good sunday morning, everybody. thank you for getting up with us or staying up with us, whichever it is. i'm yasmin vossoughian here in new york. >> i'm geoff ben nnett in wilmington. 5:00 a.m. on the east coast, 2:00 a.m. out west. america is waking up knowing the outcome of the 2020 election. ♪ president-elect joe biden's victory capping one of the longest and most tumultuous campaigns in modern history.

overnight, biden offered a message of unity and promised to have the backs of all americans. >> our work is hard. for those who didn't vote for me as those who did, let this grim era of demonization in america begin to end here and now. [ cheers ] refusal of democrats and republicans to cooperate with one another, it's not some mysterious force beyond their control, it's a decision. a choice we make. and it we can decide not to cooperate, then we can decide to cooperate. >> his running mate, senator kamala harris, making history as america's first female, first black, and first south asian

vice president-elect. celebrations erupting coast coast. cheering the democratic ticket's victory. president trump says the fight is still on from his speck. he's threatening further legal action on ballot counting. >> reporter: this thundershower we're still watching vote tallies closely in arizona, georgia, and north carolina, where the races remain too close to call. it was pennsylvania's 20 electoral vote that put biden over the 270 threshold needed to warship the white house. by nbc's count, biden has 279 electoral votes. donald trump, as you see there, has 214. >> our team of reporters and analysts are with us this morning covering all angles of this historic moment and what is next. want to go to geoff on this one. it was quite a celebration last night in wilmington, delaware. talk us through what you saw on the ground there, geoff. >> it was a huge night last night even though workers with still starting to dismantle the

stage behind me. people took a lot of pride in kamala harris' elevation to the vice presidency and all that that represents. i think there was also a palpable sense of relief that this era of demonization, as joe biden put it, this era of chaos at least for the interim seems to be over. joe biden stepping in, urging calm, pushing for unity. i want to bring in right now nbc's deepa chivram. you have been on the road with kamala harris for the better part of two years covering this campaign as an nbc embed. congratulations on a job well done. >> thank you. >> when you saw all that transpired last night, given your perspective having been there for all of it for the last, you know, year and a half, two years of this campaign, what struck you? what -- what impact does that have on you? >> absolutely, geoff. it was -- it was a culmination of, again, like you said, the past two years, the past 1.5 years to have seen kamala harris launch her career in oakland, california, to go through the

primary. and you know, the up and down that was her campaign. it was not a straight shot as she tried to vie for the presidency. in december of 2019 she ended up dropping out of the race. to go from that to the whole veepstakes proce-- veep stakes process. the second black woman senator in the united states. now the first black woman vice presidential elect, south asian white hbcu grad. she's making history and breaking barriers on so many fronts. last night she began her speech thanking several groups of people. she mentioned john lewis, poll workers and election workers doing the wok of democracy the past week as we've been waiting for results. she also talked about her mom, geoff. take a listen. >> my mother who is always in our hearts -- [ cheers ] when she came here from india at the age of 19, she maybe didn't

quite imagine this moment. but she believed so deeply in an america where a moment like this is possible. so i'm thinking about her, and about the generations of women, black women -- [ cheers ] asian, white, latina, native american women -- [ cheers ] who throughout our nation's history had paved the way for this moment tonight. >> you know what struck me about that was the level of specificity. you know, yes, it's a moment for women, it's a particular moment for black women given that it was black women that rescued joe biden's campaign time and time again. it wasn't just out of south carolina. it was also black women who delivered him the presidency. >> right. >> she spoke about that and spoke about ambition, a word that has a lot of resonance when

you talk about the first woman to reach this height. >> right. there's two parts of that i think. and yes, as soon as that byte ended she went on to specifically mention black women who often are thankless in the democratic party. she said that they're the backbone. it reminded me of something she said in december. it was her last debate in atlanta. i think it was nbc's debate actually. and she talked about how you can't just thank black women. you have to elect them. >> right. >> you have to give them those positions of power, give them those opportunities. i think you saw joe biden on stage thanking the african-american community. thanking the black community for putting him there. so there's a lot of parallels here, but no, she specifically mentioned black women. of course, this is a moment, all the perspective that's she brings, all the history this she brings will come to the white house with her. >> great to see you. thank you. thank you so much. president trump is insisting the election is far from over, vowing to fight the results. it's not exactly clear what he can do. nbc's josh letterman is in washington. josh, what's the latest?

>> reporter: well, the president vowing to move forward with his legal fights on the outcome of this election, geoff. his campaign filing a new suit in arizona as his re-election campaign starts to solicit money from supporters for what they're calling an election defense fund. the president continuing to tweet overnight about the votes that he won and also to falsely claim that he won the election. but geoff, as the president moves ahead with his belief that he won the election, the world starting to move on with foreign leaders continuing to congratulate the president overnight, even major u.s. corporations recognizing the results of the election that we all had on tuesday. but geoff, the president being aided in his push by -- i think we have to say it -- by the near silence from republican elected officials who have not yet acknowledged the outcome of this election as we would have seen after any other election where you have a clear projection from

all of the major news organizations. so they're kind of doing this dance where with the exception of i think kevin mccarthy, the republican leader in the house who is claiming falsely that the president won this, other republican elected officials not wanting to go that far. they're not saying that president trump won. instead, they're kind of saying, well, you know, we should wait until all the votes are counted. and until votes are certified. that's been the comments from mitch mcconnell. as the president is moving ahead with this, i have to say the white house is dealing with a brand-new covid outbreak among its ranks with five people in the administration and the campaign including the president's chief of staff and now positive for covid-19. that all adding to the pressure as the president tries to figure out how he's going to move forward with this. >> yeah. to your point, by our count there are more than 35 people connected to the white house,

president trump's close orbit, who have at one point have contracted the coronavirus which is staggering. nbc's josh letterman live in washington. josh, thanks for that. new today, nbc news is learning president-elect biden plans to sign executive orders during his first days in office to roll back some of president trump's actions including plans to rejoin the paris climate accords and the world health organization, as well. with that i want to bring in professor of education at johns hopkins university and susan dell persio, senior adviser to the lincoln project. i appreciate you joining us. wendy, i'm going to start with you. as we were hearing from josh's reporting on all of this, you know, there is this question if the president will follow some of these ceremonial norms, right. will he, in fact, concede, will he meet with joe biden, will he even be at the inauguration on january 20th? not having a lot of answers to those. what do you make of what's happening at the white house right now? >> i think what's happening at the white house is really

reflective of this past four years of donald trump's presidency. he has broken the ranks of what we think is customary for the highest office of the land. whether it's not being able to reach out and concede, pandering conspiracy theories through his twitter, these are par for the course for donald trump and his administration. what we do know is the american people have spoken. while we still have different processes left in place, there has to be a level of leadership from president trump to say, yes, you are an elected official, and you can either win or you can lose. and he has to start acting like a mature adult. this is going to continue to divide the american people. >> susan, this is, as wendy was talking about, this is still a very deeply divided nation, right. if you look at the vote split, donald trump did get 70 million

votes in his favor. a lot of democrats, as well. i spoke to democrats in pennsylvania the last weeks, folks who voted for trump in 2016, and they voted for him in 2020 walnuonce again. they told me if they could they would have voted for him twice. they were that enamored by him, that supportive of him. joe biden has a lot ahead of him. he's got a lot on his plate. how do you expect him to be able to bring this country together when it is so deeply divided -- not only across this country but in washington, as well. >> yeah. joe biden certainly has his work cut out for him. but i think he is up to the challenge. and i think he wants to address it. the major -- there's so many differences between the president-elect and donald trump, but he's going -- the president-elect is going to go in there trying to work together to get something done. he believes in governance. he is going to attack the covid

crisis head on. so donald trump, he can claim all he wants, this is still going on, and i don't expect to wendy's point any level of maturity or leadership from this president because he hasn't shown any in the last four years. joe biden will work to get to have -- create bipartisanship. and i think actually mitch mcconnell may want to help him get there. let's not forget, mitch mcconnell has had his day in the sun. he's gotten the supreme court, conservative supreme court, conservative justices, federal justices. so this may be a time to actually bring the country together, especially with a national covid-19 response. >> so wendy, you know, i want to talk about systemic racism in this country because as i was on the streets yesterday and speaking to so many people, it's obviously still a huge issue

that americans want to see addressed, especially with this incoming administration. and you think about the people on the ticket, the president and the vice president-elect. and what they bring to the table. how do you expect them to move forward and address the issue of systemic racism after seeing millions of people, frankly, in the streets protesting over the summer day after day after day, after we saw the killing of george floyd? >> systemic racism is something that's alive and well in this country. i believe it with the election of joe biden and kamala harris we are going to start to address that head on. we saw kamala harris, she did not minutes any words. she -- mince any words. she said specifically the ways in which black women have supported the democratic party have been the backbone of this party. we saw when george floyd was murdered in the streets how joe biden came out and spoke against that. we need executive orders on day

one. and i believe this administration will do that. we are tired of black and brown people being criminalized in this country. the ways in which people are celebrating across our nation is not just because of the win of this ticket, it's also because of the hopefulness of what this ticket can do for communities of color, for the lgbtq-plus community. this ticket is not just a representation of the democratic parti, this ticket is a representation of our country, of the fabric of our country. so many times we'll have felt marginalized under the trump administration. i stand before you as a black woman, as an immigrant, as a mother of black boys, and every day for four years i felt a pain in my gut because of what the trump administration had the possibility to do to people who look like me. and on this day, on this sunday morning, we are cheering in the street, saying that maybe this democratic ticket can now humanize all of us regardless of

our race, our class, our gender, and our nationality. and kamala harris and joe biden have the opportunity to do just that. >> all right. wendy, thank you. susan del persio, good to see you, as well. >> great to see you. >> thank you. president trump is vowing to fight the election results in court. but could the lawsuits change anything? plus, international reaction pouring in after joe biden's win, including this german magazine cover showing biden putting lady liberty's head back in place.

now to battleground philadelphia where thousands crowded on to the streets one joe biden's victory was declared. mara bare srett is in philadelp. tell us what you saw on the streets last night.

>> reporter: good morning, geoff, i think you remember when the president said bad things happen in philadelphia. people here feeling the complete opposite yesterday as folks from the suburbs and new jersey even came downtown to center city to celebrate, confetti is still lining the streets today. and there's this renewed sense of optimism and relief as philadelphians never felt that donald trump represented them. this is a very diverse city that was rotattled by the deaths of breonna taylor, george floyd, jacob blake, and recently walter wallace in philadelphia, just last week. it was hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, criticizing donald trump's response. and it's one where people are facing a record high number of eviction. so there's, again, renewed sense of joy and optimism. take a listen to what some folks told us on the streets last night. >> we're excited it happened right now. really, really came through.

>> it's the election of our lifetime. impacts the future so much. it means so much that it's happening. we did it. we did it. >> it's a great feeling. i think you can see that from everyone. i don't think anyone expected it to hit this hard. so many people -- we're really happy. thank you. >> reporter: so if you're familiar with the mindset of a philadelphia sports fan, you know this city loves the come-from-behind underdog story. philadelphia really feels like they delivered a win for joe biden. now i'm interested to see as we look at the numbers how exactly pennsylvania ultimately plays out as votes continue to be counted. but geoff, it's interesting because i spent just a week before the election, i spent a day with hundreds of canvassers, union workers out of work and instead were spending their time canvassing, door knocking in black and brown areas where voters hadn't turned out in 2016. they made personal connections while they were door knocking and turned out these people when they went to the polls. i checked in with their

representation earlier. they confirmed 30,000 new voters that hadn't voted in 2016 for joe biden. so as we're looking at ultimately what joe biden, how he ultimately leads in this state, as everything is said and done, i think it's safe to say philadelphia really helped joe biden deliver a win here in pennsylvania and ultimately the presidency. geoff? >> look, 30,000 new voters in this election. staggering. one of the latest things you're following, the trump campaign trying to contest votes in pennsylvania. what's the state of play there quickly? >> reporter: president trump has said he's going to bring more lawsuits starting tomorrow. we'll be watching that for sure. right now the state of play is that any votes that have been counted simply can't be uncounted says election experts i've been speaking to. the latest effort by the trump campaign. they were looking for election officials to stop counting those

segmented ballots that we saw come in after election day. as long as they were sent by election day, any time between tuesday and friday at 5:00 p.m., pennsylvania law says they can be counted. so the trump campaign was looking for those counts to be stopped. the u.s. supreme court says that election officials can continue counting those ballots. and that is what they will continue to do. geoff? >> all right. nbc's mara barrett live in philadelphia. thanks for that. yasmin? so the trump compensation is vowing to fight the election results in court, as geoff and mara were talking about. so far the president has filed lawsuits in key battleground states where he claims without evidence that the voter fraud cost him the election. joining me is barrett burger, rehabilitator and former federal prosecutor. appreciate you joining us. you saw that graphic up on the screen, talking about some of the lawsuits that the president has already filed. let's talk about some of those states. pennsylvania, nevada, michigan,

georgia, arizona, as well there. it seemed as if the president, no matter what -- and some have been dismissed as you see on the other side of the screen. the president vowing on monday he's going to be filing more lawsuits, not wanting to concede knowing that vice president is the president-elect. what are the commonalities in some of the lawsuits that you've seen filed so far, and why have some already been dismissed here? >> yeah. so it's not surprising that the president has filed sort of this blitz of different lawsuits really across the country. this something that he vowed to do, you know, starting months ago. he said that this was going to be their strategy. and now we've seen it play out. so we've seen a few commonalities here. the first was this stop the vote idea. they wanted voting in areas that it seemed like the votes were getting tight, they wanted to stop the count. we have now seen courts routinely rejecting that, saying

you can't just swoop in and say stop the vote. votes will be tallied. if there is problems on the back end, courts can step in. the second commonality we're seeing here is that the trump campaign does appear to be on a fishing expedition. essentially their message has been stop the count so we can go check to see if there has been any fraud. and judges are very opposed to this idea of coming to the conclusion first and then trying to find evidence to back up that conclusion. and that's been one of the reasons we've seen a lot of these lawsuits dismissed in some of these jurisdictions is because they just didn't bring any proof. they had no actual evidence of voter fraud. and without that evidence, the courts are not going to let the suits proceed. >> so do any of them have any merit, and could any of them at this point, as of sunday morning, we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, but at this point actually change things?

>> so i'll answer the second question first which is no. even if one or two of these suits have merit, we are not talking about enough votes likely to change the overall election. so that's how this is different than in 2000. remember in 2000 we were dealing with a very small number, like 537 votes, in one specific jurisdiction. that's why that was so influential to the ultimate outcome of the case. here biden is just up by such a massive number of votes in these areas. over 50,000 votes now in pennsylvania, that even if one or two of these suits which involve small numbers were able to be successful, they would not ultimately impact the results of the election. >> also some of the criticisms that i'm hearing, especially as you compare it to 2000 is, in fact, in 2000 the lawyers in 2000 actually had a very clear picture of what they wanted to achieve and move forward.

there was just a 500-vote difference between al gore and george w. bush at the time. whereas here it seems like the trump team is shooting in the dark a little bit. thank you so much for joining us on this. very much appreciate it. >> my pleasure. and joe biden has been declared the president-elect even though several states still have yet to be called. richard lui is back at the big board with where those races stand.

the presidential race is too close to call in the state of georgia. but people still celebrated in atlanta when news broke of the election results. ballots are still being counted across the state. right now, joe biden leads donald trump by just over 10,000 votes. nbc's catie beck is in atlanta this morning. and catie, stacey abrams, former

gubernatorial candidate who probably would be governor now if it were not for voter suppression, is being credited with driving turnout across georgia. help us understand why that is. what she did. >> reporter: as these votes have trickled in, people more and more posting and talking about her being a hero to georgia and how she is really responsible for this change in momentum in the democratic party here. what they're saying is that basically abrams after her narrow loss, only 55,000 votes decided her election. after that loss, she committed herself to really changing this tide, putting infrastructure in place, exposing some of that voter suppression. and most importantly, working on voter registration in georgia. they credit her with registering 800,000 new voters in georgia. they say that is really the momentum and the force that changed the tide here. she was already sort of a local hero in atlanta, a lot of people familiar with that governor's

race and the work that went into it, felt that she did an amazing job. but then now that this has happened in the wake of that two years later, that loss, they are giving her enormous credit for where georgia stands now. it is too early to celebrate a biden victory statewide, as you said, up 10,000 votes, a very narrow margin. and there is still vote counting to be done. we know in gwinnett county, a really large suburb of atlanta, there's at least 500 military and absentee ballots and another nearly 1,000 provisional ballots that they're going to be sorting through today. we know there have some other outstanding votes in other counties, as well. so before these votes get certified we probably have a day or two and then another seven days it will take to do the recount before all of the votes are official and certified from the state of georgia. right now biden has been holding that lead, steadily gaining more as the votes have been trickling in. but certainly it is a very tight race, too close to call. it is why we aren't calling it.

still, that is not stopping people from seeing what has happened here. this is a state that has not elected a democrat to the white house in 30 years. so they are already feeling like their voices have been heard and a vote in georgia as a democrat is not wasted. >> great to see you as always, live in atlanta for us. yasmin? want to go back to msnbc's richard lui standing by at the big board. we're hearing catie obviously talk about georgia, which is going to be a recount mode and is still uncalled. we have two outstanding states, north carolina and arizona. so talk us through when we expect to get a decision on both of those states and honestly, what's taking so long. >> some of the theme attics behind it. let's go into georgia. let's drill down into the spaces that we're looking at. really as has been said by accura-- by catie, it's all counted.

a difference of 10,000. yesterday at this time it was a difference of 7,000, the day before, 4,000. there's not a lot left here. the only way they can avoid in this too close to call environment, the only way they can avoid a recount is if this number hits 25,000, roughly, more or less. and then that recount in georgia will not happen. so clearly the numbers that we're looking at are not large and spaced as you see in fulton, less than 500. she was talking about gwinnett, less than 500 there, as well. we look at the major population areas, less than 500. just about everything is in ---er with headed toward the recount the way it looks now has been said by catie. the other states not called yet because of situations like that where all the vote is in is north carolina. it's just because the state rules say you've got four more days. november 12th. they're using every single day. we look at some of the numbers coming into north carolina, the situation with north carolina is that -- at the moment there's

100,000 mail-in ballots as of yesterday. they may have had progress since then. we're looking at an estimated 135,000 left. about 100,000 mail-in votes that they were starting to count yesterday. still were available to be counted. that's north carolina, we still have four days until they have to get their count in. alaska, a very similar story. look, 56% in. it's a big state, right. you know that. so they're trying to pull in all those mail-in -- again, talking about over 100,000 mail-in votes. and the deadline for them is a little bit farther on, november 18th. so get out your calendar for that. and that's a lot of popcorn between now and then, if you're going to wait for alaska to be called. we're looking at the data. and finally, morgan chesky reporting for us, what we're watching here is how well trump can offset the difference. what we're seeing is that these late vote counts that we're getting in are leaning toward trump. they're actually leaning in a

proportion that is greater than what he needs at the moment. so there's still a story to be told in the 100,000 votes that are waiting to get in. we look at pima and as well maricopa. right now the president in these late vote counts that we are getting in -- i was looking at the last two that we got from arizona. he's in the mid to high 60s in terms of percentages of votes. so it's that story coming out of arizona still potentially has a couple of wrinkles in it. i wanted to bring up one last point because you brought it up in our last conversation which is what are the sorts of voters that we're seeing here. and if we were to look at just this little u here -- we'll call them like the new melting pots because there's a lot of new generations of immigrants coming in. and i was looking at the fact that you were on the streets yesterday in new york talking to so many different voters. and that sort of collection, right, of voters that came together to vote for this

ticket. with kamala harris both being african-american and asian american, she's bringing together a lot of different potentially new interests. i was looking at the asian american vote, and in these states that are open right now, we are looking at an api percentage that is clearly three, five, five, 10% more or less, and even in pennsylvania, 4%, where if they're activated -- we don't have the data yet -- that this asian american vice presidential president-elect now, not candidate, may have activated them -- we don't know. i thought i'd dig into that for you. >> it's interesting that you bring that up. it was on the streets of new york city yesterday talking to so many folks. it seemed really emotional. like a lot of americans had been emotional about the election. not only because of the historic nature of the vice president-elect, kamala harris, as the first asian american and black american woman to be elected to the office of vice president, but also because they

basically delivered this election to joe biden. >> that's right. >> and kamala harris. you could feel it in their motions. richard lu -- go ahead. >> the data was there. they did show up closely, consistently with what we saw in 2016. >> all right. thank you, richard. over to you, geoff. >> all right. welcome back, america, that's the message from the mayor of paris after joe biden's big win. we're live in london with more reaction.

sky news can now say that the next president of the united states is projected to be joe biden. >> changes are coming, and i'm confident that as soon as biden comes in he will reverse that whole process, and he will put america back in the lead for

tackling climate change. >> it's good that the american elected him because they didn't like trump. trump did stupid things. it's affected us, what he did, and let's seement time will tell. >> that's news of president-elect joe biden's victory spreading around the world. american allies and adversaries were anxious about the outcome. many celebrated their relief across the globe, including in india and the ancestral village of vice president-elect kamala harris. nbc's molly hunter is in london. so what are you hearing from your post there in the uk? >> reporter: hey, good morning. that's right. here in the uk, some excitement. going to run through a couple of the front pages. you've got "the observer," "it's video."

you've got the "supposed times," that says, "sleepy joe wakes up america." and you've got a tab "time to heal." felt across europe and american of america's allies. let's get uk prime minister boris schoojohnson up on screen. "congratulations joe biden and kamala harris, the u.s. is our important important ally and i look forward to working together on shared priorities from climate change to trade and security. "in france, "congratulations to joe and kamala harris. we have a lot to do to overcome today's challenges. let's work together." here's a tweet that spread like wildfire. it was one of the first last night after canadian prime minister justin trudeau -- you have ann hidalgo, mayor of paris, "welcome back america." what's interesting, we've been watching for some of the countries that got particularly cozy with president trump what their reaction has been.

let's throw this up. you have israeli prime minister netanyahu who tweets, "congratulations, joe biden and kamala harris. joe, we've had a long and warm personal relationship for nearly 40 years, and i know you as a great friend of israel." now moments after sending that tweet, he sent another tweet, "thank you, donald trump, for the friendship you have shown the state of israel and me personally for recognizing jerusalem and goal an, for the historic peace accords." look, the morning after we're waiting for reaction from the kremlin. we haven't heard anything from vladimir putin. we haven't heard anything from saudi arabia. mohammed bin salman was president trump's first stop in office. we haven't heard anything from turkish president erdogan. >> one of the big stories that didn't get a lot of attention this week because we were so focused on the election was that london went back into a coronavirus lockdown, right? i remember seeing that on your twitter feed. what's the latest there? >> reporter: that's exactly

right. we are now almost a week into a four-week-long lockdown. look, coronavirus is not going away. and cases here and hospitalizations are starting to skyrocket across europe. look, our colleague, matt bradley, in paris has been reporting that france is back in a national lookdown. it's even more restrictive. there you have to have a government permit to leave your house, explaining explicitly why you are out. here in london, it is much like we saw in march. are you allowed out for essential shopping, that kind of thing. slightly less restrictive, i can go outside as many times as i want for exercise and for walks, which is particularly nice on the rare sunny english november day. guys? >> covid back in this country is the first thing that joe biden says he's going to focus on with the transition starting monday. molly hunter live in london, great to see you. thanks for your time. yasmin? >> thank you. big changes already in the works, everybody. what we know about joe biden's plans to undo multiple executive orders from the current white

house, especially the ones that have to do with immigration. and it was an emotional scene to say the least yesterday in times square where i spent a couple of hours talking to people who were celebrating. >> trump will be out. it's five years we have been fighting. >> everyone is celebrating for the common cause, the love of america. the bright future for our children. >> i am so proud that she is the vice president. bides that she's also a woman. so i'm extra proud. and she's from india. so happy that people chose biden and kamala harris as our next president and vice president. >> i feel even more special for this generation that's coming up. this is -- this moment is very important for them. the last four years have been horrible. and i am so glad to be here for this rebirth and this rejuvenation. lds you back don't settle for silver #1 for diabetic dry skin*

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the trump campaign has filed a new election lawsuit in arizona, even though there are thousands of uncounted ballots there. that state is still too close to call, with president-elect joe biden leading president trump by less than one percentage point. morgan chesky is live in phoenix. great to see you, man. what is the lawsuit alleging? >> yeah, good morning to you. the gap between the candidates is at 18,000 votes. this lawsuit is particularly taking aim on behalf of the trump campaign, on votes that were cast on election day. and it's saying that a poll worker misinformed voters or voters took wrong actions themselves when they went inside to vote at the machine, claiming that they were told it was an overvote on the ballot. and they were instructed to press a green button, that this lawsuit alleges, resulted in that ballot not being counted.

a number of ballots not being counted, to the point they believe it could have a potential outcome on the election. the lawsuit is claiming that these ballots be retrieved and recounted, saying they initially weren't counted on an actual election day when they were cast. meanwhile, the arizona secretary of state, says they've already proven that when this overcount notification came up on the voting machines, that pressing that green button on it, did not invalidate the ballot. she went on to add that this is a repackaging of a prior lawsuit that's since been tossed out, that claimed that people who used a black sharpie marker on the ballots made sure -- let that ballot not be counted, as well. as it stands right now, they don't believe there's any legal recourse for this particular lawsuit. with such a tight race, the lawsuit that's been filed has been expected to draw hundreds

of people outside the maricopa elections department today, demanding a fair vote because so many people here still think that president trump isn't getting a fair shake in all this, as of right now. >> nbc's morgan chesky, live in phoenix. president-elect joe biden is making plans for his first day in office. biden will reverse several of trump's policies on the environment, immigration and the daca program, the dreamers program. joining me is the founder of sol da solidarity strategies. what message do you think it sends from the biden administration, or so it will be called, after january 20th, with signing the executive orders to reverse much of what donald trump did in the last four years? >> well, thank you.

i think it's a big thank you. i think it's a thank you to people of color, black people, brown people, asian people, who came out and voted in droves. black americans and brown americans delivered this election. if you look at the percentages and of the turnout in detroit, milwaukee, las vegas, phoenix, what this does from day one, it says thank you. i'm going to restore some dignity to this white house. i want to thank your community. you no longer have to live in fear in your community anymore. i'm going to have your back. let me start on something i can do. let me reverse some of the executive actions. the muslim ban. reinstoring the daca program. these are things he can do. i think it's a great step for him and senator harris. >> all right. let's get into the policies that

could feasibly say thank you to the black and brown communities. what needs to change in the black and brown communities to make life better for them? we know that joe biden has been criticized for these criminal justices back in the '90s. we know kamla harris has been criticized for her work as a prosecutor, as the california attorney general, as well. she said in her defense, as a prosecutor, what she was most focused on, was making sure communities were safe, especially in the state of california. not just white communities. it was making sure that black communities were safe, as well. that was her priority. how do you take what we have heard on the campaign trail from kamla harris and joe biden, when it comes to making black and brown communities more safe, more educated, and apply it to policy moves that need to be made inside a biden administration. >> yeah. thank you for asking. the first thing we need to recognize is there's a lot of

ways to make the communities safe. some go beyond the criminal justice. having educated communities and strong schools and economic development, making sure with coronavirus, that we're dealing with the health issues, in particular, the disproportionate impact on black communities. all that makes our communities safer. more specifically, in terms of law enforcement, it is the quick actions they can take, in regards to the issue of consent decrees. during the obama administration. there were dissent decrees, for police forces that were looking at the president in his administration undid. that's something that joe biden can go back to. holding the police departments accountable is one way to demonstrate to the black community, we hear you on these issues. we hear the protests that were taking place throughout the spring and summer. that's one way of saying thank you to the voters, that we

mentioned, largely, have put him into office. >> chuck, quickly here, are you worried about the 70 million americans that voted for donald trump and the possibility they need to unite under this president and see this next president, joe biden, as leader. >> i do. i worry about that a lot. joe biden was humble. he talked about losing an election. he talks about having lost. the words of a president matter. you're not going to see joe biden be vindictive or mean. you'll see him reach out and say, i know you may not have voted for me, but we have won america here and i want to be your president. that's how it starts. i don't know if we end in the right place. but we have a president that will reach out and say, you're welcome over here. please, let's come together as americans. >> all right. thank you to your both. very much appreciate you joining us in this hour.

thanks for watching this special edition of "msnbc live." >> our colleague, stephanie ruhle, continues our live coverage. ♪ hi, there. i'm stephanie ruehl. it is sunday, november 8th. i'm psyched to be here for our special coverage right here on msnbc. in his first speech as president-elect, former vice president joe biden, says it is time for this nation to heal. and he appealed directly to trump supporters to help make that happen. watch this moment. >> it's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again. and to make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies.