie back in the bottle before more people die. >> we have already seen it happen in kenosha, wisconsin. we can't accept this as normal we need to rely on our next president and the governor and the mayors to say we're not going to put up with it any longer. >> i have to tell you, this is one topic that i'm right there with you. keep on keeping on. thank you both so, so much. joe biden used the phrase deranged schemes at his event in michigan. why he said that and how he linked it to the president. that's next. ed it to the presidt that's next. my job is to help new homeowners who have turned into their parents. i'm having a big lunch and then just a snack for dinner. so we're using a speakerphone in the store. is that a good idea? one of the ways i do that is to get them out of the home. you're looking for a grout brush, this is -- garth, did he ask for your help? -no, no. -no.

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carolina. we have the very latest. some big plans for the candidate themselves in the coming days. they are very busy. sfr that's right. it's going be a really busy next 17 days as we hit election day. what we're seeing is sdwroe biden in michigan speaking to voters at drive in rally. he's going to north carolina tomorrow. we know that kamala harris is traveling to florida. her husband is on the road. jill biden is on the road. it's a pretty spread out democratic ticket. as some of these states are starting the early voting in next weeks as well. you're kind of seeing some of that momentum build up as the democratic ticket is pushing that message of getting voters to turn out. yesterday we saw joe biden speak to voters in detroit michigan. his message was one about unity and bringing the country together. his message was telling voters who are there even if he wins, he's running as a democrat but he wants to be a president for all americans. it's a contrast he's trying to

set up against someone like donald trump. even with those two town halls we saw earlier, there's a pretty stark devied between the rhetoric you're hearing from the republican side and the democratic side here. you saw joe biden emphasize that message yesterday. in the background you saw him talk about this malitia plot. there were men who plan to kill and kidnap governor gretchen whitmer. joe biden was adamant about criticizing the president's language. take a listen to what he told voters last night. >> these guys are hatching wild and deranged schemes like the one against governor whitmer that fbi and local law enforcement uncovered an stopped last week. make no mistake, that was a planned act of terrorism. what our president does is fan the flames of pay trehatred in

division. telling the proud boys in the debate with me when i said will you condemn them. he said i'll tell them to stand back and stand by. what is the matter with this guy? >> reporter: strong words you heard from joe biden. you can expect to see more of that rhetoric in the next coming weeks. some of these big names like barack obama coming out to campaign in next week as well. >> that's a pretty big name. thank you so much. joining now to the trump campaign and right now the president is heading to joint base andrews. he be leaving more michigan. the president holding a rally there this afternoon as he is ramping up his campaign schedule. >> reporter: hi there. we have hundreds of the president's supporters filing in

onto this tarmac for an event that will take place a couple of hours from now. the trump campaign says the speak today will be specifically about quote, preserving the way of american life. that's a bit of a more unusual and rare preview. normally they bill this as make america great again or they have a different topic. today we are expected to hear on that. the trump campaign hasn't elaborated on what that means but later tonight when the president heads to janesville, wisconsin he is supposed to be talking about law enforcement. that gives you a sense of where they are trying to appeal to re-lek votere re-election voters. here in michigan a key battleground state that the president narrowly won. he down in the polls. the latest poll shows former vice president joe biden leading here.

optically i can't stress this enough after having been to dozens of rallies for the trump campaign pre-pandemic and now po post-pandemic you have people willing to gather. not in cars be way on the democratic side they have been trying to do in terms of health and safety precautions but packed behind me shoulder sthoulder. the people wearing them are the ones directly behind the president or the ones shown in the media. the president sort of mocks medium who wear the masks. something else we'll be listening for here tonight is what the president says about democratic governor and that plot that was foiled to kidnap and kill her. it's something we heard the president talk about in the last couple of days.

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17 days until the election. the president is relying on support of the christian community. some members of one group are speaking out against the president. >> during this time of crisis, we are called to speak clearly.

catholics and all people of good will cannot support another presidential term for donald trump. >> the catholic social justice lobby group network has this new ad campaign targeting catholic swing voters with religious leaders explaining why they cannot vote for donald trump. joining me now is sister simone campbe campbell. i'm glad to talk with you here. this is pretty notable for you and your group. it's the first time in the 48-year history of network that has advised its members how to vote. why now and why is this message so important to your organization? >> well, you're right. this is our first time in history that we have done this. what we are speaking out about are two things. one is the lack of moral leadership, the lack of moral fiber on the part of this president and second is that his policies follow that lack of

moral leadership and he has continued to tear families apart at the border, to undercut low income families, to insure that families don't have access to health care in the midst of a pandemic. over and over and over, the policies of this administration really harm vulnerable people. because of his lack of moral leadership and the lack of following any of the tenents of our christian faith, we had to say do not vote for donald trump. >> sister, i'm curious if this extends to the way i describe the network which was that you were targeting catholic swing voters. how do you count for those members of the catholic faith who do put -- they go all in with donald trump based on what you just said in his description. how do you reconcile that? >> well, i have to confess, it's a mystery. what i think what it is is is

for too long our catholic faith has been reduced by the press, to some extent, down to a single issue. that is where do you stand on abortion and right to life. the fact is -- can i add one piece? >> sure. >> the fact is pope francis said it's important to care for the unborn but he says equally sacred is care for the born, the marginalized. equally say red. it's a fault of our people to not hear that message and it's fault of our leaders to not give it strong enough. >> let me ask you about network that lost the ad campaign calling on senators graham, ernst and tillis to oppose the

judge's nominati, ma'amination strong faith. what are your biggest concerns about her convictions and faith? >> she is a strong catholic. that's lovely. i'm lawyer and i'm worried about her decisions. the fact is judge barrett has livered in an ivory tower bubble most of her career. she doesn't know the reality of struggling people and her approach to the constitution is to say we have to go back to 1789 and how they thought then without acknowledging the changes that have occurred, the growth in civil rights, the growth in the fact that women have the vote. the growth in the fact that we as a nation have discovered a deeper sense of the common good and so i worry about what's going to happen to voting rights. i worry about what's going to happen to the affordable care act. i worry about how she sees the critical social issues of our time. >> you mention the affordable care act and by supporting joe

biden and the democrats, the hope is the affordable care act will stay in place. you have abortion rights that will remain in place. is there any difficulty for you in that trade off? >> no because one of the issues that really ripe right now in our conversation is about religious liberty. for me, religious liberty is for each up with of us to exercise our faith and our faith values. right now the way the law stands, everybody can exercise their faith when it comes to the issue of abortion. now i'm a catholic sister, i'm not going get pregnant. that's not an issue for me. what i know is that women, catholic women have the capacity to make their own choice. i don't think it's right in our diverse nation for me to force my choice, my faith onto others. i think we're in a strong position. let's support the formation of conscious and the choices made by women but let's make sure pregnant women have the supports

they need. we know in democratic administrations that the abortion rate goes down faster than republican administrations because democrats support pregnant women. that's how i care for the unborn. let's ensure women have access to health care, nutrition, housing. all the basics they need to carry ta baby to term. that matters. >> what great chat. let me say i love your group there. the nou nuns on the bus. who we elect matters. thank you. >> thank you. the fight is not over. the latest moves in the battle over voter access to mail in ballot locations in the state of texas. ions in the state of texas. - [announcer] welcome to intelligent indoor grilling

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the state of texas is stepping up its fight over ballot dropoff locations with even more uncertainty as early voting is already under way.

republican officials appealed a decision by a local judge which overruled the governor's order that cut the number of dropoff locations across the state. joining me now is former texas state senator wendy davis. hey, good to see you, it's been a while. let me get your reaction to governor greg abbott's latest move. what do you think? >> it's not surprising, alex, and it's just an extension of what's been going on here in the last few months, but even the last several years where attempts to constrain what is definitely going to be a tide of democratic turnout is being met at every turn with efforts to try to lock it down as much as possible. and as you know, this order has a big impact on people in our highly optic populous early areas like houston with 2.9

million registered voters with now only one dropoff site in that county. same is true for highly populous counties like travis and bear counties where i'm running for right now. and for people to drop their mail-in ballots off safely. >> here's the reason from the governor, he repeatedly cited ballot security. you talk about highly populous places. i'm thinking about what about the really spread out places? who cares there's only five ballots in a dropoff location. it's five ballots. it's the voice of an individual texan who has every right to have their voice heard. so the ballot security, do you seed any credence in that? >> absolutely not. because here in texas to drop a mail-in ballot off, you have to have a photo i.d. and you have to drop it off yourself. it's no different than if you

showed up to a polling location, got out of your car, walked in and voted. so, it's a sham excuse for not wanting to make sure that people have access to vote. and, of course, it's all about suppressing the tide. and is that tide is coming and they know it. because of their failed leadership. and the state as big as texas where we have the highest percentage of uninsured people in the country and where people like my opponent chip roy have been fighting to chill deal the final death blow to the affordable care act. we have 3.7 million people in our state file for unemployment, as a consequence of covid. so there is great upset here and they understand that. and they're doing everything they can to make sure that people can't express their discontent safely. >> well, here's may be part of the reason why, wendy. because the latest rear clear

poll shows the president is leading the vice president by four points. how does this top of the race down-ballot race include races like yours? >> it definitely has impact, alex. they understand that. and it works both ways, right? we have so many competitive races to cycle, competitive state house races and a u.s. get u.s. senate race that i think a lot of people maybe underestimating. and together, the folks who are turning out in droves to say no to four more years of the nightmare of donald trump. and the people who, champions like mine, who have registered that are turning out to help up the ticket, together, that's going to create an incredible dynamic. and keep in mind when beto

o'rourke was running two years ago, the polls showed him down about seven points. he came within less than three points of beating ted cruz. and i think with the democratic growth that we have here, the expansive voter registration, we've had. the 1.8 million new texans registering between 2016 and now. and most of that being in our highly populous urban areas, all of that combined leads to an potential upset here in texas that i think a lot of people aren't expecting but we're definitely going to see it happen. >> listen, kudos to you for the fundraising efforts, you're one of ten that flipped and held seats. you're doing well in fundraising. keep it up. wendy davis. that's going do it for me, i'm alex witt. i'll see you tomorrow at noon eastern. yasmin vossoughian is next,

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good afternoon, everybody, i'm yasmin vossoughian. we've got a lot going on right now surrounding the election. 17 days to go and the two candidates pursuing very different campaign strategies in the homestretch. the president preparing right now to hit