like we said before, if you or anyone you know hasn't voted yet, make sure you still do that. this is ari melber on about the abo "the beat." "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. okay, we are almost at the finish line, america! deep breaths. election day is tomorrow and polls will begin closing exactly 24 hours from this very second. it is an election unlike anything that we've ever seen before, from the historic, earth-shattering early voting numbers that are setting records all over the country to the insidious act of voter suppression and, frankly, outright thuggery that we are seeing from trump supporters on highways and roadways and red and blue and purple states everywhere. at the heart of this election, a pandemic that has ravaged this country, something both nominees addressed today as their

campaigns come to a close. >> you can't go to church, you can't take your family to dinner, but you can let people riot down the middle of your beautiful shopping street, knocking the hell out of people, burning down your stores like in minneapolis, burning the hell out of the place until we sent in the national guard. >> we choose hope over fear! we choose unity over division! we choose science over fiction, and, yes, we choose truth over lies! >> we at "the reidout" know many of you are feeling a lot right now, excitement, trepidation and, yes, buckets of anxiety. trust me when i tell you, family, because this is true, in real life the only two things that matter right now are keeping yourself safe from covid-19 and voting. that's it. if you have already voted,

high-five and now, please, try to get others to vote. get creative with your civic duty. take cookies or walk grandma to the poll because tomorrow is. time to sprint to the tape. what you shouldn't do is give one more second of your time and mental energy to the distraction the trump games are hurling at you, those mega caravans, the clashes and blockings of roadways, all of the highway stunts, the threatening displays of guns and rifles, fear tactics that, frankly, aren't working and we know they aren't working because 97 million people have already voted and will vote tomorrow. we will keep you informed on the numbers, data and science. we're going to have steve schmidt and eric holder weighing in on the pivotal moment in american history and we are going to spend our time telling you what's true. but, first, the latest from key must-win battlegrounds starting with the state that could decide it all, the big p.a.,

pennsylvania. msnbc correspondent mike memoli is covering the biden campaign in pittsburgh, where i understand there might be a lady gaga situation happening. tell us what's going on, mike. >> yeah, that's right, joy. the biden campaign believes they have many paths to 270 electoral votes tomorrow. the two main ones we've seen on disly the last few days, there's what you would call the sun belt path, georgia, florida, north carolina, where we've seen kamala harris and president obama today focused the last two days. joe biden has been focused exclusively and relentlessly what you call the blue wall state path, that's efforts to rebuild that path donald trump forged on his way to the white house four years ago, michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania, pennsylvania, pennsylvania. and this is really a full-circle moment for joe biden as he ends his campaign here in pittsburgh. he began it here last april. he started his campaign at a union hall in pittsburgh, and he said if he's going to beat donald trump, it's going to be because of places like western

pennsylvania. four years ago, joy, i was with joe biden on election eve when he was campaigning with tim kaine. tim kaine, passing of the torch kind of moment, if he expected to be elected vice president the next day. joe biden on a much more cautionary note, god willing we're going to win this, but even if we do, we have to understand why so many people are voting for the other guy. we're ending for joe biden what has been a four-year effort to try to show democrats with expand the coalition and keep those working, blue-collar democrats he's always considered his base. >> mike memoli out there with folks dancing and probably lady gaga, who's probably letting the campaign use her music legitimately. now from grand rapids, michigan, where trump will begin his final appearances, msnbc reporter dasha burns. what's going on there? i don't see anyone dancing behind you. >> no dancing, people are exhausted because we're at the end of a very long day for election workers here. 52,000 absentee ballots in the

city of grand rapids that cannot be counted until tomorrow, joy, which is a challenge. but election workers got a bit of a head start today. they were allowed to begin preprocessing these envelopes, which means they can open the envelopes and they can take out these secrecy sleeves and begin the initial step of verification. joy, when we started the day, every table looked like this one here but now look at this room. they've gone through 35,000 ballots now. this may not seem like a big step but i spoke to the grand rapids city clerk, who doeld me this saved them about ten hours of labor they won't have to do tomorrow. now these ballots are being sealed away in these ballot bags. they will be locked away until tomorrow morning. here we have a republican and democrat certifying these ballots to get ready for tomorrow. and, joy, still michigan is going to be one of those states we're waiting on, they probably won't have results here until wednesday at the earliest.

one late-breaking news out of this state at an issue we've been following closely, guns at the polls. there's a legal battle over this. the secretary of state issued a ban of open carry and that was struck down by two lower courts and innish mish supreme court was supposed to a ruling today. they did not do so which means open carry will be allowed at the polls tomorrow. joy? >> i hope people will be very, very, very careful out there at the polls. dasha burns, thank you very much. appreciate it. joining me now is the host of "american voices" on msnbc, alisa mendez, live from my former neighborhood, the m.i.a., south florida. what you got for me? and give me specifics what we're looking on in terms specifically of the latino vote. but falk about what you're seeing. >> well, mrs. 305 as you know better than most, this state is very close. this year will likely be no exception, polling showing joe biden with a slight edge but even those polls within the margin of error. you have voters who supported

donald trump peeling off, wife voters, women voters, seniors. at the same time you have this large latino electorate, 17% of the electorate. you have cuban-american republicans who are largely skeptical of donald trump in 2016, a lot of those voters have returned home. you also have puerto ricans, one of the largest two subgroups within the latino electorate in the state telling joy that today you had former president obama making a pitch directly to them, talking about the president's handling of hurricane maria, the response there. while, of course, these are not single-issue voters that is, of course, an animating issue for them. joy, the thing i'm seeing here on the ground that i didn't fully appreciate reading and watching the polls was how much fear and anxiety is really motivating this electorate, whether it's trump supporters, fear of socialism, the attack that has been levied against the former vice president or whether it is supporters of joe biden, afratd of another four years of

donald trump, afraid of what they called his autocratic tendencies, afraid he has no plan on the economy, health care or the handling of this pandemic. joy? >> alicia, thank you very much. let's turn to the man with the numbers, msnbc national correspondent and board master, steve kornacki. he's at his big board. all right, make us feel better or give us more anxiety. choose your adventure. let's see. >> let's take a look here, interesting, because this is the national polling average. you see biden's lead sitting 7 1/2 points on average election eve, if you want to compare that to 2016 on election eve, hillary clinton's lead in the polling average over donald trump was three. so it's three then, it's about 7 1/2 now. by the way, what did she end up winning the popular vote by in 2016? she won it by two. and that was just enough with the popular vote lead for clinton, there was still enough room for trump to win in the

electoral college. the talk this year, just given the nature of the electoral college, coalition of both parties, is at least potentially trump could win in the electoral college while losing the popular vote by a wider margin than last time, a wider margin than two points. let's take a look at the battle for the electoral college. here's the battleground now. the bottom line going into it is trump is the one playing defense. all of those states you see in the battleground here, these are trump states. these are places that were trump states in 2016. he won them then. hose tryi he's trying to hold on to most of them now so he can hang on to 270 electoral votes. what's interesting looking inside the states, the margin, arizona we had a poll that had it tied 48/48. texas, the polling there is close. it's always close in florida. georgia, north carolina, ohio, iowa. there was one over the weekend that had the president ahead by seven points in iowa.

the best poll numbers you see in the swing states for biden, by far, are these three, wisconsin and michigan in particular and then pennsylvania, our poll there, nbc/marist poll put biden's lead at five. if biden wins these three, wisconsin, michigan, if he wins pennsylvania, that would put him over 270. and we wouldn't be talking about the rest of these states here but if trump can put a win on the board in one of these three and the one his campaign, of course, talks about is pennsylvania. if biden got wisconsin, biden got michigan and trump got pennsylvania, that would leave trump alive politically for the rest of the electoral college and he would pretty much need to sweep from that point, win iowa and ohio, north carolina, georgia, florida. texas. he would need to run the table in all of these states. that's a lot. they're all competitive, especially when you get outside wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania but trump would -- they all need to land on trump's

side. he couldn't win some of them. he would have to win all of them. that's two big orders of business. try to pick off pennsylvania, that's what trump's got to do. our poll has him down five. and not win some but win all of everything that's left elsewhere. so that's why he's down, we show, 7 1/2 points nationally. that's what it looks like when you're down 7 1/2 points nationally. he needs a lot of things to go right for him in the electoral college to pull it out there and there are all sorts of points here, where biden just puts up a win in florida or north carolina or georgia, that could pretty much end it. >> i need a one-word answer from you, steve, what state are you going to be the most interested in watching tomorrow night? >> florida. >> there you go. it's always florida, florida, florida. steve kornacki, thank you very much. i appreciate it. let's bring in karine jean-pierre, senior adviser for the biden campaign and chief of staff to vice president nominee kamala harris. you heard steve, florida. and that's how you pronounce it, florida! let's talk about florida.

i obsess over it. i text with florida folks every day all day. it is a state that gives me a lot of anxiety, even when i was working in a very low level on the obama campaign in '08. where does the campaign feel they are in florida? i -- to be honest, i'm skeptical when i see biden up by four in that state. >> joy, as you know, florida is going to be close. it is always close. it's going to be very, very close. we saw president barack obama there today making that final case to voters in florida to go out and vote. let's not be complacent. we need you. we need you to get out there. and so that is just the case in florida. but here's the thing, you know, the thing that we are -- that we see and even listening to steve is that our campaign has multiple paths to victory so we have to work very hard to gain every vote and fight, fight through the tape, fight through all of those paths, because that's the way we're going to

win this thing. yes, we are leading with early voting in all of the battleground states right now but tomorrow is another day. tomorrow many people are going to go out and vote on election day, and this is what we're doing. this is why you see all of the candidates, all of the principals, i should say, out today in pennsylvania. they fanned out through the state. you have joe biden, you have kamala harris, you have dr. jill biden in the state making sure they're making their case as to why we need change in this white house. so that is what we're doing, and we're going to continue to do that, joy, until the very last vote. >> let's talk about the blue wall states. these are the states that shocked everyone, went to trump very narrowly, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. let's zero in on pennsylvania. is the campaign prepared for a lengthy court battle out of pennsylvania, or is there a

sense that y'all might be able to just win pennsylvania straight out? >> look, in order to -- in order to win this thing and not have donald trump declare himself the winner tomorrow, which by the way, breaking news for him, you cannot declare yourself the winner. the people declare the winner. they decide who is going to be the next president of the united states, not donald trump. it would be good for us to win in a resounding way to send a loud message to donald trump and his allies. that is the goal. we are ready, joy, for anything. we ready for anything that happens post election and we're going to have our lawyers out there. we have put together one of the most impressive voter protection operation for our campaign where we have hotlines in all of the 17 battleground states. 17 battleground states we're playing in for this election just to make sure that all of the obstacles donald trump and

his allies put in front of voters, that voters understand how to get through them and what they need to do so that their voices can be heard. you know, so their sacred right to vote could be heard. >> yeah. karine jean-pierre, my friend stay warm. i see you're all bundled up! >> i know , it's cold. >> i have a big coat. you can't see it. karine jean-pierre, thank you very much. we love having you on. and donald trump is said to be worried, not about losing to joe biden but all of the investigations he would no longer be immune from starting at about noon on january 20th. i will talk with steve schmidt. plus, attorney general eric holder is here. he will join me on republican efforts to suppress the vote. you don't want to miss it. back with more of "the reidout" after this. he reidout" after this and because it's a ninja foodi, it can do things no other oven can, like flip away. the ninja foodi air fry oven,

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this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. america will start winning again, winning like never before. no school, no graduations, no weddings, no thanksgiving, no easter, no christmas, no fourth of july, and no future for america's youth. other than that, it's fine. >> he's really got little hands. when you realize, they're really tiny. are you tired of winning yet, huh? donald trump's closing argument after four years, scare mongering about a biden lockdown, which is actually just one massive self-own because all of that is already happening because of him and his surrender on the coronavirus. but he told his super-fans today he was making america great again, again and fighting for them. not so much for superfans he left stranded at three rallies in three different states, nebraska, georgia and pennsylvania in just the last week. meanwhile, joe biden is running

a new digital ad in battleground states with a very different message. >> we need to revive the spirit of being able to work with one another, and it starts with how we treat one another, how we talk with one another, how we respect one another. >> i'm joined now about steve schmidt, former republican strategist and cofounder of the linkage project. steve, you're a veteran of a lot of campaigns, at least one of which i have been on the other side from you, so i trust when you say you know when your side is going to win and your side is going to lose. give me where you are at. as you look at this race soberly, if you had to zoom out from the outside looking in, how strong is biden in those rustbelt states where he needs to win in florida and in those sunbelt states, and where do you see it going? >> look, i think joe biden will be elected president of the united states, and i think, joy, we'll know tomorrow that biden has been elected. it may be late into the night but before the sun comes up on

wednesday morning would be my prediction. i think biden would win pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. i think he's going to win one out of georgia, texas, arizona. he may win all three. when you look at the size of the early vote and you look at the dimensions of the vice president's lead, it's the biggest, it's the broadest of the modern era. it's bigger than the obama lead against mccain and i knew for sure mccain was going down the next day. look, the reality here is this, is that when you look at all of the evidence, when you look at all of the body language, you look at donald trump, you look at the things that are coming out of his mouth, it wreaks of a losing campaign. >> you've got "the new york times" writing that he's, you know, ruminating sort of about maybe facing prosecutorial scrutiny. that doesn't sound like a winner but you're right. you have stuff like today i

asked my producers to pull up a thing, to produce a little element for this, you've got friendly's closing, you have two big mall companies closing, this feeling of decay. meanwhile he's going around doing all of this happy talk on the virus. i have never seen anything like it. he's sort of pretending the decay isn't happening but then "the wall street journal" comes out and says, by the way, all of these stores are closing. i don't understand he's even at 40. >> look, i think at the end of the day, joy, we have a sociological problem in the country that we have 30% of the country that's fully involved in a cultive personality. we have a majority of the republican party believes in the basic tenets of the qanon theory. we have a conspiracy theory problem in this country. we have a radicalization problem. this is an extreme movement. the stanford university study estimates 30,000 people have been infected by trump's

campaign events. nearly 700 are killed. when we look at those events, we shake our heads but i think it's important to remember to keep perspective, it's an infinite small slice of the american population that you're seeing there chairing this insanity and delusional pab lomb like they are. very small slice of the country. when you step back and look at the totality of everything, i'm calm tonight. i think it's going to be a big victory. and i will also say this, i'm with james carville on this, at the end i know there's a lot of nervousness because so many people understand what the stakes of the election are. i think it's the most important election since the election of 1864 for the country but i believe in the country. i believe in america. and that point of view instructs me mr. what i think is going to

happen, and what i believe is going to happen is the american people are going to repudiate and humiliate the worst president this country ever had in our history, and i say that with no hype peshly, he's the most deadliest presence through incompetence and malfeasance the country's ever had, a failure at a titanic level. >> the way you can tell a campaign is running sort of kind of buantly, right, there's a joyness to it. when you see kamala harris out there, and barack obama out there shooting baskets, there's an upbeat nature to it. on the other side you've got these caravans -- they were even in my neighborhood. where i live, it's very blue and it's a blue area, they're drivi driving these caravans through, they're intimidating people. they're trying to run people off the road. people are putting up sort of signs showing their flags and like gangs of isis cars going down the street in syria and comparing it. they look like warlords.

that is another thing i have never seen, other than the brooks brother riot but even that wasn't this. what is this? >> this is a marker of a fascistic enterprise, and authoritarian movement that has taken root in american soil, like a noxious weed and invasive species. it is the same with the militia groups you see storming state capitals and the president of long rifles now as mainstays at political rallies. we are in an era of extremism. i make a direct linkage, for example, between the kid who sat in the front row of the trump rally and then the day after the mcclouskies were on television for the only possible reason being that they pointed weapons at black people who were peacefully protesting, and then a kid drove from illinois to wisconsin, shot three people

with his ar-15, driven by his mom, killed two of them. there's a direct line on all of this. and the genie is out of the bottle as they say on this. so i saw this in utah over the weekend. it's all over the country. it is menacing. the trump rallies have teamed with menace and violence on the fringes and at their core for four years. someone smarter than me has to explain to me the difference between the armed militia people and hitler's sa circa 1928, 1929. there's armed, politicized movement in this country that is faithful to donald trump and we know that because they've been quite explicit about it. >> you know what they're not doing, getting a single vote. that's not how you do politics and campaigns. that's why it's all very odd. as we say, it's a distraction. steve schmidt, thank you very much, my friend.

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okay, there's plenty of anxiety out there about what to expect tomorrow and beyond. well, let's try and calm some nerves and to walk you through what to expect tomorrow night and how nbc news goes about making those election calls.

i'm joined now by john lipinski, director of the election unit at nbc news. he's the guy responsible for projecting races. i'm very excited to have you here. i nerd out on this stuff, and i'm glad you're here to sort of explain it to us. my first question is sort of basic, how does nbc news decide when to call a state? like what data do you need to be able to do this? >> so thank you for having me, joy. there's a couple of things. for the most part in competitive races, what we actually rely on is actual vote data, and we need enough data that we can actually make essentially statistical projections that were 99.5% at a minimum confident in calling a race, so it's a combination of getting enough data to be able to have models that tell us we're statistically significant and also using my team, which is literally over a dozen people that are the best people in the country who are sort of ph.d.s

in the data sciences, political science election administration, where we also agree on the interpretation of the data. >> so here's the question, i saw the secretary of state was on doing tv today. he was saying 94% of our data will be in by the time the polls close, is that enough? let's say you have 94% of the data in. you know about 6% is still out there. is there a model that says, well, this 6% won't change it so we will call it for biden or trump? >> we actually -- there are basically three things. used to be two things but there are three things we look at now carefully when we call races. how much vote do we have? what's the spread? in this cycle, what type of vote is it? we know there's going to be such differences between early vote and election day vote, and so we absolutely make sort of a projection on the remaining vote or what the expected vote that is to be counted still on how we expect that to go, and we have a lot of data to look at and we know how to do that. >> let me put up for audiences

the states that close at 7:00, new hampshire, michigan, florida, georgia, north carolina 7:30, ohio, 7:30 and then start closing late down to nevada. that's what we're looking at as far as that night. do you expect to have enough data tomorrow night to tell which of these two candidates has 270 electoral college votes? >> so i think that right now, like if you really were to press me, i think it's sort of a jump ball. i think it's 50/50 if we're going to actually put a checkmark in for the race overall. but that said, i think we're going to know a lot on election night. we have a lot of states that count up almost all of their vote. even if we're not able to get to 270, our viewers, i think we can give them a very good sense of where the race stands. >> by the way, for all of us watching, just understand the race is not over until all of the votes, including absentee and military absentees counted. just because you don't get a number tomorrow night and you don't get a definitive answer

does not mean we're counting after the election. the election is over when all of the votes are counted, right? i'm accurate about that, right? >> yes, i mean, take states, this cycle in particular, it's going to -- >> yep. >> -- the results will be counted correctly and it might take it time to get them all in. >> and it's okay to take time. >> absolutely it's okay to take time. >> jonathan lipinski, thank you for spending time with us. up next, former attorney general eric holder will be here. don't go anywhere. all otc pain relievers including voltaren have one thing in common none are proven stronger or more effective against pain than salonpas patch large there's surprising power in this patch salonpas dependable, powerful relief. hisamitsu. joint pain, swelling, temy psoriasis. cosentyx works on all of this. cosentyx can help you look and feel better by treating the multiple symptoms of psoriatic arthritis.

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trump supporters are using caravans to disrupt and intimidate voters like this scene on garden state parkway and driving through predominantly minority neighborhoods like ft. worth, texas, while escorted by police. and blocking access to voting sites like in riverside, california. these efforts are not scaring democrats, it's pissing them off and making them more determined to vote. joining me is eric holder, former attorney general in the obama administration. attorney holder, let me start by asking you, isn't that illegal to intimidate voters in that way? >> yes. you have to come up with proof of people doing things with necessary intent but preventing somebody from getting to the polls, trying to intimidate somebody from casting a ballot is violating federal laws and state laws as well. >> let's talk about some of the things happening in specific states. you had a did ruling in texas that will allow drive-thru ballots to go through. and it went through a court that is the scene of a pretty hostile

court. what is the essence of these multiple court rulings in favor of more voting? >> at least to date the court rulings have all been good ones. what we saw from the judge in texas today was one that really, in a lot of ways, was a no-brainer. now, i understand that the plaintiffs there are going to appeal the case, trump people will appeal the case to try to get another court to say it's okay to take away the right that people have to vote and to take votes that have already been cast and not counted. you have to understand something, this is not a question of doing something theoretical here. these are votes about 110,000, 120,000 votes that have already been cast that they somehow want to not count. one judge has said this is not acceptable but hopefully winds its way through the court system, other judges will say the same thing. >> there's also this case in north carolina, it's a strange case where you had people marching to the polls. they did a black lives matter march and march to the polls. the attorney general of that state i think was on doing tv

earlier today saying that i think people allegedly maybe were prevented from voting by the pepper spraying that what police did might have also prevented people from having the right, let's say people said if i was going to vote that day, i didn't vote because pepper spray was flying, do they have some sort of legal recourse or is the recourse just to vote tomorrow? >> i think the best thing is to vote tomorrow, make sure your ballot is actually cast. you don't want to full around with trying to get into a legal case trying to prove somebody acted with criminal intent and all of those kinds of things. the thing that we can control, that every individual can control, making sure forget about the mail. this is not about the mail anymore. this is showing up in person and casting a vote. >> let me let you listen to donald trump. this is something he keeps on saying that we know isn't true but since you've got expertise, i want to give you a chance to explain it.

he says something about casting ballots and this is after the election. here it is. >> i think it's a terrible thing when ballots can be collected after an election. i think it's a theshl thing when people -- when states are allowed to tabulate ballots for a long period of time after the election is over. >> can you just explain to our viewers, there is no after the election because if ballots haven't been counted, we're not after the election. >> right. and he's saying, well, they shouldn't be counted after election day, well, does that mean he's telling our sons and daughters who are serving overseas in the military, and their votes will be coming in after election day, you're not going to count them? these are the people who put their lives on the line to defend this nation, is that what donald trump is trying to say? he's scared of the people who he says he wants to represent but here's the deal, it's not just donald trump. it's the republican party at large that has made a determination that they are

going to be a minority party that's going to try to have majority power by putting in place what i have come to call almost a political apartheid system. they're going to try to use the system, abuse the system to keep people away from the polls and then make sure that they don't count the votes that are there. this is anti-democratic, it's anti-american and needs to be called out as such. >> you are not bad essentially calling that out. you talked about what it sort of might look like if we have four more years of this. what is your biggest fear if donald trump gets another four years? >> we don't have enough time in this segment, joy. i worry about the interaction of the united states with its allies overseas, how are we going to look to those adversarial nations? what will a justice department look like under donald trump? what will happen with regard to the climate, epa? there are a whole range of things that are on the ballot tomorrow. people need to understand, this isn't just about donald trump the individual, this is also about an administration that have done things inconsistent

not only with our values but that will harm the nation over the long term. >> you served as attorney general. do you think donald trump -- he's now said to be according to "the new york times" worried he might face prosecution. do you think he did anything to be prosecuted for, and do you think he should face prosecution? >> he's got to be nervous. in the michael cone case, he's individual number one. at this point we know he's at best indicted unnamed but we know who it is, co-conspirator of michael cohen. at least with regard to that one matter, that has to be resolved. does the next attorney general, u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york, are they actually going to bring that case? so he's got to be nervous about that. you have the new york state attorney general looking into matters. you've got the manhattan d.a. looking into matters. yeah, i understand his anxiety and why he is concerned about what his future's going to look like. >> i have to play one fun soundbite. this is your good friend, former president of the united states, doing a little something-something.

here it is. >> whoa! >> walk-off! >> that's what i do! that's what i do! >> is the bu ensy you're seeing at the close of the biden campaign show you they feel confident they will win? >> i am not sure they feel confident but they feel confident in their effort that they've done all that they can. i think the polls are all good. when trump says he's concerned about the election being stolen, that's inconsistent with all of the impure cal evidence that has shown if there's going to be theft that occurs, it will be done by donald trump and his allies. so i think we're all feeling good but we're not feeling overconfident and we have to have a good turnout tomorrow. >> everybody vote, everybody vote. eric holder, thank you very much. we appreciate you being here. thank you for your time. >> thank you. and up next -- the october surprise that came as no surprise with anyone familiar

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in 2016, the election was upended when at the last minute, the fbi reopened its investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private email server. this year, the real october surprise has been trump's utter surrender to the pandemic. that has caused more than 232,000 -- cost 232,000 american lives. cases are higher than they have ever been. and nearly every state is currently seeing increases. dr. anthony fauci says the country could not possibly be positioned more poorly heading into the winter. and yet, this is the message donald trump has been sending his voters. >> you know, our doctors get more money if somebody dies from covid. you know that, right? [ chanting fire fauci ] >> don't tell anybody, but let me wait until a little after the

election. >> i'm joined by michael steele, former rnc chairman and senior adviser to the lincoln project, james carville, cohost of the politics war room podcast, and mumaria teresa kumar. i can't think of a worst closing argument than fire fauci. who is the only person anywhere near the administration that people trust on covid. but just give me your assessment of the closing round of the trump argument. >> so joy, i'm not surprised by the closing argument because when you have not made a case to the american people for your re-election, what else do you say? when you have not talked about the economy in any shape or form, either how good it was before, what you tried to do to recover it from covid-19, or what you will do in the future, since that's your mainstay as the businessman, what else do

you have to say? there is nothing left to say except goad the crowd into chants of fire fauci, goud the crowd into getting in their cars and creating these hazardous caravans across the country. there is no closing argument here. the american people by the tune of 93 million have spoken. i agree with my buddy james carville. tomorrow, you know, could be a pretty damn good day. because the american people have had enough. and they're just a teeny bit tired of crazy. >> you know -- >> and they're tired enough to move beyond what we're doing right now. >> you know, jim carville, you coined the term, it's the economy stupid, it feels like it's covid stupid. people are dying and that seems to be the thing people want to vote about. and trump is mocking it. well, assess that if you would like, and also, assess the closing argument by joe biden, how you think he is closing his campaign. >> the simple matter of truth is trump is an idiot.

he's at 43% approval. dr. fauci is at a 70% approval. the guy at 43 attacks the guy at 70. and we're supposed to think he's some kind of a political genius? he's an idiot. and it's just plain and simple. i used the word advisedly. politically, i don't know what his iq is, but politically, he has no iq. i mean, today, i did andrea mitchell's show, and trump is talking about the polls and he wanted to fire some pollster at fox news and vice president biden was talking about the pandemic that we have. i mean, what do you think people are really concerned about right now? you know, getting sick or some pollster at fox news? i mean, it's so bizarre and idiotic, it really defies commentary. usually, you try to think of something clever to say. the man is just, he's just a blooming idiot. i mean, he really is.

ugly makes no sense, no strategy, no nothing here, just sheer stupidity, is really is. >> maria teresa, and yet, there are some sort of weird blips in the data. and one of them is that trump seems to be doing surprisingly slightly better, not a lot better, but slightly better with both latino voters and some black male voters. i think that's a bit overrated, but on the latino voters, he isn't cratering, which i think surprises a lot of people. >> so i actually think that what his strategy is trying to basically take back the election by red mirage. he's encouraging people to not vote until tomorrow so that there could be this swell of republicans. and that will include some male latino voters and that will include some male african-american voters. i think a lot has to do with how long you have been in this country. interestingly enough, though, joy, we at voter latino have targeted 3.7 million low

propensity voters, people who sat it out in the last election, and they're showing up. when you look at who is out voting and out performing in florida and texas and north carolina, and arizona, it's the young voter. that young voter is not aligned with president trump. when the president says we need to round the corner, the only way rhee round the corner is to insure he doesn't have a second term in office. the fact we have 93,000 people dead, we have 9 -- i'm sorry, over 230,000 people dead, 9.7 million of us who have had the coronavirus. this is outrageous, and all he knows is to divide us, all he knows is how to create scare tactics, and unless we're very clear on what the stakes are, the people that are voting right now, the 93 million strong that michael steele was referring to, they're individuals that are exposing and going and voting despite the pandemic, because they're sick and tired of putting their own lives on the line, and the stakes could not be hiring. >> we're going to show some of the real clear politics averages

and throw those up. i want you to go through one at a time and tell us what state you think will be the most interesting tomorrow night and who do you think will control the senate after this election. michael steele, i'll start with you. >> georgia, democrats. >> okay. james carville. >> texas, democrat. >> okay. texas meaning you think biden will win texas? >> the most interesting state. i think he's going to win georgia pretty good. i think georgia -- i will count georgia as almost leans blue. i think texas, the vote total, and by the way, the young latino vote in texas is going to surprise people. >> okay. >> first-time latino voters in texas are going to surprise people. >> i'm going to split the baby between both of the folks, james and michael. one of the two of the states that's going to turn blue is either going to be georgia or texas. for the progressive movement,

you want it to be texas only because we're talking about the redistricting that will take place in that state house and the ushering of the progressive movement forward. but james is right. the amount of young latinos that have already outpaced individuals and the amount of asian americans in texas have outpaced the performance is huge. i think we're going to see a democratic senate and the two states to watch that i find interesting are georgia and texas. who will go first? i'm betting on texas. >> very quickly, michael steele, is texas the new california? should republicans be worried about losing it? >> i have been saying for 20 years that texas has always been our bright blue wall staring us right in the face that we just ignored. texas, i thought, would fall in 2004. it could potentially fall tomorrow to some degree. >> what an incredible year. mike steel, james carville,

mumerea teresa kumar. thank you. >> thank you to all of my voting mvps who sent us pictures. your commitment and determination have given us so much life. i'll be back here tomorrow nights for election coverage with rachel and nicolle. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight, on a special election eve edition of "all in," 97 million americans have voted early. the rest are going to vote are going to do it tomorrow. tonight, the final rallies as trump's pandemic offensive continues. joe biden tries to restore the blue wall in the state of pennsylvania. we're going to go live to stacey abrams in georgia, to ohio and senator sherrod brown, to pennsylvania, with john fetterman, and to texas with beto o'rourke, and "all in" starts right now. >> good evening from