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good evening and welcome to politics nation. tonight's lead, divided we stand united. >> it is time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again. listen to each other again. >> and the road ahead will not be easy, but america is ready and so are joe and i.

>> i am honored to be coming to you on a historic sunday night after a day that the lord surely made president joe biden confirmed to be the projected winner of the 2020 election, returns from several late states sealing the deal as he shattered the electoral vote threshhold to the relief of the world saturday. his soon to be partner in the white house, kamala harris, smashes dual ceilings to become the first black woman, the first south asian woman to become vice president elect you have the united states. in addition at this hour more than 4 million more americans cast ballots for joe biden over president trump. a few states remain undeclared tonight, but that hasn't stopped the national or the global party over president trump's defeat.

this would not be politics nation if i did not exclaim that mr. biden's continental victory was made singularly possible by people of color, black political activists from stacscey abrams d barak obama. dramatic wins in the southwest in the end donald trump had a big name, a bigger mouth and a base limited by race. joe biden had a multiracial coalition and enough of a name that enough americans trusted. yes, more than 70 million americans voted to give donald trump a second term. i am not immune to that disturbing fact this week and neither is the president elect. but i always saw it for what it

always was, the desperation by some of an addict. like any addict trump's base was always going to reup on his drug of choice. in this case, easy answers defined by racism. but for the sake of the nation, more than 75 million americans led by voters of color chose a sober course giving joe biden the largest vote tally in the history of the country and the widest popular vote margin since that of his former boss, barak obama, more than a decade ago. he will need the support to face down the surging coronavirus threat coupled with an economy tilting into the holiday season with millions out of work and a white supremacist terrorist movement vice president elect

kamala harris. but to the last part i am congratulating her and proud to join my late mother and countless black women and say get over it. joining me now is the chairwoman of the congressional black caucus representative karen bass. madam chairman, let me show you something first and let me get your response. listen to my interview with joe biden. right here from may right here on politics nation where he was still debating who his pick would be for running mate. you have black women in the campaign. simone sanders and others.

the sensitivity that we have is whoever is selected that black women clearly seen as qualified to be vice president. we had sarah palin but never had a black woman. >> i really do understand that al. that is why i assure you of the more than a dozen women we are taking a look at there is significantly more than one black woman we will be looking at. >> that was early and i was pressing him privately and publicly for a black woman. ultimately he had a committee and they chose kamala harris. you as one of the most distinguished and prominent black women in government, how did you feel when your fellow californian and fellow black woman, kamala harris, became the

first black woman and south asian woman in history to win and to assume that office? >> you know, last night was a glorious evening. i thought they were both spectacular. she especially was. also the glass ceiling. i think all of us were elated. it was wonderful when they panned the crowd and you saw the girls looks up there sitting next to their mothers. i think it is a major historical moment and i will tell you in california, i am getting text messages asking me for inaugural tickets to see our own being sworn in. from a black caucus perspective, the second member we have sent to the white house. a president and now a vice president. we are feeling really good right now. >> five states from alabama to

rhode island voted this past week to remove racist language or symbols or in the case of nebraska and utah, provisions allowing for slavery as a criminal punishment in 2020 and mississippi voted to take confederate emblems off of the state flag. there was the protest we had. we know the harm the trump era has done racially. what do you take away from the development, even in red states? >> i think it is fantastic and we have to move on the building of the movement after the murder of george floyd. we have been at this for a long time working on police related issues. i don't know if you recall a time where there was a murder, and we have seen so many that

was elevated to the point that people finally got it. i feel we are at that point in our country and thank god we will have a new administration to address systemic racism. >> right there is where i wanted to go before we run out of time. as we address it, and you and i have been at it for a long time. if we are going to get it done, legislation, and really deal with it, they are going to have to reach over the aisle in some areas we never have been able to penetrate. we saw a lot of people that got it this time after george floyd. are we going to have enough maturity to let you and others try to get some people who may not have gotten it better come to help us make the changes and do not gloat in victory but get

things done. the families of the victims that i work with. they want justice. the people that have lost loved ones to covid-19 want to see a remedy. are we going to get people the room and the victory to try to bring people over to say look, we need to put left and right aside and get something done. people are suffering. >> a lot of that depends on january 5th and us winning the two senate seats. we don't know the extent to which the senators will cooperate with senators biden and harris. but we don't know that. i don't want to risk that. i will tell you, 24/, every moment we have to be focused on the two senate seats. the worst thing in the world is

the glorious victory of biden and harris stymied by a senate that will be focused on blocking everything they do. remember what mcconnell said when obama won. he would do everything he could to make sure that his presidency failed. 200,000 people are dead. we have to move the country forward. >> you said you got a lot of calls from california asking you when you were going to won. we go way back and even have the same birthday. tell me, are you going to run for the senate seat? the seat will be vacant as of january 20. >> let me just tell you that running for the senate seat is not an option because the governor appoints. i know the governor is under discussion right now and probably is in hiding from everybody that is on his door for that seat.

i am just so excited about moving forward and moving and turning this page in history. >> all right. governor newsom, you might have heard she did not say she would turn it down. thank you congresswoman karen bass. now tom perez, democratic chair of the national committee. you swept the house. now you have won the white house. you lost some congressional seats and didn't take the senate. according to nbc news exit polls and early election day voters, 87% of black voters went for biden in addition to 2/3 of hispanic and asian voters. you have to credit grassroots in the south and the southwest for much of that. look to the future of the party. what lessons has the dnc learned

on race and specifically areas that they were not penetrating before, and what have you learned from the cycle chairman perez? >> we have to be an every year, everywhere party. back to 2017, we started out with 15 democratic governors in january 2017. we didn't have the house. we didn't have the senate. we had very few state houses in terms of houses of reps in state senates. now we have 24 governors. the u.s. house and an opportunity in georgia. we lost some seats in the u.s. house. they were tough seats. oklahoma, we won in 2018. it was a tough one there to have a rematch. it bears repeating that the coalition of folks here across

the country. 80% of latino voters in arizona to give you one example, voted for joe biden. 80% of the record denominator. that fusion coalition in arizona is what carried joe biden to what i think will be a victory there. same thing in georgia. african-americans, latinos and asian americans. she built a remarkable coalition. >> in newt gingrich's old district. >> she won her re-election and it shows you what is happening in georgia. that old commercial, this is not your father's olds mobile. this is not your father's georgia. it is a remarkable georgia.

one of the reasons that we did a debate down there in georgia and were planning a debate in march in arizona, that moved because of the virus. we saw in 2017 the future of opportunity was definitely in arizona and in georgia. and that fusion coalition, you know, such kudos to stacey abrams and others. we had great success. we also have to do more work. there is no doubt about it. you climb up the mountain, never it is a linear path. we know we have more work to do. i think that we can win state-wide in alabama and in mississippi if we make it a sustained investment in organizing african-american voters in those states. we didn't make it to the mountain top this time but i am not giving up. we must be a 50 state party.

jamie harrison had a spectacular run in south carolina. we have to keep organizing down there. i think we can win. we can't be a pop-up operation. we are not anymore. we have become a 50-state party. >> how do we deal with it. the reports that some of the moderates are accusing the progressives of causing some defeats of some of the congratulational seats because of the slogan defund the police. is there a riveff in the party d how do we keep a party together that may disagree but that really understands that people want answers. people didn't stand in line to take sides on which side of the party or the policy stuff you are on. they want the policies enacted that will solve their problem. people are dying of covid-19 as

we speak. >> and joe biden won the election because he has answers and plans to deal with the issues that matter the most to people. tomorrow he will be announcing his coronavirus task force. he is doing it now. you look at our platform and it is a really bold and progressive platform and everybody came together around it. we know we have to solve problems for people. i am confident that we can do that. nothing is ever easy, but i think joe biden, i think we will make tremendous progress on the coronavirus, our economy, civil rights and climate. dreamers have hope as a result of what happened this week. that is one of so many examples

of how we are going to address people's problems and improve peoples lives and bring our nation together. that is what we must all strive for. you know, i told folks take the weekend off and it is all hands on deck for georgia. >> all right. all i am saying is that i love the fact he is talking about healing. don't forget that you can't heal by leaving the engine out of the room. that is what we are healing the engine. >> i think people understand that. speaker pelosi, i think, the most impactful speaker in american history. she has brought our caucus together and will continue to do that. >> all right. tom perez chair of the dnc. thank you for being with us. now a former aide to president

obama, first i want to go to paul smith, an attorney with campaign legal center. paul, the trump campaign has filed multiple lawsuits in georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, nevada. any of these likely to make a difference? >> you know, thanks for having me on. i can try to follow the cases for the last five days and one seems less important than the next. there is nothing in the cases that looks like the kind of case that can affect the outcome in one state or let alone nationally. we saw it yesterday that they are going to be in court monday morning proving the election is not over and that the wrong person has been named the winner. they have these claims of fraud

but no substance. they have never shown us anything. >> in the filings you have looked at in the five states, there is no evidence to support their claim of fraud or there were misdeeds done that would lead to change the vote tally as we are getting it or change the process in which they were received. >> there are claims that officials made mistakes about how they operated things that have potential impacts that are very, very small. nothing that looks like it account possibly make a difference in the outcome of the election. most of it is like how close are the observers in the counting room or was it okay in nevada to use a machine to match the signatures on the absentee ballots instead of the naked eye. these cases are truly small

potatoes. hire all of the lawyers you want. if they don't have facts or law they can't do anything with it. >> let me go now to the panel. former aide to president obama. give us the significance of what the vote means and the fact that this president elect has said that we have to heal and that he says his opponents are not his enemies and that we are all-americans. do you think that some on the other side of the aisle in the senate and the house and some that maybe eaven voted for president trump going to accept his olive branch? >> i essential hope so.

i think that it is incumbent on all of us to recognize that it is important for us to deliver a senate that he can work with and that he can unquestionably work with. that is why i was pleased to hear tom perez say the democratic party won't be the pop-up party and that it will be consistent and that wiit will double down on florida. i already reached on out to say what can i do to make sure the senate run off races, how can we ensure victory there. we need a sustained effort. because all of the good will in the world may not work. so we need to ensure there is a democratic victory and get to the two run off races leading to

a victory for the democrats in the senate. >> brendan, republicans have not come out in full force and said to this president look, we have a democracy. people voted. you lost. why are you doing this. i have not heard any prominent republicans calling his hand on this and say concede. in 16 beating hillary clinton. she waited a day or so and conceded. two days after it was announced president obama had him in the oval office and made a visual transition of power. will any republican leadership, in your opinion, stand up to say mr. president, enough is enough. we are going into the third day

and can't just keep filing frivolous lawsuits. the process and the country is bigger and it deserves more than that. >> first of all, is anybody surprised donald trump is acting this way? this is the most predictable thing that could happen. the reason that republicans are not coming out to concede the race, the president himself hasn't conceded the race. republicans are not doing is giving any credibility to the claims they are making. you know, republicans, we are supposed to be against frivolous lawsuits and that feels like what is going on. a punch of senators went out and they basically talked about the president in the past tense. everybody understands, this is not a normal person or a rational person. he is an overgrown child and voters have taken away his toys.

this is his version of crying. he will have to cry it out for a while. basically it does not matter. we are going to move on. joe biden is going to be president. it will take him longer to figure that out. frankly he will talk about the election was stolen from him for the rest of his life. but the reality is that republicans understand that there is nothing to this. they are going to let him cry it out and we will move on. >> all right. stick around. coming up, the black vote ands it influence on president elect joe biden's decisive victory. we will be right back. biden's dy we will be right back. - [announcer] your typical vacuum has bristles that can leave cleaning gaps and wrap hair. so shark replaced them with flexible power fins to directly engage floors and dig deep into carpets. pick up more on every pass with no hair wrap. shark vertex with duoclean power fins.

the american experiment began in philadelphia with a group of white men enshrining the oppression of black people in the instituticonstitution.

even after state sanctioned murder at the hands of this country, the votes of black people in philadelphia, atlanta, detroit and beyond ensured that american democracy will live to fight another day. joining me now is that latasha brown and melanie brown of the black womens roundtable. melanie, you have a national infrastructure at work for years but it was certainly out around the country getting people out to vote this year. what do you think and what kind of energy were you getting back from your staff and field directors that told you early? because you were telling us in the civil rights community early this will be a huge turn out. >> thank you rev. good to see my sister latasha

brown. it started down when we were in south carolina. i was there with you. we saw it with what i called the sisters, the church ladies. the energy was there that early. in the south especially. black women decided this is going to -- that biden was going to be the candidate. at the end of the day black women already decided we knew this was an election that had to be about safety and security for our communities. it was about life and death. organizers. black women, we are not just a vote. those that turned out in georgia, alabama, mississippi and then turned it out in the general election. you have got sisters like my sister on the show, deborah scott. helen butler. felicia davis, you go to

michigan. in georgia you raised her from a babe. >> we are everywhere. let me ask you something, everybody knows that by social media and everything that i am known to work hard. i get up early, before dawn, work out every morning. the joke now is that people tell me you got up 4:00 and worked out. latasha was up by 3:00. i never have seen anyone showing more energy than me. you have been all over the place. i think a lot of the turn out is what you have done. you have been on the bus hitting cities and you have been on the ground. you had to be elated when you saw the turn out that we saw with the numbers that were calculated. the biggest in history. >> absolutely. what i also want to say is that in addition to the founder of black voters matter, i am also a part of black womens roundtable

and worked along with melanie campbell for a number of years that we have been working in the south. there was little sleep the last couple of months. as a matter of fact this is long-term organizing. black women like melanie campbell would continue to support us in our leadership. this is a result of years of work. years of relationship building. years of building the infrastructure. we saw the fruits of our labor. this was a moment and i wish i could say that i would be rested but we have these two senate seats coming up. i will be able to sleep by valentines day. >> now melanie, the priority issues, because i know you do a lot of research on the ground. >> right. >> the priority issues that black women are saying that they want solved. this is not just a fan club for

joe biden or kamala harris. this was around interest. what are they wanting to see they want to see tackled? >> to eradicate structural racism. the number one issue. number one issue as people were leaving the polls, number one issue was dealing with structural racism in the country. dealing with eradicating covid-19. it had an impact on want community. addressing policing and criminal justice reform. things that have to deal with safety and security. that is the number one issues. affordable health care. economic issues are there. if you can't live, economics does not make a difference. those are the things that black women say they want to have the candidates address. the congress address. cash that check for that volt we

gave to joe biden and kamala harris. >> the covid-19, the fact that we have a pandemic changed campaigning this year. how were you able to do what you have done on a grassroots level even in the fact that we were in the midst of a pandemic and you will do so, you just said, for the senate run-offs. how are you dealing with the fact that you have to balance out the safety of you and your workers and at the same time be conscious we are in a pandemic. >> i do think that it goes back to organizers and previous relationships we had. this year we were able to support over 600 grassroots organizations in 15 states, many which we have been building with over the years. georgia, 45 organizations that we were building with them the last three years. we have to tap into the networks and we have to be creative. we have to create caravans instead of going door to door

canvassing, strengthen the organizations on the ground, we used qr codes, we had to use a lot of digital work as well. part of what gave us an advantage is that we had to tap into the existing networks and really be able to invest in them to be able to get the word out. >> all right. thank you both. we will be hearing a lot from you all between now and the run-off. we have breaking news related to covid-19. the number of new confirmed single day cases of coronavirus in the u.s. has once again hit an all-time record high. just now the u.s. crossed over 10 million cases and over 239,000 have died. and over 239,000 have died. coming up next, the blue wall is back and film maker michael moore is here to tell us how it happened. is here to tell us how happened trelegy for copd.

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president elect joe biden rebuilt the blue wall in the midwest winning michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania after president trump took them in 2016. biden was able to flip the states blue. well, as mr. trump failed to flip any state. but now the blue wall has been rebuilt. what comes next? what comes with me now is michigan native film maker, michael moore. mr. moore, you were with us before the election. what is your initial takeaway when you heard that some of your home state of michigan flipped back to blue? this is a state where we have militia groups. talking about kidnapping the governor. we have all kinds of

shenanigans. yet biden was able to win. your senator, gary peters, the democrat, was able to win. what is your reaction? >> utter elation. i think all of us in michigan have had to suffer through the embarrassment of it being red four years ago feel very good now. i think that i can say for myself that i am mostly grateful to what put michigan and pennsylvania and wisconsin over the top was the black vote. black detroit delivered and black flint delivered michigan for joe biden as did black philly as did black milwaukee and young people. if you look at the map of michigan, biden won michigan by winning about 80 counties there in michigan. biden won 11 of them.

the i-75 of flint, pontiac, detroit, et cetera. and then the places where there are large college towns where there are young people. ann arbor, lansing, that area. the little bit of where i live up in northwestern michigan. they all went blue as did a very strong old school union piece of the upper peninsula. so, that is how it happened. it happened the same way in pennsylvania, milwaukee, black atlanta is delivering georgia. and hispanic nevada and arizona is delivering those two states. i don't want it to get lost in the discussion how people of color, young people, and women made this victory happen. joe biden said it last night,

thanking the black community for having his back. and then he said i will have yours. >> that is what i want to show. let me show you exactly what he said. i never heard a presidential winner say this. >> our nation is shaped by the constant battle between our darkest impulses and what presidents say in the battle matters. it is time for our better angels to prevail. >> i was going to play the clip when he said african-americans had my back and i will have theirs. many of us are going to make sure that is the case. we have seen in michigan, as i have said the militia groups and the other far right wing groups. what do you think as donald

trump comes out with these frivolous lawsuits and all. what happens in states like your home state? what happens to these groups? do you worry they are going to be agitated or do you think there can be a way that people move forward? >> like i said on the show a few weeks ago. their bark is bigger than their bite. don't be afraid of any bully. the people on the right, joe biden is not going to take away your guns. you don't have to be worried about whatever it is you are worried about and in fact you should rejoice. joe biden is going to work for universal health care for everyone, including you. he is going to expand the family

leave act. that will help you. everything that he is going to do and most importantly starting tomorrow with the covid task force, he is going to make sure that your parents and your grandparents are not going to die from the disease, this virus. these are all good things regardless of whether you are a democrat or you are a republican. and my question, and i will ask you this because we often talk about the spiritual part of this. and -- joe biden last night said that we have to heal. i agree with that. we have to love our neighbor. we have to love our enemy. but when healing takes place, sometimes it does not have to be a two-way street because the people that have been abused, whether it is the babies ripped out of their mother's arms and put in cages or the dreamers having to suffer through the four years, thinking they might

be removed from the country. go down the list of the people that suffered at the hands of donald trump. what are they required to do? >> yes. >> in order to heal. >> and i think -- sorry for cutting you off because we are out of time. i think we have to challenge all sides to remember what you just said. i am going to talk about that in a minute. don't leave the injured out of the healing process. >> right. don't blame the victims of the crimes of donald trump, the poor and others like you must heal. no. no. i am the victim of his abusive behavior, and the healing has to come now from the white house. >> that's right. >> which it will. we have to get to georgia and we have to get the two seats in the united states senate. i can't think of anything more important to do between now and january 5th than to get the two senators elected.

we will nwill not be able to ge things done. latasha said she was giving up her birthday tomorrow because of the greater good. she will have it later. >> you are absolutely right. >> keep moving forward. we have no choice at this point. but it is a great day and take a moment to celebrate. >> but not a long moment. we have to go back to work. >> thank you again, michael moore. it is always good to have you. let's bring back my panel. i want to pick up right on that. moving forward, we have to really deal with the people that are injured and they can't be the ones to expect to heal themselves. they didn't do it to themselves. i read the breaking news, 239,000 people dead. we can't tell the families to

heal the covid-19. the government has to do it. we have to have an operational government that is not so stuck on one side of the aisle they can't understand that we are talking about life and death, and the numbers are going up while they are posturing on who is the most conservative for real or the most progressive for real. >> that is right. we are talking about life and death. that is why i am so hopeful about the administration that one of the first announcements they made is that they are launching the coronavirus task force and they are setting to work to ensure that the government both works for everyone and also helps to save the lives of everyone. that is so essential. i know we are all talking about kamala harris as being vice president. i am excited about what she means in terms of the representation. i am so thrilled to have a woman of color in the seat and that she as a senator introduced

bills that are the type of legislation that we are going to see once she is in the twhothe . bills to make sure we are not losing our houses to the eviction that small businesses receive the stimulus that they need and information about how this coronavirus is affecting all of our communities. >> and i think, brendan, we also need to see if some republicans will stand up on these very issues that alana and i are talking about. it may want to defy trump as you said earlier, but will they stand up on some of these issues and say the country has to be united on some things that will help americans. >> sure, i think coronavirus is a perfect example of where things can get done. but i think it's important to appreciate what joe biden's mandate is and what it is. and mandates are obviously really important. but i don't think his mandate was to come in and pass a sweeping progressive policy

agenda. you know, whether it's the failure to take back the senate or the losses in the house, but you've got to remember, there are a lot of democrats or i should say, a lot of people who voted for joe biden, because they were more voting against donald trump than they were voting for joe biden. what that tells me -- what joe biden's mandate is to be a uniter, a healer, and use the power that he has to bring people together. and i think that will be a really big contribution to the country. >> all right. i'm going to leave it there, alana beverly and brendan buck, thank you both for being with me. up next, my final thoughts. proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference. to use your vision benefits before the year's up. this is us making sure you don't. use 'em before you lose 'em, backed by our 100-day guarantee!!

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friends, i am a candidate for the presidency of the united states. i make that statement proudly, with the full knowledge that as a black person and a female person, i do not have a chance of actually gaining that office in this election year. i make that statement seriously knowing that my candidacy itself can change the face and future of american politics. >> nearly 50 years ago, shirley chisholm ran for president, the first black woman in the congress, looking to put a crack in the glass ceiling and break barriers. well, the election of joe biden and kamala harris, kamala harris broke that ceiling in part, becoming the first black woman and south asian woman and

graduate of an hbcu to become the vice president of the united stat states. when i spoke with kamala harris last night to congratulate her, i told cheer shirley chisholm and fannie lou hammer and others who paid a price were smiling that their sacrifice was not in vein. and throughout this campaign, i have talked in many forums on the national action network with both former vice president joe biden as well as bringing kamala harris to harlem and sitting at sylvia's restaurant, the world-famous soul food restaurant in the exact seat they sat with barack obama when he was running. because i wanted to talk to candidates about remembering why people paid that price. they didn't pay that price for us to gloat, they didn't pay that price for us to be as petty for us to fight, they paid that price so we could serve people that are suffering with covid,

that are victims of brutality for law enforcement, that are suffering from climate change that's burning up the west. let us not only win an election last change the direction of the country. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend, saturday sunday and at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, my colleague, lawrence o'donnell picks up our news coverage. ce o'donnell pick news coverage. what do we want for dinner? burger... i want a sugar cookie... wait... i want a bucket of chicken... i want... ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.

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