wouldn't be here right now. no, i won all nine. said we're going to lose all nine. it was quite depressing as i turned on the television. let's see how he did. he won florida, he won south carolina. then they said they are getting rid of the guy -- like at fox, i heard they were getting rid of that pollster but they kept him. they have others they kept. you wonder what kind of a business that is. you wonder what kind. we have a case where in wisconsin where we're one up. i left there a couple of days ago. we had a rally you wouldn't believe it. packed, just packed. just like last night, like here. like last night, this was the section i wanted to come. this is considered a small, beautiful, cute little, wonderful section. they asked me. i said i want to be there. every vote counts. it's very important. we had something last night in miami, you would not have believed it. i don't know who saw it on television.

i don't know. but you look at some of these results in wisconsin, so, you know, where i'm up one or down one, it's right in that thing. i think we'll win wisconsin. we have a lot of people who say we don't want to talk to you and then they go vote for trump. the hidden voter or whatever they call them. somebody said they are the shy voters. my people aren't shy. but in wisconsin, so they said a, b, c news, whi-- abc news, w are corrupt, they are all corrupt, abc "washington post," basically a lobbyist for amazon. just a lobbyist. they didn't say two down, three down, four down, a fake poll. they said trump is 17 points down in wisconsin. now, the real number -- i mean, you know, i could lose it, i could win it.

i don't know how. i did a lot of good things for wisconsin. let's say it's even. i call up a great pollster, john. i said, john, let me ask you a question, i think we're one up in washington. abc "washington post" did the same thing four years ago very close to the election. they said we're down 12, and then we won. we're down 12. it's called suppression. what it does is suppresses people. >> good morning, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell at msnbc headquarters in new york city. the president and joe biden are battling for the white house across key swing states with the election just one day away. presidentes the first of five rallies across four key states beginning with north carolina. this hour joe biden is making a last minute stop in ohio ahead of a series of drive-in rallies in importantly western pennsylvania. later in the day, here is joe biden in cleveland right now.

>> we wouldn't have 9 million confirmed covid cases in this nation, wouldn't have over 230,000 deaths, wouldn't be seeing those new record number of cases we're seeing every single day right now. nearly 100,000 cases in one day just two days ago. 100,000 new cases. we wouldn't be facing another 200,000 projected deaths in the next few months. this president knew last january the virus was deadly, but he hid it from the american people. he knew it was worse than the flu. he lied to the american people. he knew it wasn't going to disappear but he kept telling us america was coming. just friday he had the gall -- think of this now, the president of the united states of america, who is responsible for so many deaths, he had the gall to

suggest that american doctors, the people who have been on the front lines of this crisis for nine months, along with nurses and so many others, many of whom have died to suggest that doctors are falsely inflating deaths due to covid because they want to make more money. i'm serious, this guy is a disgrace. the people of this nation have suffered. they have sacrificed for nine months, no more than doctors and nurses. this president is questioning their character, their integrity, their commitment to fellow americans? as i said, it's a disgrace. last night trump said he was going to fire dr. fauci. isn't that wonderful? i have a better idea and i'm going to hire dr. fauci and we're going to fire donald tr p

trump. donald trump waved the white flag of surrender to this virus. his own chief of staff said last week, we're giving up on the virus. we're not going to do anything about it. i'm never going to wave the white flag of surrender. we're going to beat this virus and get it under control, i promise you. look, the first step to beating the virus is beating donald trump. donald trump keeps telling us what a great jobs president he is. i was just with barak in detroit in flint. it was great to be with a president of character, a president respected around the world. a president our kids could and did look up to. did you know after president obama and i bet on american

workers and helped rescue the auto industry, nearly 500,000 jobs created here in ohio, meanwhile 330,000 of those have been lost since trump has become president. donald trump is going to be the first president in 90 years -- that's a lot of presidents -- in 90 years that's going to finish his four years in office with fewer jobs than when he got elected to office. it's no surprise. remember the lies he told all the workers. he told the families of the gm plant in lordstown, he said, quote, don't move. don't sell your house. but then the plant shut down. after the first debate in cleveland, i met an ohio woman named tiffany whose husband lost his job at the plant. he had to take a job eight hours away in another state. he drives home weekends. sixteen hours round trip to be

home with his kids. so much. but don't worry. what about his threat and grudge against good year? what about his broken promise to protect pensions for workers. >> we've seen donald trump in north carolina and joe biden in cleveland. we'll be continuing to monitor both candidates. our latest poll of 12 battlegrounds has joe biden holding five-point lead, 51-46. president trump won those states back in 2016 by a narrow two-point margin. the president is defending supporters who surrounded a biden campaign bus on friday calling them patriots that did nothing wrong. the fbi is opening an investigation into that incident. there was a similar incident, not quite as aggressive, in the garden state parkway in, new jersey. the president ended this weekend with most direct attack yet against dr. anthony fauci. just heard joe biden allude to it. fauci is the most popular figure

in our latest nbc "wall street journal" poll. this is what happened when a florida crowd last night started chanting "fire fauci." [ chanting ] >> don't tell anybody but let me wait until a little bit after the election. >> well, we have correspondents in all the battleground states across the country. let's begin with nbc correspondent hallie jackson in north carolina where the president is right now. nbc's mike memoli in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, and nbc white house correspondent and "weekend today" co-host. hallie, we saw a lot of discipline with candidate trump in the final weeks both on the stump and twitter in 2016. that's certainly not what we're

seeing now. the attack against fauci, also praising the texas guys who went after the kamala harris bus. >> reporter: andrea, you're right. there is some political risk to the way the president is conducting the final 48 hours or so of his campaign. i'm struck. we had a chance, and our viewers did, to listen in to president trump, who is on stage behind me in fayetteville and joe biden at their campaign events. both these candidates talking numbers, right? the numbers they were talking about really illustrates how different their campaigns are. joe biden focuses on the numbers of coronavirus cases, deaths and hospitalizations in this country. president trump focused, frankly, on his polling numbers giving a recitation of the events that unfolded in 2016 when polling showed him underperforming and he, of course, ended up winning. that has been a large part of his message around the country in key battle grounds like this one. remember, north carolina is a

state he won by about 3 1/2 points back in 2016. right now it shows basically a dead heat between president trump and joe biden if you look at the sort of polling average overall in north carolina. that said, the trump campaign is feeling pretty good about where they stand in this state and others. maybe less so wisconsin and michigan. so much of the focus is actually on where my colleagues here covering the biden campaign in pennsylvania where president trump will be later today. you talk about unconventional closing arguments, i'm going to turn around because i heard the crowd chanting a bit as we often hear atrialies, lock him up. what is different this year, andrea, the president focusing so much on the popular pandemic figure dr. anthony fauci. there is risk involved. the president's base, people showing up at his recreationalies may shout fire fauci and have unfavorable view of the nation's top infectious disease doctor, there are other americans, inld voters, small

slice of undecided voters who feel very differently. andrea, on that texas caravan, i wouldn't be surprised to have the president incorporate that into his pretty standard stump speech in north carolina. he was tweeting on the flight over, rather, the fbi investigation is ongoing into what happened there near houston. andrea. >> hallie jackson. a big trump rally. i don't think you see many masks. mike memoli in pittsburgh and western pennsylvania. tell us about the surprising trip at the last minute to ohio. obviously they planned it. they are seeing something in ohio. do they really think they have a shot in ohio? >> they do, andrea. these final few days for joe biden have been about fortifying and in the case of minnesota trying to rebuild that blue wall throughout the midwest and into pennsylvania. the biden campaign thinks they have multiple paths to the presidency. the battleground map you see

from joe biden is what happens one of the shorter paths. really, andrea, as you look at what biden is doing, closing out in western pennsylvania, this really brings us full circle. joe biden's first rally as an announced candidate for president last april was here in pittsburgh. he said that day if he's going to beat donald trump, it's going to be because he wins and has to win in western pennsylvania. now, i've been talking to members of the pennsylvania delegates, other strategists who say they feel good about pennsylvania, we do see a five-point lead in most of the polls but the biden campaign not taking anything for granted. that's why you see not just joe biden today, all of the surrogates, top principles in this battleground state. in terms of the closing message, hallie laid it out there, very much a contrast between trump and joe biden. biden focused on the campaign saying he would fire donald trump and rehire anthony fauci and also talking about the disappointment of economic uncertainty here especially for middle class and union workers,

andrea. >> mike memoli, thank you so much. kristen welker, you're in philadelphia, your hometown where we'll see kamala harris. but the democrats star power is down south today with president obama trying to put the party over the top in florida and georgia, two really important states to them. >> reporter: you're absolutely right, andrea. former president barack obama is joe biden's biggest surrogate. he is his biggest character witness and out making his closing arguments today. those two critical states you talked about, florida and georgia, he's going to be in the atlanta area campaigning for senate candidates there and, of course, joe biden. they think all of those races are going to help energize voters to get to the polls. it's remarkable we're talking about georgia, a reliably red state a democrat hasn't won in a presidential election since 1992 but underscores how

extraordinary the state of that race is. then former president obama will be in florida in the miami area. i've been talking to democrats, those close to the campaign. they said, look, they are somewhat concerned about the turnout they are seeing in the miami-dade area. they wish it was greater in terms of democrats turning out to vote early. that is why barack obama is going to be so critical there in florida today. they think, they are hoping he will energize black and latino voters to get to the poll on election day if they haven't voted early. if president trump doesn't win florida, it's going to be very difficult for him to win this election. that is why democrats are fighting so hard for the sunshine state. then you're going to have kamala harris closing out her day here with john legend as vice president joe biden has a big event in pittsburgh with lady gaga. andrea. >> john legend also a local guy, proud graduate of the university of pennsylvania and coming home for joe biden tonight. hallie jackson, another

pennsylvania person, person woman. mike memoli. kristen welker, thank you so much. joining us now, david plouffe, former adviser to president obama, 2008 campaign and james carville, co-host of "the politics war room" podcast. thanks to both of you for being with us. the excitement of this election and fear on both sides is palable. david plouffe, let's talk about the number. i want to start with this from chuck todd this morning on "today." >> the good news is joe biden he just needs one and would give him 270. arizona would give him 270. let's say president holds onto that. florida auto would do it, say the president holds onto that. georgia would do it. maybe he holds onto that. look what this does. this puts us right here. this is the nightmare. joe biden does not want us -- if this is what we're waiting for, it's going to be a long month. not a long night, not a long week but a long month.

>> pennsylvania does not count the mail-in ballots and absentee ballots until the polls close on election day. so that's what we're talking about. this could be a very long time indeed. david plouffe, first to you. >> well, it could be, andrea, we'll see. i mean, you see with that map joe biden many, many different ways to win the presidency, which james knows that's where you want to be heading into election day. you want to lose a bunch of your targets, you want to win them all, and that's where we are. joe biden is as strong as any democrat has been since bill clinton in '96, even going back to lbj in '6. the thing that concerns me in any election is election day is always a challenge. you want to make sure your support materializes in vote, and this during a pandemic. so democrats should not rest comfortably and make sure we have a strong election day. listen, what we saw this morning

is remarkable. you have donald trump closing the day before the election talking about polls, talking about firing dr. fauci, protecting domestic terrorists. joe biden is talking about the economy and covid. that incapsulates where we are in this campaign. i don't think it will help donald trump win a single undecided voter. i don't think it helps with turnout either. he looks beaten. that looks like a small defeated person who understands what's coming tomorrow night. we still have a lot of work to do but i'm struck by just the body language we see from donald trump this morning, which is really, really got a dispirited base. >> james carville, you werometer miesque about democratic hopes for a long time, since biden nailed the nomination. how has that changed at all? we see democrats and mail-in, we don't know how many will be counted, how many tloep out in

some states and how many might be stopped by court decision toss come. republicans by all counts have a real advantage with election day voting. >> first of all, we're going to know the winner of this election by 10:00 tomorrow night. >> by what time? >> what people are doing is unnecessarily scaring people and making them unnecessary ily nervous. that event -- david plouffe is exactly right, that event in north carolina, a state if he loses, i don't want to wait on pennsylvania in north carolina he's going to lose. that event was literally insane. you're in eastern north carolina, a state that you've got to win and you're talking about some pollster at fox news. it is literally insane that anybody -- any politician would use that as a closing argument. i am not the least bit concerned about the outcome tomorrow night, and i'm not the least bit concerned that we're going to have to wait weeks or months to

find out what the result is. we'll know and we'll know early. >> whether or not about suppression and intimidation. we know the warning signs in michigan about open carry and in north carolina over the weekend you had children and adults who were by all reports at a peaceful rally who ended up being pepper sprayed in a particular county and were unable to vote. >> look, that bus thing in texas, yes, i'm mortified. i'm not mortified by the outcome of the election, i'm mortified by potential violence. look at the early vote. people waiting in line for 11 hours to vote. 10,000 people in line in harris county, texas, in the middle of the night. when you tell people you can't do something or you try to make it harder for them to do, it aggravates the dickens out of them and makes them want to do it more. in all these courts, i think

this stuff is back firing magnificently. i really do. particularly black people. the right to vote is inherent in their history. the more you try to keep them from voting, the more they are going to want to vote. you're going to see enormous turnout, and it's going to be driven a lot by you tell me i can't do something, watch me. i'm going to go do it. i see that happening in early vote, and i think it will carry through to election day. >> david plouffe, james set it up perfectly. let's talk about the numbers of early votes, more than 93 million votes have already been cast throughout the country. what kind of pressure do you think those numbers put on trump's turnout machine. they were in the field canvassing a month, if not a year, when joe biden was concerned and not doing in-person door knocking because of covid. >> listen, the pressure is on trump because so much of his vote is waiting on election day. we have covid cases on the rise. he looks like a lunatic loser.

so everything they have is riding on election day. from a biden strapped point and democratic senate standpoint, other democrats, organizationally, so many votes cast. you have a smaller pool of people that haven't voted yet that you need to work tonight and tomorrow. listen, there's still a lot of hard work to be done. if you want joe biden to win, democrats to win back the senate, there's a lot of door knocking in battleground states. can you make phone calls, text. all the pressure on trump. so much of his vote now has to come in tomorrow. i agree with james, at the end of the day people are intent on seeing donald trump lose this election. when he's out there, he's trying to suppress the vote. i think it's going to backfire, i really do. people are going to show up tomorrow who haven't voted yet. we see in early voting strong numbers among young voters, first time voters. in early votes, democrats versus republicans, i think joked will

convincingly win independents and nonaffiliated voters. at the end of the day donald trump has everything riding on tomorrow. at the end of the day the only way he wins, and it could happen, the polls have to be off five, six, seven points, the most we've seen in history and has to win election day. historic turnout for him. i don't think that's going to happen. i think democrats are going to have a strong election day. you've got to work. that's the job of everybody who wants to see a new president. >> david plouffe, james carville, thanks for setting that up for us. georgia, as james was talking about, georgia and north carolina, two battleground states that could be pivotal. and the senate. joining me blayne alexander and morgan in south carolina. first to you, typically a red

state, biden making a big play. stacey abrams' organization has done so much, pr campaigning for biden as well as two democrats for the senate. >> you know, andrea, i've got to say that i covered the 2016 election in the state of georgia four years ago as a local reporter and it looked nothing like this. this is typically a state big candidates, big names ignore in the final days, final hours before election day. as you said, it has been reliably red, hasn't gone plus for years. right now georgia finds itself almost unpredictably in solidly battleground territory. the polls show the two are virtually tied. that's what you see behind me. this stageafter waiting president barack obama in a couple hours or so. he's going to be here to make closing arguments for joe biden and also shows what we saw yesterday. we saw president trump here. we saw senator kamala harris

here. joe biden was here just last week. just the fact there's so much attention focused on the state of georgia shows two things. one, democrats think they have a chance to turn it blue and republicans are trying desperately to keep that from happening, andrea. >> morgan radford in charlotte, north carolina, president trump east of you in fayetteville. what are the democrats doing to turn out the vote there in this really important state? >> reporter: andrea, you are looking at the ground game for democrats. we're in mecklenburg. officials say 2020 strategy looks a lot like 2018 strategy. they are focusing on health care, jobs, and the economy. that, andrea, is exactly what they think will flip those critical swing suburban voters who have been slipping away from president trump. take a listen to allison cooksey jones. she's a lifelong republican. this year she says she's casting her ballot for joe biden, and she's not alone. >> i know a bunch of women whose

husbands are deep republicans and have been for many years, they are choosing not to tell their husband who they are voting for. or just sure, honey, whatever, you know, but they are secret biden voters and i know a bunch of them. >> you think there are a lot of people, women in particular you describe. >> women in particular. >> who are like you, lifelong republicans who are secretly going to vote for joe biden. >> absolutely. >> allison says she's also voting a straight democratic ticket, that includes cal cunningham and critical senate race democrats are hoping they can win here in north carolina as one of those three critical states they need to regain a balance of power. andrea. >> an important point a 20-point gender gap. unbelievable 20-point gender gap that joe biden enjoys over donald trump. thank you, blayne, thank you, morgan. thanks to both of you. joining me democratic congressman and biden co-chair.

thank you, congressman, thanks for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> it's great to have you here. your top priorities on this day before the election and on election day, what are you looking at? >> well, what we want is america to finish the job. over 93 million americans have participated in democratic process, kpaeexercised their po and their vote and we need the rest of america to do their job, exercise their will. it's the most important facet of the democratic process, makes us such an exceptional country. we want everybody to participate. our job is to continue to highlight the differences between president trump, who cares about himself, and vice president joe biden who cares about the american people more than his own ego. so that's our closing message. covid-19 and a responsible response. we want everybody to participate in the process in a safe and

responsible manner. if you're voting in person, wear your mask and make sure your vote is cast. >> there have been warning signs for your campaign in the last couple days that the black vote is not turning out strongly enough for joe biden in the early vote, at least, in south carolina -- rather in florida and in some othertates, north carolina maybe as well. there could be some suppression going on. certainly a delay in postal service letter deliveries we've seen in a lot of big cities with large minority populations which could be something other than coincidence. what are your concerns about getting the black vote out? >> i think the black vote will be very robust. i think they want to make sure their voice is heard. i think a lot of it will be outrage to the fact donald trump is trying so hard to keep them from voting. then there's between other things you have to keep in mind. the post office, because of donald trump and the cuts and

everything, they are overwhelmed. if you give them the benefit of the doubt. i think a lot of african-americans who requested ballots are deciding they will cast their vote in person on election day. and it's almost become a ritual for african-americans to vote on election day. it's sort of a home coming at the voting polls. i choose to vote on election day because you get to see poll workers and neighbors and friends and catch up. so look, we're going to have a great turnout tomorrow. it's going to match everything we've seen. if you look at the record numbers in georgia, those states that don't have record numbers, i think you'll see record numbers catch up tomorrow on in-person voting. >> and finally there was an incident over the weekend in north carolina, a really troubling incident with pepper spray being used against protesters, largely minority voters trying to protest peacefully and then go vote and many of them couldn't get to the

polls afterwards. >> it's very troubling. then if you compound that with what they did in texas and the fact the president of the united states tweeted out and was proud of people harassing his political opponent, ramming cars, physical injury, and risking real harm and life and death. but it's exactly what this president did with covid. he covered it up, endangered the american people, all because he cared about re-election more than real people. so we're just going to continue to tell everybody if you see something, say something. all the voter hot lines today and tomorrow, call them if you see something problematic. we're going to be there to push back all day tomorrow, especially when president trump prematurely declares victory no matter what the numbers say. we're not going to let him lead this country into chaos and confusion simply because he has an outsized ego and doesn't know

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coronavirus cases are still on the rise in wisconsin. the state yet again breaking its daily case record over the weekend with positivity rate at a staggering 30%. meanwhile joe biden is leading president trump by 11 points in wisconsin in the latest "new york times" poll. nbc's gabe gutierrez joins us from milwaukee at a drive-through testing site outside the stadium. gabe, how are hospitals handling the surge? are they close to capacity or still in the safe zone? >> andrea, the hospitals are at about 85% capacity of their

covid so far. we're at a drive-through testing center that just opened up a short time ago. it's busy but by miller park, home of milwaukee brewers. we came through the testing site a few weeks ago when it opened. it's busy, a steady stream of cars we see throughout the day. andrea, as you mentioned, wisconsin is breaking its number of daily covid cases. this is one of the states per capita, number three per capita in the entire u.s. 3500 cases or so each day. certainly, andrea, this is a key issue that many voters here in wisconsin are dealing with. also doctors and nurses we've spoken with are very concerned about what happens not just here in wisconsin but across the country over the next couple of months. into the flu season and winter. we spoke with one doctor yesterday here in milwaukee who is frustrated that a certain

amount of the country still feels that the coronavirus is a hoax. he says he's going from room to room in his hospital and seeing people on ventilators. we traveled across the country, minnesota, el paso, arizona, this is hitting many parts of the country that weren't expecting such a huge surge in cases over the last couple of weeks. again, here in milwaukee, huge amount of testing going on. as you mentioned, a staggering 30% or so positivity rate, comparison in places like new york it's about 1%. >> it is staggering. thank you so much, gabe. joining us now dr. michael ost osterho osterhome. welcome. it's good to have you as our truth teller on the false information coming from some of the deniers on the disease. the nation set a new daily

record, doctor, more than 98,000 cases as you know well. it was the fifth time since october 22nd, less than two weeks ago, that we had a new daily cases record set. we've surpassed 9 million cases a few days after reaching 8 million. we heard from gabe about the situation in wisconsin. when he was in billings, montana, he had an incredibly powerful interview with a nurse saying we are broken. we are broken here. how bad is this going to get? >> you know, andrea, on labor day we had about 32,000 cases per day in this country. now as you pointed out, last week at 98,000 cases a day. we're going to look back in the not too distant future and think, boy, i wish we were back to 98,000 cases a day. that's what america has to get ready for. it's going to happen. we're going to see more and more health systems overwhelmed. the painful issue is not only

seeing people sick and dying but broken health care workers as the days go forward. >> and we heard from the president, of course, over the weekend saying the doctors are making money on this and falsely putting covid down on death certificates because they get some kind of extra fee, which i guess some people might believe. dr. fauci told "the washington post" we're in for, quote, a whole lot of hurt and the united states could not possibly be positioned more poorly as we head into the winter, saying the country needs to make an abrupt change in public health. do you agree? >> absolutely agree. until we get to the vaccines, which are not likely to have any impact until the second quarter of next year, we're going to have to do this by traditional public health measures, asking people not to be close with each other unless they are potted together. people who basically only share air with each other. if you are out in public spaces,

if you are going to be participating in so many events you can expect you might get infected. today half of the cases in the united states are people who have no idea where they picked it up. they were just out in the public and that's how they got it. >> last night the president responded to a fire fauci chant in florida to the crowd by saying just let's wait a bit after the election. how would we be situated going into the vaccine certifications and all the rest if dr. fauci is not there? >> we need the entire public health team. i think at this point obviously tony is a critical part of that, but there's a number of critical people in the u.s. government that will play a very important role in rolling out the vaccines. to try and minimize this pandemic at this point and to even suggest that you're going to fire or move these people is really, really a tragedy. we're going to need everybody

hands on deck with the expertise they need to bring. >> thank you so much, dr. michael osterholm. >> thank you. >> debbie dingell warned democrats about hillary clinton losing michigan in 2016. what's her message to the biden campaign today? we'll talk to the congresswoman when she joins us after a quick break. we'll be right back. he joins us eabrk. we'll be right back. if you have medicare, listen up. the medicare enrollment deadline is only weeks away. with so many changes, do you know if your plan is still the right fit? having the wrong plan may cost you thousands of dollars out of pocket. and that's why i love healthmarkets, your insurance marketplace. with healthmarkets' fitscore, they compare thousands of plans from national insurance companies to find the right medicare plan that fits you. call or visit healthmarkets to find your fitscore today. in minutes, you can find out if your current plan is the right fit and once you've let the fitscore do the work, sit back and enjoy not having to shop for insurance again. healthmarkets' fitscore forever technology will continuously scan the market for the best

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president trump's battleground blitz includes two stops in michigan, first in traverse city and gerald ford's place. he closed out there 230four yea ago. mail-in ballots are being processed. michigan is one of the states they can't start counting until election day. how long will it take place? >> check this out. 52,000 absentee ballots here in this room today. they cannot start counting them until tomorrow morning. but for the first time ever they can start preprocessing them today. here is what that means. they can begin opening these

envelopes. right over here we've got folks hard at work at the electronic letter opener, college grads, identical twins, by the way, helping out. then these envelopes go to these good folks over here, about 50 election workers, taking out secrecy sleeves from these envelopes. they are going to be checking that the ballot number on the ballot stub matches the number on the envelope. that's john and alma here working it hard. then those secrecy sleeves will go away. they are going to be sealed until tomorrow morning when there's a lot of work left to do. i did talk to grand rapids clerk who said this is 10 hours of work they will not have to do tomorrow. still won't get results until wednesday morning at the earliest. >> thank you so much. >> joining us michigan congresswoman debbie dingell. thanks for being here. you warned the clinton campaign in good time back in 2016 they

had to work harder in michigan. what are you telling joe biden's campaign today. >> well, they certainly listened to me, andrea, i know that. they trusted me. i did say for the very first time yesterday i think the momentum is on joe biden's side. i bluntly don't think that many of the union workers that voted for him last time have come back. but women who stayed home, that didn't think their vote mattered, are coming out in record numbers. i think their campaign started the weekend after the inaugural when i had 20,000 people in auburn the weekend of the million women march. clearly the numbers are up a little in detroit and along the i-75 border. so i think the momentum is with joe biden but i'm not going to be okay until it's over. >> can the gender gap, can women carry biden over to victory there in michigan?

do you have to bring back some of those union workers? >> i think we brought back some of those union workers. remember, i'm not a pollster, although i don't believe polsters. i was talking to some of my friends saying maybe last time it was 40% hillary, 60% donald trump. now i'm guessing maybe -- this is just a guess from talking to people the last few days, 60% joe biden, 40% donald trump. but that's enough. the women are just turning out in record numbers. i cannot tell you, the same weekend i had a trump caravan disrupt me, i had one woman celebrated her 74th birthday who had never participated in politics ever walking to deliver literature last weekend. they also don't like to be called suburban housewives. >> i should also woint out a lot of union workers are women as

well. but i was talking about the men who are the key supportive group. what kind of margins do you think you might get out of michigan? >> you know, i hope -- i think maybe -- the polsters think double digits. it's not double digits. it's like four or five. the governor and i keep texting each other. we all want -- we've worked hard. i'm out this still working every second until the polls close tomorrow night and making sure we turn out every single vote. >> we trust the dingell meter. that's my barometer for michigan. thank you, debbie dingell, always good to see you before an election. >> thank you, andrea. joining me now is dan from the "washington post," congressman david jolly, who was a former republican congressman

and pbs news hour white house correspondent. thanks to all. dan, first to you. you have done this for so long and so expertly, what is your big picture takeaway a day before the election as to where the country stands? >> well, it stands divided, and it stands on edge. i think people are nervous about all kinds of things. it's also astonishing how many people are voted and are determined to vote. i remember you and i had the conversation during the height of the postal service problems. i said i thought people were going to find a way to vote no matter what. i think the early vote is testament to that. we've got 95 million or 100 million who voted. we don't know how many more are going to come out tomorrow. it's clear it's a record number. i think the biden campaign, as congresswoman dingell suggested, i think they feel they are in a reasonably good place but they

are nervous. everybody remembers 2016. the president has a tremendous amount of energy in this close, just as he did in 2016. his message is all over the lot, but nonetheless, he's energizing his supporters. there are someunknowns, but if you look at the broad numbers, it looks pretty good for biden at this point. >> and yamiche, the president has these enormous rallies that he takes huge comfort from, and they are energizing the base clearly. the biden campaign was really running a virtual campaign for so long not out and about. in the coronavirus and given the importance of that as an issue, which footprint seems to be smarter? >> well, really, we'll learn which footprint was smarter tom. the trump campaign does feel confident in the fact that the president's holding these big rallies. people see these rallies not just as energizing the base and

getting people in those critical battleground states to come out and be thinking about the election, they also think this is a data situation. this is a data operation where they collect all of the information from all of these people who go to these large rallies and then they follow up to make sure those people make it to the polls. we of course have seen the biden campaign take a much more cautious role here. dr. anthony fauci says he sees the campaign of biden as being smarter in terms of how they're approaching this because of course this is a public health crisis. he did have some seemingly criticizing words for the trump administration saying that it looks like they're more focused on the economy and opening up, but that being said, both sides seem to be happy about the way that they've come forward with this and the way that they've conducted themselves. so i think we're really going to have to see tomorrow night who actually ends up being the winner. i should say that in florida you already see people like frederica wilson who knows south florida and miami better than anyone saying the biden campaign

should have been out knocking on doors a little sooner in florida, but who knows what will happen tomorrow. >> and there is some worry amongst people, democrats, david jolly, about getting the black turnout, the miami-dade turnout because they did not do enough canvassing early enough. what are you seeing in florida where president obama is going to be rallying again today? >> yeah, andrea, i'm looking at three things, and it's reflective, i think, nationwide, not just florida but let's start first with the voters of color, particularly black voters. you know, nationally you can look at a demographic and say, well, democrats are winning at 90 to 10, and you think it doesn't have any real consequence. it absolutely does. understand that traditionally republicans, particularly in florida, rick scott, mitt romney when he ran performed in the single-digits for the most part among african-american voters. 4 pre 4% rick scott got in large parts of the state. mitt romney maybe 5. the trump campaign and republicans have felt encouraged for a year that they can get

that number among black voters to the low double-digits and low teens. it's just math. in a state where this race could be decided by 100, 150 votes, that delta could swing the entire state towards florida. i think that's what ms. wilson is concerned about, congresswoman wilson. i'm also looking at the senior vote that turned out early, it appears for biden. can trump make up ground on election day? if the senior vote swings largely towards biden, that's a very good night for joe biden and florida nationally. and viewers, the broward county votes in florida always report late, so look for those broward county votes. when you're seeing the early numbers in florida, if it's a tight race that's good for biden because he makes it up in broward. if biden's down he can make it up in broward. if trump's ahead, watch out, broward could all of a sudden equalize things before midnight. >> fair warning, thank you all so much. david jolly, dan balls, yamiche

alcind alcindor. battleground texas, if you believe some of the indicators. that's where we find msnbc's garrett haake with the latest on a court case in harris county that could have a big impact. 127,000 votes from those votes which are now being challenged. what are you hearing? >> reporter: let me put it in context. this is a state that was decided in the 2018 senate race by just 250,000 votes or so in total. so these 127,000 votes cast here in harris county that remain in limbo are a big deal potentially on the margins of all of these battleground states we're watching in texas and in the houston area specifically. i'm standing at the federal court house. the texas supreme court threw out the legal challenge yesterday. a federal judge is going to given this republican driven lawsuit one more go. i've been listening to the arguments and they center on

whether or not the harris county clerk who set up this drive-through system overstepped his authority as a clerk. the republican appointed judge is very upset this is coming to his doorstep the day before the election. drive-through voting has been in place or was in place for several weeks here during the early voting period. it wasn't challenged on the front end. he doesn't seem particularly inclined to be dealing with this at the 11th hour when the voters would have one last chance to recast their ballots should it be thrown out now. we expect a decision to be made today. the harris county clerk who set up this system said if these ballots are thrown out -- and he does not believe they will be, that the county would engage in a massive voter contact program to try to find those 127,000 voters and make sure they get a chance to cast their ballots again tomorrow. here in houston, turnout already way off the charts. 1.4 milli 1.4 million votes cast, potentially another million votes outstanding. if those 100,000 people have to

be found and brought back, we're going to have a banner day tuesday almost no matter what, but a little bit of last minute chaos and concern about the availability of these folks who have cast their votes to be certain that their votes counted, andrea. >> battleground texas, i have to get my head around that. garrett haake, thank you so much, and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." msnbc's prime time election coverage begins tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern with nicolle wallace and chris hayes at 5:00. at 6:00 eastern, brian williams and rachel maddow lead our coverage along with steve kornacki at the big board. i'll be part of the team with lester holt, savannah guthrie and chuck todd. after a quick break, chuck will pick it up with ""mtp dailmtp d your station for election news, msnbc. on for election news, msnbc.

thank you, fayetteville, and north carolina, thank you very much. tomorrow we are going to win this state, and we are going to win four more years. >> it's time for donald trump to pack his bags and go home. we're done! we're done with the chaos. we're done with the tweets, the anger, the hate, the failure, the irresponsibility. we've got a whole