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hi there, welcome to continuing special election coverage here on msnbc. at this moment, we are still waiting for results from four key battleground states. those states could tip the scale in this election. so let's check in and find out where things stand this morning. there's actually a total of six states we're waiting on and joe biden is ahead in all four abandons. with the lead growing in
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pennsylvania and georgia overnight, and now in the state of arizona. in pennsylvania, the race is still too close to call but biden leads by nearly 29,000 votes. the state is continuing to count mail-in provisionals ballots as we speak but there is no answer when we will get the results. in georgia, where the secretary of state says a recount is likely, joe biden has expanded his lead to 7200 votes. and in nevada, the race there, too close to call. and joe biden leads by more than 22,000 votes. that could change when we get a new batch of results later today. and then in arizona, biden leads by nearly 30,000 votes. i want to bring in msnbc's richard l. , lui at the big board. >> to start where we're at 7:00 a.m. on a saturday, going into the fifth day, we have roughly, in terms of outstanding votes, that are yet to be counted,
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about 12.2 million, and that's a large number, about 8%, but many of them are in the states that we've already projected at nbc news. just look at the four states that you just mentioned that we're really keeping an eye on. nevada, arizona, georgia, and pennsylvania, and we're really only looking at about 500,000 votes. much smaller number here. but those states are very key, very close as well. and the reason why i want to drill down now, one of those is nevada, because for biden, three of his paths to victory, he has nine, go through nevada, for donald trump, two of his paths go through nevada, as well. so let's dig in really quickly here, and in terms of what we'll be watching here today, the we heard from the secretary of state's office, stephanie, last night, we know that there's about, according to what they're saying, 125,000 votes left to be counted. 90% there sits in this county.
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clark county. las vegas. and the reporting this morning. 90% now. now, what is not good for donald trump, first of all, if you are looking at clark county, you can see where it's been trending, and then overall, for the state, you're down by 22,000 or more. so if we go back to, here, to clark county, and we drill down, very quickly, you can see that the remaining vote in the state is also there, just represented by the yellow bubble, and the size of the lead, you can see blue, blue, blue. and donald trump needs 59%, of the vote, going forward, and it's not been that way so far, for him, stephanie. >> is there a certain number, is there a percentage that triggers these states to be called? >> i don't think there's a specific number, i mean what our decision desk is trying to do is ascertain whether or not any of this outstanding vote can massively trend towards donald trump. as richard was suggesting.
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and clark there, he would need 59% of the remaining vote, to, you know, come within biden's margin at this point, and that hasn't been the case thus far, the decision desks know how to do the projections and based on the republican and democratic makeup of a county or certain batch of votes, you can do that type of extrapolation. it's basically over. it's very hard to see how donald trump catches up in any of these places, which is why his team has been talking about legal strategies and trying to challenge some of the ways that these, you know, counts have been down, or the segregating out votes that came in after election day, in the case of pennsylvania, but even then, there's not a whole lot of enthusiasm for any of this, as you've seen. i mean back in 2000, i'm a grizzled veteran of the 2000 election and the vote in florida which was separated by only 537 votes, you saw the calvary come
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in on the democratic and republican side, the biggest name, the biggest influencers of both party going down there to try to defend each candidate's position. you're just not seeing that this time. you're seeing donald trump and his team basically being the ones to say we need to continue this, and you don't see the overall republican party egging him on or moving him on and saying let's count the votes and that's what they're doing in all of states and they're doing so with all of the rules appertaining and it's doing what it's doing and voters are being heard. >> what about a recount? when and where does that help? is that at the request of the campaign or simply if the results are so narrow? >> different states have different rules. georgia has an automatic recount, and we did mention how there's a 7,000 vote gap there, which is very, very narrow, but honestly, we may get to the point where these other states will have been called even
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before georgia needs to decide about a recount so it may not be a factor. of course, in florida, that's what was going on in 2000. it was all a recount, which was why it was getting challenged so heavily. we're seeing regular counts in awful states and joe biden is clearly ahead in all of these places without a real path for donald trump to catch up so there may not be a real reason to have a recount to settle any of this because biden is clearly ahead. >> beth rich, do not go too far as these numbers come in, we will check back in. i want it thank you at home, and to the states, where we are vorpers, and lawyer -- reporters, and laura barrett is in pennsylvania. >> i wish with every fiber of my being chi give you a time line of when we will see new results here in pennsylvania, but unfortunately, we don't have that. philadelphia and allegheny counties are the big ones we're waiting for. statewide, about 89,000 mail-in ballots still to be counted
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about. 20,000 of those in philadelphia. and about 20,000 here i am in allegheny county. and in pittsburgh. and basically, what we've seen, any time philadelphia has given guidance, it has been a little hazy on when we will get the results. so they've been dropping in more sporadically and hopefully we'll get more today. we do expect to see some results from allegheny today as well. they start back up at their warehouse, at 9:00 a.m., today. and so we hopefully will be able to see how those processes turn quickly, as we've seen here, over the last several days, as we've been watching them do all of that, and of course, elections are still telling us that these workers obviously are working like crazy, because there's a massive amount of pressure here in pennsylvania, obviously, as these specific counties are ones that the joe biden campaign are really hoping could put him over the edge and secure this margin ahead of donald trump, without any question. and they had the secretary of state, has said, that despite all of those legal battles that you heard beth talking about,
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they do not anticipate the vote stopping being counted. and so it is really important to note that as we're waiting for all of this, there has been no evidence of election trust, and the counting takes time and we will continue to talk to the governor and they have advice to be patient and take a deep breath and hopefully getting results from pennsylvania at some point today, and the other thing that we are looking at, though, that's important to note is, this idea of provisional ballots. there are about 100,000 provisional ballots, and there might be more in pennsylvania, that will be counted as the rest of the mail-ins are finished up. so once the mail-ins are wrapped up, we're not quite done yet. stephanie? >> thank you. let's go to jake ward in las vegas. jake, when are we getting more numbers there? >> we're waiting here, for the ballot counting operation to start up again in a few hours. we should know by about noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. local, what the latest data dump has to say
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about, as you heard, richard lui say there, the 125,000 ballots still left to count, 90,000 of which are expected to be from this county, from spark county, and we should get big news in a few hours here. and in the meantime, we're seeing a lot of protester activity over the last three nights, there have been a gathering, a growing number of protesters, outside of the election facility, and let me just play you a little bit of sound, so you get a flavor for the kind of complaints we hear on the ground. >> the whole point of all of this is i can't understand how they have not been able to tell us who won, when we've all voted, and why all of a sudden, they're coming out with all of these newballs out of the blue. >> -- new ballots out of the blue. >> now, stephanie, i mean you sort of, you know, you've been tracking this closely, you know, the disinformation that we've been following online, and it
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just creates this sort of atmosphere of skepticism, that isn't specific or tied to any specific piece of evidence, a broad sense of why should it take as long as it is, and as laura was making a good point, there it just takes time. there has been no evidence of election fraud. there has been mishaps here and. there small clerical errors which is expected with this massive change in how we've had to vote during a pandemic and no real change there and you still keep hearing the schedule skepticism on the part of protesters here, an open carry state and the presence of firearms, it makes it a tense situation, and there is a big police presence here and everything should be counted so far by sunday and the reaction to that point is nice and calm and people can see that, you know, even though they may not understand it fully, that this system really does seem to be working, it is working the way it should, if a little bit slowly, stephanie. >> you know what we have to do?
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we have to keep reporting the facts. i want to turn now to atlanta, georgia. so much focus on the state, katie. help us to understand what's happening with the military ballots that we keep hearing about. >> so out of all of the states that we've been following closely, and tracking today, georgia has by far the least amount of votes left still to count. and we were told yesterday, that there's military ballots that could be anywhere from zero to 8400. and that's the amount that is eligible, that has been sent out and not yet returned and due in by 5:30 yesterday. and there is no meaningful counting on a statewide level of how many have come in. that is tracked really by the county. what we do know is there is 14,000 provisional ballots yesterday at 5:30 and overnight, we have 5,000 votes come in from fulton county, and other counties here and there as well. so we estimate that this vote count is getting into the 10,000 range at this point.
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including those military ballots. including those provisional ballots. so georgia is really down to the last of it, at this point. and that does not mean that we are definitely going to have an answer today or tomorrow. some counties are resuming counting this morning, and some are waiting for monday or tuesday to certify their vote. but either way, we should have today, a pretty good idea of where georgia stands and as i said, they are getting down to those, the last votes here, in the state. >> katie, thank you for sparing us "georgia on my mind" this morning. >> thank you. >> we will check back in with you in just a few. i want to take you now to phoenix, arizona. morgan chesky is there. and we have seen this race narrowing. and any update from maricopa county? that's where it's all happening. >> 9:00 local time saturday morning, that's when the new batch of ballots, about 70,000 will be released. that's the same number that was
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released friday evening. whenever that latest batch was released, president trump actually gained a little bit of ground on the gap that joe bide-built her, and narrowing that gap to 29,000 votes, 800, around there, and so the number that the trump campaign is hoping they could hit, if they have any hope of salvaging maricopa county and in turn arizona, will be garnering about 60% of this batch of votes that will be released here, in just a few hours. of course, hundreds of people have been gathering outside this election department now for several days, depending accountability, and transparency, despite the fact that there are observers inside, from every political party. i had a chance to go in and take look for myself. one interesting point here, if someone put an x on instead of filling in the circle, the machine kicks it out and it goes to two people who are called bipartisan adjudicators, a republican, a democrat, they're at a table, they look at the section of the ballot that has
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an issue with it, and then they come up with a joint decision on whether or not that ballot will be accepted or not. so there are bipartisan measures built in to multiple steps of the process here. at this point, we know that maricopa county of course, the largest county in arizona, if joe biden can hold on to the lead that he's already built here in this state, it can definitely bode well, if you win maricopa county, you would essentially win the state here and we will have a very good peak of that in the next few hours with the latest batch of ballots. >> 9:00 a.m. local time, arizona, you better believe, msnbc will be right there, with morgan, thank you all. we will be back in a few. looking at the breaking news rumors over night from the white house, chief of staff mark meadows tested positive for covid-19 and a trump campaign aide tested positive, and that brings the total number of cases
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in president trump's inner circle, including himself, to 35. this comes as the united states logs a third straight day of more than 100,000 new cases. this, while president trump continues to say we're rounding the corner, this thing is pretty much behind us, and joe biden, a very different message, last night he addressed the nation, saying we try to control the pandemic if he wins the presidency. >> we want everyone, everyone to know, on day one, we're going to put our plan to control this virus into action. we can't save any of the lives lost, any of those who have been lost but we can save a lot of lives in the months ahead. >> he said he's going to try to control the pandemic by contrast, two weeks ago, mark meadows said we're never going to control, this and now he has it. i want to go back to nbc's ali vitali outside biden
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headquarters in wilmington, delaware, and josh is tracking the trump campaign. ali, we have been caught up in the election for the last two days but we cannot forget that the pandemic broke several records this week, and the last three days, over a thousand people died, and every one of those, i'm sure the families are thinking about the pandemic. are we getting more from biden today? >> it is unclear whether we will hear from biden today at all. i would say if we go by since the last few days since election night, we have seen the former vice president in some form or fashion speaking and giving remarks, generally focusing on the fact that he thinks when the votes are counted, he will be the the next president of the united states and i'm emphasizing will, because they're speaking in the future tense, and they're letting biden come just i should saying he has won the election, because of course, we haven't called it yet. you still see the gray states on the map, but biden has done a
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pretty direct job of speaking to the pandemic, even though all of the election is still up in the air. even yesterday, highlighting the fact that he's been briefed by experts. he took the time earlier in the week to go and get a briefing both on the economy, and on the pandemic, from experts, showing that he's ready to hit the ground running on day one. it's not exactly surprising, because the way that he ran for president, especially over the course of the last few months, at the heat of the pandemic, was yes, making a referendum on president trump, but also focusing on the need to actually beat the virus, before you can start tackling any of the other offshoot problems that have come from it. specifically things like the economy and health care. so clearly, this is a big deal for him. it's something that i know you mentioned, we're all distracted by the election, but covid doesn't care, we're also wearing masks, shoe also be social distancing, and all of those things are critically important, and so for biden, he is both juggling, waiting to see if he is actually won this election outright, the way that his advisers believe that he already
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has, but also, trying to look ahead, to make sure that the moment that that happens, he's ready to begin the transition, and start putting a plan in place that he can start to get the coronavirus under control here. i will say, the thing they're waiting for is pennsylvania, of course, for a state that they feel really good about, we see the margins continuing to widen. yesterday evening though, senator chris coons said he spoke with pennsylvania senator bob casey who has been in touch with the biden team saying they didn't think they would get results last night. disappointing. they thought they might. but they think it could come today. all of us waiting here in wilmington as we have been the last few days. >> except, ali, we're all still not wearing masks. josh, this week, we saw several videos, several images of white house chief of staff mark meadows with the president in crowded place, no mask on. now that we know he has covid-19, and one campaign staffer, are we learning, are they changing protocols, are they quarantining?
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what's the plan? >> there he is right behind the president, two or three nights ago. mask-free. not six feet apart. >> no indication that the white house is changing their protocols at this point in time, stephanie, but all of the ingredients are essentially there for another outbreak. as you pointed out, mark meadows went maskless a few nights ago as hundreds of people gathered for the election night event. they then fanned out across the country to wherever they were from. in circumstances that are quite similar to the lone star event for justice amy coney barrett, that became a super spreader event of the main difference is that this event was actually indoors, which makes it even more dangerous. now the trump campaign is not commenting on meadow's diagnosis, but if past is prologue, stephanie, in the past, we've seen the white house officials say after potential exposures, that they don't have to follow the cdc guidelines that follow 14 day quarantines because they're deemed essential workers. >> essential workers. for those who don't want to wear
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masks, to say not wearing masks, it's stupid without masks. thank you so much. coming up next, the trump campaign is pushing for a legal fight, for the vote count. here's a question. who is advising the president? who is his legal team? who are the leaders of the gop backing this claim? could it actually change the outcome of the race? race? ♪ it's velveeta versus the other guys. clearly, nothing melts like velveeta. ♪ ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪
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the trump campaign says the battle for the white house is far from over. vowing to mount new legal battles to challenge what they are calling voting irregularities in key battleground states, where the vote count is still under way. here's a huge problem.
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the president and his team have not presented any evidence to support their accusations of fraud in the election. at the very same time, the "washington post" has new reporting that some of the president's advisers were urging the president to prepare for defeat. but maybe without making a concession state. we have the "washington post" representative and director of election law and a white house correspondent for perform bs -- p pbs news hour. phil, i want to start with the legal team, back in 2000, election lawyers were flanking bush and gore. who is on the president's side? >> and jim baker, former white house chief of staff got on a plane the day after the election to go down to florida to lead the legal response for george w.
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bush with an army of republican lawyers. this time around, there is no jim baker. we've seen rudy giuliani pop up in philadelphia. we've seen rick grinnel, the former acting director of national intelligence leading the charge in las vegas. it's a pretty scatter-shot and ham-handed approach, according to everything that we've seen so far. and it's caused some concern within the white house. within the republican party. that there hasn't been a more comprehensive legal strategy. the president, remember, has been signaling for months now that this was going to be his strategy, that he was going to try to contest the election, he was going to send lawyers into court and yet the election happens and there is really not a game plan. >> why is that? even the president himself back in 2016, he had don mcgahn, three weeks ago when he was preparing for the debates, he had chris christie and now rudy giuliani? >> the first thing is, the president is really using a grab
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bag of accusations in different states, and elected officials have been very, very clear that they think that this is not what is happening, there is no voter fraud, they're saying they see some irregularities, some things that are glare c-- clerical isse but nothing that would suggest that democrats are massively trying to steal the election and trying to get a reputable lawyer to argue things that are already getting thrown out because you don't have any evidence to back it up, david bossy is someone they're tasking with overseeing all of this but he is not someone who is a lawyer per se, he is someone who is the head of a conservative advocacy group, citizens united, the deputy campaign manager in 2016, and he is someone who is going to bring a lot of this together but a lot of this is, you're seeing, you're seeing cases get thrown out in georgia, in pennsylvania, and in michigan, because judges are looking at this and saying where is the evidence?
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where is the proof? the trump campaign won't answer that question. when reporters ask, the president wouldn't answer that question, and he was dashing out and he had his quick speech, and now of course, we're not seeing lawyers answer it in court. >> that's what i don't get. ned, wouldn't this be the super bowl for preeminent election lawyers? instead, you've got, you know, this ragtag group, with a grab bag of accusations. even chris christie, who is not standing with the president, said if there is evidence, we need to see it. and if there isn't, the president has to stop indicting the system. what do you say? >> i think that's right. you can't go to court if you don't like the vote totals coming, in you have to have a legal claim and evidence to back it up and it's not there. back in florida, in 2000, back then there were the hanging chads to fight about. but so far, nothing has emerged that you could fight about in that same way.
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>> phil, your paper, the "washington post," says the president's advisers, some of them are urging him to prepare for defeat. a, can you tell us which camp of advisers is standing with him in this fight? and who's saying, buddy, time to let this thing go? >> well, the people girding for a fight here are really family members. and those who are the closest to trump, but the more sort of clear-headed sober-minded advisers around the president recognize what the numbers are showing. which is that the president has a very unlikely path to 270 electoral votes. and that he needs to start acknowledging the reality of the situation. and they're trying to prepare him for a peaceful transition of power. there's a recognition inside the white house, according to my colleagues reporting, that the president is never going to concede. he doesn't have it in him to give a concession speech. he will never declare himself the loser of this race.
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but they're hopeful that he will agree to some sort of a transition of power, which is of course, the norm, in our country, but we should underscore just how not normal that is, when candidates for office in america, in the united states, lose elections, they can see that it's an important part of the process, they acknowledge their defeat, and they acknowledge the democratic outcome, it's what john mccain did, in 2008 but it's also what al gore did in that nail biter of an election in 2000 that was decided by the supreme court. his concession state helped bring the country together but we play not see that from president trump. >> breaking the norms would be completely different, why change now. and by doing it, just making it clear, so people who had jobs, or significance or influence before the president was in office are urging him to accept defeat. ned, out of all of these
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lawsuits, do you so see any legal basis? >> not to change the outcome of the election. >> the one in philadelphia, or pennsylvania, the one to follow it, but i don't think the numbers are there to change the results. and i don't think the supreme court is only going to validate the ballots even if there is some underlying legal theory that you could pursue, so it doesn't seem like it is going to be a winning strategy to try to win this in court. >> the president and definitely his son, don jr., we've heard from, are pretty angry that more members of the republican party aren't speaking out and taking his side. >> that's right. because the people who are really, as phil said, trying to hold on, trying to really fight for this, are the president's closest members of his family, so you had don jr. tweeting that the president needs to go to war, those were words that made some people nervous, including people who want to see the president re-elected because we
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are seeing people show up to voting centers, really trying to intimidate vote counters in some cases, and so there's a real sense here that things are volatile but you're seeing the jostling for 2024 and it is so early to talk about that you're saying republicans call out other republicans, what you are doing, so you saw calling out nikki haley, being the former u.n. ambassador, and matthew hayes, being a congressman, who was pretty aligned with the president, nicky haley was essentially saying, president trump did a really great job, and we should be excited about. that and matthew accused her of writing an obituary tweet. and we're back in hollywood days of 2016, when president trump was taking names and figure out who was standing with him in a moment of rein real critical sc and crisis and now we're back there with the pandemic, and the president trying to ruffle his
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way back, gaining some states that have already been called. >> always great to see you all. probably have you back at some point later today, because i'm pretty sure we're going to get more numbers. thank you all. coming up next, you should not go anywhere. we're expecting new votes to come in any minute. i knew about the tremors. but when i started seeing things, i didn't know what was happening... so i kept it in. he started believing things that weren't true. i knew something was wrong... but i didn't say a word. during the course of their disease around 50% of people with parkinson's may experience hallucinations or delusions. but now, doctors are prescribing nuplazid. the only fda approved medicine... proven to significantly reduce hallucinations and delusions related to parkinson's. don't take nuplazid if you are allergic to its ingredients.
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back to the big board now. with where the race stands at this very second. richard lui is there also joining us, u.s. house editor, political report, nbc news contributor, i was going to say, killing this this week, david wasserman. richard, break down the numbers. >> as you were saying earlier, we expect to get some numbers out of pennsylvania, after around 9:00 a.m. eastern. we do, when we drill down on, it we expect it to be coming out of allegheny county at least, and allegheny county, as you know, has been the big focus of interest in pittsburgh, and that area, because it is a largely blue county, and so far, when we drill down, allegheny, they've got about 22,000 estimated remaining votes to come on in. and that could be more, it could be less, we are getting the reporting coming out, they're looking at provisionals as well, when will they bring that in,
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how will they bring that in, it is not only that we're looking at allegheny, of interest in pennsylvania, there of course is the philadelphia metro area, and we take a look at philadelphia county, and that's 27,000 votes there, and then all said, when you look at what might be possible, that we'll learn about, is this 270,000 estimated remaining votes that we might get some data in, at the top of 9:00 a.m. eastern, and as many of our viewers and you know very well, stephanie, pennsylvania, it is so important, because it is the single state left right now, that whoever wins it, becomes the next president of the united states. >> david, help us understand all of this. right now, the most important thing we need to know. >> well, look, i disagree that whoever wins pennsylvania necessarily becomes the next president of the united states, because joe biden has a path to getting to 270 electoral college votes, without that state. with nevada, and arizona. not to mention what we're
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looking at in georgia. so look, although pennsylvania is looking like the best of those outstanding for biden at the moment, although you have to put, you know, nevada and arizona somewhere in a similar category and georgia is simply very close, there are plenty of outstanding ballots still that we're carefully analyzing. >> you are the dean of the data, david. what stands out to you the most from what you've seen this week, whether it's the presidential race or what we've seen across congress? >> a couple of things. first of all, even though polls were clearly off, in a number of areas, they did do a reasonable job of shedding light on the changing contours of the electorate. and what i mean is we did see meaningful growth for joe biden in the suburbs. that showed up in suburban philadelphia. it showed up in the suburbs of detroit. and milwaukee. and in a big way. we didn't see very many
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defections from trump in white working class areas although there were important crossover votes for biden clearly in parts of pennsylvania, and particularly northeastern pennsylvania. but look, another big trend is that despite trump's attacks on democratic-run cities, those are some of the places where turnout was actually relatively flat since 2016 and where trump's vote share was marginally higher. for example, in the city of milwaukee, trump had won 18% of the vote in 2016, and he won 20% this time. and then down-ballot, the key take-away that trump on the top of the ballot may have been the best of both worlds for congressional republicans and what i mean by drawing out low propensity republican voters who would not have turned out to vote for a congressional republican in 2018, in the midterms, that helped down
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ballot. but at the same time, it freed a lot of independent voters to take out their anger at trump on the, at the top of the ticket, and still vote for a republican down ballot that they may have liked. that wasn't the case two years ago. so as a result, republicans really defied our expectations. >> all right. david, richard, thank you both so much. we're going to leave it there. and when we come back, we want to take to you georgia. you know what i'm not going to say? i'm not going to say all eyes on georgia, because i can't say that one more time. and we're going to take you there, find out where we are on the vote count and talk about the senate seats because both are headed for what is going to be a very, very expensive runoff. water?
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continuing, a recount in georgia is looking likely because things are so tight. to break this down, i want to bring in greg bluestein. you know the state better than anyone. tell us about stacey abrams. she devoted herself to getting people registered to vote. how much of an impact did that have. >> it helped change the electorate here in georgia. there is about 1 million new voters added to the registry since 2016 and her group registered hundreds of thousands of voters. but the other thing she did is in 2018 she showed that a democrat could compete in georgia without trying to be a moderate. before 2018 democrats ran as company lights, as nra democrats and focused on health care and other issues but they didn't embrace left-leaning aggressive ideas and she did and she showed
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she could come within 55,000 votes by doing that. >> let's talk about the senate seats. both are headed for a runoff. talk to us about how much money are we going to see in these races, because it is not just about the people of georgia this is about control of the senate? >> yeah, we've already seen more than $200 million spent in georgia on the two senate races that were voted on this past week. and i think that is just the ground floor for the next nine weeks in georgia. we have a nine-week runoff. january 5th we have two senate battles that decide the control of the u.s. senate. and we've already started to see the early spending money, and we've seen an anti-abortion group that is going to spend $4 million, and that is just the start. we're going to see a torrent of money. republicans have the advantage. they've won every runoff since
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1992 but with control of the senate at stake all bets are off. >> well, i could tell you, david perdue is already on the horn this week calling big wall street donors saying this thing is going to cost him $500 million to win and you know what, they want to make sure the government stays divided, he's likely going to get it. do republicans need to retain both seats to maintain control. >> it doesn't happen in many states any more, it is not happening in georgia, we saw president trump's numbers in georgia mirroring david perdue's. there is a slight difference between jon ossoff and joe biden. the jon ossoff campaign is not worried about that, with a polarizing intense runoff push. and historically the problem for democrats has been low turnout for runoff. there is going to be lighter turnout than tuesday but i still
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think it is going to be record and there is so much attention focused on georgia the next nine weeks. >> how about new voters, how much is there a push, a., to register new voters and how many people are turning 18 in the next six weeks? >> there are tens of thousands who could be added to the polls, added to the register. so that is a whole new trove of the voters that both parties are aiming to get but the main focus is getting back the people who voted on tuesday. because i think both parties feel like they could get the exact number of voters that showed up tuesday, which is a huge task, right, without a presidential election on the ballot. but if they could get back the same number of voters they had on tuesday, they'll win. >> well we will see. a lot of votes to count, a lot happening. thank you so much. and for you, i did not want you at home to go anywhere. you know why? i know we've been saying this for days. because we could be getting
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results any minute now across four different battleground states. the vice president biden on the brink of winning this presidency. but that does it for me this morning. right after that i'm watching msnbc for the rest of the day. i'm stephanie ruhle. coming up next, a special edition, they're all here, the morning joe team is with you from 8:00 to 10:00 and i have a feeling they're going to have a lot of new numbers for you. stick around. ♪ limu emu & doug you know limu, after all these years it's the ones that got away that haunt me the most. [ squawks ] 'cause you're not like everybody else. that's why liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. what? oh, i said... uh, this is my floor.
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