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it's a busy last push for votes before election day. right now in georgia, vice presidential candidate kamala harris said to show up right there and take part in a get out the vote event in duluth, georgia. former president obama plans to campaign in that state tomorrow as well. welcome to the msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm alex witt just two days before the election. here's what's happening. in 54 hours from now, the first polls will close and we'll be one step closer to knowing who will win the white house. president trump and joe biden are making every second count in this final stretch. the president zigzagging through

five battleground states today, and the former vice president is focusing on pennsylvania. kamala harris once again on the trail today as we wait for her to take that stage in georgia before heading to north carolina later on today. just a short while ago, she told reporters in georgia the importance of her visit to that state today. >> this race is very much happening, and the election is around the corner, and georgia is an important state, and the people of this state have a lot at stake in terms of the outcome of this election. and so we're here, and i'm here to listen and to let them know that we're thinking about them and that we have policies and plans that will impact them in a very positive way. and meanwhile the president will have his very first stop of the day, giving supporters a sense of where he feels the race stands. >> we're doing very, very well. [ cheers and applause ] >> we're leading all over the place. you know, we're supposed to be leading after the big -- the great red wave is going to come

over the next little while. it's coming, it's building. it's going to be a wave like i think -- and this is far beyond the last one. this will be a wave like no one has seen before. >> but several polls are giving us a much different picture of where the polls stand despite what you just heard from the president. in the national poll, joe biden is leading the president by ten points. joe biden is also leading the president in some critical battleground states. a new poll from the "new york times" and sienna college show biden leading in arizona, florida, pennsylvania and wisconsin. however, a new poll in iowa in the des moines register shows the president leading in iowa by seven points. we have a team of analysts following this each hour for you. we begin with joe biden who is holding two campaign events today, part of his final push to win pennsylvania's electoral

votes. jeff, with another welcome to you on this broadcast, what does the biden campaign have in store for us these last couple days? >> reporter: it's great to be with you, alex, two days before election day. joe biden, as you mentioned, is making a final push here in the all-important battleground state of pennsylvania. as you know, this is where he launched his campaign last spring. and today and tomorrow both he, kamala harris and the candidates' spouses are going to barnstorm the state. he has two events here including this drive-in rally at a black church in philadelphia, and as you can see over my shoulder, some of the cars are starting to show up. the fact that it's raining here, it's pretty fortuitous that people are staying in their cars. this has been the safe way that joe biden is doing this, so people are not crowded like they

are at the trump rallies. they are talking to the black church to drive turnout. joe biden is talking to black vote voters. as you know, donald trump won pennsylvania by about 44,000 votes. when it comes to the ways in which this campaign is making a direct appeal to black voters, senator kamala harris who, as you mentioned, is campaigning today in georgia, talked about this extensively. she said, look, we don't expect people, black votes, to vote to the democratic ticket. we are trying to earn your vote. here's more of what she said. >> as it relates to the african-american community throughout the country, it is not a monolith. there are many issues that are important. there are issues, yes, about criminal justice reform, there are economic issues in terms of access to capital, the

disproportionate impact of covid on the black community when black folks are three times as likely to contract covid, twice as likely to die from it, the impact in terms of our education system and the disparities that exist there, that have long existed. we are talking to all communities, but understanding the black community has very specific needs mostly in terms of disproportionate impact and d disparities that have long exists that need to be corrected by policies that promote equity and equitable outcomes. >> reporter: look, even as democrats in the campaign feel pretty positive at least in terms of what polling shows here in pennsylvania, they are also aware of events beyond their control, particularly problems with mail-in ballots and a gop effort to invalidate votes, to intentionally disenfranchise voters that gop political operatives may feel are not quite so favorable to them, alex. >> okay. jeff, thank you very much.

in pennsylvania let's take you to georgia. we take a listen to stacey abrams, a popular figure in that state, as she's introducing kamala harris. let's take a listen for a moment, shall we? >> -- the soul of this nation. but in the peach state, in the peach state being in the south, we know you don't just give you what you ask for, we give you a little extra. not only are we going to give 16 electoral college votes to joe and kamala, we're going to send them to u.s. senators to get the job done. my friends are going to take this country forward, and it's going to be georgia that delivers those two men to the senate. warriors for peace, warriors for justice, warriors for progress. and while my good friends hank johnson and sanford bishop, while they are doing the work they need to do, while david scott is doing the work he needs to do, the last time we sent

them lucy mcbeth because we knew they needed a woman's touch from the georgia delegation. and this time we're going to send lucy back with a new friend, carolyn bordeaux! but we also know that justice and progress go all the way down the ballot. and that's why, guinette, you're going to vote like your life depends on it. you're going to vote for every seat. you're going to vote for the county commission chair, because we need a county commission chair that wants progress in guinnett county. we need to flip the house and make sure voters pick up the politicians. politicians won't be picking the voters in 2021. >> okay, we'll keep a close eye listening to stacey abrams. she's talking about the downballoting reporting as well.

right now the president has just wrapped up his first campaign stop of the day with a rally in michigan. polling shows biden is leading that state by seven points. let's get to monica alba who is joining us in washington, michigan. no heat to help you out, but is there any sense of concern among those who are attending that rally or from the president to those covid numbers, because there's been a sharp uptick there in michigan. >> reporter: exactly, alex. none whatsoever that we could detect. these were thousands of supporters who had been lined up since 5:00 in the morning, some of them, to get into this event, his first of five stops today. and yes, the real-feel temperature here is about 30 degrees, and for most of the president's rally, the hour-long speech that he gave, there were intermittent snow flurries, which the president himself was complaining about, saying he was quite upset and concerned about the angle the team had set the

stage up. however, he did have a canopy covering him. the wind blew in his face and he complained about it throughout the speech, and he said he didn't want to be a diva but compared himself to luciano pavarotti. it did not deter the supporters who wanted to be here. he will be back in the state of michigan twice tomorrow for two evening rallies in traverse city and closing out in grand rapids. but the president spoke about something controversial here today, raising a lot of eyebrows. it was something he already tweeted about and elevated, and that was this incident with the biden/harris campaign bus in texas on friday, and then a sort of caravan of trump supporters who surrounded it, in the end leading them to have to cancel several events because it was so

intense. this is something the president is amplifying and applauding. take a listen to what he had to say here a short time ago. >> he's very agitated, do you know how angry he is? he's so angry. do you know why he's angry? because he's losing. he's very agitated. you see the way our people, they were protecting his bus yesterday because they're nice. so his bus -- they had hundreds of cars, trump, trump, trump and the american flag. you see trump and the american flag. do you ever notice when you see the other side -- i don't even see much of the other side. >> reporter: from here the president heads to iowa and several other key stops, ending the day in florida. that's a state his campaign feels pretty good about right now, but again, tomorrow he will be back campaigning in the midwest, trying to recreate the magic of those rustbelt states in 2016 that delivered him the white house, but those polls showing him trailing currently in michigan and wisconsin.

this really all could come down to pennsylvania, and that is why you will also see the president there tomorrow making a last-ditch effort there. but i have to tell you, alex, they feel the fact that the president can make these long rallies in all kinds of conditions, that is the campaign's best asset at this point. that's why you're going to see him do it nine more times in the next 48 hours, alex. >> monica, well done. can i just say i knew there was a reason i especially appreciated you, my fellow california girl. there we have it. stay bundled up, because we're not used to that kind of weather, that's for sure. joining me now, political analyst robert gibbs under former president obama. any chance you're from california, too, or no? >> alabama, closer to georgia. i can give you a little georgia insight, how about that. >> i love that, and i do detect a little bit of an accent there. but let's get to where president trump and joe biden are holding their rallies today. what does this tell you about their final stretch?

>> i think for vice president biden he understands it's the upper midwestern arc. understanding what happened in 2016, joe biden looks at if wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania, if all three of those states flip and everything else stays the same, he's the president-elect of the united states of america. if you're donald trump, you've got to hold a lot more territory. you've got to go to those five different places that he's stopping at, the nine in the course of the next 48 hours, because frankly he's playing more defense. he's got to make sure that iowa, that florida stay in that red column, because frankly, if any one of those pops out, all of a sudden this gets really, really hard for donald trump to win re-election. >> let me ask you about the events specifically, because with the president hitting these five states, joe biden has the two in pennsylvania, let's talk even pre-covid. is there an inherent advantage to being the incumbent? you've got air force one as a

backdrop. we see that repeatedly, almost exclusively, at the trump campaign rallies. isn't that part of what every voter will come out to see, sort of the grandeur and excitement of that? >> there's always something about seeing the president of the united states. yeah, if you can park that gorgeous plane behind you, that doesn't hurt, either. i don't think that in and of itself is going to drive people to vote for them. again, remember at this point in the race, we've got just a tiny, tiny, tiny number of undecided voters. these rallies and these stops are more about getting your voters excited, getting them out to call voters when they get home and say, i just went to this rally, or i just got this e-mail. look, i think the president's theme is clearly trying to generate that excitement. i think the challenge that they have is when most voters, particularly any that are undecided, see these big rallies that aren't with masks, that

aren't socially distant, it does remind people of the challenges that we have with covid, and i have seen polling and it's been talked about in the last few days where voters are turned off by these events because they understand the president isn't doing what even the president's own health team suggests is done to keep people safe. and, look, in a place like wisconsin, you're seeing a skyrocketing number of covid cases. >> what did you make of anthony fauci coming out just a couple days before the election and giving that somewhat blistering interview to the "washington post"? >> look, i think there has to be deep frustration among the public health team at where we are. if you think about it, alex, we're nine months, ten months from the very beginning of this happening, that first sort of briefing with the president and his national security adviser in the end of january. here we are, we're in the beginning of november, and we're going through what some of us will call the third wave or probably the public health

officials will say the third extent of the first wave because we never did what we needed to do to get this under control. and people like dr. fauci have been counseling us, how do we go into this winner in a good position? and i think he's just deeply frustrated, we're heading into that winter in about as bad a position as we possibly can, and we're still having arguments. the president, the chief spokesperson of the u.s. government, is still making fun of people wearing masks even this late in the public health effort. i think it's got to be deeply frustrating for somebody like that to watch what hasn't been done to get our country ready for what we think is going to be a pretty, pretty tough winter when it comes to covid. >> how much do you think dr. fauci's reticence, at least early on, to not come out and be openly critical of this president was not only about saifrg h saving his job, right, because we know what the president does

to people who criticize him, but was also about i need to stay here because i need to translate what i believe to be the truth to the american people, and if i don't have this platform because the president fired me, then i'm gone? >> alex, we've seen it, too, if the president gets annoyed with him, it's harder to get him on an interview, it's harder to get him on that briefing. >> he disappeared for a month, remember? >> exactly. it speaks much more about the president than it really does about dr. fauci, because this president's entire plan has been to pretend that the virus didn't exist, not to do anything to make sure that it wasn't as virulent as we all know it is, and, quite frankly, as virulent as he knew it was the entire time. >> i just want to tell our viewers, we're seeing kamala harris who has taken to the stage there in duluth, georgia, we're going to listen to her in just a second because she's probably thanking people and my

executive producers are listening to her talking about that. people are coming out, getting excited, calling their friends and neighbors saying, you got to get out, i just saw the president. we're also seeing former president barack obama on the trail out there for biden. how well do you think he will excite the voters to turn out on election day? >> i think it's a big deal. to be in michigan, there were 11 counties in michigan, particularly if you draw that line from the detroit suburbs in mccomb county up north to bay county and saginaw county, those were three really big counties in michigan that all went -- they were obama voters in 2012 and trump voters in 2016. so deploying the president in those two spaces, you know, with biden is about flipping those counties back into the democratic fold. and, look, i'm particularly hardened as a southern democrat to see that president obama is going to make a stop where kamala harris is today, and that

is in georgia. i think there is a real, real good shot that we wake up sometime after the election and realize that georgia has gone blue for the first time, really, since 1992, and you see this real influx of voters -- new voters into georgia that will change the tide in that state. if that happens, then it's all over for the trump re-election. >> i have two more questions about specific states for you. >> sure. >> as we look at this new iowa poll in the des moines register with joe biden leading trump by seven, how does it make you feel about the midwest border states? >> it's hard to rationalize in some ways. the "washington post" had biden up 17 in wisconsin and now the des moines register has donald trump up 7. i just don't even know, even in his crazy years, 2020, that those two things can possibly be

the case. look, i think iowa has always been a tough state. it was in 2016. it was a state democrats lost by almost 10 points. look, i think ann seltzer is a great pollster. she has been for a long time. it doesn't mean a pollster doesn't get it wrong, even in the "washington post." i think what it reminds voters on both sides is this race is not over on a saturday night with a poll, it's not over on a sunday morning with a stop. this thing goes through tuesday, and you have to get energized. if you have any amount of anxiety, pick up the phone and call a friend and make sure they voted. >> so as we look at the latest battleground polling, joe biden leading president trump in arizona, florida, pennsylvania, wisconsin. is there one state that, robert, if biden wins it on tuesday, you cannot feel that anxiety, you can put your feet up and say, this race is over, and if so, what state is that?

>> well, of those four states, the bottom two, pennsylvania, wisconsin, they're going to count their votes later. we know that with the mail-in. arizona is a little late in the time zone, so the answer to that is easy. it's florida. we have a pretty good sense that polls will close 7:00 eastern for the state, 8:00 in the panhandle. we'll get a pretty good sense because they've been counting that mail-in vote for three weeks. if florida goes, there's no doubt that it is all over for trump, and i think what's really interesting about these four states, and the "times" wrote about this today, those nonparticipant 2016 voters are overwhelmingly in those four polls biden supporters, not trump supporters. trump's entire strategy was based on finding like-minded trump voters that didn't participate in 2016. it appears as if a lot of this

n -- these nonvoting 2016 participants are voting, but they're voting for joe biden. >> robert gibbs, thank you so much. my next guest is in a senate race that could change the course of history in a deep southern state. but first, let's have a listen to kamala harris. >> the long trip is usualliy th longest and the most important. this is not the time to let up, this is the time to put our feet on that pedal and go and get this thing done and make sure everyone votes, that they drop off their ballots in drop boxes now. don't put it in the mailbox, put it in a drop box or vote on election day. because there's so much at stake. you know, we are in the middle of at least four crises. joe and i talk about that all the time. the first two, a pandemic -- i'm

just going to come down here. how about that? w about that it must be nice to play by a different set of rules.

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mississippi has not elected a democratic senator since 1982, but that could all change on tuesday night. mike espy is getting national attention after his campaign raised more than $5 million and received a handful of high-profile endorsements including stacey abrams, senator cory booker and president barack obama. and mike espy is joining me right now. he is the democratic candidate working to unseat current mississippi senator cindy hyde-smith. he's also the former u.s. agriculture secretary. mr. secretary, welcome and thank you very much. let's get into this. some people would be intimidated running as a democrat in a deeply red state, but this is not exactly your first time doing so, sir. why did you decide to run again and what do you hope to change if you get elected?

>> first of all, thank you, alex, for having me this afternoon. thank you for this opportunity. so, as you said, i ran before. it was only 19 months ago. we got 47% of the vote in that race even though it was the last senate race in america, and we did really well. we only had six months to run, so i said then, i think that if we have two years to build the biggest, widest, deepest coalition of voters in mississippi, we can win this time. so really, alex, we ran into it now. i really encourage we're in this rain statist-- race statistical. we have a bus tour. we're going to 60 cities in six days. we only have three days left, and from what i can see, long lines around the courthouses. we have 175,000 ballots requested as of today, whereas

all of the last cycle of 110,000 ballots were requested. so the energy is palpable, the momentum is good. i think we're going to do ra really, really well on tuesday. >> i can feel your energy, and i have to say i'm glad you've taken a break from being out there because it sounds like you've got your track shoes on. thank you for being on with me. what about the fact you raised millions of dollars, and how did that change the trajectory of your campaign, give it a big crescendo? >> money is always great, and we have endorsements of the likes of barack obama and others. it just enhances the credibility of this race and myself as a candidate. so we're raising money, but i want to emphasize that the money is coming from low dollar donors. every donation to the mike espy fund is about $27 to $32. but we have about 150,000 new donors. so they have given me, because

they know i'll be an absolutely lock solid vote for the affordable care act, i'm all for coverage for pre-existing illnesses, we've had hospitals close in mississippi. they know i'm against that. i'm going to do the right thing for folks in mississippi, so people are voting for us because they want a mississippi that's more diverse, more inclusive. we have a new flag in mississippi. i never thought i would see it, so i want to be the next movement in the trajectory for a more inclusive, more diverse mississippi in the deep south. that's why we're getting endorsements. >> i'm guessing things have changed, though, since the tweet you put out in september when you didn't feel like you had much support. here's what you tweeted.

democratic party leaders have ignored our race for the u.s. senate in mississippi. they don't think a black man in mississippi can win, and they continue to count out the south and black voters. how has it changed? >> mississippi is often ignored. i'm used to it. we were ignored before, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease. i had to talk to the dnc and they responded. they're heavily invested in the race. they paid for some of our polling so they know we're doing well, they know we can win, and that's why they've weighed in and we're doing really, really well. >> our former agriculture secretary now running for mississippi senate, well done on this energy. take it and leave the broadcast. time to go and do your thing in the next couple days. >> we have 100,000 black voters. they have not voted since obama in 2008. we have to find them, get them to the polls.

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back to the snapshot of what's happening on the campaign trail. to your left there, you are taking a look at dubuque, iowa. they're waiting for the president to show up any time now. we're also listening to kamala harris. she is in georgia. when she makes some important statements, we will get you to that as well, but she is trying to make sure people get out the vote. it is a state of early voting in wisconsin that could decide the entire election. already 1.8 million people have cast their votes there, and

that's up 235% from 2016, which is pretty staggering. let's talk to nbc's kyle perry talking to us from milwaukee, wisconsin. it is extraordinary, that number, 235%. that's a big wow. do you get a sense of what's driving them and the concern? is it about covid, cal? >> reporter: i think that's the question the democratic party is asking themselves today. is it voter enthusiasm? were we able to run up the numbers in milwaukee county like we want to? the other county is in madison county and dane county. this is not just a hot zone in the u.s., this is a hot zone around the world. daily rise of coronavirus every week. see what people had to say about it. >> reporter: are people motivated to vote? >> it has affected a lot of things. our rates are going up right now, so folks have been, you

know, requesting their absentee ballot, folks have been going to vote early, but i do know that april 7's election, a lot of people requested ballots and they never came. i was one of those people. so i had to really decide to go stand and line and risk me and my family's health or not vote at all. so people are still skeptical about that, especially folks that went through that in the april election. >> reporter: look, in a place like milwaukee, alex, i think we'll know by tuesday if it was voter enthusiasm or concerns about the coronavirus. we'll know because we'll see lines at the polls of that 1.8 million. the stakes couldn't be higher. hillary clinton lost by less than 35 votes. that's why you'll see the president finish up in waukesha county where i can tell him it will be really cold, alex. >> i can tell you look cold

there. i want to get to some breaking news that's just come in to us, and it says texas supreme court rules no problem with drive-thru voting, which means 100,000 voters may not be disenfranchised now, so what's your reaction to that? >> reporter: well, alex, it seems like a win for democrats. this was an issue in harris county in texas where democrats seem to be breaking records in terms of the early vote. if democrats have any shot at turning texas blue, did has to run through harris county. this is going on and on between democratic ballots of restrictions placed on voting. in this case it seems like a victory for the democrats. >> we were just hearing from caliperry ca cal perry in wisconsin. what do early voting numbers there tell you?

>> it's just staggering ingsta. i would warn against counting it too soon if it's true that overall people will turn out by an increase of 200-plus percent. let's wait and see. so far i would say it seems good for joe biden. he's hitting his marks in wisconsin. between the early voting numbers and the polls we've seen, he appears to be in good shape to rebuild that part of the blue wall. >> let me bring back up what the president brought up today at the michigan rally, talking about how his supporters attempted to run that biden campaign bus off the highway, i-35 in texas. the president appeared to praise them for that. with this race tightening in places like texas and other batt battlegrounds, any concern that we're getting a glimpse of how his supporters may react if the outcome is close or if he loses outright? >> reporter: well, the president

is laying the groundwork. he's planting the seeds of doubt in the legitimacy of the election in the event he were to lose, and he's been doing this for months now. i was at a rally of the president in phoenix a few days ago. i asked a number of trump supporters what they think, and it probably won't surprise you, but a lot of his supporters are taking this to heart. i heard several say if he loses, they believe it will be due to voter fraud. they say his crowds are bigger than joe biden's, how could joe biden get more votes? it's simply false claims by the president about ballots being thrown out, ballots being thrown out with his name on them. what the president is saying seem to be working with some of his supporters and could likely make it very difficult for joe biden if he becomes president and tries to run the country as he will attempt. >> thank you, sahil kapur.

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and we still keep our eyes out on the campaign trail. to the left we are waiting for the president's arrival in dubuque, iowa where he will certainly be asking his supporters to get out there and vote. it's the same message to the right on your screen in georgia, kamala harris at a get out the vote event. we're keeping an eye on that at our control booth. meanwhile, we have some new polls to show. they show biden ahead of the president in some national polling. joe biden with 51%, trump with 44%. we have a man campaigning for

joe biden. he's also an investor and fi philanthropist. how about those numbers? how confident are you with the polling numbers and do you get a sense of biden throughout the country as you've been out there campaigning for him? >> i think at this point, alex, the only poll that counts are the votes on tuesday. i was in nevada yesterday talking to volunteers, talking to people who are going door to door, and what i'm hearing from the democratic side is a ton of enthusiasm, a ton of excitement, and in particular, what i saw in nevada yesterday and what i'm seeing around the country is young people. i think we're going to see a surge of young voters, which is 40% of the population, who are going to have record levels of turnout and a record spread between democrats and republicans. my organization next gen has been working on this for seven years, and we think this is the year where the young people flip

the page on this, go completely democratic and set forward a generational change for america. i think we're going to see it on tuesday. >> so that young vote in particular, tom, the stop in reno, did you get a sense it was more of supporting joe biden or trying to get donald trump out of the white house? >> well, alex, let me just tell you something that i thought was incredible. in may joe biden had a negative 22% approval rating from young voters. now he has a positive 23% approval rating. he has absolutely connected with young voters primarily through his climate plan. nextgen has been pushing this climate plan and tried to show young voters how good joe biden and kamala harris are on climate, and i think that's been a critical change that young voters -- 23% approval rating is

fantast fantastic. i think something has really changed and i think joe biden has connected with young voters and the biden/harris ticket is going to make a huge difference to not just ousting trump but to the democratic ticket. >> with the progressive policies we heard, of course, from bernie sanders, elizabeth warren as well, are biden's policies on both the climate and health care, are they progressive enough? >> look, i think the democratic party is united behind joe biden and kamala harris. and as an investor, somebody who spent three decades investing money, i look at this ticket and they have a plan on health care that is credible, positive and aggressive. they have a plan on climate that is credible, positive and aggressive, and it goes to job creation, millions of good union jobs, it goes to addressing systemic racism. so i think when democrats of

whatever stripe look at this ticket and look at the plans they've put forward, people are excited, and trump has no plan. we're looking at a failed presidency promising a lot but with absolutely no idea of how to get there, just a lot of bluster. so i think actually democrats are very, very excited about this ticket and about the future. >> it's true, we've not heard plans by the president on how he would replace the affordable care act, although he's said in two weeks or so i'll give them to you, but that's for two weeks for how long now? he has certainly embraced the economy. the record, 38.1% gdp in one quarter, tom. joe biden says the u.s. is still in a deep hole. were you to be advising biden on the economy if he becomes president? after trump touts this record-breaking economy in his

presidency, what does joe biden have to say about it? >> good grief. donald trump is the only president for about 90 years who is going to end his term with fewer jobs than he started with. look, i am an investor. i can look at him. he's failed in the past, he's failed in this term as president, and he's promising he's going to do well in the future, but he's not telling you how. as an investor, i would never do that. joe biden and kamala harris have a straightforward plan, a build-back better plan that is credible and responsive to the time. look, we are in a time of very high unemployment. we are in a time where the pandemic is hitting people. what they're talking about is a plan to create union jobs as we rebuild this country is something that everybody across the united states knows we need to do, it's a positive thing to do, this is the right time to do it. trump has been promising it forever and done nothing. so, actually, what we're seeing is a plan that creates millions

of jobs which we absolutely need across the country, addresses our climate crisis and addresses systemic racism through environmental justice. so we're at a time when the markets are asking for it, if you look. the natural world is demanding it and the politics have lined up to support joe biden and kamala harris's plan. this is the time i think we're going to see on tuesday that people, especially young people, understand that we've got to go to the future, deal with the facts in the way we're talking about, not trying to return to the 1950s. it's not going to happen. as an investor, look forward, not backwards. >> tom steyer, always good to talk to you. have a good one. pepper spray and the polls. my next guest explains the situation, and as we're looking at dubuque, iowa, we're watching the crowd gather there. looks a bit chilly as well. we'll be right back. well

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north carolina officials con detected an escalation during a march to the polls yesterday when police released tear gas on seemingly peaceful protestors. >> the police released tear gas and pepper spray, not just upon us, seemingly well able bodied folks, but there was a disabled lady who was pepper sprayed. an expert is joining us now. welcome to you. very disturbing.

certainly this incident and it appears to be younger voters of color. what is your assessment of this and what impact do you think it might have on the days ahead. >> i'm surprised at what happened, not very surprised. any time it is time to make a change in the american government. it seems like she is going to make a cad kal change. police and people pretending to be police as a chilling effect. >> so let's -- it did seem inkpe comprehensible. it was the most ballots cast so far. what do you make of this and the significance of these outstanding numbers? >> i think it tells you that

americans have been clear about what they wanted. they have known for the past ten years. more and more have come around as the years have passed. they want to be heard and they want to make sure they do everything in their power. >> democrats are reporting low turnout at black and latino voters in the republican strongholds of florida and pennsylvania. these are two huge battleground states, is it a hud red flag for you. some know that they're spending money. i have been waiting to see those ads on the stations that have not heard them. one of them could be about whether or not the campaign did all that it needed to do. i'm also hearing stories about what the president is saying about mail in voting and may be

worried about themselves if. >> that is remarkable. i have to tell you if the latter is true, think about the percentage of voters that the country will see. they return to the trial and this happened. >> oh! whoa! walk off s. >> that's what i do. that's what i do. oh! tell them. >> he was very pleased with himself. mind you he should be. did you see that shot from way far away? is this the return of cool? is it too little too late. can he still energize folks and change some minds? >> i think it is a little late.

if we were going to get excitement about this we would need to see him out early. i think we would need other surrogates. i'm sure boeyonce is looking fo a way to help. hopefully that translates on tuesday. >> tell me what you're hearing on the ground there. just that community behind you and what is your stance of where people stand? >> i think the people that i know are reading the polls and worried there might be sentiment from white voters that does not match what we see from the polls. some folks that maybe never participated before will not come register. or when people make a decision

decision from the ones they talked about. >> thank you. neck and neck, but is the race as close as it seems in florida? we have answers next as we wait for the president in du buick iowa. it is windy and cold this time of year in iowa. they're probably hoping that he is on time. we'll let you know after a break. one wash, stains are gone. daughter: slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide.

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>> this hour, picking up steam. president trump ready to speak at a rally in iowa, and joe biden gearing up for a souls to the polls event in philadelphia. good day, everyone. welcome to weekend's with alex witt with just two days to go until election day, here is what is happening out there. >> let's get to some breaking news in a toss up state. the texas supreme court blocked a republican lawsuit. the tossing of ballots from drive through sites in houston. more than 100,000 votes would have impacted mainly minority voters, and now a sprint to the finish li