officially declared joe biden the president-elect. on january 20, 2021, at noon, the former vice president will become the 46th president of the united states. his running mate, senator kamala harris of california, set to become the first woman, the first african-american, the first person of asian descent, the first child of an immigrant, to attain the office of vice president. folks across the country broke out in spontaneous celebrations over the biden/harris victory. on the streets of washington, atlanta, new york, and philadelphia, just to name a few. the commonwealth of pennsylvania, the boyhood home of joe biden, propelling the pair over the top to the historic outcome. at last count, the biden ticket has 279 electoral college votes to donald trump's 214. alaska, arizona, georgia, and north carolina still too close to call. last night, biden and harris addressed the nation for the first time as president and vice

president-elect, offering hope and unity to a divided country. >> i've long talked about the battle for the soul of america. we must restore the soul of america. our nation is shaped by the constant battle between our better angels and our darkest impulses. and what presidents say in this battle matters. it's time for our better angels to prevail. tonight the whole world is watching america. >> joe is a healer, a uniter, a tested and study hand, a person whose own experience of loss gives him a sense of purpose that will help us as a nation reclaim our own sense of purpose. >> on the other side of history, president trump continued his baseless claims of election fraud. on saturday, hours after

multiple national and international media networks confirmed the biden victory, trump took to twitter, posting a claim about election fraud. and while the social giant flagged and disputed the claim, it didn't limit its dissemination, allowing the false information to spread. a matter which we will be talking about for a long time, after today. this is just the latest in trump's efforts to sabotage the outcome in this historic election, to push back against the decision of the more than 74.5 million voters who backed the biden/harris ticket, the most ever in a presidential election. trump has also tried unsuccessfully to use the court system to muddy the waters of the outcome following his defeat. "time" magazine reporting, quote, the trump campaign blitzed the state and federal courts with roughly a dozen new lawsuits, most attempting to halt the voting process or to

delegitimize tranches of ballots, but they are unlikely to change the outcome of the race. at this point there is nothing for trump to do but to go quietly into the night. but he's unlikely to do that. joe biden seems focused on the business ahead. according to people familiar with his plans, the president-elect is readying several executive orders as soon as he takes office to reverse trump's policies. "the washington post" reporting, quote, he will rejoin the practices climate accords. he will reverse president trump's withdrawal from the wor world health organization. he will repeal the ban on all travel from some muslim majority programs. he will reinstate the program allowing dreamers who were brought to the united states illegally as children to remain in the country, end quote. let's bring nbc's political reporter ali vitali who joins us from biden campaign headquarters in wilmington, delaware. 73 days to go to inauguration

day. the biden/harris administration has a lot of work ahead of them but they have some sense of prioritizing how it's going to go, ali. it seems it's starting with the biggest story in america outside of the election, and that is coronavirus. >> reporter: that's right. the way they campaigned, it seems, is the way they're going to governing in terms of priorities. even before joe biden is digging into the ideas of who could be in his cabinet, who could staff key white house positions, he's saying he'll appoint a 12-person task force to deal with translating the biden five-point plan on how to tackle covid into an action plan until he's sworn in as president-elect. it goes to show all the talk on the campaign trail, they believe the pandemic needs to be solved but they can bring back the economic and delving into a lengthy agenda that the democrats have now that they have the white house in their

grasp. you mentioned this is a bumpy period of time. "bumpy" may be an understatement, ali. we've both covered the president for a while, we know that the word "concession" is probably not one he's going to like to hear. it's up in the air if we're going to hear a concession from him. it doesn't really matter, it's not a legally binding thing but it is a hallmark of american democracy to seat person we the loses the election to tell the world that the new president is the president of the united states. that has been the biden message over the course of his campaign. he tried to make it again last night. the question is whether the people who supported trump over the course of the last few years will be willing to hear that message. and frankly, if trump is going to be able to amplify it. we're going to be talking about the word "concession" over the course of the next few weeks but also because election results are official right now, we've called it, but it's an official

with a little bit of a star, because you'll see actual official canvassing totals several weeks ago, not just because of this moment right now but because that's how this election always works. we get the final firm numbers several weeks later from all the states and localities. i would say, i keep coming back to this statement that the biden team put out just a few days ago, in advance of the idea that biden was going to win and the conversation was going to turn to a concession. the biden campaign at that point said, the united states government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the white house. it's a stunning statement, a fiery statement. it speaks to where we are right now with how high the tension is in the country. it also brings to mind where you heard now president-elect joe biden say on the stage last night that now is the time to take the temperature down in this country. i know from talking to trump campaign sources, though, they're very much still in fight mode, even if they know it's not going to turn the tide of the election, that's the way this

president and his allies have always been and frankly we know that's the advice he's getting even from his son don junior, saying this is a fight to the death. there is militancy still in that camp as this election phase has wound down and now the transition phase begins. >> except the world i come from, as you know, ali, i'm a financial and economics journalist, the world is math, and the math doesn't work for them. >> reporter: i like to live in that world too. >> many things change, ali, i wonder if this is time to talk to the bosses about the "ali v." show. >> reporter: let's do it. >> we're here. ali v., my friend, good to see you. ali vitali for us in wilmington, delaware. joining me now, phil rucker, msnbc political alternately, along with brittany cunningham, msnbc contributor, founder of love and power works.

good morning to biotic oth of y thank you for being here. brittany, you and i have talked about not just the election but the undercurrents that led to it. i'm curious what you believe the strongest undercurrents were that led joe biden to his victory, his 74 million plus votes and the history-making vice president kamala harris. >> so a black suffragist had a saying about black women. she said, we specialize in the holy impossible. nowhere else was that true beyond the 2020 election. black women, black organizers, black and brown organizers all across the country brought it home in ways that seemed impossible, flipping states that no one believed would even be on the map for us, and let's remember, bringing georgia within striking distance of taking not one but two senate seats. black women, black folks,

marginalized people across the country, we won this election. i'll remind you, on the ticket and on the ground, we are three and oh as democrats with a black candidate on the ticket. kamala harris in her acceptance speech at the nomination said that our democracy is only as strong as how it treats black women. and we, those of us who are activists and organizers and do this work, we are going to make sure we are treated well and not just thanked which things get tough because we continue to pull it out for our communities which ends up benefiting the rest of america. we certainly have work to do. that work will continue to center on the ground. >> phillip rucker, what happens at the white house? ali vitali was saying they're all carrying on about how it's going to be a fight to the death and we saw all caps tweets from president trump yesterday about how he won the election. it's nonsensical but there is a practicality here in that there

will be a new president moving into the white house. what will this transition look like? because it's kind of important. >> you know, ali, there's certainly speculation about what donald trump is going to do. it would be very hard to imagine him not actually physically leaving the white house on january 20 when joe biden is sworn in as the president. what happens between now and then is an open question. but within trump's orbit, within the white house, there is a recognition that the math simply does not add up for him, that he has lost, and now it's just a point of getting the president into the right head spatial where he can acknowledge that reality. they're continuing these legal fights, but the reporting at "the washington post" shows these fights are really to satisfy the satisfy, who wants to see a fight, doesn't want to give up and doesn't want to succumb to the reality that's all around him and the reality that yesterday was physically all around his home, with tens of thousands of people cheering

in the streets outside the white house. >> brittany, what happens, how do you bottle this? the reason i ask you this is because people felt some kind of joy in 2008 when barack obama was elected, thinking some things in america's dark history are behind us now. who knew they would come roaring back in 2016? so what do you do now as you celebrate? black women who came out and ran for office in 2018, black women who came and powered this victory now, americans who voted for the first time for justice, what do you do now to make sure we're not sitting around in four or eight years thinking, well, that was a mirage? >> well, white supremacy came roaring back because it never actually left. this is long term, multigenerational work that we have to do. but there are indicators about the power of the people and the progress that we look forward to making. look, last night i tweeted about the fact that both the vice

president elect and the president-elect said in their victory speech words like systemic racism. people thought i was overly satisfied, look, i'm never satisfied with words, but i know what history tells us. it tells us that political rhetoric is a sign of culture change and those things help move policy. all of this is an indicator of the effectiveness of movements. four years ago it was nearly impossible to get a presidential candidate to even say black lives matter. two years before that in ferguson we were being called thugs. there is growing rhetoric on cable news that establishment leaders are trying to push, and they're trying to blame black and brown activists and so-called identity politics, when joe biden and kamala harris were very clear last night about who got them over the finish line and called out those very identities. transgendered americans, disabled americans, black americans, those who stand against systemic racism, we

matter to humanity, we matter to political priorities. words alone are never enough, but they're an indicator of power. we have a lot of work to do but we are going to do it knowing that our power is unshakeable and we're not going anywhere. i'm recognizing the power we have and using it at every turn. >> i guess my question for you, then, brittany, how do you express to people who think that that sort of identity politics is zero sum? if transgender people in america would like rights, if gay people in america would like rights, if black people would like to not be killed extra judicially by police, that doesn't actually take rights away from anyone else who enjoys them whatsoever. there's nothing zero sum about this, it's additive only. >> not only does it not take away other people's rights, it gives other people rights. when marginalized people are more free and experiencing more equity and more justice in the world, that is good for

everybody. that is more health care for everyone. that is more abundance for everybody. that is more safety for everyone. that's better schools and better housing, cleaner water, better jobs, better wages for everyone. when we're talking about justice and when we are working on those things for our communities, as you said, ali, those are an additive benefit to everyone. instead of looking at power like it's scarce, we need to look at it like it is truly abundant and leverage it everywhere with better conditions in this white house making that possible. >> power is not scarce in this country. food is not scarce in this country. health care in not scarce in this country. wages should not be scarce in this country. we just need everybody to get access to those things. thank you to both of you, phil rucker, it's great to have you join us at this hour, and brittany cunningham, founder of love works. coming up, what the next

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folks, our work begins with getting covid under control. we cannot repair the economy, restore our vitality, or relish life's precious moments, hugging our grandchildren, weddings, birthdays, graduations, all the moments that matter most to us, until we get it under control. on monday, i will name a group of leading scientists and experts as transition advisers to help take the biden/harris covid plan and convert it into an action blueprint that will start on january 20, 2021. >> in the face of the deadly and growing covid-19 pandemic, in his first major announcement

since becoming president-elect, joe biden is creating a coronavirus task force. refreshingly, it will be led by scientists and experts and will be co-chaired by former surgeon general of the united states, vivek murthy, former fda commissioner david kessler. >> that plan will be built on bedrock science. it will be constructed out of compassion, empathy, and concern. i will spare no effort, none, or any commitment, to turn around this pandemic. folks, i'm a proud democrat. but i will govern as an american president. >> meanwhile, the current white house is facing yet another outbreak inside its ranks. nbc news has confirmed that five more members of trump's team have recently been diagnosed

with covid-19 including his chief of staff mark meadows, a trump campaign aide and at least three additional white house staffers. at least 38 members of trump's west wing or campaign have been diagnosed with the disease since october. we're now at three straight days with more than 100,000 new covid-19 cases and deaths continue to hover at over a thousand a day. 238,000 americans have died of covid-19 during this pandemic. if you're choosing to celebrate this weekend, please be safe, wear a mask, keep your distance. minnesota congresswoman ilhan omar joins me next with her farewell message to the outgoing president.

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with election of the country's first woman of color and the reelection of a number of congresswomen who are very progressive. one of them, congresswoman ilhan omar, has been a frequent target of president trump's name calling and attacks which she says frequently lead to threats of violence against her. but now omar has been overwhelmingly reelected and donald trump has not been. the president's loss came after years of consistent fearmongering over progressive ideals, a tactic he used to scare his base and divide the nation. joining me now is minnesota congresswoman representative ilhan omar. good morning, congresswoman and congresswoman-elect, you have won again. i worry that you will have to find a new place to live by virtue of the fact that you have been living largely rent-free in the president's mind. he brought you up at almost every rally in recent weeks. he's got a real obsession with you. >> good morning to you, ali.

it's a great day, isn't it, to wake up knowing that the president realizes you don't pick a fight with a somali woman. >> let's talk about the one thing that the president never got to in talking about you, is sort of what you stand for and the part of the party that you represent, the progressive values that have sort of been pushed aside by virtue of the donald trump presidency. we got some basic things to achieve in this country. minimum wage is too low, too many people don't have health care, too many people lost health care because of the virus and probably next week more people are going to lose health care if the aca is struck down again. we have issues with the climate. we have all sorts of issues with social justice in your own state of minnesota. what happens now? >> well, i first want to say, i think the president is learning that every single person that he's attacked, especially black

women, and the communities they represented have all organized and mobilized themselves to rid him from our country. and that is glorious. we should not lose sight of the fact that it's not just the rebuke of the american people that will eventually send him packing on january 20, but it's a rebuke that comes from the communities that he has targeted in the last four years. and that is truly the most joyous part of this election, of the election results. we have a lot of work to do going forward. obviously we have to address the covid-19 pandemic and curb the spread of this virus. i am pleased to see that the

biden/harris administration is already, before it's even sworn in, is thinking about that, that really speaks to the hunger we've all been feeling for leadership. and secondly, you know, we have to, you know, address the minimum wage crisis that exists in our country, the climate crisis. you know, many years of social and economic neglect have brought us to this moment. there is a lot of opportunity for us to roll up our sleeves and get to work on behalf of the american people. >> in those rallies, the president pronounced kamala harris's name in very unusual ways that made them seem very hard to pronounce. he has great trouble pronouncing my name. he emphasizes your name, it has about 18 syllables the way he says it.

he's emphasizing otherness, he's emphasizing difference, he's emphasizing race. he is also emphasizing beliefs. he called kamala harris a socialist. he refers to you and some of your colleagues that way. he got 70 million votes. 70 people people, despite the racism, despite the disaster of this administration, voted for him. would you do anything differently, is there a way you would present the things you stand for to try and not make the next person who does that get 70 million votes, or would you do it all the same again? >> no, i think we're forgetting that the president isn't a symptom of me and my presence. he has been in office longer than i've been in congress. he is a symptom of something larger. and, you know, we have to figure out what the process is, to heal

the divides in our nation. how do we get over the cultural wars that we are in, how do we get in the process of speaking to people who marginalized on both ends of the spectrum and how, you know, do we get to think of ourselves as americans and not, you know, the left or the right. >> if i may, how do you do that? how do you deal with -- how are you tolerant of and empathic toward people who are not that way toward you? because you have experienced racism, starting with the president of the united states. do you, are you capable of empathy toward people who don't think you should be here, certainly don't think you should be in the united states congress? >> i certainly a.m. i don't know if you remember, i asked for leniency for a person

who is currently incarcerated for threatening to kill me. i think hate is too big of a burden to carry. i work and lead my life with love and compassion and empathy. i know that i was uprooted from my home country at the age of 8, because of violence, because of divisions, because of what happens when people don't see themselves as neighbors and friends and family and turn on one another. so my mission in life has been to work towards creating solidarity between people and guiding my life that way. and it's solidarity that has gotten me through the hardest times. i mean, i found family, i always talk about how minnesota is a cold place but the people have warm hearts. and if it wasn't for that, i wouldn't be here today.

my life is an example of what happens when people are willing to give you a chance to have empathy for you, when they are leading with compassion. and, you know, i do think of that every single day and what it means to give back to everyone who has given me so lovingly. >> representative ilhan omar, good to see you, thank you. congratulations on your victory. ilhan omar of minnesota. as we're counting down to inauguration day on january 20, the country is asking itself what the transition from a trump to a biden administration is going to look like, that's next. make family-sized meals fast. and because it's a ninja foodi, it can do things no other oven can, like flip away. the ninja foodi air fry oven, the oven that crisps and flips away.

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we stand together, finally, as one america. we'll rise stronger than we were before. we will be at on the first day of my presidency to get covid under control. we'll act to pass my economic plan that will finally reward work, not wealth, in this country. and we'll act to restore our faith in democracy and our faith in one another. we'll once more become one nation, under god, indivisible,

a nation united, a nation strength strengthened, a nation healed. >> that will likely be the first time you've seen that, the biden/harris team dropping a video moments ago on twitter as they begin their transition to the white house. two of their major challenges include dealing with a hostile current administration and the surging coronavirus pandemic. yesterday the united states set another record for daily new covid-19 cases, topping 126,000. that is the third straight day above 100,000. we are eclipsing numbers that we saw in april and in may. in an effort to get the virus under control, biden will immediately name a group of top health officials to co-chair his coronavirus task force. a campaign source tells nbc news it will include former surgeon general vivek murthy, former fda commissioner david kessler, and yale university's dr. marcella

nunez-smith. melanie barnes is a former director of the white house domestic policy council under barack obama. she also worked on the obama/biden transition team. melanie, it's great to see you again. i guess i need to ask you how this time is different from all other times, because in all other times, generally speaking, the person who lost, i was going to say the guy who lost, admitted he lost and there was generally an active move toward handing over the administration smoothly. we don't know if that's going to happen. >> first of all, good morning, it is a pleasure to be with you. and it is morning in america and indeed around the world again. you're exactly right, when we started the obama transition, we had the benefit of a bush white house that from the top down said we are going to work with you, this is about the peaceful transition of power, and that was the directive that spread across the administration. so when we had to begin going

into the 15 departments, the hundreds of agencies, looking at issues of personnel, policy, and litigation, we had the benefit of a cooperative administration. and now we have the potential undermining of a president that will not concede. and it's unclear exactly what that will mean in terms of the transition. but we're also fortunate that we have a president-elect who was there in 2008-2009 who understands how to begin this process in a transition, who understands the challenges not only in the executive branch but also how to work with the congress based on his experience there. >> so let me ask you about this. i would imagine transition teams have evolved over time but they generally involve buckets, right? there's group that's going to deal with this and there's a group that's going to deal with that. it strikes me there may be a new group this time, which deals with what happens if the transition doesn't occur the

normal way, i.e. there has been no concession tweets. there have been several tweets by donald trump this morning questioning the legitimacy of the election, we don't even when that will end. what happens at noon on january 20 if the president hasn't arrived at the same conclusion that millions of americans have? >> i would hope we don't arrive at that constitutional question. a concession is the normal thing but it isn't necessary. when in fact the electors are certified and those votes are counted, that is the moment, and we know based on the information we have today what we -- what should and we believe will happen when the electoral college is counted in december. but remember, the transition work has been under way for many weeks, in fact months. it is the only responsible thing to do. so the preparation, given the

challenges, we've talked about it all morning, covid-19, the president-elect has plans to announce, also what will happen if the affordable care act is overturned next week at the supreme court, looking at not only health care but the economic implications of covid-19 and a host of other issues as signaled by the fact that the president-elect has already announced some things he intends to do with the paris climate accord, the world health organization, with regard to dreamers and other issues. so this work is already under way. very exhausted people are -- already have their shoulder to the wheel. >> you make two interesting points. in december the electors will formally elect the president of the united states after every state has certified its results. and at noon on january 20, a new president is sworn in. that is of no question, no one else has any say in that matter, that's how it happens and whatever happens that day will

happen. but generally speaking, in these groups that deal with the transition, there are members of the outgoing administration. in fact traditionally there's a very nice letter that goes out, george h.w. bush left a letter or note for bill clinton in which he wrote, you will be president when you read this note, i wish you well, i wish your family well. that all should happen. do you all know that there are members of the trump administration whose job is to transition this administration and who are doing this work? >> i don't have that information. four years ago when this process was under way, i was concerned then because it appeared the incoming trump administration had no sense of the import of a transition process. you only have a very brief amount of time to do what in business would amount to the largest takeover of an entity in the world. 4,000 individuals in terms of personnel.

you've got cabinet appointments, subcabinet appointments. you've got the work in those departments and agencies. i remember walking into my office on january 20, and the phone was ringing and the person on the other end had a substantive question. so you've got all of that under way. and if you don't have an administration that understood that when they were walking in the door, i have deep concerns about those that are struggling to stay in when they should be walking out of the door. but i hope that common sense, i belief in the country, a responsibility to the country, will prevail and that that work will in fact be under way. and in fact, there's statutory requirements now that govern the transition, that those things will be in effect and for the good of the nation, the transition will begin. >> and the good news is that the president, the incoming president was the vice president for two terms and the vice president is a united states senator. so they know a thing or two about governing.

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fdr. now that he is president-elect, sanders and other progressives alike want to hold biden's feet to the fire. bernie sanders joins me now. senator, good morning you to, good to see you. now that joe biden has won the election, how do you plan to ensure that this administration is as progressive as you and people who support you would want it to be? >> well, two things. i think we're going to hold joe accountable for the ideas that he has projected and fought for during the campaign. as you know, ali, we had a series of task forces working on major issues. and i know, absolutely, that joe will stand by the recommendations of those task forces. second of all, at a time when tens of millions of people are hurting, they don't have any health insurance, they're earning starvation wages, they're unemployed, they can't afford to send their kids to college, the progressive movement will rally the american

people to create a government that works for all of us, not just the people on top. so we hold joe accountable. and i am confident he will do what he says. we rallied the american people around an agenda that works for working people. >> have you had a chaps to talk to hchance to talk to him yet? >> i did not, i talked to kamala last night but did not get a chance to talk to joe. >> what do you want to say to him besides congratulations? >> i want to congratulate him very deeply for winning an election which was the most important in the modern history of this country, because what was at stake, frankly, is whether we continue to be a democracy. what joe did. democracy. what joe did

destroyed lives all over this country, that people as we speak don't have food in the cupboard to feed their kids, that people are leaving school deeply, deeply in debt, that people are dying because they don't get to a doctor on time this country faces enormous crises and, in fact, if we want to bring the american people together, which is what joe biden does, the way you do that is to say black and white and latino, do you think we should be raising the minimum wage to a living wage? yeah, we do. do you think we should guarantee health care to all people? yeah, we do. do you think we should deal with climate change and create millions of jobs as we transform our energy system? should we create jobs rebuilding our infrastructure ali, there are so many issues out there that can bring our people together and that is what i think we have got to d >> i spent the last two months going outas to mostly swing stas talking to voters around there and a number of conservative voters and trump supporters would say to me that their

biggest concern about voting for joe biden was socialism and i would ask them, i described socialism as government control ofas production. so government paying for -- not socialism, minimum wage is not socialism, people speaking on the streets is not socialism. they were scared of socialism. the things we discussed many times that we share an interest in, i've been public about my embrace for single-pair health care that's not socialism. what do you do aboutno the messe that donald trump was successful in labeling youal and kamala harris and joe biden to some degree for 70 million people as socialists. how do you work to get that word out there and say this is fairness, this is just the way a rich society should w operate? >>ch look, let's be clear that trump and republicans lie all of the time, but i think your point is well taken. we have to gol in by issue aft issue. so i say to the republicans,

people who voted for trump were waiting this program, are you really happy that a handful of people on top who are making billions more during this pandemic now own more wealth than the bottom half of american society? are you happy that your kid isf working for 9 bucks an hour and can't afford to go to college? are you happy that thousands of veterans in this country are sleeping out on the street? do you know what the answer is? no. you know, donald trump says people love their private health insurance. i have not talked to too many people who love their private health insurance. in fact, they detest the insurance companies because they get ripped off every single day. so we've got to talk about and explain how we provide health care to all people in a cost effective way so that the drug companies do not make huge profits and do you know what, ali, when you make that argument people say, oh, that's right, bernie., i have done this all over the country. >> yes. >> but, by the way, we need to have that discussion and that is

precisely, you know, the role that i and other progressives are going to be playing in the coming years. >> i'm having a tiny problem with my michelle caruso-cabrera i hope you canbl fully hear me this one. >> i can. >> we have a senate we have not yet determined the outcome of yet there are t a lot of people saying bernie sanders should be labor secretary, bernie sanders should be hhs secretary. i'm not 100% sure about the wisdom of bernie sanders being pulled out of the senate in a senate that is tightly na controlled, but in case the democrats do not take control of the senate with the outstanding races that we've got, what is your role in this administration or in this senate? what's your best mission? >> well, ali, let me just say this because it's really not just me. i think anybody who objectively looks at biden's success, thank god he won, understands that progressives grassroots movements, black and brown and white and environmental, et cetera, labor, played an enormously important role in bringing out the vote. so if t the question is do i believe that the progressive

movement today deserves important places in the biden administration, the answer is absolutely. we are an integral part of the democratic coalition, i'm not here to sayli that we are the dominant part, but we are an integral and important part that deserves representation in the biden administration. >> but you are the leader of an integral -- you are one of the leadersu that have integral an important part of the democratic party. what we are going toe watch fo the next few years is the republican party reinvent itself and figure out what it is. how do you prevent the democratic party from disintegrating into this battle but rather encourage that it grows from this discussion? >> i think we are -- do not minimize the successes that we have had in bringing many, many millions of working people and young people into the political process. and what the democratic party has got to understand is that democrats overwhelmingly, by the

way, believe in a medicare for all single-payer system, believe that we have to take on the crooks in the pharmaceutical system, that people can no longern work for starvation wages. my understanding is trump has succeeded because white working class people look around and say does anybody give a damn about me and my kids and my parents. at least trump gives the rhetoric. we have to say we are prepared to stand up and take on the greed and corruption. >> d yes. >> of large corporations who are ripping off the american people today of a tax system that gives tax breaks to billionaires with an effective tax rate higher for working families. so the democratic party has got to be angry and stand up and say, in the richest country on earth we can do a hell of a lot better for working families than we're doing now. thankator bernie sanders, you always for your time. it has been good talking to you. we will continue to do so. bernie sanders isnt the united states senator from vermont. that does it for me. thank you for watching this election edition of "velshi."

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