thanks as always for watching the beat. we made it through another hour. we'll be back tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. the "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. five days. five. it's all you got left to get out ask vote. so far nearly 80 million of you have already gone out there and done the right thing. congratulations. with early vote totals expected to hit 100 million. by tuesday. the roughly 80 million votes already banked more than 17 and a half million have come from voters who passed on voting in 2016 or not yet eligible. in north carolina nearly 500,000 ballots have been cast from new

voters. "new york times" poll shows joe biden holding a small but durable lead over trump in the tar heel state. the democratic candidate leads 48 to 45. which is within the margin of error. in florida, nearly 800,000 new voters voted early. the state shows biden leading trump by four points. also within the margin of error. similar poll in september showed the race tied. at 48. less than a week left to lock in the votes, both candidates are chris crossing the country. today both in florida. a state that can make or break a candidacy on election night. biden in broward county made a closing argument. >> in the final days keep that sense of empowerment with you. that sense of optimism. what we can do and will overcome. i have never been more optimistic than america than i am today. november 3, we'll unite this country and show the worltd who

we really are. i'm running as a proud democrat. i'll govern as an american president to unite and heal. i'll work as hard for those who didn't support me as those who do. that's the job of the president. duty of caring for everyone. >> in tampa, trump rattled off lies and grievances not reality. >> we're open for business. that's what it is. it's rounding the turn. joe biden is plan will delay the vaccine postpone therapy, prolong the pandemic. the cure, remember i said it. the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself. there will be no school. no graduation. no weddings. no thanksgiving. no christmas. no fourth of july. there will be nothing.

we'll win it. if we don't win, ah. >> ah what? he held it outside of the stadium. in 87 degrees heat. what seems to be a new trend, 12 people were transported to the hospital. joining me now. former republican congressman from florida. who is no longer with the party. we like to let people know that. i want to ask about your former people. trump goes to the cold and leaves his people in the cold. so they can freeze. then goes to florida and in the heat and leaves the people and they get sick in the heat. this is a trend. it's a death wish to go to a trump rally. >> it's a perfect picture of donald trump five days before an election. all about him.

he used the party from the beginning. he's using the voters now. for a grievance campaign. i was having this conversation about leaving vote rs out in the cold and today in the heat. it is a compelling story. it's just a capstone on the fact he is drawing crowds out in the middle of a public health pandemic. and he is risking their lives. herman cane being a perfect example of somebody who lost their life because they chose to attend rally. he's lying about the public health consequence of public events. leadership matters that the power of the bully pulpit is an awesome force in america. and there are thousands upon thousands of people trusting his word and his word is a lie. it's risking their health and lives. >> to which he would say who is her man cain? i don't know him. welcome to the show. you haven't been on yet. i have watched you so i'm

excited. let's talk about the trump campaign strategy. throwing the polls out, biden is up if florida. he's still up. dhai that's dangerous for florida. up in iowa. but one point. pennsylvania he's up over 50%. up in ohio. at this point, does the trump campaign understand where they really are and do they dare communicate that? if they understand where they stand, do they dare communicate that to the candidate? >> president trump talks about this when he's out on the campaign trail. in michigan he was bragging about polls that showed him up by 3%. and goes onto say the polls are fake. not real. suggesting that there internal polling is showing better

fortunes. what we're hearing is the internal polling isn't shows things going wonderfully for the president. and not doing much better in these states like michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. in the way he's talking about publicly. no, we don't think those internals are showing him what he wants. it doesn't matter. you know this as well as i do. what the reelection team tells him or advises him to do. they want to talk about the economy and hit joe biden. donald trump is not doing either. he's talking about anyone but joe biden. who are increasingly women and women of color. and he's not really talking about the economy for long. because he's too busy talking about a grievances and people and institutions against him. even it if the team was talking about internals he doesn't listen to those around him. >> democrats have such deep ptsd

they seize the numbers and don't believe it. i feel bad putting them up. i don't believe that because of 2016. if you look at data. it wasn't wrong. it was there a lot of margin of e error and trump got the undecided. digging deeper into the in your opinions. i'm sorry audience. i love polls and numbers. of the people who voted early by party, democrats 40% make up 40% of the those who voted early. republicans make up 28%. and other people independents make up 33%. what that could mean is that on election day, the trump people are going to flood to the poll and because trump is driving them towards election day, and that's when he'll close the margin. that could happen. one more note specifically on florida. two most elderly states in the country are pennsylvania and florida. where the post average age is

the oldest. most senior citizens. in 2016, trump won seniors handily. 57 to 40 over clinton. that could be an older people gender situation. it could be a lot of things. now, biden is leading among seniors. 53 to 46. the drait would have to be wildly wrong. for trump to be in a better position from internal numbers than in the data. >> absolutely. i'll say something in addition to that. if even more precarious. in places like florida we're seeing republicans turn out early. throughout the country, democrats as you were pointing out are have already turned out. mostly by mail. and continue to turn out. this weekend will be an important weekend.

he's asking his voerts to vote in person on election day. as the virus rages out of control. in much of the country. in particular the midwest. he is asking people to come out vote in person. as they are facing a 40% rate. in wisconsin and iowa. in a rates are increasing tlo t throughout the country. when you are asking people to do that. if he faces a 3% of republicans anxious about coming out to vote, then he's going to face a real problem. and i think the fact that she's fed up over months the idea of people that vote in person on election day really has him in an incredibly precarious position. i have a lot of ptsd personally.

if you know someone who hasn't voted. we cannot rest, the senate is -- the presidential is one thing. the senate is very much on the ballot. i think there's a strategy of the trump campaign may well significantly backfire. >> i agree. sprint through the finish. look 100 yards past and sprint through it. let's talk about florida. we love to do. people in the villages, they vote by mail. it's not going to be like they are in golf carts. they're not lining up. set that aside. the judge supposed to be in charge of the canvassing board had to quit because his house is with trump signs. and he donated a dozen times.

at this point republicans are like i'm going to violate the law. you don't do that if you're winning. if your confident. when reagan was running for reelection. saying i have to violate laws to vote him this. >> right. you don't see it when you're winning. you cheat when you're losing. we're jumping ahead a week. litigation around precincts and counties whether in florida or else where will. i want to hit on what you were talking about. on the senior vote particularly in the state of florida perhaps pennsylvania and arizona. this could be the national story wednesday morning. the senior vote broke hard towards joe biden. and the trend at this point should it hold is really a historic trend for joe biden bringing the senior vote over. i'm intrigued by one thing. whether or not there's a tie here. joe biden down the stretch is running a messaging campaign

largely devoid of hard ideology. not saying he abandoned it. his closing argument is about unity and one america about healing. about coming together. moving the nation forward. converse that to the 2018 midterm and clintons closing message. it was healthcare, immigration and taxes. you may mobilize your more partisan voters and younger voters and activists with the ideology message where you wouldn't motivate seniors. his message might be pitch perfect for this demographic. that could hand him the election in florida, pennsylvania, arizona. >> you know who did that before and won? obama. that was his 2008 message. i don't know inside the trump campaign whether they pull their hair out or want him to do this. mocking his own fans.

>> before the plague came in i had it made. i wasn't coming to eerie. i have to be honest. there was no way i was coming. >> i may never come back here again if i don't get iowa. >> if i lose to him. i don't know what i'll do. i'll never speak to you again. >> what are the conversations like about trump fans? when they don't think trump fans are listening. they don't care if they listen. >> that's one of the interesting dynamics we witness in the presidency. there's a 38% of the country who no matter what president trump does, does not move and continues to support him. i hear this in the focus groups that we do. folks who support obama in 2012 and switched to trump in 2016. who are totally tripping now. in the sense they watch fox news and regurgitate the talking points kp think trump is a successful strong businessman.

>> i was laughing. it made me giggle. he's broke. >> that's a fascinating thing. i hear about from folks after the reporting about tax records and how much or how little he paid in federal taxes. it's just baked in idea. that's what president trump is the team recognize. they're not trying to win reelection by expanding their electorate or picking off parts of the democratic electorate that might have soured on the party. and taken a chance on trump. he's only focussed on his base. i wouldn't even go that far. he's focusing on himself and hoping to the base himself is the product is still a really appealing product to the people. >> it's like he's selling trump steaks. nobody liked those either. anyway. thank you. appreciate you. up next the battle for the sun belt.

democrats maybe on the breakthrough of the on georgia and texas the the pandemic is america is worse than it's ever been in cases. trump is denying the deadly danger. >> did anybody know that? i caught it. and you get better and you're immune. for a year. they used to say you were immune forever. >> the vast majority, republican plot to invalidate as many ballots adds possible. and the conservative justices reserving the right to decide the winner. my name is jill biden,

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trump won at the electoral college in 2016 by crashing through the blue wall of midwest states. this time around biden is look strong in those states. he may have an additional path to victory through the

traditional red sun belt. when the race is looking close. not just trump who needs to be worried in states it's vulnerable republican senators as well. like arizona mcsally. who trump barely gave the time of day to at his rally yesterday. >> come up fast. quick. fast. fast, come on, quick. you have one minute. they don't want to hear this. come on. quick, quick, quick. come on, let's go. >> all the other guys have to talk. get it over with. and is that right whose drive to show her undying loyalty to trump is basically a comedy sketch. >> you're not disagreeing with trumps statements about personally sexually assaulting women. >> i'm in the familiar with that. >> the access hollywood tape. >> this president is fighting for america.

>> i'm joined now by the dynamic duo. professor of journalism and politics. and tiffany cross author of the great book say is louder. black voters white narrative and saving democracy. ladies first and author first. pressure is on you. write a book. >> shots fired. >> you know how we do. let's start with you. pick one. you have mcsally getting railroaded off stage. so someone can talk. and kelly saying i don't know about the access hollywood tape. >> listen, let me just say, i will never be surprised at the way the 53% will handcuff thepss to a party who treats them like the dusty side chick and shuns them in public every chance they get. when you saw mcal sli get

dismissed. in comparison to when senator lofler lied. let's not pretend she was doing a good job of pretending not to know about the tape. the crazy thing is you are riding so hard for someone who didn't want you. this a special election. she was appointed by the great suppresser of votes governor kemp. as their failed appeal to win back white suburban women. relax fellows they aren't running that far away from you. only small numbers. she's so thirsty for this man's love and affection. he wanted doug collins. what has she done with the position? sits on the committee that regulates her husband's business. involved in a financial scandal. a multi-millionaire who treats the senate like a cash cow.

and my fellow hand maid tales fan. i never look for this demographic to be the savior. trying to defend against want to be authoritarian. the ground swelling of the free people. looking at this how to benefit personally. not serve the constituents. >> i feel like dusty side chick. that never made it on the "the reidout." that's a moment. i'll let that breathe. for a hot second. i believe your book is coming. let me start with that. it's coming. to that point, kelly all she's gotten from trump is maybe that sweet sweet tip off. that the covid was going to be bad and make investments. she is not polling well. wnba despises her. she's at 21.

war knock is lapping them. and even in a hypothetical run off, he's ahead of collins and lefler. what's the strategy? >> there is none. they keep thinking -- trump is the mr. big. he keeps leaving them at the alter. that's what happens. they want to attach themselves to him. he'll never come through. i add not just mcsally and lefler. also earnst. let it go. he's leaving them in the woeld. republicans are not just running risk of losing important seats that mcconnell needs to continue to oppress the american people and pick the judges they want. they are running the risk of changing the narrative about the ability to attract white women. these are supposed to be the new

republican party. if all three of the women fall, donald trump is ground zero for why that happened. that's what the republicans don't seem to realize. this gerunder gap is real. >> for the guys, here's let's play the comments from the debate he had with purdue. >> perhaps senator purdue would have been able to respond properly to the covid-19 pandemic. if you hadn't been fending off multiple federal investigations for insider trading. it's not just that you are a crook. it's that you're attacking the health of the people that you represent. you did say covid-19 was not deadlier than the flu. you did say there would be no significant up tick in cases. all the while you were looking after your assets. >> get both of the people accused of insider trading in the show.

as an atlanta native what you make of the fact purdue is responding to that saying he'll skip the next debate and go to a trump rally instead. what is that saying to voters? >> it's really disappointing. despite the credible accusations from os off. they are at a statistic cal tie. for his perspective he doesn't see what he can gain coming to face the truth. good on hip him. it was the eye contact and long dramatic pauses for me. i hope the voters pick up on that. it could go to a run off. the voters of the georgia should understand that senator purdue treated the senate like a cash cow. he also has profited from his role in the united states senate. and the more that -- i think people watching they're not going to these are not

necessarily purdue voters. the debit card industry. he watered down a bill regulating the debit card industry. and profited from that. it's dangerous two people from georgia profiting off the senate. when they should be serving. >> i'll let you end on texas. speaking of people who wait home with the fire light on hoping that they'll one day catch trumps eye. ted cruz. he has been abused horribly and his wife and dad. he's still there waiting for trump's love. he claims had told trump texas will be tough. he's trying to warn him. is texas a problem for republicans really or are we in the situation where it's not quite ready to tip over? >> if you were to take a look at georgia, texas and arizona. georgia is a legitimate toss up. 94% of everybody who voted in 2016 has already voted.

which means you're going to already have higher turn out than we expected in 2016. and because texas has large numbers of latino voters and young voters. and also to people who at least fit the demographic description of democratic voters. we could see a surprise to flip. regardless of what person or candidate wins the state of texas, they have a state house that can flip. this can be a huge impact on gerrymander in districts written into next year. the fact trump has to think about texas is dangerous. cruz sold his soul a long time ago. i wouldn't chase after a guy that insulted my mama and daddy and wife. he thinks he will kiss him and it's all over. >> he's a dusty side chick. >> i will leave it right there. the star of the show. welcome to her.

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i came back to the room at one point and she had passed. by herself. and i thought, i'm never going to let that happen again. i'm never going to let that happen again. if it means coming in on my day off. they're not going to pass alone. on my unit.

again. none of them. >> wow. nurse in montana. a state in the middle of a spike in coronavirus in cases and death. the first patient he lost to the coronavirus. even as trump continues to lie and say the u.s. is rounding the turn of the pandemic. the country continues to set alarming records. every day. today the u.s. surpassed 9 million cases. with nearly 230,000 dead. the u.s. reported more than 80,000 coronavirus cases yesterday. setting a record high for daily cases for the third time this week. hospitalizations are rising. especially in the west and midwest. and the white house task force is continuing those states to take aggressive action to curb infections. warning we continue to see unare lenting broad community spread

in the midwest and west. in an interview dr. fauci warned the u.s. could be in for a lot more pain. former fda chief said the current isn't likely to peak until after thanksgiving and cross 100,000 daily infections in a couple weeks probably. despite all of that trump lied and hold soup fans in tampa packed shoulder to shoulder that again we are rounding the corner. democrats want to take away thanksgiving and christmas. with shut downs. before bragging about his treatment for the coronavirus. >> i said give me whatever you have. give it to me. i wasn't choosing. the bottom line, you'll get better. if i can get better, anybody can get better. i got better fast. >> internal medicine physician joins me now. he got $100,000 worth of

experimental drugs etc. maryland a family lost a mom and daughter. 46 year-old and and her mom died. in the "washington post." she battled covid-19 at the same time the president. instead of a suite at walter reed the 46 year-old black teacher self-isolated in the basement of hr home. and she received get well cards from her students. is the average case of coronavirus for someone in the united states that isn't super-rich more like trump's story or carol? >> good evening. stories like that are just heartbreaking. and when you hear the president talk about a guaranteeing to his audience who are all packed in closely. it it's telling them you'll get better and you'll get over it. don't worry. to give a false and incorrect wrong assertion like that, it

creates such false hope. and it's just downright wrong. he clearly has never been in the position to pronounce somebody dying or dead. i welcome i invite him to come with me or any colleagues to any number of hospitals. look at the images of hospitals nationwide from utah to nevada to north dakota. to alabama. you name it. florida. you name the corner of the country people are getting sick and severely ill and dying. like the woman whose story you shared. men and women of color. from communities of color. it's really tragic. we already know that covid-19 is not your typical respiratory virus. it attacks almost every organ system causing neurologic damage and cardiac. it's a major issue and as you

point out earlier, the winter is coming. it will drive more people inside. and being inside people will transmit the virus. far more easily. this doesn't need any help transmitting itself. you see mr. trump being the virus number one wing man. bringing people together and preding the virus. it's tragic. >> carol and her mom dale who was taken to the hospital for covid the day before her daughter died and died a week after her daughter. these two died. and likely or seems the out break happened in their church. multiple members of the church. the indoor gathers are a problem. dr. fauci said thanksgiving don't do it. what can you tell our viewers about what they should be thinking about doing as thanksgiving approaches? >> i would say listen to people like dr. fauci. and listen to the health

professionals. don't listen to people like the jared kushner. who what did he say? something about -- >> hold on. the doctors? let me play it. let's play it. jared kushner has thoughts on the way you treat covid and doctors. >> the last thing was kind of doing the guidelines which was interesting. that in my mind was almost like trump getting the country back from the doctors. in the sense that what he now did was he will -- >> he took the country back from doctors. like you. >> i think that's great news. what i told my patients this morning. mr. smith great news your open heart surgery is performed by mr. trump. great news. your cancer will be treated by jared kushner. neither of them have medical training whatsoever.

sometimes sarcasm takes over. in reality let's be honest. what's so egregious about that is it's under mining the specialized years of training that doctors and public health professionals and epidemiologist go through for years and dedicate their lives to admit themselves to taking care of people and it's rooted in data. it's just a tragedy to hear comments like that. and go back to thanksgiving. it's not the year. this is the covid-19 year 2020. i know people want to spend time with loved ones. do so in small gatherings with your household. share recipes online. do things virtually. 2020 is going to be that write off year. >> zoom party is a fun party. by the way, the doctors that jared wanted to save the country from saved his father-in-law. >> what a shock.

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with five more days of voting it's all eyes on pennsylvania. the tipping point battleground where according to "the new york times," the trump campaign has dispatched foot soldiers to early voting sites to intimidate

voters. even videotaping them. philadelphia district attorney lar rry krasner who's investigating the police killing of walter ereer wallace didn't words. releasing this warning which said in part, "keep your proud boys, uncertified poll watchers out of our city, mr. president, break the law here and i've got something for you." joining me now, pennsylvania attorney general shapiro and ms. gupta, former head of the doj under president obama. i want to go to you, attorney general shapiro, on that, the idea the trump campaign is sending people to videotape voters. is that legal in the state of pennsylvania? >> well, i hate to give you a legal answer, but it really depends, right? 23 you stand outside and videotape a scene in center city, philadelphia, that's not illegal. even if you're videotaping a scene of people voting. now, if you're doing so with the intent to intimidate voters,

that's a whole different story and we simply will not tolerate any type of voter intimidation here in pennsylvania, as you correctly noted, that matter is being investigated by local authorities. and i can tell you that we are working together with our law enforcement partners at the local, state, and our federal partners in pennsylvania to make sure that there is no voter intimidation in pennsylvania leading up to the election, on election day, or during the counting. >> to stay with you just for a moment, there's a new report that says that five states are at high risk for activity by armed groups of civilians around the election. one of them is pennsylvania. the others, georgia, michigan, wisconsin, and oregon. this is an organization called the armed conflict location event data project and they put that information out saying large multistate right-wing groups could present problems to pennsylvania and other states. including the 3%ers, the proud boys, the oath keepers and the bugalu boys. are you concerned particularly on election day, trump is pushing his voters to go to the

polls that day that there will be violence and violent people and armed basically domestic terrorist gangs at the polls? >> joy, i can tell you, we've been preparing for this moment for months and we will not let any groups from the proud boys to anyone else step in and interfere with the election in any way. we're very serious about protecting the vote. and we will make sure that voters are able to vote in a safe and secure manner. look, the real problem here, joy, is that we have a president who's trying to not just sow doubt in this election process but sow division in the way people vote. and he's trying to do so because he knows if there's a straight-up vote, where all votes are counted in pennsylvania, he's going to come out on the short end of that. he's going to lose. and so first he went to court to try and make it easier to bus poll watchers in from other counties and quite literally do it in way that intimidates voters in black and brown communities. we beat him on that.

and now we're going to hold anyone accountable who shows up to the polls at president trump's behest or anyone else's to try and intimidate voters at the polls, particularly in our minority communities. we simply will not allow it. >> bonita gupta, one of the challenges here if you've had court rulings that say it's already illegal to intimidate voters so, you know, the courts aren't going to step in to give people, you know, to stay you can't bring poll -- guns to the polls in places like michigan. you also have in minneapolis a police union according to the "star tribune" the minneapolis union wants retired officers to serve as, quote, eyes and ears in polling sites and, quotes, problem areas across the city on election day at the request of the attorney for donald trump's campaign attorney. that sound like they want to send former cops into black areas. that's how i read that. >> well, i think the really important thing right now is that state law enforcement officials, local law enforcement officials, state attorneys

general have been on high alert about this. the civil rights community has. if people say anything, call 866-our-vote. report it. that kind of behavior isn't going to be tolerated. voter intimidation is very clearly against federal law. there's all kinds of ways in which intimidate can try to scare off voters, spreading misinformation, verbally or physically, blocking entrances or giving threatening appearance at the polling places. this is not going to be tolerated. i really do think there's been such heightened alert because of the clear statements the president actually didn't hide from making including in his own debate about some of the stuff so officials are on high alert about this. the good news is, and let's focus on this good news, is over 80 million americans have actually voted so, you knows , despite the kind of heightened alerts everyone's been on, we're

having record voter turnout and i think amid all of these kinds of concerns, the most important thing for voters to know is that there are a lot of -- there are officials on guard for this, and this high voter turnout i think should inspire all of us to make sure that those who have not yet cast their ballots are doing so immediately as early as possible. and can do it safely and securely. >> you know, and, you know, attorney general shapiro, one of the reasons -- that's one of the reasons a lot of people are trying to mail their votes i v. thinking it's safer than covid, than shenanigans that might happen at the polling place. now it's found out your state is still segregating ballots and that means that anything that doesn't get there by 8:00 p.m. on election day is going to be set aside for a future court case. we know there are millions, millions of mail-in ballots have not yet been returned in keys i

nevada, michigan. 1 million in the state of pennsylvania. 962,000 in nevada. we can go on and on and on. how confident would people be in the ability to make sure that their vote is counted, if they mail it in time, or are you at this point telling people don't mail your ballots? that's what we've been saying on the show, take your ballot in. >> yeah. >> is that something you would now tell people, don't mail it? >> let reme respond. number one, if you have a mail f in ballot in your hand, drop it off in a drop box. we've been encouraging people to do that all across pennsylvania. i also want to make clear to pennsylvanians whether you vote by mail or whether you vote in person, your vote's going to count the same. then finally on the issue of segregation, i want to be clear why we did that. it wasn't because of some future court case, it was -- it was done very carefully because of anticipated litigation coming from the president and his enablers. >> can i just ask you, i don't

mean to interrupt you, but are those votes going to be counted and then segregated? >> those votes, based on the directive that exists right now from the secretary of state, is that they're set aside. the secretary of state's also made clear that there will be additional directives coming about canvassing and pre-canvassing shortly. >> does that mean that those votes bill s will be counted? >> again, i'm not going to get a i head ahead of the secretary o. the decision was made carefully and purposefully. >> yeah. >> with the aim of making sure all legal votes are secured, protected and counted here in pennsylvania. jo joy, i've been in court litigating these issues. we're 6-0 in the attempts by the president to try to undermine the vote. we're going to make sure every legal eligible vote is counted here in pennsylvania. >> all right. pennsylvania attorney general, wish we had more time, josh shapiro, vanita gupta, thanks very much. student in tomorrow. we have a very personal story of voter intimidation on "the reidout." before we go, we are down to the

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