good morning. it is saturday, november 14th. i'm ali velshi. we are 67 days from president-elect joe biden's inauguration. right now, the united states is on two paths. living with two realities. one led by biden. the other adults in the room. the reality based on what is actually happening in the country and to its citizens. the other reality led by president trump's childish st stubbornness and unwillingness

to admit his fantasy or fear of the outcome of the election are not true. trump's tantrum is set to continue later this morning at a rally in washington which is promoted by far-right media personalities and conspiracy theories and white supremacists and trump campaign officials and the president himself who tweeted he may pass by. it is brought about the quest to undermine the election and democracy. he started before the election as a calling card in his rallies. the baseless lawsuits brought about by the baseless claims continue to come crumbling down. team trump lost cases in michigan and pennsylvania. both which made little sense and had legal merit. they are not worth dumping you down by diving you into. they lost five cases in philadelphia. the trump campaign dropped its lawsuit in maricopa county,

arizona. the one claiming the use of sharpies to cause ballots to be rejected. that was one day after the trump attorney admitted in court that in search for evidence by so-called witnesses to election fraud mainly yielded lies and, his words, spam. in a statement on thursday, the department of homeland security, cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency known as cisa says there was no evidence that the election was compromised. adding the 2020 election was the most secure in american history. but in a very bad sign, also on thursday, cisa's assist arenant director was forced to resign. the top cybersecurity official who heads the agency expects to be fired by the white house. congressional republicans have fallen in line with dear

leader's delusion or allowed it to continue. they will forever be remembered for playing a role in delegitimizing our democracy. >> they appear to be motivated in part because the president doesn't like to lose and never admits loss. i'm more troubled by the fact that other republican officials who clearly know better are going along with this -- are humoring him in this fashion. it is one more step in delegitimizing, not just the incoming biden administration, but democracy in general. that's a dangerous path. >> meanwhile, after delay and hoopla, nbc news called arizona yesterday. projecting joe biden as the winner. nbc news also projects biden as the apparent winner in georgia while trump is now projected the

winner in north carolina. the 306 to 232 electoral college margin is the exact number trump defeated hillary clinton in 2016. using his own words in 2016, it is a quote massive landslide. unlike trump in 2016, biden is also ahead in the popular vote by more than 5 million. something that trump never achieved. he lost the popular vote to hillary clinton. nbc news is projected marke kel kelly as the winner in arizona. meanwhile, more than 245,000 americans are dead from covid-19. deaths, cases and hospitalizations are sky rocketing across the country. yesterday marked the tenth straight record topping 170,000

new covid-19 cases in a single day. deaths are now consistently above 1,000 every day. hitting 1,250 yesterday. now trump appears responsible for yet another super spreader situation. the post reporting more than 130 secret service officers who help protect the white house and trump on travels, including his manic last-minute campaign swing have been ordered to isolate after being diagnosed or being in close contact with infected workers. trump spoke yesterday, the first time in a week, that he has gone without speaking on camera. >> ideally, we won't go to a lockdown. i will not go. this administration will not be going to a lockdown.

hopefully whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration will be, i guess time will tell. i can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown. there won't be necessity. lockdowns cost lives and a lot of problems. >> almost said biden administration there, but could not quite get it out. trump's first public remarks on camera was called for joe biden. by the way, this is not just trump trying to hold on to power, but hobble the biden transition. his general services administration, the department that holds the keys, hasn't declared biden the winner in the election. he cannot be involved in the security hearings. the trump administration continues to say the vaccine will be done in the upcoming second trump administration

which is a fantasy. that is what is happening at the kids' table. biden and the team of adults in the room are developing their own vaccine distribution strategy which is based on science. across the country, the situation is dire. >> well, i wish that -- i wish the cases were not increasing right now. i wish we were able to see an end to this. right now, it doesn't seem there is an end in the near future p. you know, we come to work and grind every day. >> come to work and grind every day. joining us live in delaware with the biden camp. ali vitali. my friend, what is the situation with the biden transition team?

>> reporter: ali, i love the way you laid this out as the dual split screen. that is the way i have been looking at it, too. we have not seen or heard from president trump. we know that is out of character. yesterday was the first time in several days since the election was called for joe biden. it is not just wanting and needing to hear from donald trump, but cases of the coronavirus are getting worse. what we saw this week on the other side of the split screen was joe biden speaking to the virus showing that he is talking to scientists and experts. that is by design. the transition has been clear that they want to prioritize getting the pandemic under control. that is how biden campaigned. it is why he rolled out on the first day of the transition a covid task force and why we heard him talk about health care and the pan democrdemipandemic.

the entirety of the interview on msnbc talked about the prioritizing coronavirus and claims experience. dealing with the ebola virus. this is someone who has experience in this thing which is very niche. pandemic is not something that a lot of people have a lot of experience with. from the top down, the biden transition trying to make this a priority. i also want to read from you a statement that biden put out yesterday after he was briefed again by experts because he speaks to the reality that this is only getting worse. telling americans that he understands how tired they are. he says i understand it is not easy. i know people are tired. this will not go on forever. we are i mproving the ability t test. we can come out on the other side stronger.

rye now heig right now is a time for shared responsibility and power. trying to layout a road ahead. that is what they are trying to do on the transition team. it is a stymied eithffort. they are pushing ahead. often times, they feel they are pushing a rock up the hill. there is one more thing to add to the reality here which is the biden transition is going to be clear they are bringing back the daily press briefings. that is something we have not seen from the trump white house. the biden team is bringing back. ali. >> i look forward to that. actually look forward to ask the president or representatives question bs what s about what i on. ali vitali. and joining me now is the

writer of new yorker and malcolm nance. he is the author of "the plot to betray america." . malcolm, i want to start with you. you said that if trump loses hour, he will wreck the united states. he will likely see the greatest political temper tantrum in history. he may decide he will go out with a bang and not decide the election results. what knows what a cornered autocrat will do? we are down to 68 days and you can see what the cornered

autocrat will do. what do you think will happen? >> it is interesting since the end of the election. we were waiting to see an explosion. we monitor militia writings in forums. actually the long count de-fused his base of support and de-fused donald trump. these were people waiting to see what trump would say. we are having the million maga march in washington, d.c. there are people standing by waiting to see if donald trump gives them marching orders. trump is brooding. he is a child throwing a temper tantr tantrum. what level of destruction? he has started to gut the national security apparatus. he is trying to gut the cybersecurity community. it is a question if he will transition from frustrated and mad for people who did not support him or if he starts

giving orders for a low-grade insurgency among his followers. s>> jennifer rubin wrote in the washington post and david rubb wrote in the new yorker. this will pass. joe biden will be sworn in as the next president. the underlining damage to democracy. the scar not just to american democracy, but the symbol of american democracy in the world will be damaged by what we are seeing right now. >> sure. if you allow me a boxing analogy. muhammad ali fought an otherwise forgotten guy of henry cooper in the uk early in his career.

cooper hit ali with a left hook and knocked him down. ali got up and rallied and won the fight. it seems to be a blip. years later, when ali fought the wars with joe frazier, joe frazier hit him with left hooks. what was in that moment, muhammad ali's weaknesses had been exposed. that is essentially what has happened with trump and the trump administration. we have seen the ways in which you can gain american democracy and the particular threats that can be instituted by them. we suffered far more damage than the glancing blow of someone knocked down and comes back and wins the fight. we have substantial damage from getting rid of the inspector generals to the fact he has at

his helm let the virus run unchecked through the population. you know, lots of things to recover from. absolutely right when they say the bigger threat is on the horizon. now we know what the formula is. now the people have seen the mechanisms for interfering in our elections and recognizing one party will place its own interests above american sovereignty. we have seen the mechanisms for mobilizing the people in the demagogue fashion. all of that has been exposed and repercussions are still waiting to deal with. >> malcolm, let me ask you what donald trump is doing at the defense department and national security apparatus. is he doing this to stay in power or because he wants to walk away with secrets and sell them for money? what do you think is happening? do you think the military will

play any role in helping donald trump stay in power? everything i heard from former military people is that is not possible. no general will go along with any stunt like that. >> they are right. that's not possible. let me break it down easily so everybody understands where this comes from. he replaces the secretary of defense. the secretary of defense is a former army colonel who went to the national counterterrorism center. at some point, donald trump must have explained to him or he agreed on the fact that this is the guy who would execute an insurrection act order and he wanted a "yes" man in that job. every defense secretary below him can say these orders are unlawful. you can fire them and do to the executive officers. they will say unlawful orders. you can't keep going down to the last private in the army.

donald trump will not get what he thinks he will get at the defense department. the other people in the department, patel, tata, watnick. i don't think those jobs are there for them to do anything at all other than to get a new title for fox news as former under secretary. ezra watnick was an intern. he wassycophant. everyone will ignore him for the next 60 days. he is not getting a call. >> we're going -- you should get -- we'll talk more about

qanon later in the show. thank you. i enjoyed following your tweets. they are worth checking in on. jelani is a staff writer. malcolm nance. every doctor and scientist warned coronavirus would hit like a tsunami in the fall. this is not a surprise. now fall is here, our medical professionals are overwhelmed. coming up next, i'll speak to dr. francis collins. director of the nih. he is spreading information and inspiration. back by popular demand. here is a beatles hit. ♪ this is a year ♪ i'll remember ♪ all my life ♪ it's been so strange ♪ with this virus ♪ all around us ♪ through the whole world ♪ our lives have changed

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i didn't want my patient to die alone. so we sat with him. we made him comfortable. i decided it was very important to be with him so he didn't -- he didn't pass alone. he had a huge family and none of

them were able to be here. so, you know, he was there, you know, completely with it until he passed. it was nice to know that he felt comforted because we were there with him. >> we have been hearing these stories for eight months. it is still going on the way it was. we are thankful to these doctors and nurses and frontline workers. one of many heartbreaking stories from fatigued medical professionals across the country as they continue to see the worst of the coronavirus. new mexico, where that nurse worked, one of the few states now shutting down non-essential businesses to control the surge. records shattered every day in the united states. since the dpibeginning of novem, cases have doubled. this morning, 10,188,345

american covid-19 cases. more than 245,000 people have died as cases rise in 49 states and d.c. and puerto rico. the virus is spreading rapidly. averaging about 1,000 deaths a day. as the virus continues to take its toll, we got positive news about potential treatment. pfizer and biontech released preliminary data over the vaccine is 94% effective. that number is staggering as the tlesh threshold was 50%. the fda approved an eli lily antibody drug was approved. and dr. fauci warned americans not to let down their guard in the coming months. >> the cavalry is coming. don't put your weapons down. you better keep fighting. they are not here yet.

help is on the way. it is not here yet. >> joining me now is francis collins. the director of the national institutes of health. good to see you again. i said to you when we start getting therapeutics and vaccines because of the doubt spread about the way they were being checked and tested and the fact so many of the announcements come from the companies as opposed to peer review results, i would check with you before you think they will be good. this pfizer one and the eli lily antibody medication seem to be real. >> they do. ali, it is great to be with you. what a week of contrasts we have been through with the worst week we had yet with the number of cases of covid-19 and hospitalizations reaching a new high in our country since this began. yet, at the same time, exciting news how the science is paying off with vaccines and

treatments. yes, nih is a major partner as the all-hands on deck effort since january is deeply engaged in everything about the vaccine and treatment. i can confirm what pfizer reported was, in fact, really gratifying and dramatically better than most of us dared to hope. i guess for myself, i thought, maybe we'll get a vaccine that could be 70% effective. this is 90% or maybe 95% is incredibly gratifying to see. there's another one moderna announced reaching the point to unblind their initial data. we may hear what happens there as well in the next few days. >> what are we talking about realistically in terms of regular folks being able to get this thing? what is your guess? early spring? >> well, that's a great question. were not for operation warp

speed, we would be talking about months to build the factory and build tens of millions of doses. because this was a crisis and everything needed to be done more quickly. warp speed funding the manufacturing and the congress and public, thank you, taxpayers, to be sure we had it ready. not enough for everybody right away. there will be if all goes well and one or more of these gets approved in december, there will be something in the neighborhood of enough doses for 20 million people in december. those do to the people highest risk. elderly people with chronic illnesses. starting in january, there should be 25 or 30 million doses every month coming along. maybe an acceleration for that.

for the whole country? we are talking about late spring or summer. as tony fauci said in that clip, the cavalry is coming. they are not here yet. we have to double down on all of the health measures to save lives. >> yeah. one of them is careful at thanksgiving. you said this week i'm not going to have thanksgiving with my family this year because people in the family are at risk and i'll miss that. the first time in 27 years has not been a gathering of 30 or more people around the table. when you put the evidence together, we can get by this year without that. we will go through a crisis and it will have an end. people are missing their families. we are into the ninth month. they are missing their families. kids are missing their grandparents. the better decision is to keep this small or by zoom. >> it is -- if you care about saving lives, this is where we have to gather together. wishful thinking that we will

get through this without the attention of every american hasn't paid off. we are in a difficult place with cold weather and more people indoors. this comes down to all of us. if we could hit the reset button on all of the noise of mask wearing. it will be compelling. i promise you anybody willing to look at the evidence. if we all today started wearing masks when you are outside the house. it will protect us, cdc shhas shown that, it protects people from us if a person is infected and doesn't know it. that is simple. we have shown that in other countries and states in the u.s. arizona and delaware. it can make a difference. we are still fighting about that. can we stop fighting about that? this is how we will save lives. >> from your mouth to everyone's ears. francis collins. director of the national

institutes of health. his message is to wear a mask. americans are struggling through another onslaught of hardships. tomorrow morning, we will have a special hour surviving the next wave. leading experts in business will answer questions about how to make it through the next few months. whether you own a small business or you work in a business. email us your questions. mystory@velshi.com. these are questions that you want asked by the experts. tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern on msnbc. just like that, georgia is at the center of america's political universe. joe biden managed to flip the red state and two runoff elections will decide the senate in january. next, what democrats need to do to win the two remaining seats in the united states senate. ts in the united states senate. inse so you only pay for what you need? really? i didn't-- aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah!

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nbc news projects that joe biden is the apparent winner in georgia. it was a tight race and the state will have a ballot audit. georgia is also the center of the national battle for control of the united states senate. right now, republicans hold a 50-48 seat advantage in the senate. democrats have a shot at gaining control. in an even split, the vice president is the tie breaker. it comes down to two rare runoff elections in georgia. state is unique. it requires candidates to receive of a majority of the vote more than 50% in order to win an election. if no candidate reaches that majority, the top it would go to a runoff. there is a race with the republican incumbent kelly

loeffler. and the republican senator david purdue and jon ossoff. both races will advance to a runoff on january 5th. georgia voters will cast ballots again. a clean slate for the candidates which means these campaigns have been launched into overtime. if you have been wondering why a handful of republican lawmakers have congratulated poojoe biden winning the presidency, while most continue to congratulate president trump at the kids table. the republican party needs donald trump and supporters to clinch the georgia runoff. accepting the presidential results ahead of trump, politician driven by loyalty could put republicans at odds with the president and core supporters amid the must-win elections down south. john thune said we need voters

and he has tremendous following. right now, he is trying to get through the final stages of his election and determine the outcome. when all that is said and done, however it comes out, we want him helping in georgia. so far, radio science from mr. trump on the georgia races and he is not publicly committed to helping out. both parties are pulling in major amounts of cash for the runoffs. georgia democrats have a secret weapon. stacy abrams. she lost the governor race in 2018. she has not stopped working to get people registered to vote. as of monday, abrams' group called fair fight action raised 6 million there are for ossoff. that number has likely grown. joe biden was able to flip a likely southern state and much of that credit has to go to

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and tightening restrictions while covid-19 cases surge. it is likely to get worse if congress doesn't come up with a new stimulus plan. it has been a week since joe biden was named president-elect. he and his team are focusing on the pandemic and recession and promising to push ahead with the affordable care act and putting together a team of doctors and experts to put together a best practices for fights t ing the pandemic. we have the co-chair of the unity task force and the president of the flight attendants association. we have been talking about this for eight or nine months to keep people working. it looked like folks would get back to work and in your industry, flights were picking up. now a new wave and we are worried that businesses will start shutting down and people

will stop traveling again. we don't have adequate plans from the government about how to keep people paid and businesses open. >> that's absolutely correct, ali. we have not had the relief we need to have. when we put in place the relief plan in march, take the airline industry for example. 80% union. we were able to force the airlines to agree to workers first package. it directed all of the money to pay and benefits keeping us in the jobs. and capping executive pay and banning stock buyback and dividend. those requirements expired on september 30th. we have mass furloughs in the industry for no reason. this is the best template moving forward. this is what biden would like to use for the country. the cases are surging. we are right in the middle of the pandemic. right in the middle of the crisis. it will continue to get worse. those people out on furlough and

the people picking up the slack with airlines trying to cut costs everywhere so it is difficult at work. you cannot retroactively restore lives. you can't make people whole. you have to get relief in place now. mitch mcconnell said he wants targeted relief. so far that has meant he wants to target workers and give no accountability to corporations for packing people in distribution centers and meat packing plants. what we need to do is call the question on mitch mcconnell and put over a package that makes sense and restores people to work and gives people the ability to care for themselves right now and be strong enough as we go into the transition to the new government. >> you make an interesting point. when you compare the dollar value of the democratic plan and republican senate plan. the republican senate plan is a lot about indemnifying companies

against lawsuits. i want to call up joe biden's stimulus plan. enhanced unemployment insurance and increased social security payments. make covid-19 medical treatment free. paid sick leave and student loan forgi forgiveness. we are losing on average 1,000 a day. that number is going up. we will lose another 70,000 at least before inauguration day. sara, you don't get the lives back. we need to fix the problem now. >> absolutely. you know, as you said, all eyes are on georgia. tens of thousands of aviation workers in georgia. there is a relief that we can put in place right now. joe biden's plan is fantastic. it is something we can organize around and force whatever the senate looks like to do. if we have the ability to do that. that will not come until he gets his cabinet in place and we get well into next year. we have to recognize the fact when we have to lock in relief so we're strong enough and able to make the economic argument

that the democrats are trying to help people and democrats trying to get people strong enough to get through the pandemic. we have to lock in as much relief now as possible. >> dr. osterholm on the task force for biden had suggested a plan you and i talked about for months. that is one that is used in certain european countries. that is lockdown or not, have the government pay people a large portion of the salaries or pay the companies to pay their workers which is the plan going on with the airlines before it ended at the end of september. >> absolutely. that's the plan that works. you know, keeping people in jobs whether work is there or not is more critical in the united states. we do not have health care that is provided by the government. when people lose jobs, they lose health care. we are in a weaker position. in the airline industry for

example, we keep people in the jobs and keep connected to the health care and paying taxes so we're not worsening the state and local budgets that are already stressed. we are continuing to pay the cable bill. supporting 1 in 14 jobs in the country. ali, this is really important. we are talking about a vaccine and distribution of a vaccine. we cannot do that unless the airline industry is in place. there is no way you can actually distribute the vaccine fast enough if you don't have a strong airline industry to move the jumbo jets to distribute the vaccine. you cannot put this in place in months from now and be ready to actually meet the demands this country needs on the other side of the inauguration. >> sara, you have been making this point for months. sara nelson is the president of the association of flight attendants and she is the co-chair of the biden task force. thanks.

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one day 20 or 30 years from now, you may forget mostly about the trump legacy. there is one piece about it that you won't forget. a hugely impactful piece of the trump legacy. the soon to be former president spent four years gutting environmental restrictions in place. he got rid or loosened rules pertaining to the pollution of water and air. he withdrew from the paris climate agreement. president-elect joe biden

signalled his administration is committed making this fight a top priority and restoring many of the overturned obama era policies. biden will attempt to achieve a 100% clean energy economy in the united states and reach zero emissions no later than 2050. he plans to spend $2 trillion over the next four years to achieve that goal. and he plans to take an all of government approach in listing the help of executive departments like transportation, state and treasury, departments that have not typically been involved in climate. but the question remains, can the damage caused by this trump white house be undone? joining me is monica medina, the founder and publisher of "our daily news" newsletter.

and she's something else that we're not going to talk about this morning, but she happens to be the wife of the man who is going to be the chief of staff to the next president of the united states, ron klain. but we're not talking about that, monica. what we're talking about is i don't know how long ago it was, maybe it was a year ago you organized a forum at georgetown university, the first of its kind ever in which you brought together the presidential candidates to discuss climate. one hour at a time back to back to back. now you have a president who is going to make climate change a priority. what do you think will happen and what do you want to happen? >> as you know from our climate forum a year ago, you sat hour after hour and talked to every person about the climate. that was critical in bringing

the issue in. when it comes to what they can do going forward, as a person who worked in the justice department and a large agency, there's a lot they can do almost immediately. one of the biggest things is begin to bring back enforcement. the trump administration has rolled back regulations, they can put those back in place but they can also bring enforcement back to bare and bring polluters back into enforcement and even researching the connection between cancer and pollution. there's a lot they can do right away with the powers of the federal government in their hands. >> talk to me about the idea of who runs this in the biden administration? is it the department of energy?

is it a climate czar? it's a question we had with a lot of the presidential candidates. how do you get an all of government professional to clap? it looks like they're talking an all-of-government approach to covid. what's the climate version of that? >> it starts with leadership at the top and the president-elect cares immembensimmensely as doee president-elect as well. it's an important signal from top to bottom. i think it matters that the appointments they make are people who care and stand the climate issues. they've committed to that. as a journalist like you, i see a lot of very positive signs about the way they're going to handle this, infusing it throughout the government, from top to bottom and then reaching down into state and local

governments and involving communities and the way they dealt with the issue over the course of the campaign was really interesting they brought in members of congress as well as community organizers and youth activists to secretary kerry to try and tackle the issue. i think they'll take a similar kind of approach because that's the way they've handed it so far. >> monica -- sorry to interrupt you. i have a pretty energy efficient house and i get all the water i need out of my shower head and the toilet flushes just fine and i've got normal size window. president trump kept talking about tiny windows and shower heads and all that but really he was trying to scare people about dealing what the climate was like, it will cost them money, they won't be able to have ice cream and all this kind of stuff. how does this administration present climate change and

fixing it as opportunity as opposed to cost. >> as you know from the campaign trail the president-elect talked about the jobs that will be created by dealing with the climate crisis. i thinks that one way. and think the thing that really scares people isn't whether or not there's enough water coming out of shower head because there is, it's that they see that this is the year where we've had 30 named storms. that's unprecedented, where our west coast was literally on fire and where phoenix was 100 degrees for months on end. so that's what really frightens people. i think what will help them feel better is knowing there's an administration that's working on it and that there are positive ways we can address the economy that had lep us deal with the covid crisis and keep our kids safe. when you think about the voting blocks that mattered in this election, it was suburban moms. they care about their kids and

the future for their children. i think that's what's going to i think keep the administration focused on the issues. it's looking to who was their support and who turned this election in their favor. and they seem to have a really good sense of that. >> monica, thanks for all the work you've done on this front. >> thank you. >> former official at the national oceanic and atmosphere being administration under president obama. i'll talk to members of the homeland security committee after a quick break. committee after a quick break. [ engine rumbling ] ♪ [ beeping ]

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good morning. it is november 14th, i'm ali develop shi. just a small group of republican lawmakers recognizing the reality determined by the majority of american voters, admitting that former vice president joe biden should receive all necessary information he needs for his transition to the presidency. ohio governor mike dewine stating it plainly that joe biden will be the 46th president of the united states. maryland governor larry hogan tweeting we need to come together as a nation now more than ever. a few republican senators, including iowa's chuck grassley saying that biden should get all the classified intel briefings necessary to carry out the duties of the