jooths time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again and to make progress we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies.

we are not our enemies, they are americans. they're americans. the bible tells us to everything there is a season, a time to build, a time to reap and a time to sow and a time to heal. this is the time to heal in america. good morning, and welcome to "a.m. joy," i'm ari melber. spending the next two hours with you on a very newsworthy sunday. this election is over, joe biden is the president-elect of the united states, vote nood office by a record 75 million american votes. that is, as mentioned, so many times this weekend, the most ever by a presidential candidate in the united states. kamala harris joins him, herself making history as the first woman, first black and first asian-american vice president elect. across the coast we are seeing the newspaper front pages her d heralding a news of the major

change in america. we have "the new york times" biden beats trump. of course, the "washington post" with the same bottom line in three words. go out to motor city, detroit free press, heralding the news, simply, biden elected. "l.a. times" in hollywood, a similar story, biden wins. and the paper for what appears to be the newly blue state of georgia, the atlanta journal constitution after a long week for america, a new president this morning. it's not just the papers, we're tracking celebrations for you that have sprang up across the nation on saturday, many of them obviously impromptu, organic gatherings, growing and swelling in size over the course of this historic day and evening. jubilation we saw as joe biden became the official president-elect. all of this as donald trump decided to spend the day playing a round of golf out there in virginia. we haven't heard from the president if he appears today

you can bet we will give you an update on the news. there is much work to be done. joe biden takes over this raging pandemic in america that continues to surge this week. we're also still of course in the worst economic crisis many say since the first great depression. we want to go back out to the biden campaign where it is a transition vibe. ali vitali is in wilmington, delaware, where i think you as a reporter like many of the biden staff you cover and like many americans out across the country a long year, a long week, a long day, we appreciate you getting up early with us. i'd like you to start by telling us everything that you're feeling on this first day that you people you cover are waking up in white house mode. >> reporter: ari, i think yesterday you really felt the collective exhale here in wilmington, so much pent up emotion as this campaign team has been waiting to see this race called. they have long predicted it was going to be theirs for the

winning but last night seeing joe biden get on that stage, after making the remarks, a pretty impressive lights show here, but really the celebration they had been planning for on and off since the time that i started standing in this parking lot talking to you and our colleagues almost every hour for the last few days, but now the work begins. there is no rest for the victors. the transition effort is already under way, they've got a live website now, a twitter, but more importantly the real work begins tomorrow, putting together a 12-person task force to deal with the coronavirus led by dr. murthy. really leaning into the science here, the way that joe biden used to talk about this on the road, now putting it into practice in governing, the five-point plan that he used to talk about all the time to voters is one that he's hoping this task force can put into action even before he starts looking at who he can put in the cabinet, who is going to stack his white house, this is the top priority. cases are still spiking across

the country. in terms of what he will do on the day he's inaugurated we are getting a better picture of the executive orders and executive actions that he may undertake once he gets there. things like putting america back in the paris climate agreement, rejoining the world health organization, reversing trump's ban on immigration from muslim majority countries as well as putting protections back in place for dreamers. those are the things that joe biden ran on, but now getting a chance to put them into planning as he starts to build out what his government is actually going to look like. i have to say, though, as i was watching the results go in i was really struck by the world leaders, the democrats, some of the republicans who basically were saying i know trump hasn't conceded yet, but we've seen enough. to me it really spoke to both the way that joe biden governed as vice president but also the way that he ran with this inclusive kind of message versus the way that donald trump has been this volatile figure on the world stage for the last four years. those reactions to me were really striking. as we go into this next 70 some

odd day stretch of transition before the inauguration there is honestly a lot that we don't know, the legal challenges still outstanding, all of the things that the trump campaign might do to try to muddy the waters here a little bit, but, ari, the only thing we do know is as the great taylor swift has said, all i know since yesterday, everything has changed. >> wow. i didn't know you were going to go taylor. she also said it's delicate and it was up until last night. it was delicate and then all of a sudden it was over. >> reporter: yeah. >> i want to go to one more point and it's not taylor related, ali, but i'm just curious how did it actually feel being there? we -- so many americans were watching this speech, it was unusual, everyone knew basically they were going to hear from the winner and we weren't going to hear from the loser and we have had a lot of weird pandemic-style pseudo events or different types of campaign events. last night even with the honking

horns and, yes, it's a pandemic, it looked and felt on tv more like a barnstorming conventional old school victory rally, but you were there, i'm curious how it felt. >> reporter: ari, this was always planned as a drive-thru event but you mentioned all the spontaneous gatherings we have seen across the country. that was the case here in wilmington, too. as soon as the networks called the race joe biden released the statement, had not yet taken the stage here, but still people were spilling out around the perimeter here that's been set up around this parking lot just wanting to be a part of this moment. and talking to voters, it became really clear to me quickly, i asked them do you feel like this is over? do you need a concession from the president? and the voters that i talked to, the supporters here that i talked to said, they're done with it. they've seen enough. they just want to get into the action of a joe biden and kamala harris government. i would also point out, though, there are progressive battles on the horizon. just because they've won the election, there is a huge slate and you know this well, of democratic policy agendas that people on the hill as well as in

this new incoming white house are going to want to tackle and there is a wide array of opinions on how best to do that. >> ali vitali, quite busy. thank you as always for joining us. we will be checking back with you. we turn now on the program to nikema williams in georgia's fifth congressional district which is the seat of the late congressman and american icon john lewis, brittney cooper the author of "eloquent rage" and paola ramos is the author of "finding latinx." good to have everyone here. congresswoman elect williams, what does today mean to you? >> today means so much to me, ari, i'm wearing my alpha kappa alpha shirt today because my sorority sister is the next vice president of the united states. i've been watching my twitter feed and social media and the thing that has stood out to me and so many little girls whose moms have posted messages about what this moment means for them,

about, number one, being able to talk to our children about decency and honor in elected offices and also just seeing themselves in someone in the next vice president, the one that stood out was greenly, eight years old in alexandria, virginia, and she said i can do it, too, mommy and, greenly, you can do it. i am just so happy and so full that representation matters so much and who we put in elected offices to show our children what leadership is supposed to be like matters so much and we're getting decency back in our country. we made sure that our democracy was strong and voters decided the direction of this country. >> professor cooper? >> look, i'm representing my howard t-shirt. this is what they produce. all black women are having a victory lap today because this is the victory that black women won for this democracy, we organized for t we put joe biden

into office, we insisted that he bring a black woman president with him and we relied on folks like representative williams and stacey abrams down in georgia to deliver, you know, to flip georgia blue and so this is a victory that says that black women are formidable political contenders both as leaders and also strategists and we have lots of hopes and dreams going into this position with kamala harris, you know, hopes and dreams for a progressive political vision on her back, hopes and dreams that she will hold vice president biden accountable. he said last night that he would have african americans' backs because he knew that we got him there. so now she is literally on his six, she's literally got to have his back and so we hope that he will turn around and he will reciprocate that. this is a huge victory for us today, we are smiling, waiting to have a waiting to exhale moment brought to us because black women showed up for this

democracy. folks need to give us this victory lap and, you know, i think we also need to give sister kamala harris the trust that she needs, the prayers that she needs and let her also know that we are both behind her, we are ready to defend and protect her and ride for her, but we also really need her to show up for us and to make this count. >> you know, something that we've discussed before, professor cooper, on msnbc and i think with the entire panel as well, but i go to the professor again, is that because racism is central to america's founding, it's with us here as we go through all these challenges, and the problem with discrimination and exclusion is, first, it's wrong. okay. hopefully people know that. but there are other problems after it being wrong. it's also very dumb and it hurts your self-interest to be discriminatory and exclusive and just not have the full team

playing. i think about that with -- there's been so much discussion about trumpism, today is not a day about trumpism, per se, but racism's rich bipartisan history in america, which can't be forgotten, either. i want to put up something from, of all people, nate silver, brittney cooper. not because -- not because he is a civil rights icon, i don't think he is, but he is a numbers person and he says maybe worth noting the democrats are 3-0 this century when they have a black person on the ticket and 0-3 when they don't. professor cooper? >> i mean, look, that sums it up very clearly. look, i think that part of the thing the democratic party really has to think about and this is going to be joe biden's reckoning, are they going to get into office and make this about appealing to centrist voters, make this about appealing to trump voters, make this about a kind of easy unity, or is there

going to be a real recognition that when black folks voted to pull this country back from the brink, this is why you have the french president, you know, tweeting welcome back, right, as we say we're going into the paris accords, the world was like, what are you doing for the last four years? black women saw that and said, this project is worth investing in in so far as our blood and sweat and tears hope to build it. part of what it means to actually say that you win with black women, that you win with black people on the ticket is that now you've got to actually pony up a policy agenda that's going to speak to black people's interesting and is not going to be about centering and assuaging the 70 million voters who voted for a very different kind of world. i'm both excited and elated about what this means, but i have my eyes laser focused on joe biden and kamala harris because black folks are asking for real policy concessions here to make our communities better, real investments, and we aren't

asking to be unified with the kind of people that would deliver donald trump to another victory, we are asking for a forward-looking, future-pressing agenda and you can't celebrate black women, you can't celebrate kamala and stacey and representative nikema and, you know, la torn is that brown and all of the black women who made this thing happen and get into office and focus your entire attention on appeasing white voters because they fell out of the fold. that can't be the political agenda of this moment. i think we will have hard truths and hard wrestling over these next couple of months. here is the unifying piece of this, part of what black women know, which is why we vote in the ways that we do is that when you build a policy agenda that supports, you know, black women's interesting around reproductive justice, housing, health care, economic access, you create a big tent that includes everybody. we bring everybody with us just like we brought america with us. that is our point. you don't lose by investing with

us, you don't lose by bringing us with you, you win that way. you win that way. >> yeah. all such important points here to kick off our hour. paola, i want to play a little more from the speech last night, some of this is so rich in history that we will be watching it for more than a day and i think for generations you may be watching both these speeches last night as a coda to the last four years. i want to remind viewers paola worked for hillary clinton as mentioned but also was on the biden team working, i believe, with the chief of staff to joe biden and with dr. biden, so it will be interesting to get your first reaction here. take a quick look. >> i pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide, but unify. who doesn't see red states and blue states, only sees the united states. for all of those of you who voted for president trump, i understand the disappointment

tonight, i've lost a couple times myself, but now let's give each other a chance. >> best speech of his life? >> i honestly think so. ari, when i heard kamala harris yesterday, when i heard vice president biden the first thing that i thought about was the four years that i've been covering immigrants because the one thing that kept coming up in every single conversation was what is the american dream real? was it worth it to come to this country? for children of immigrants they had this same question. the last four years if you are an immigrant in this country you have been told that you do not belong here, that this country wasn't yours. suddenly yesterday you have the daughter of immigrants rising to the most powerful office in this country. suddenly you have kamala harris say my mother, who is from india, at one point would have never imagined that moment, but she did believe that america, in this america, that was a possibility. that message is something that everyone has to hear and they did. so the beauty and the power of

yesterday is that when kamala harris takes office she's bringing a story, she's bringing an identity that has a capacity to transform power as we know it when we can finally center people of color and immigrants at the center of power, that can be incredible. as the professor said, these fights that are political, checklists, promises certainly carry a personal stake and something as crazy as passing comprehensive immigration reform now becomes a possibility. and i think that's, you know, today and yesterday and for the next four years a lot of people have something to look forward to. >> all really well put. i'm over on time but i did want to get back to the congresswoman lake effect before we close this part of the conversation. you're entering the co-equal branch of government. part of what we have to do in this process to today, tomorrow, the days ahead is not overreact to someone who is officially a

loser in this race, i don't say that as an insult, but this is how these things work, there is a winner and a loser and the loser traditionally concedes but he has not and that has no legal relevance as i've already explained and reported for viewers, but i'm curious as someone entering the other branch of government how do you think that should be handled and how much should we market because what is not normal and what is a breach of all of these other traditions should be marked, while also making sure that everyone understands that we move forward regardless. and your thoughts on that and the current president who remains the president under our system until january breaking with all precedent whatsoever here as another day goes by where he won't acknowledge the loss. >> ari, this isn't new for donald trump, he has always broken with the norms and broken with our traditions of democracy here in this country. i am excited to hear that joe biden and kamala harris are moving forward with their

transition plans and setting up a coronavirus task force to get our country back on track, to get national response to this pandemic so that our children can go back to school safely, so that our economy can get back on track, so as we continue to go through this i don't expect to hear a concession speech for donald trump, i don't need that to know that we have a new president in this country, that will be sworn in on january 20th and i'm forward thinking, i'm looking forward to joining the 117th congress and making sure that i continue to center those most marginalized in our decision-making process so that we can move this country forward. >> really well put. professor cooper who i get to speak to you so often i will say, you know, i wouldn't want to compare something as important as a presidential election to a rap battle, professor. >> okay. >> i wouldn't -- that's just not who i am or what i would want to do. >> let's do it. >> let's do it. sometimes at the end of a real back and forth both sides dap

and walk off the stage, sometimes if you've seen enough battles or movies you'll know sometimes the final verse is so definitive, such an ether that the other person battling doesn't actually speak again, they are never heard from. everyone understands that's the ultimate loss. i wonder in a sense this loud president who we have who has gone so quiet yesterday and today, i wonder if it's that level, professor. >> look, the rap battle that comes to mind, given what kamala and what black women did to bring this man to office, this was nothing short of a sheether. >> brittney cooper gets the last word in this segment with the ether sheether reference. thanks to each of you for kicking us off. we have a clear-eyed look coming up at the legal path donald trump is on and why it's got problems. stay with us. rump is on and why got problems stayit wh us ♪

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obviously he's not -- he's not going to concede when at least 600,000 ballots are in question. i can't tell you exactly what's on the ballot. they conducted themselves in a way that suggests that there was fraud. >> donald trump has not conceded this presidential race. there you have his personal attorney just repeating these baseless claims that somehow there was, quote/unquote, fraud. the problem for donald trump is that he lost. the problem for donald trump is that vice president biden is president-elect and legal experts say there is just no remaining path to undo any of that which may explain some of the president's silence as we were discussing just moments ago. the campaign, though, is technically continuing on with these kind of lawsuits you see here. most of them as we've emphasized in our reporting don't have the possibility of changing the margin of victory, but rather allege different types of

wrongdoing in some key states. some of these suits we should note have already been tossed. in a statement released just minutes after nbc projected joe biden, the president-elect, the trump campaign said it was, quote, prosecuting our case in court and we continue that on monday, which is now tomorrow. we are joined by kristen clarke, president and executive director of the lawyers committee for civil rights under law and will bunch a national columnist for the philadelphia enquirer. good day to both of you. kristen, this is the first day where america wakes up and has a new president-elect and this is settling and it's being absorbed and these suits that remain are almost beneath discussion in the sense that they don't have the prospect of changing the outcome so we have reported that fact and yet are still in the discussion, kristen, because it is unusual to have a sitting president do what he's doing. walk us through what you see

now, which seems to be sounds like them backing off and slowly getting ready to pull the remaining suits, but some of them are still out there. >> well, this was the legal strategy that was under way even prior to election day using the courts and using rhetoric to undermine confidence in the electoral process. and in the outcome of an election. there are 147 million people who have now made their voices heard and we need the president to respect the will of the people. but there are a smattering of lawsuits that have been brought in pennsylvania, nevada and michigan, and many of those cases are quickly falling flat. many of those cases have been put forward without any evidence, without any supporting affidavits or expert reports or the kind of evidence that you would expect to see where you have a sitting president trying to contest the outcome of a federal election that was run

fairly and run with transparency. i will also note that a number of these lawsuits are brought by individual lawyers in small towns and, you know, many of them i'm sure are doing their very best in these cases, but they're immediately getting shot down and you are not seeing the typical kind of leg law firms backing these cases. they are a desperate 11th hour attempt to undermine the will of the people, but at the end of the day the constitution is clear. at noon on january 20th a new president will be sworn in and millions of people have spoken and joe biden will be sworn in as the next president. >> will, we wanted you in this because we felt that the legal issues were not so overwhelming that chris and i couldn't give folks a baseline and we also wanted some plain english, which is this entire thing started with the talk of treason and

traitor and the president claiming that everyone from bill barr and prosecutor durham were going to be arresting people. real authoritarian talk, and it seems to be ending yesterday with all caps tweets. >> yeah, that's right, ari. you know, it's fascinating because you're right, literally for months we've been warned that the way that donald trump was going to stay in the white house was that he was going to cry voter fraud, that he was going to somehow after tuesday night stop the vote counting with his team of lawyers, that possibly ballots would be seized, and, you know, what we're seeing here which is really interesting is that it's really hard to scream voter fraud when there's absolutely no voter fraud. we see that these lawyers are trying to go into court and they really have nothing to base the case on. you know, here in pennsylvania

just about the only legal victory the trump team has won of any kind is that they were allowed to move their observers at the pennsylvania convention center closer to the vote counting. so now instead of being, i forget, it was 30 feet away, now they are six feet away and they're six feet away and they're seeing there's no fraudulent ballots, theres no fraud, everything here is totally legal. in fact, by philadelphia standards this might be the cleanest election that we have ever had. >> will, you mentioned philly in terms of its reputation. >> right. >> that's something that rudy giuliani is out today still sort of -- again, it looks more like freelance tv than, as kristen pointed out, a coordinated strategy with actual lawyers in the right states to do the technical work, but rudy is out again today. take a look. >> given the fact that these ballots came in -- came in late, they were being brought in by bundles, it looked very much like they were trying to make up the 700,000 difference that they

had from election night. for three days they were laboring mightily to make up the 700,000 vote deficit they had in a city that is an epicenter of voter fraud. >> will? >> yeah, i mean, the bundles of votes that he's talking about are the votes, the votes that were legally cast. you know, we had an unusual election in that we historically don't have mail-in voting here in pennsylvania so that's new to us. what was interesting is in the trump campaign signaled its strategy and said that they were going to challenge ballots that came in after tuesday, you know, and given the slowness of the mail there was a potential that that could have been a lot of ballots and those ballots are being segregated because of the supreme court ordered them to be segregated, but what happened is people wised up, you know, elected officials and activists and others told everybody, look,

you know, if it's a week before election day and you have a mika brzezinski don't put it in the mail, go to a drop box. the trump campaign tried to sue to stop these drop boxes from existing but they lost that. so these ballots all came in. we are talking about really just a few thousand late ballots that came in, nothing that could possibly overturn the results in pennsylvania. their strategy has failed on every level. >> will bunch with the straight talk, i want to thank you. kristen who is good for us on so many issues, we're coming back to you in our next hour as well so stay with us. we have to fit in a break, but coming up president-elect joe biden already out with his plans to try to get contained this coronavirus when we come back. get ntcoained this coronavirus when we come back look limu! someone out there needs help customizing their car insurance with liberty mutual, so they only pay for what they need. false alarm. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

our work begins with getting covid under control. we cannot repair the economy, restore our vitality, or relish life's most precious moments, hugging our grandchildren, our children, birthdays, weddings, graduations, all the moments that matter most to us until we get it under control. i will spare no effort, none, or any commitment to turn around this pandemic. >> that is the president-elect of the united states, joe biden, discussing how he's going to take action on this pandemic which has now taken the lives of

240,000 americans. tomorrow joe biden reveals the formal 12-member covid task force before naming even cabinet members as part of his new team. it shows how seriously they view covid as one of the first things to get right and to dig out of a hole as joe biden argued during the campaign, a hole of the crept president's making. joining us now is cardiologist dr. bernard ashby, msnbc contributor dr. kavita patel. good to see you both. dr. ashby, when you see joe biden moving this quickly, what does this tell you on the policy side? >> ari, every time i come on this show i'm always angry and today i'm smiling because we finally have hope. this is finally the silver lining that we've been begging for. from day one i've been pleading and begging for leadership just to do their job and the american

people realize that the leadership was not doing their job, we were begging for a national strategy and we did not get that. as you can see the americans have paid the price, particularly those who are low income, particularly those who are people of color, particularly those who don't have access to health care. you know, a lot of folks seem to think that the vaccines coming out will lead to this virus coming to an end or this pandemic coming to an end and that's not the case. this pandemic was a societal shifting event and america needs to adjust accordingly. so, you know, donald trump failed the biggest test of his presidency and by all metrics you can account for this, i mean, look at china, they have about 5.8 deaths per million. look at south korea, 3 deaths

per million and the u.s. has 384 deaths per machine. that is unacceptable. joe biden has done what we've been asking for from the beginning, come up with a national strategy to contain this virus so that we can go on with our lives. so, yes, i'm happy today, i am hopeful, but i just want to remind the american people that we are actually in the midst of our third and seemingly likely our most dangerous surge. yesterday we had the most cases that we have ever had at any point in this pandemic, my own state of florida is starting to surge as we speak and so biden won't be there in time for this surgery to come to heal, but, you know, at least he's leading by example, he's wearing his mask and setting the tone for the public and this is what we need right now because so many

lives have been lost and it's sad. >> dr. patel, let's take a brief listen to a little more of that historic speech last night where covid was really just a part of the main crux of issues that biden said he's going to lead on because he won on them. take a look. >> they've given us a mandate for action on covid, the economy, climate change, systemic racism. they made it clear they want the country to come together not continue to pull apart. the people spoke. >> doctor? >> yeah, ari, it's pretty clear that the people have spoken and actually to be honest it's not that crazy to ask for a national strategy and from a policy standpoint things like -- and we heard it last night, ari, we heard about rejoining the world health organization, we heard about coming together as a country in the world facing this pandemic, and already, even

before election day, you've heard now president-elect biden and vice president-elect harris talking about mask mandates, making sure access to the affordable care act is not undercut further and restored back to what it was when obama and biden left office. then third i think that there can actually be some important steps done tomorrow. imagine, ari, how many times we've talked about the white house coronavirus task force which has been whittled away to dr. scott atlas propagating this insane idea of herd immunity or the herd mentality the president has. imagine, if you will, ari, tomorrow starting with tomorrow, even though it's just transitional, not even taking office, that we have clear messaging around the science, that we don't have dr. fauci out there by himself talking about the deaths that are -- you know, that we are dealing with today. then imagine if you are a health care professional like me, like bernard, and people are telling you that you are profiting off

of this. the insult. and changing that tone overnight to how health care workers are part of the solution with public health professionals who have also had death threats and been victimized, ari. >> dr. ashby, i'm curious what you think is possible now in public health communication, which is something you're both doing for us so helpfully on this sunday, to get out of the political polarization of the issue. many experts have told us it was unusual and unfortunately to have the president do so much of that for so long, but that could swing in the other direction too far as well, right, if it's seen as somehow, oh, well, wearing a mask is a rebuttal to that past president. no, it's not. it's neither here nor there, it's just what's advised. i'm curious how do you think that challenge goes forward at a time where everyone from joe biden to dave chappelle last night was saying, hey, let's

really make a real effort to come together and not just be hitting back because the election is over? >> well, ari, the tone is changing. i mean, i was on this show the other day and i said that we needed a jazzy jeff the president out of the white house. that was unbecoming, but i was kind of reflecting or mirroring president trump's tone and what biden has done is -- >> doctor, let me -- let me understand. unpack the analogy for us. does that make the president jazz gee jeff and then will smith tossed him out of the house? >> yeah. yeah. so, yeah, the president is jazzy jeff and, you know, it's times like this that we wish uncle phil was still alive, right? we miss him. >> got it. so biden is uncle phil? >> yeah, biden is uncle phil. correct. >> thank you. i needed to get it straight from

you. >> thanks for that clarification. but biden is changing the tone and he's preaching unity. we are americans at the end of the day and, you know, i've said it before, like we need to have a village mentality. we have to support one another not work against each other. that's how we make america great, right? and so in utilizing that type of messaging where we actually exhibit the fact -- exhibit empathy and caring for one another, especially for the vulnerable populations who have suffered disproportionately from this pandemic, particularly people of color who have suffered greatly through this pandemic, like biten actually is striking the right tone. we don't neat sob vitriolic, we don't need to be angry, we just need to communicate and reach across the aisle and explain to folks that, listen, this isn't about each of us as an individual, this is about our communities and our country and we have actually regressed as a

nation compared to other countries due to the fact that we have had this discord with -- amongst ourselves. when you debate things like science, it's terrible. i'm glad that we're reaching a new horizon within the american discourse. it's about time. >> i was limpistening to you an appreciate the higher level you took us to, but i also started wondering on my fresh prince bingo card where the other people fell in. jeffrey the butler, is that eric trump? i don't know. it's your average. >> i haven't taken it that far. >> you haven't taken it that far. >> i haven't taken it that far. at the end of the day i want to strike a positive tone. i mean, listen, i am american, i am proud of our country, i'm proud of what we did on election night and the americans have spoken up. i mean, when you have a attorney general of medicine speaking out against the president that indicates to everyone just how

urgent of an issue it was that our leadership was really failing us as a population. so, again, it's about time and i'm excited. >> i hear you on that, dr. ashby. dr. patel, we give you the last word here. we heard from many people including senator sanders on msnbc this morning saying it was a big election because he felt like democracy itself was on the ballot and people had to think that through, it wasn't a normal choice. a lot of people in your profession also feel with the way this president was comported himself science was on the ballot, too. >> yeah, ari, and i think that that's going to be part of the hard work going forward, just really quickly, we need to -- we need to reinstate faith in science, so break that down and tell me what that means and just go back to basics. the whole time you were talking about the fresh prince i was thinking about mary j. blige, no more drama. put the science in and explain it to the american people, it's what they've been asking for.

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the american story is about slow but steadily widening the opportunities this america and make no mistake, too many dreams have been deferred for too long. we must make the promises of the country real for everybody no matter their race, their ethnicity, their faith, their identity or their disability. >> welcome back to our special coverage of the presidential election. exit polls show that joe biden's decisive victory was powered clearly by voters of color, in particular black voters. 80% of black voters backed the

biden/harris ticket, roughly two-thir two-thirds of latinx and asian went joe biden as well. and with all these millions of people watching around the world, something the president-elect went out of his way to address directly last night. >> i'm proud of the coalition we put together, the broad eest an most diverse in history, democrats, republicans, independents, progressives, moderate, conservatives, young, old, urban, suburban, rural, gay, straight, transgender, white, latino, asian, native american. i mean it. especially those moments and especially those moments where this campaign was at its lowest ebb, the african-american community stood up again for me. you always have my back and i'll have your.

>> that is true, but also a statement by a politician leaning into a certain part of the story. there are other parts to this story that will be important to understand in these days ahead. including understanding the multiethnic coalition that emerges. because look at this, in all groups except white men, donald trump actually still increased his share of the vote, a higher pen percentage of white women, latin x, a higher share than last time. let's go to our panel. jason, your thoughts big picture. >> biden was very smart in shouting out i got a whole bunch

of friends that i didn't have last year, blah, blah, blah, gave them credit, bang down on the table, support black women, et cetera, et cetera, but there is still a lot of work to be done and as of right now, even when i look at these numbers, i still have questions. the political scientist in me has questions. i looked at the emerson exit polls, the "new york times" exit polls, and i just -- i still have doubts that trump could have improved the way he did in so many different communities given the large number of african-americans in particular who voted early, voted by dropoff or rovoted by mailing. i don't know if we're seeing the truest indicator of trump's support. but joe biden still got the majority of black votes and seems like he is in a position to keep that coalition together going forward. >> jason, for our understanding, was that low key reference to drake's "over"? >> it is over for trump.

yes, it is over. >> i thought i heard that. lorella. >> yeah, i think that it is really important that when we talk about the multiracial coalition that delivered and powered a joe biden victory, that we begin to connect that to a governing agenda, that we must in this woman ground and lift the experience of deni deprivat and destitution. especially because of covid, it is exposed. that we cannot return to a normal that never worked. a normal where 40% of americans couldn't afford a $400 emergency bill. that if we want to heal, if we want to continue to have this coalition of multiracial voters come and vote, that we must actually start to transform our country. we must reckon with our history and advance an agenda that works for everyone. that is what this moment is

about. >> yeah. congresswoman, i want it plto p little bit from kamala harris. take a listen. >> my mother who is always in our hearts, when she came here from independent i can india from the age of 19, she probably didn't imagine this moment, but she believed so deeply in america where a moment like this is possible. and so i'm thinking about her and about the generations of women, black women, asian, white, latina, native american wom women, who throughout our nation's history have paved the way for this moment tonight. >> congresswoman, curious what

you thought of that and again, part of our job here is bearing witness to certain things, this was also a choice to have both people on the ticket speak. that is not typically what has been done in these kind of acceptance speeches, victory speeches. >> right. well, this isn't an election like any other election, right? so i'm happy that we were able to see our vice president-elect on the stage last night along with the president-elect. it is a moment that will resonate with so many women of color and young girls across this country. right now there are young girls who will never know what it is like to not have a woman of color as a vice president. and for someone like me who has organized for a long time, i've helped so many campaigns through the years, and this is the first time, yes, that we have a woman of color on the ticket.

democracy won. it was delivered by people of color, and i'm proud that the native vote showed up as well, the native american vote was critical in arizona for example, in many states, but arizona in particular. and look, we owe to ourselves as a country to progress in this way, right? kamala harris has such a different perspective than any other vice president that has ever been elected before in our country's history. she will never forget where she comes from. and i think that is one of the main issues that we all hope for when we have folks who step up to run. because representation truly does matter. and it will matter -- it mattered on this ticket, it will matter in the white house, it will matter moving forward in

all the decisions that president joe biden and vice president kamala harris will make even in the first several weeks. >> and congresswoman, it seems like it is still emotional for you today, is it still sort of sinking in. >> absolutely. well, i'm an emotional person anyway, but seeing her up there last night was absolutely emotional for me. it is what we work for, right? we want to see representation. this country, we are diverse and we should have diverse representation. i'm proud also that -- i should say that, you know, kamala harris inspired so many people across this country. we had a ro recoecord number ofe

americans also running for offices. in fact here in new hex koerks another native woman got elected to the new mexico senate. and so i'm proud of all of us for supporting each other, to making sure that representation is present, and, you know, i vowed to lead the ladder down, that is one of my sincere priorities to make sure that we get more women of color elected to office. >> appreciate you sharing that. our whole panel stays here. errin haines just joined us. your thoughts. >> i just really am struck by congresswoman holland is saying. she was automatic our summt our midterm election and the point

she makes is the point vice president-elect harris was making. she may be the first, but she will not be the last. it means something. certainly to be a trailing bl but only if you continue to keep that door open. know women are the majority of this ehe clectorate and yet underrepresented in our politics. so as a majority of voter, we should have representation and that is it matter for women to see -- and for young girls to see the paths that are possible for themselves in this country. see -- and for young girls to see the paths that are possible for themselves in this country. kamala harris on her way to become the second most powerful person in the country, that was a path before that was not visible to girls, but will now be visible to girls and young women and women going forward. you know, i think the symbolism

of this moment, noting the omission of women of color, black in particular, who fought but did not get it a century o ago, had to fight twice as hard, native american women who railroad not even recognized as citizens in 1920, this is all something that kamala harris brought with you and a lot of the organizers i've talked to said that they hope that she will bring into the white house her experience as a woman and woman of color, they are hoping that that will transplant into policy, not just something that is symbolic but will also translate into substance. >> jason johnson, take a listen to a chaplain from detroit steve bland on this evolution. >> as goes detroit will go michigan. the black vote this detroit is highest as it has ever been and

we'll determine the outcome because we've gone from picking cotton to picking presidents. >> i think it is well-known in the party and to the viewers of this program and in general the role of black voters, but this synergy is black, brown, and diverse representation. so not just in the voting bloc getting the power, but you in exercising power. >> look, from picking cotton to picking presidents is the best t-shirt, best slogan for anybody. that resonated in the black community more than anything else throughout this week. the way he built to it was am e amazi amazing. but i think what is important to remember about this is we have to be very specific about who we're talking about here. and i think that is one of the important stories of this weekend. we have to pay attention in particular to how does the native population work, how did they vote.

when you look at the nation, there are different groups of people. we have to disaggregate our discussions about what it means to be latinx or hispanic. not the same when you are in florida or new mexico, but with the fwrafrican-american communi you are talking about people still as a collective vote democratic as higher rates than any other groups of people. everybody wanted to talk about celebrities who came out and supported trump in the last five minutes and whether donald trump would do better with black men. african-american men voted for joe biden and kamala harris at a higher rate. so we have to be clear that the backbone of the democratic party is black women and black men and that should play a role in how these groups are discussed, the money that goes into supporting people like stacey abrams and in a tanatasha brown.

because that black oig vooc wil necessary. >> and this is brand new footage moments ago, we're looking at president-elect biden heading to church there in wilmington, delaware today. >> yeah, biden is a person of faith. i'm pretty sure that in this moment he is thinking of his seasson beau. he takes moments for himself and for his family. he puts his family first instead of being, you know, on the media, on twitter, playing golf. there you see him, this is our next leader. he is spending time with his family and i think that says a lot. >> and as he is doing that, that is right, the president of the united states is back on the links today, so he golfed yesterday and today which among other things does not reflect or

does not seem to suggest that he is in a legal war room or really focused on or doing things related to what his sort of final tweetstorm suggested which was a lack of a concession and reference to the idea that they will continue trying to pursue cases tomorrow, cases which as we've reported they have the legal right to pursue but won't change the outcome. >> exactly. well, if he's on the golf course, that means that he is not tweeting. this is which is a good thing. but yes, vice president biden, president-elect biden, spending time with his family on a sunday going to church, that is wonderful. he's been president-elect for less than 24 hours and he is already working to getting a coronavirus task force in place to make sure that he can move our country forward. we deserve to have a healthy country and president-elect

biden recognizes that. so he hasn't wasted anytime at all inin moving forward on his priorities and i think that should give us all some comfort that he is not playing golf, he is not lullying his time away, he is getting to business and part of his business is making sure that he is practicing his faith because that is what will keep him strong, that is connected to his family, that is what will make sure that he is happy, that he is grounded, that he is ready to move forward and i trust so much that over even the next several weeks as president-elect, he will work hard for the american people. >> all really fair points. and there is much to be said yesterday, today and the days ahead, we've learned a lot and appreciate the candor of everyone on this panel and this discussing. thanks to each of you as we

start this sunday. we'll fit in a break, new york attorney general latisha james is here and we'll discuss any potential legal issues post-trump presidency. we also have for you right now just a brief selection of some of the thoughts we heard on nbc from dave chappelle hosting snl last night. >> remember when i was here four years ago, remember how bad that felt? remember that half the country right now still feels that way. please remember that. remember that for the first time in the history of america, the life expectancy of white people is dropping because of heroin, because of suicide, all these white people out there that feel that anguish, that pain, mad because they think nobody cares, and maybe they don't. let me tell you something, i know how that feels. i promise you, i know how that feels. if you're a police officer, every time you put european form

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it was my experience that mr. trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes. such as trying to be listed the well anie wealthiest people in s

and deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes. >> it was that testimony before the house oversight committee by michael cohen that launched the probe by the new york attorney general into possible financial i improprieties or crimes with the trump organization. and that is out it started. joe biden is now president-elect. donald trump will become a private citizen in january which removes any legal protections he has as the head of the federal government. but that context, we turn now on this sunday to the attorney general of new york state, latisha james. good day to you. >> good day to you and thank you for having me. >> absolutely. we'll speak with you regarding the particular portfolio and jurisdiction you have, but i'd be he remiss to not ask you as well as a public official what last night means to you. >> listen, you cannot be what

you cannot see. and this morning countless number of little girls and little boys and all individuals will see kamala harris the first woman of color serve as our vice president. and they will serve a president who is focusing on his faith, his family, and focusing on justice and focusing on again restoring democracy to our country. president biden will renight our country and the reality is that 70 million people voted for president trump and at this point in time we need to really heal our country. it is critically important. we are more divided now since the civil war. and it is important that individuals understand that we have more in common than not. so we need a president and a vice president who will heal the divide, heal the breach, bring us all together.

focusing on issues of commonalty, focusing on issues such as again addressing covid-19 because a quarter of a million people have died from this pandemic, focusing on a stimulus package because countless number of individuals are struggling right now to put food on their table. and focusing on an infrastructure bill which will put people back to work, focusing on this opoid epidemic which has killed too many individuals who are suffering from this addiction. we need to bring our country together. and i believe that joe biden given his experience, given his empathy, begin all that he has gone through, he is the right person for the job. and i'm so honored and privileged to have supported him and vice president kamala harris. >> appreciate that. and reflecting on that with you. and when kamala harris became d.a. and then attorney general in california, she was the first black woman to hold that position.

now she's broken this barrier. you are another person who among your other talents and role happen to also be a woman of color in one of these types of positions which is not where american law has always been. so that turns to the powers that you have now. many people are wondering especially because when you ran as a candidate, you talked about donald trump and the issues in law and order and his potential improprietie improprieties. do you have anything going on here in new york in these cases where donald trump is a private citizen and has additional legal liability? >> the investigations that we currently have against the trump organization will continue. the outcome of the election will have no impact on our investigations. and so we will continue our investigations again related to the testimony of michael cohen that you played. it is important that individuals understand that no one is above the law. and that our investigations have nothing to do with politics but more to do with the facts and

the law as we see it and as we analyze it. so our investigation will continue. >> when you say no one is above the law though, we have seen other administrations where former presidents have had legal problems, but never an ex-president. do you see a world where this ex-president might face an indictments somewhere in the country? >> our investigation is primarily civil in nature. the criminal investigation is being conducted by the district attorney of manhattan, mr. vance. and we'll continue our investigation against financial imrow pri improprietie improprieties. again, no one is above the law and we'll just follow the facts and the evidence wherever they lead us. >> understood. an update on that and as well as your views on what last night meant, i want to thank attorney general of new york james.

>> and what is ironic, philadelphia where the constitution was once signed is the state and the county which sealed the fate of a president who unfortunately engaged in so much lawlessness. it is critically important that individuals understand that and recognize that again, we will restore the dignity, integrity of the united states of america and we will resume our place on the world stage. thank you so much. >> thank you, a fitting thought there. we'll fit in a break and be right back with michael ♪ ♪ ♪ this is the feeling of total protection now that we protect your identity, and mobile phone, as well as auto home and life you've never been in better hands allstate

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good day, i'm arrei melber. continuing with this thought, president trump is one of only ten american presidents to be rejected by voters after one term. after these four years, what does the legacy mean and how does this defeat change forever you how trump will be remembered in american history?

many have reflected on that in anticipation of a potential loss, but today we wake up with one and we have our historian michael beschloss, author of" presidents of war" among other works. good morning to you sir. >> hi, ari. i'm in washington, d.c., whether is beautiful here. hope it is where you are. >> yeah, it is a nice sunday. >> first full day of the biden era. >> we wake up and this is the day where everyone wakes up and it is absorbed and it is real and the president-elect is going to church,s t the outgoing president is on the golf course, the fears that the democracy would go through some testing over these days or weeks, we're reporting out for everyone that is not happening. the president is golfing and tweeting in all caps. but there is no other great abuse of power or problem that we see on the horizon here,

reminder of how democracy can hold. but when you look at donald trump being the loser, he lost this race, where does this put him among other one term presidents? >> well, there have been other one term presidents, maybe four earlier ones in the last sent chir seventh ch century, but every one has been graceful in defeat. why would you expect him to be graceful when he hasn't in the last four years. reports are that he will never concede and he will spend the rest of his life claiming that it was stolen from him, maybe at county fairs if he is lucky. but if you look at herbert hoover who lost because of the will great depression, was blamed for it, defeated by

franklin roosevelt, had a distinguished public career later on. gerald ford immediately conceded to jimmy carter 1976 when he lost largely over the nixon pardon and big goof in a debate. and jimmy carter with hostages and recession immediately called ronald ray began aeagan and sai the best transition in history. and george w. bushes same thing during economic problems said i will cooperate with bill clinton. and he did what all modern presidents who were defeated have done in the modern era with the gross exception of donald trump which is not only to concede, but invite the new president and his wife to the white house along with his own wife, show them through. that is something that usually calls the nation's nerves, unifies us. but as has been so often during the last 3 1/2 years, we are in

uncharted territory. >> and i'll tell viewers we're keeping an eye on the golf course where the president is golfing, so we have footage of that coming in. but again, a reminder of what for him has been a normal weekend, golfing both days but not doing anything else. i want to also look at the time when we're told everything is quite polarized, the margin here in the total vote share for biden, but that is still coming in, but people will see that it is over 50%, which is a pretty commanding national mandate, that is obviously higher than trump who had second in the 46% behind hillary in the total vote. but if you look down the chart, you will see that the obama years, obama seen as having built a real big cocoalition, higher but just a point or two. you go back further, and you see the biden vote share as it comes in total is also higher than

anything clinton got, higher than, you know, those other periods. and so you take it together and you see that joe biden's numbers are high in the last 30 years and that trump's were low both times including the time when the electoral college got him in in '16. >> trump was always a minority president, never got above 50 in almost any poll and certainly didn't in those two elections. and our system is not perfect. and one of the imperfections is that presidents can sneak into office with a minority of the popular vote which happened in the last 20 years twice. and also you can be in a situation where you can try to govern for nearly four years as candidate did and pre-tent that y that you are a president of maybe 45% of people and ignore the rest. that is not what the founders intended and anybody who saw

last night knows that joe biden understands that it is his responsibility to be president of all the people. >> yeah, it is really something. and michael, i will just on behalf of us here at the an consider desk, getting your thought, your warnings, the bigger picture of america over the whole ride of this race has been something, so i'm glad you could join us today. >> thank you. right back at you always. >> thank you. michael beschloss. we fit in a quick break, but coming up, the trump exit plan, how will it really go down. so m. maria had to do everything for me. she had these awful blisters on her back. i don't want shingles when i'm your age. actually, if you're 50 or older, you're at increased risk that's life, nothing you can do... uh, shingles can be prevented. shingles can be whaaaat? prevented. you can get vaccinated. where? at your pharmacy, your doctor's - hold on! don't want to go through that! 50 years or older? get vaccinated for shingles. now.

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the people have spoken and we respect the majesty of the democratic system. i just called governor clinton and offered my con glats lagrac. he did run a strong campaign and i wishl him we him well in the house. >> the american people have spoken clearly. a little while ago i had the honor of calling senator barack obama to congratulate him -- [ boos ] >> please. to congratulate him on being elected the next president of the country that we both love. >> last night i con grep gr gre donald trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. i hope that he will be a successful president for all americans. >> throughout the history of our

democracy, public officials take the position that there is no shame in losing a hard-fought campaign. indeed there is pride in how you handle it. just one more small way that donald trump's time in office is breaking other traditions. there is no indication that this president will concede or formally say much. yesterday or today, to the new president-elect joe biden. biden's campaign staff has been quite clear though, this week saying the united states government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the white house if it ever became necessary. we turn now to rosa brooks from georgetown university law center, and also christine clark from lawyers committee for civil rights under law. thanks to both of you for joining us. >> great to be here. >> thank you. >> kristin, seeing just that brief footage reminds us even in

very hard-fought battles that donald trump is different and he is the loser today, he lost yesterday, but he shows no indication of coming out to do anything like that. >> no, i was watching mccain concession speech just a day ago, such a remarkable speech because those concession speeches help to kind of set the stage. and kind of move the country forward. and i thought that mccain's words were incredibly heartfelt and unifying. and that is exactly what we need right now. we are a nation deeply guidivid a nation wrestlihere he irestli supremacy, and we need to heal those wounds. so the longer president trump carries out this protracted league battle, these frivolous legal challenges which are

failing left and right, you know, i think that it gets us off to a bad start in 2021. we need a peaceful transition of power. the senate actually took a step and passed a bipartisan resolution saying that there would be a peaceful transition of power, but we've seen silence from many leaders in the senate who have yet to speak up. at the end of the day, elections are the heartbeat of democracy and voters in every corner of our country have spoken. and overcome tremendous obstacles this season to ensure that their voices were heard. they endured long lines, they endured painful hours of wait times at the polls, they went out on election day sometimes putting their health and safety at risk in order to exercise the right to vote. and we need to respect the will of the people, they have spoken and they have resoundingly determined that mr. biden is the

victor in this election and it is time for president trump to concede that point. >> rosa, given your work in how the government functions and the space between what is required and what is prudential but helpful to civil society, what do you make of all this today now that it is no longer in the speculative zone, we see the president lost, he is the loser of this race and he won't address that. >> that is absolutely right. everything kristin said is 100% right. and this race was not in the end close. you know this, is not a situation where it is like florida in 2000 where it is all coming down to a few hundred ballots. the choice of the voters is reboundingly clear. and if we hadn't had so many ballots mailed in because of the pandemic, because of president trump's politicization of the pandemic and efforts to claim that mail-in ballots were fraudulent with no evidence, if

those ballots had been counted first, people would have been saying as of tuesday late night or wednesday early morning, wow, biden won and it ain't even close. what president trump is trying to do with all this litigation, it is just noise. just thrrying to throw up smoke. kristin, i'm sure you remember from law school professors coming up with a ridiculous scenario and saw say can you sue, and people would say no, but no, you can sue for anything but you will get thrown out of court. he is all over in every swing state trying frivolous litigation and he is losing and losing. and his goal frankly i think is not to win, he knows he can't win because in dourcourt unlike facebook or twitter, you actually have to make arguments and you have to have evidence. and when you don't have that,

you get tossed out. his goal here is to try to change the narrative to one in which there is a false claim that it wasn't close. good news is that at the end of the day, it does not matter if he concedeoncedes. i think most americans and most members of congress understand joe biden won and on january 20 joe biden will get sworn in and if he doesn't feel like leaving of his own accord, the secret service will escort him out. i'm sure they will be polite, but they still escort him out. >> we're looking at footage of joe biden having exited church as he wakes up as president-elect of the united states. and this is happening live, so we're seeing what you are seeing as we get it. it appears that the president-elect was in the cemetery adjacent to the church there. we see what you see. so we could get him for a minute

there as he walked around and moved outside of the wing of one of our cameras. but it is just a contrast today, kristin, with the current president golfing for the second day in a row, posting all caps tweets, which don't support or correspond to his actions. if he was really doing something to try to have a national legal strategy, he would go do that. and he's not. he's golfing. that is the footage there. meanwhile the president-elect focused on the coronavirus task force and announcements on that already today, not waiting a single day to start preparatory work, going to church to pray, and appearing -- again, we always stress what we know and don't know, but it looked like appearing to also spend a few quiet moments in the cemetery. kristin. >> there is a lot of work to do to rebuild and reconstruct our

country. it is not a moment to play golf. i think about the pandemic and its continued grip on the nation. these periods of transition are incredibly important because throughout our nation's history, outgoing presidents have helped support and passed that baton smoothly to incoming presidents. and this moment, that is especially critical. we are in crisis when it comes to the state of our economy, when it comes to the state of race relations, when it comes to a pandemic when we're continuing to hit new records in terms of cases an deaths. and we know that the incoming leadership are already starting to think about those issues. and they need the support of the outgoing president to ensure for the american public a smooth transition of power on january 20th. you know, this president is one who started off his tenure with bold proclamations about vote fraud and he ends his tenure

with those same false claims. it is time for us to move forward and for president trump to concede power and to acknowledges will of the people. >> rosa. >> yeah, i think that president trump on his way out will have as many temper tantrums as possible, he will sulk and make us think that he should start a new tv show called the sorest loser. he will try to put road blocks in the way of the transition team. i think that we have to expect that, but i also think that for the american people, this is an emperor has no clothes moment. i'm sure you remember that story. finally ends up walking around naked and one little boy whispers, the emperor has no clothes and everybody goes you're right. trump has never had any clothes. he has been a fraud as a president, he's never taken

seriously the obligations of that office ever. and he continues as kristin said to not take them seriously. joe biden is getting ready to govern, president trump is playing golf and sulking. with we'll continue to see that, but i think that the biden team will just keep working, they will pay no attention to him and most americans are like yeah, why did we ever pay attention to that fraud. and that is donald trump and how he will be remembered. >> rosa brooks, kristin clark, thank you so much. beal fit in a break and when we come back, we have something very special planned for you, an in-depth look at exactly what kamala harris just told the nation, when we return.

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vice president-elect joe biden is now in front of everyone. we've been following him going to church while the president is on the golf course, but the other major piece in history as we've also reflected on is the new vice president-elect kamala harris. we've heard from many reflecting on what it means. now we want to hear ymore from how she put it, the vice president-elect. take a listen. >> we are so grateful to joe and jill for welcoming our family into theirs on this incredible journey and to the woman most responsible for himy presence he today, my mother shyamala who is always in our hearts. when she came here from india at the age of 19, she maybe didn't quite imagine this moment. but she believed so deeply in an

america where a moment like this is possible. and so i'm thinking about her and about the generations of women, black women, asian, white, latina, native american wom women, who throughout our nation's history have paved the way for this moment tonight, women who fought and sacrificed so much for equality and liberty and justice for all. including the black women who are often, too often, overlooked but so often prove that they are the backbone of our democracy. all the women who have worked to secure and protect the right to

vote for over a century, 100 years ago with the 19th amendment, 55 years ago with the voting rights act. and now in 2020 with a new generation of women in our country who cast their ballots and continued the fight for their fundamental right to vote and be heard. struggle, their determination, and the strength of their vision to see what can be unburdened by what has been. and i stand on their shoulders. and what a testament it is to joe's character that he had the audacity to break one of the most substantial barriers that exists in our country and select a woman as his vice president. [ cheers ]

but while i may be the first woman in this office, i will not bell the last. because every little girl watching tonight sees that this is a country of possibilities. and to the children of our country, regardless of your gender, our country has sent you a clear message -- dream with ambition, lead with conviction, and see yourselves in a way that others may not simply because they've never seen it before. but know that we will applaud you every step of the way. [ cheers ]

and to the american people, no matterpe who you voted for, i wl strive to be a vice president like joe was to president obama -- loyal, honest, and prepared, waking up every day thinking of you and your family because now is when the real work begins, the hard work, the necessary work, the good work, the essential work to save lives and beat this epidemic. to rebuild our economy so it works for working people, to root out systemic racism in our justice system and society, to combat the climate crisis, to unite our country and heal the soul of our nation. and the road ahead will not be easy, but america is ready.

and so are joe and i. [ cheers ] we have elected a president who represents the best in us, a leader the world will respect and our children will look up to. a commander in chief who will respect our troops and keep our country safe, and a president for all americans. >> america is ready. you heard it last night in that historic speech from vice president-elect kamala omharris. we're joined now by erin haines from the 19th who conducted one of then senator harris' first interviews when she was added to the ticket. as we take this in, i imagine for many viewers hearing it for a second or third time, but

we've heard from guests today that many, many people will be watching this many times for inspiration in the years ahead in america. >> yeah, ari. you know, madam vice president-elect harris told me in that first t interview after she became the nominee, she talked about the audacity of joe biden choosing her to be his running matebe and what that meant, the risknd that he was taking even as she was as qualified, capable, and talented as anybody who had come before her if not more so. you know, representation matters, and what can be unburdened by what has been i think isas going -- it is the foundational story of this country, a democracy carved literally out of the wilderness, and yet that is an ideal that is, you know, still has yet to become real for every american, and kamala harris got us one

step closer to that as she heads into being the second most-powerful person in the country. i mean, she talked about the example of her mother who was -- my own mother who is still alive, still in atlanta, was very much on my mind, you know, during this election. this is a woman who registered to vote in high school in georgia. you know,h right before the voting rights act was -- was made real. and she never misses an election. you know, this is somebody who instilled in me the promise of voting, you know, because of the black women who came before me. i realized that journalism and political journalism was a path that ina could take. and so i know that it matters to be a trailblazer but also to bring others behind you along and to have somebody who looks like you in these roles of power and influence. it absolutely matters. >> what do you think will be the challenge in the days -- i'm sorry, i'm -- i thought i had time forth one more question, b

i don't. we're going to keep up the convos. erin haines been with us for more than one segment today. appreciate you. >> i appreciate you, ari, thank you so much. >> thank you. and thanks to you at home for watching. that is "a.m. joy." appreciate you watching. i'll be back tonight for election coverage at 7:00 p.m. eastern, two hours tonight. hope t you'll join me then and hope you keep it locked on msnbc because alex witt is up next. did you know you can go to libertymutual.com to customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? really? i didn't-- aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ irresistibly smooth chocolate. ♪

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good day, everyone. from msnbc world headquarters here in new york, we're approaching high noon in the east. 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome, everyone, to "weekends with alex witt" and a series of dramatic developments in these hours since joe biden became president-elect. new today the president departing the white house just a short time ago one day after he saw throngs in the streets celebrating his loss and soon an alarming new milestone for the country at this hour. the u.s. nearing ten million confirmed coronavirus cases. right now there are more than 9,950,000, more than 238,000 americans have died, and president-elect biden's team announcing plans to work to combat that virus right away. >> on monday, we will announce the covid task force, if you will, that will operationalize the biden/harris campaign plan to address covid