protest march that had an ugly ending. an observer out of raleigh reports aof racially diverse grp were participating in a march to the polls.

a warning the video i'm about to show you ise disturbing. law enforcement user pepper spray including on a woman in a motorized chair. the video was shot by the documentary filmmaker, the news and observer reported that several children were also pepper sprayed. in texas the biden campaign was forced to cancel events after a group of trump supporters went aftermp the biden campaign bus themp highway. the president tweeted out this video with the comment, i love texas, in all caps. as you can see it shows the trump-themed trucks surrounding the biden campaign bus on a texas highway in an apparently dangerous confrontation that reportednt a collision. reports the fbi is looking into the incident. and all of this as early voting continues to shatter previousti records.

nbc news reports 91,746,538 voters53 have cast their ballot through early in-mail, in-person, or mail-in voting. that is about 40% of all registered voters. that record returnout is on pac to continue through election day. "the new york times" reporting this weekend, quote, anxious but determined. americans are pushing through theg challenges like the pandec and long lines to cast their ballot. the country is on course to surpass 150 million votes for the first time.fi yesterday all four candidates on both tickets were out in full force making a final push as the clock ticks down tryingas to appeal to the remaining available electorate in key battleground states. trump held four rallies on saturday right here in pennsylvania throughout the state. team trump knows how critical this state is to his chances of mounting any sort of comeback particularly with him trailing

in most state polls as tuesday quicklyay approaches. >> this is the state that will save the american dream. on november 3rd, we're going to win repennsylvania. we are going to win four more years in that very beautiful white house. >> i'm in pennsylvania now and through the election. i want toh concentrate on michigan, another key swing state.r meanwhile, joe biden brought out the biggest gun of all in michigan, former president barack obama. the duo appeared on the stage for the first time together this election during a rally in flint. >> here's the truth, michigan. this pandemic would have been challenging for any president, but this idea that somehow this white house has done anything but completely screw this up is nonsense.

joe biden tries to live the values we cherish, honesty, hard work, kindness, humility, responsibility, helping somebody else out. that used to be the definition of manliness. not strutting and showing off. acting important, bullying people. >> we're done with the chaos. the tweets, the anger, the hate, the failure, the refusal to take any responsibility. got a lot of work to do, and if i'm elected your president, we're goingel to do it. we'reo going to act. we're going togo need your helpn doing it, as well. we're going to act to get covid under control. >> reporter: today bien returns to his home state of pennsylvania which he hopes will help deliver him a path to the oval office. the good people of pennsylvania have come out in record numbers toin vote early, and they contie to do a so.

the latest vote count shows that 2, 296,000 people have voted through mail-in orve in-person voting in pennsylvania. of those who have come out to vote, 67% are registered democrats compared to 23% who are republicans. the latest pollar numbers out o battleground state pennsylvania havegr biden leading trump by seven points. kicking things off with me here -- by the way, you can hear there arewa trains. we're just below the market street line. you're going to hear and see those trains a lot through the course of the show. the attorney general of pennsylvania is with me. that's our beautiful drone shot, by the way. josh shapiro. attorney general, good to see you. >> good to be with alyou. >> reporter: in person. we have a good opportunity to talk. to people who are not following pennsylvania very closely, there are re issues. two of them apply to every state, right? there's the polling that shows that joe biden is ahead here. there's the issue of turnout because polling doesn't matter if people don't go to the ballots. >> right. >> reporter: but the third issue that is>> occurring here, occurring in michigan and a number of otheroc states, are

legal challenges generally speaking by state republicans, but sometimes by the trump campaign to sort of affect voting and counting. where are we with that stuff? >> well, look, first off, i'm glad you're in west philly. i know you've been traveling across the country. this is not only the pivotal state, but this is such an important community that's mourning and hurting right now, but also needs to beig heard. i'm glad you're here listening. in terms of where we stand in pennsylvania, look, donald trump has spent the better part of the laster four or five months tryi to subtract votes from the process. trying to make it harder for people to vote. trying to eliminate drop boxes. trying to be able to cart in poll watchers, preliminary the black and brown communities to intimidate voters at the polls. the good news is in the six lawsuits that he's brought to subtract those voters, he's gone 0-su 6. we've gone 6-0 to protect the people of pennsylvania and give them the opportunity to vote and have their counts to be counted.

now it's time to have an election. the president has failed toan undermine thepr vote here. we've one. we've ensured -- we've won. we've ensured the votes are counted. >> reporter: chances are all thr votes will be counted in pennsylvania. there's a lot ofwi chance that they won't all be counted on election night. there are going to be reasons why some polls will be counted afterward and some will be counted actually on free after the election. it's possible we may not know a result for pennsylvania for a few days. >> look, i think we're going to have a pretty good sense in the early morning hours of wednesday how this thing is going. early morning hours of wednesday, you're going to have basically 100% of the precincts reporting which is roughly going to beou about 60% of the vote. the other 40% are roughly going to be vote by mail. we're going to know the party breakdown. we're going to know where the ballots have been cast. counties are going to start working around the clock starting atlo 7:00 a.m. to coun the ballots. i think we'll c have a pretty gd sense of where pennsylvania's going. >> for a lot of americans the economy is the main issue, covid

is the m main issue. for a lot of americans, social unrest, injustice is the main issue. there was a police shooting the other day and caused unrest in this area. this president has not done -- has not shown the leadership necessary to deal with this remarkably important issue inth which people feel a lot of pain what i've learned from my conversations with americans is that if you don't experience it, some americans don't believe it to be a true. that there's systemic racism and issueste in policing. what can be done for areas like this? as an area a like this in every city across america where people feel they haven't gotten a fair shake. >> yeah. show up and listen, you're doing that today. i certainly do it every day. you've got to understand where people are. and you've got to be able to then a turn that listening into real concrete action. i thinke folks in these communities, all across pennsylvania, they're tired of talk and want to see concrete action. that's where we'veee taken a le

on police reform. that's why we are honest about the fact that we need to say black lives matter, but then also recognize through that and through concrete actions to prove that black lives matter. to acknowledge the systemic racism that exists in our education system, in our commercial sector, and indeed in our criminal justice system and in policing. and if we can all honestly assess that, address it, listen to the voices in these neighborhoods that oftentimes go unheard, and then deliver concrete action, then we can all beio better off. we've got to lift up every neighborhood in pennsylvania if we're truly going to be able to move forward. unfortunately, we have a who likes to sow division in these communities, who isn't interested in listening but rather yelling at folks, taunting folks, allowing his words to be misappropriated by hate groups that want to undermine communities like this. we're not going to have that here in h pennsylvania on tuesd. i believe voters will reject the hatred of donald trump and

instead, god willing, usher in a new era of empathy and concern and do away with the chaos that donald trump has brought here. >> reporter: good to see you in real life here. josh shapiro, attorney general of pennsylvania. we'll be talking a lot over the course of the next new days. as i mentioned, all roads td victory, at least most roads to victory for both presidential candidates lead through pennsylvania.nd the president held four rallies in this state yesterday. joe biden's going to have two here today. both ofe which will start this afternoon. i want to bring in mike manaly who covers joe biden. biden has two days left to bring things home. what's the closing argument look like? >> reporter: well, i've beenhe talking to ate lot of democrats inside and outside the campaign. what you're hearing about biden's campaign at this point is some confidence, but also a lot of caution. as one former obama white house official said toor me, i'll nev be confident about another election after what happened in 2016. but youpp look at the polls, yo

see him on a good path. there's obviously what they say and what they're doing. and ify' you look at the candidates' campaign schedules herehe in the final 48 hours, y get a sense of what the biden campaign calls their two paths to victory. you have biden focusing on the midwest. he was in iowa, wisconsin, michiga michigan, heading to pennsylvania. wall state that hillary clinton lost in 2016 sending trump to the white house. then the sunbelt path in the south where kamala harris is todaywh in georgia, north carolina. she was in florida yesterday. and what are they also doing? you talked about all the early vote numbers that we're obsessed looking at. we've seen in a lot of those states,a especially in the sou, the turnout so far among the early voting as compared to the share of vote in 2016 is very high. 80%, 90% in texas, over 100%. in the midwest, especially in pennsylvania, lower -- tends to be around 50%. pennsylvania under 40%. that's why you see joe biden spending all of his time here in the final 48 hours in pennsylvania, and they're also

talking not just about winning but winning big. iin want to play what joe biden said yesterday as he was rallying with president obama here in michigan. take a listen. >> three days to put an end to presidency that has divided this nation. three days! we can put an end to presidency that'sto failed to protect this nation. three days! we can put an end to a president who has fanned the flames of hate all across this nation. millions more are going to vote in the days ahead because the presidentca said we have to overwhelmingly vote and overwhelmingly win this thing. >> reporter: one other quick note about biden's schedule. the campaign has advised on election night he's going to be addressings the nation from wilmington, delaware. now of course on election night win or lose, we usually do hear from theus candidates. in this election, when we might not know the results on election night, it's interesting that they're saying he will speak regardless. perhaps an important moment for him to speak about the need to

count allhe the votes even if t outcome isn't certain i at that point, ali. >> mike, thank you, my friend. good to see you. mike for us in detroit, michigan. michigan governor gretchen whitmerov joined joe biden and barack obama on the campaign trail yesterday. coming up, i will speak with her about the potential threat of election daye violence in her state just weeks after an alleged plot to kidnap her was foiled h by the fbi. one quick note on the footagete that we showed you at the top of the so how, police using pepper spray on demonstrators. the policen said in part that e protest was blocking traffic, and they deemed it unsafe and gave the crowd warnings to disperse before they moved in. the north carolina attorney general calledov the incident troubling but claimed it did not disrupt any early voting. just remember one thing -- it doesn't really matter if somebody's blocking traffic. you shouldn't be using these so-called less-than-lethal

things on civilians. philadelphia has just outlawed that. you are not nowou allowed -- police cannot use teargas or pepper spray on people. having been a recipient, on the wrong end of teargas and pepper spray, it can be much more dangerous than it appears. there areou people who will hav died just this the use of teargas and pepper spray on them. so the -- the excuse from the police in north carolina is insufficient. philadelphia, by the way, is the latest american city to see the fallout from the fatal black police shooting of a black man. while the investigation is still under way, systemic racism and police brutality has once again become top of mind for many pennsylvanians, as they head to the polls. yesterday, i held a socially distant conversation with a diverse group of voters in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania. in lucerne county. with just l two days until election day, here's their message to americans who are thinking about not voting -- >> i encourage you to make an informed decision. read both party platforms, read

both candidates' websites, and it's your right as an american. get out and vote. >> the voice is your voite. if you want change, vote. >> my grandpa used to say if you don't vote, you do not have the right to show your opinion. and i have six beautiful daughters and eight s grandbabi, and they're all out in and i begged them to vote. i'm setting up america for my nieces. go out and vote because your interest rates, your highways it, your water is in it, your fresh air is in it, your soil is in it. go out and vote for that.

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mental health crisis. the shooting sparked protests across the city. a curfew went into effect and was lifted yesterday. the pennsylvania national guard was brought in to help police here. and all of this is too familiar and a reminder that since a wave of protests this past summer, very little has actually changed to address the longstanding systemic problems in policing. with two days until the election, the renewed anger and demonstrations have only highlighted the incredible importance of voting, of making every voice heard, including voices of those who feel like they live outside the social contract. it's a task which in pennsylvania seems to have become more difficult thanks to the efforts of this state's republican-controlled legislature. joining me is malcolm kenyata, state representative from the 181st district in pennsylvania. representative, good to see you again in person. >> good morning. absolutely. >> i want to talk about something you were involved in. you and i had this conversation a few weeks ago, you were involved in pushing back on an effort by state republicans to

engage in something that felt a little bit like voter suppression. >> it was a lot like voter suppression. it really unfortunately has become the strategy of this campaign. and there are so many examples. even now you have some counties that have republican commissioners that are trying to delay the counting of the votes. >> seven counties in -- in pennsylvania that voted for donald trump last time have all said they want to delay the counting of the provisional ballots or mail-in ballots. >> absolutely. what the president wants is he wants delay, he wants chaos, he wants confusion. that's how he's run his presidency. that's the only way he thinks he can come out of this election with some version of a win. and i don't think people are really going to go for it. you see people turning out in record numbers because we've had four years of somebody who -- just think about if you had an employee, doesn't show up to work, when he does show up, he makes things worse, he does not listen to anybody, it's time for donald trump to be fired. i think pennsylvania's going to

be the place where we do it. >> talk to me about people of color and african-americans -- i know you're a north philly guy, but west philly right now. there are a lot of black americans in this city. how have the movements of the last self months motivated that vote? because so many people around here feel like they're outside of the social contract, and police shootings underscore that idea. right? that the same rules don't apply to me. so how do you connect that to people getting out and voting at the levels that we saw for barack obama in philadelphia? >> you know, i think we're going to have to even eclipse that because we have seen folks all throughout the summer, here in philadelphia after the tragic loss of walter jr., of people coming out into the streets, making their voices heard, demanding that we do something about a criminal justice system, a policing system that is deeply, deeply broken. i think for me, this week and for so many people, it was so hard because this was not the

first time we saw a video of at unarmed black man or, you know, somebody going through mental health challenge in this moment, be shot down. they were calling for an ambulance, walter wallace's family, because he was having a mental health crisis. instead, he was shot multiple times in front of his mother, in front of his family. that is emblematic of the type of change, big change, that we need. the president has a bill -- george floyd justice in policing act -- passed out of the house. haven even come up for a vote in the senate. the president is not interested in fixing this problem. his campaign has said the more there is tensions racially, he thinks that's good for his campaign. it's bad for our country. i think black americans and people of conscience are tired of this. they're sick of this. >> one of the points you made the other day, whether it's that or voting and gerrymandering, you've got to vote down the ticket for your state

representatives. they're going to decide what your districts look like, they're going to decide what your elections look like, and that's the thing a lot of people don't pay attention to. only about 55% of people actually turn out to vote for president elections. i think we're going to eclipse that by a lot. ultimately, you've got to pay attention to your state legislato legislators. >> i've gone to every part of this state campaigning with colleagues and hopefully future colleagues for the state house and state senate. we have a wonderful state representative here who's helped to lead the response in the community healing around the la loss of walter wallace jr. over the summer we passed a few pieces of reform around policing because people in 61 of our 67 counties came out and demanded different. cook report said that pennsylvania, it's a tossup right now in terms of the state house. we can win back the pennsylvania state house, we have an opportunity to do it, but people are going to have to come out and vote in numbers they've never voted in before. and really understand that every

issue we face is not going to be solved in the valves. >> yeah. >> in fact, many of those issues will be solved where i work in harrisburg. >> good to see you in person. state representative malcolm kenyatta. michigan is another state we're watching very closely today and on election night. next, i'll speak with the governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer. voter intimidation is a big issue in her state especially after the governor herself was the target of a kidnapping plot by armed militia members that was thwarted by the fbi. first, yesterday whitmer opened for the main event by a joint event with joe biden and barack obama, appearing in detroit. the former president proving he's still got it on the campaign trail, and on the basketball court. >> whoa! >> that's what i do! what that's i do! ordinary tissues burn when theo blows.

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voter intimidation has been a big concern for the commonwealth of pennsylvania, especially because of the legal line between open carrying gun laws and what is considered to be intimidation, being a little blurry. pennsylvania has no law prohibiting anyone from carrying a gun openly or concealed inside a polling place unless a school or courthouse. voter intimidation of any kind is illegal. pennsylvania's department of state classifies voter intimidation as any activity that threatens, harasses, or intimidates voters outside or inside polling places including any activity intended to have the effect of interfering with any voter's right to vote. so that could mean brandishing a firearm or a bat or anything else. illegal is the precinct chair deems it to be. another state keeping an eye on

possible election day confrontations is michigan. this week, a state judge struck down a ban on open carry of firearms across the state. the state'sterngener attorney g general appealed it to the supreme court. as the secretary of state told me yesterday, it does not matter what the gun laws are. voter intimidation, no matter how it's done, remains absolutely illegal in michigan, in pennsylvania, and in all states. joining me is gretchen whitmer who suffered her own personal intim daze this month as she was the target of an alleged kidnapping plots by militia members in her state. a plot foiled by the fbi. governor, good to see you again. and i know that you got that situation under control. it really brought home to a lot of americans how serious this business is of extremists in this country who operate under the guise of calling themselves militia because that sounds like actually something that's okay

in our history. it's not actually legal to go around thinking that you're enforcing laws in this country, whether they are laws that they didn't like -- that you had put into place in michigan about coronavirus or whether it's voting places. it's illegal, and you should go to jail for it. >> well, that's right, ali. it is domestic terrorism. we all need to get very comfortable using the right language so that we call it out. it's important that people of goodwill on both sides of the aisle take it upon themselves to ensure the american people can have confidence in this election. we know that we settle our differences at the ballot box and we have a peaceful transition of power. and that's -- that's the great part of american democracy. these efforts by fellow americans to intimidate or hurt their fellow americans, that's domestic terrorism. it's not legal. and we have to have people -- goodwill on both sides of the aisle to call it what it is. >> according to the armed -- the armed conflict location and event data projection and

militia watch, michigan tops the list of states that are at high risk of election-related violence. pennsylvania, georgia, oregon, as well. what are you doing to teal with that? i know i spoke to your attorney general yesterday, trying to figure out the business about people showing up at polling places with guns. we're trying to figure out the same thing here in pennsylvania. but fundamentally, how do you enshee ensure that this election is free of that intimidation and violence? >> you know, we've been running elections since the beginning of this nation. we can have confidence in our elections, the security of them, and the safety of our residents. we are going to continue to make sure that that is the case in this election, as well. we already have laws on the books that make it illegal to intimidate a fellow voter as they cast their ballot. we're reminding michigan voters that for the first time ever they can go and vote in person in advance of election day, and that's an important tool in the

midst of covid-19 that is continuing to rise the number of cases to encourage people to not stand in line all day on election day, but go today. go tomorrow to your polling place. i'm sorry, to your clerk's office. you can go to iowavote.com to find out what the hours are, where the closest place is, and get that ballot cast. we all need to participate in this election. we want to make sure everyone's safe to do so, not just from intimidation but also from covid-19. >> the president's going to be in your state yet again today. obviously between pennsylvania and michigan. he is trying very hard to retain his wins from the last election. he tweeted less than an hour ago. he said, when i became your all-time favorite president, the great state of michigan was hemorrhaging car companies and jobs, plants were moving to mexico and other places. no new plans for decades. i stopped the moves. many plants have been built. the place of a mess and would have lost much more business if i hadn't come along. many new plants are starting, foreign countries and companies

now treat the usa and michigan with respect. big job plans. please remember this when you go cast your very important vote. the president tweeted about their abo -- tweeted this about michigan, your response to this? >> the president has shown over and over again he's rarely tethered to the facts. michigan has been on the upswing since obama and biden had our backs in the auto rescue. the republican governor has endorsed joe biden because we need a leader who can bring us together. my predecessor and i don't agree on everything, but we recognize that michigan like states all across the country need a president that can unify us, that can bring us together around beating covid-19, not denying its ex-skpins watistenc watching more people needlessly die and lose jobs. that's why this is important. the people of michigan aren't going to be educated by a

president's tweet while we have lived through it. we know it was barack obama and joe biden that helped save the auto industry, not this president. his tweets if anything have hurt our ability to compete on the world stage. >> governor, we are glad you are safe. good to talk to you again. thank you for being with us just two days before the election. gretchen whitmer is the governor of michigan. thank you. the thing i am most going to miss about this series is having real conversations with voters from across this beautiful country. coming up, my discussion with a group of pennsylvania voters about what's driving them to the polls. hey rita! with 3% cash back on dining including takeout from chase freedom unlimited, you now earn even more. then this is officially a take-out week.

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today we're hitting our last stop. i'm in philadelphia, the largest city and perhaps the most pivotal state in this election, pennsylvania, to get a better grasp on how folks are thinking about the election. yesterday i traveled to lewis earn county in wilkes-barre,

from to have a socially diverse group of voters. we spoke for an hour and covered several topics. i started by asking who they're voting for and why. >> i'm voting for joe biden because i respect him. i believe that joe and kamala, they will unite this broken -- they're going to try really, really hard to unite this broken country. >> i'm voting for president donald trump because he has kept his campaign promises. number one on the economy. my family has personally benefited from his economic policies. >> i'm voting for biden because i care about the environment, and i know that president trump has basically done a lot of rollbacks from an area, from the gulf coast of mississippi originally, and i know that what offshore drilling has done. i'm very concerned about the environment, and that's the reason that i voted for biden. >> i am voting for president donald trump. i voted for him last time also,

and i actually have more respect for him now than i did then. he has done a fabulous job. he may come off gruff and rough, but ei've never seen any president do as much for the country -- and he doesn't get the respect he deserves. >> i am voting for biden. unfortunately the criteria is basically because i think that he might be able to beat trump. >> i am vogting for joe biden ad kamala harris, i believe in women's reproductive rights and believe in criminal justice reform. i think that these are two very large issues that need to be addressed very soon before everything goes downhill. >> let's talk about this. i think we probably have broad agreement that we have a civility problem in this country. what -- what does the next president do to fix that? >> i think he does have to be uniting, and he has to respect all sides.

and i have -- we've seen churches burn down in philadelphia because of the riots. there was a baptist church that burned down this past week because of the riots. >> in regards to black lives matter, equality, i am a biracial young woman in america. i go wake up every single day with a father who i worry. he goes to the grocery store, he goes to the gas station, he may not come back. and these things need to be fixed immediately. i'm fear gnall becauful that be color of his skin he can be killed. he can be doing simply nothing and be killed. that's just a fear that i have for my father and anyone of african-american descent. it's just very scary. >> i think it is scary. i think -- i've grown up in cities like brooklyn and philadelphia as well as in bryn mawr, pennsylvania, which are very different cities. and i've had issues with the police in all of those places. i'm not a criminal.

i don't -- i don't enjoy any criminal activity. i'm a business owner. and i'm an upstanding citizen. and i've had to take the police to court, which i won. but it was just a harassment situation. so i've been there. i think it's really just the way i look -- i'm a black man from the '90s, and i wear dreadlocks. so i think that, you know, speaks to what it is. it's never not been this way in this country. and so i think that trump has given voice to folks that don't -- are not concerned about that, and so it's easy to accept what maybe he has done well and overlook what he's not doing well. and so it's easy to overlook that when you're not affected by it. but i would really like to see people have more compassion about their fellow man and woman. and sort of out from that degree. >> everybody no matter what color you are, what creed you, are, female or male, you need to stand up for what's right. people should not be burning places down. they should not be inciting

riots. i can't believe the alc does what they do. where are the people standing up for these cities before they burn down? so many people are scared, and it's not just the color of your skin. and i think people need to get that through because i don't see color. >> i would want you to see my color, but i also want you to see my humanity. if they recognize someone's humanity and do not tell me that are we living in a society that should be colorblind, slavery was not colorblind, segregation was not colorblind, and so therefore we shouldn't all the sudden decide that we're going to now live in a colorblind society. >> you're going to hear more of my conversation with them later in the show. new coronavirus outbreaks across the nation are again highlighting the disproportionate impact that this pandemic is having on communities of color. we'll get is on that next. first, what to watch on election night -- we asked some of your msnbc favorites what they are following on tuesday

night. here's andrea mitchell. >> i'm andrea mitchell. the one thing i'll be watching for on election day is how suburban women and seniors are voting. big clues to the impact of covid-19 on the presidential race. after the polls close, i'm watching florida and north carolina for early results, and both carolinas for signs that the senate could go to the democrats. later in the night, all eyes on texas and arizona for any big shifts in the electoral landscape. [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ] ♪ [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] ♪ uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right?

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that coronavirus had affected people of color and working class folks the most. only 12% of white philadelphians know someone that has died from coronavirus. for black and hispanic residents that number is three times higher. joining me now is a pediatric and general surgeon here. she is part of the black doctors consortium. before i talk to you about this i want to indicate what a big deal this is. you are names one of 76 most influen influential people in thrill. you found that black residents were not getting access to testing and not getting tested. so you said i'll figure this

out. i'm going to worry about the payment, and you worked it out. >> i'm born and raised in philly. people were calling me ala i can't get tested, i have symptoms. i showed up without a script and they turned me away. the co-pay was too high. i didn't have a state issued i.d., i drove or i walked, and it was only drive up. and there was all of these reasons and excuses. so in essence i created a barrier free program to get no cost testing. i partners with lab corp to get the testing kits. i said you're can't get it, bill me later you're not going to die for a $200 test. >> the president says we have as

many cases as we do because of all of the tests. >> increasing testing does not increase hospitalizations, the number of people on a ventila r ventilator, and it doesn't add up. one in ten right now as we test have coronavirus. that is not because you're increasing testing. sometimes they don't have access to treatment available. >> and by the way that doesn't apply to anything else in life if you're looking for breast cancer or pregnancy, you can't do it without testing. >> that is absolutely right. when there is no cure the most important thing that we have is testing and contact tracing. and that is still not uniformly available to every resident in the united states. particularly the african-american community. still eight months later everyone who needs a test cannot get a test. >> so this may be a good example for us to think about how to

deal with health care beyond coronavirus or in the next presidential election. what you just said about the access to testing applies to a lot of things with those groups, with people of color, with african-americans, with hispanicings, and poor people who are not working. >> having health insurance is only part of it. it is also that when they show up with insurance you show empathy and respect. you don't treat them with your own implicit bias, you get to know what impediments they may have. just having insurance is only part of it. we need to do better to understand the people who we're serving. >> what do you think about the trajectory of this infection. that we're getting more infections where they have done a better job of mitigation. and yet we're still seeing this

increase. do you see dr. fauci said we're in for a lot more hurt in the coming months. do you agree with that? >> i agree whole heartedly. what has to happen is behavior needs to change. every medical profession knows that is the hardest thing to change. it could stop with all of us if we socially distanced, watchshe our hands, but we have to wait for a vaccine that will not be available for children right away, and that everyone will not be able to get immediately. so it is on us to change. flatten the curve, get to containment levels, and it may double from 230,000 to 460,000 by february because americans need to do better. we need to accept the responsibility and know that the power is within us to decrease these levels. >> thank you for coming out, thank you for spending time with

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