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good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, exit through grift shop. one week after the u.s. presidential race was declared in overwhelming fashion for joe biden, we're still waiting for morning in america. and that's because donald trump and his enablers refuse to see the light, at least publicly. the president is still tweeting nonsense about electoral fraud in states he lost. congressional republicans are still ignoring the need for fluid transition of power.
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like.com no like dominos, they've gone down. half a dozen of them thrown out going into this weekend. but the lawsuits are a distraction a way to buy time and avoid the coming karma after a four-year grift because the president is facing a mountain of legal trouble once he's a civilian. that's his excuse. we know it isn't about the country. but for the trump die-hards who trickled into the national mall for today's, quote, million maga march, there is no excuse and never was from the top down. the party that espouses law and order is actively overlooking the department of homeland security's assessment that this was the most secure election in
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american history, and the party of states' rights is rejecting that all 50 states have spoken. but mr. biden coming out on top and trying to plot a course around the current administration to prepare for his own. but to be fair, this president has already checked out and conceded, not to joe biden, no, but to the surging pandemic that he's probably blaming for his loss, ignoring that re-election is about leadership during crises. joining me now is democratic strategist don callaway and former republican congressman david jolly. he is now the national chairman of serve america movement. let me go to you first, david. let me play to you president
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obama, who knows what it is to take office in a divided america. this is what he said to "60 minutes." listen. >> they appear to be motivated in part because the president doesn't like to lose and never admits loss. i'm more troubled by the fact that other republican officials who clearly know better are going along with this, are humoring him in this fashion. it is one more step in delegitimateizing not just the incoming biden administration, but democracy generally. and that's a dangerous path. >> how do you view what former president obama said about why are republican leaders humoring this president when we've had, according to the department of homeland security, the most secure election in american
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history? >> rev, i would agree fully with president obama, but i would add something to it. it's not just their efforts are delegitimizing the election, but in the long run, they're delegitimizing the republican party because what we're seeing right now is much bigger than just donald trump. we knew that he would do this. he is a president who claimed he cheated when he won in 2016. we knew he would claim he was cheated. but the republicans in their silence are engaging in a full-on assault on american democracy, republicans are. the republican party is. and so whether the motivation is that they fear a tweet from the president, whether the motivation is simply that they are trying to keep trump's voters that they need for their own re-election, the reality is atlas mome there is a moment right now, a calling for leadership, and in
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their silence -- or, in fact, for those enabling this president's language, they are engaging in an assault in our elections and leading us to question the elections. they're did he legitimizing the election. and at the end of the day the republican party today is making america weaker, not stronger. this is part of their legacy, not just donald trump's. >> and don, making us weaker at a very serious time. we are in the middle of a pandemic that is seemingly to gain traction at this point. we are at a point where we're told in transitions of power in this country is when we're most vulnerable. 9/11 happened during that time. this is not a time for anybody with real leadership to be playing games of humoring somebody that is too immature to accept defeat or to play partisan games. >> yeah, you're absolutely right
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and the congressman is absolutely right. i mean, there are very real operational things that need to happen to make sure the peaceful transition of power happens and that one administration passes the torch to the next in a way that government operations and the safety of americans continues. first of all, the president has no interest in making sure the biden administration is up and running on day one. he has no interest in doing the rest of his job for the next 60 days. i saw that he rode through the million maga march today, but that's about the only public appearance that we've seen from him with the exception of a very brief nonsensical conference yesterday. he's abandoned the post, and that's from insiders in the white house. there's an extraordinary vacuum of leadership, and that will be ridiculously dangerous in any given situation, but particularly dangerous when the incoming president-elect doesn't
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have access to documents, intelligence, plans about this coronavirus pandemic at a time, rev, when it's actually spiking. it's not as though it's the summertime and people are outside and we've flattened the curve. no, cases are spiking. it's as bad as it's ever been so you're absolutely right in highlight that go. the flurailure to pass it on is dangerous now during this pandemic. >> absolutely. you know, when we look at the fact, david, that many democrats are gearing up to go all out in the georgia runoffs, for example, if they're successful in both of these two runoffs with the reverend rafael war knock and with ossoff, they can then have the democrats the majority of the senate. but some in the party are feeling weary after spending large amounts of money on losing senate races in southern states
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like south carolina and kentucky and weren't nearly as competitive as the polling suggested. why should we believe georgia contests are different? you as a republican, do you feel that these are useless -- do you feel that they are competitive? it's a runoff and there's two words i think of when i think of what could be the difference, stacey abrams, the work she's done. >> yeah. yeah, that's exactly right, rev. are they competitive or not? just look at the purdue/ossoff race. that was the two-person race. look at the two-person head to head, and it was a narrow race, 49/47, or 49/48. look at the presidential race that tilted towards biden. so, yes it absolutely is competitive. but i think the hesitation is important because it should inform perhaps how democrats and republicans perform going into this. there's a tendency in special elections. i was a product of a special
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election or in a runoff. they get nationalized because all the focus is on that state. but i would say to my democratic and republican friends, let the georgia people determine how democrats win the race. because it may look different than how democrats win statewide in massachusetts or new york or california or oklahoma. may look different than how republicans win in florida. trust your georgia democratic leadership to carry this over the line for you if you want democrats to win these seats in georgia. >> that's from a republican. thank you, don callaway and david jolly. joining me now is congresswoman robin kelly, democrat of illinois. she is the cochair of the caucus on black women and girls. let me ask you, congresswoman, first, thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you very field goal me. >> let me ask you. we are in a pandemic that is
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spiking up in your hometown of chicago, the mayor is suggesting people cancel thanksgiving dinners and for people to just about close down and be ready possibly for even a shutdown. this president is still in basic denial and will not even cooperate in a transition of vital information to the incoming president that he still will not concede to. what can the congress do and what can the congress not do that can help the american citizens at this moment of real concern? >> rev, we go back on monday and i'm hoping no matter what they say, mitch mcconnell knows what's about to happen. and supposedly, talks are going to begin again and we may be
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able to come up with some type of stimulus or package that we can do right now before his presidency even runs out. so that's what i'm hoping for. >> stimulus in terms of getting some money to the citizens who will run out as well as -- >> converging of the h.e.r.o.e.s. act. >> right. >> right. [ inaudible ] -- more money for testing, tracing, local government, money for families, money for small business. >> all right. another issue that concerns me is this new congress will have to deal with race and this national push for greater sensitivity around racial issues. so what do you make of incoming missouri congresswoman cory bush saying that she was misidentified as the late breonna taylor by some of her new gop colleagues all because she wore a face mask with taylor's name on it?
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i mean for you to have people coming into the congress that don't even know breonna taylor was killed by police and has become a symbol of the george floyd, breonna taylor, and other concerns, and mistaken a new member of congress for breonna taylor, and these are the people we're going to have to deal with legislation around racial issues and other issues, it's a little frightening. >> it's more than a little frightening. that is very scary and unbelievable. i hadn't heard the story. i've been talking to cory because she's from my region that i represent, illinois, missouri, and indiana. we're all together. so i hadn't realized that, but that's absolutely ridiculous. and i hope they were embarrassed by that. no, that is scary. but we still have to push forward, you know, no matter who we're dealing with. luckily there's enough of us in the house to push some things forward to hopefully, you know,
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i'm hoping and praying we take back georgia and we have those two senators. but even if we don't, i'm going to be optimistic, at least we're a little closer in the count. so that will be helpful also. >> now, as we look at the fact that -- i don't want to put a lot of energy into the president's frivolous lawsuits, but as we look at his fighting back and forth trying to make something happen that just -- the facts are not there -- we're looking at the biden and harris administration coming in under some very serious and life-threatening circumstances in terms of this pandemic. and it's going to take a lot of support from members of congress and the senate and the public to really help get them to do what it is that they're proposing to do. i see president-elect biden and
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vice president-elect harris meeting with experts, talking to health experts, as well as pushing things like the h.e.r.o.e.s. act. do you think that americans are being prepared enough to understand that we may be going through a tough holiday season even before they take office and maybe for the first quarter of the year after they take office? >> well, i think that in the city of chicago and the state of illinois the health experts are, you know, every day there's a press conference when we're trying to explain to everybody the severity of the situation. government can do certain things, but people still have to take responsibility. i mean, it's just -- it's just hard to believe that, you know, people don't know the severity and don't know what they have to do. maybe they don't accept it, but i think that people should know.
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now, i wish that, again, the states and local government had the money that we set aside for the health care field and all of that because then we could be even better prepared, but, you know, i think that people should realize -- i mean, so many people have died. >> it is absolutely something that we must do what we should and supposed to do in these circumstances. thank you, congresswoman robin kelly of illinois. >> thank you so much, be safe. coming up, i'll talk with a civil rights lawyer about the baseless litigation trump is waging to disenfranchise voters. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? stories we're watching for you this hour, coronavirus skyrockets friday. over 176,000 new cases, shattering a single-day record. total number of cases now over
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10.9 million. the death toll stands at over 246,000. states like wisconsin are fighting massive surges, over 7,000 cases were confirmed statewide friday. that adds to its total of 300,000 cases. the governor and state's medical team urge residents to stay home. they also warned of overcrowded hospitals that could struggle to treat more patients. new york city's mayor told residents if the positivity rate surpasses 3%, schools will shut down and return to online learning. nevada's governor testing positive for covid-19. the governor says he's quarantined and will monitor his symptoms. more "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. passed down, along with the recipes. three generations on the wall... with room to grow. the rhythm of home... the smells, the sounds, the flow...
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i'm not talking about the nonsense fraud cases your legal team keeps getting laughed out of the courtroom for bringing mr. president, no. the biggest fraud in america continues to be you. it started far before you announced your candidacy for president when your business was in the dumpster and you got a lifeline from nbc itself, the "apprentice" and portrayed you as everything you weren't, savvy, smart, rich, and successful. that show sold the image to the american people as a titan of industry and you traded on that entertaining falsehood to launch your political career. with the helping hand from yet another falsehood, this one claimed that president barack obama was not born in this country, a lie that is all at once easily debunked, racist,
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fraudulent just like you. when your own frauds aren't effective enough, you accuse everyone around you of cheating, like during the 2016 primaries when ted cruz beat you in the iowa caucus and you threw a tantrum, slinging baseless claims that you had been cheated. even when you managed to leverage your lies and your whining into an actual win, like your 2016 electoral college victory, you still can't stop yourself from claiming there was some kind of fraud perpetrated against you because you lost the popular vote to hillary clinton by millions. you had to claim, without evidence, that millions of illegal votes were cast. and this from the as os tenseble winner. but your own lackeys came up empty, even with the full powers
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of the federal government behind them. they found no evidence of widespread fraud. and this year, well, it's deja vu all over again, except this time you've lost, and no one has substantiated any of your claims of voter fraud. your election has been called in every state and turned up nothing. your own lawyers are being laughed out of courts because of the absurdity of your claims. even your own department of homeland security called this election, quote, the most secure in american history. so it's time to face facts, mr. president. there was no widespread voter fraud. joe biden beat you in the electoral college fair and square, and his popular vote lead is expanding each and every day as the final ballots get tallied. your abysmal performance and response to the challenges of your office has already exposed
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you as a charlatan. reporting on your financial history has revealed you're much better at being an actor than a businessman, and you're not that good an actor. your entire life has been built on the long con, stacking lie on top of lie and fraud on top of fraud and then jumping to the next thing, leaving someone else holding the bag. but the jig is up. your claims of fraud are false and you have nowhere else to run. the votes are in. the people have spoken. and you'll be evicted from that big white house come january 20th. we'll be right back.
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was at the polls with lawsuit after lawsuit failing. the trump campaign lawyers getting all but laughed out of the room. in michigan where joe biden won by nearly 150,000 votes, a judge called the trump campaign's claim of voter fraud, quote, incorrect and not credible. joining me now is christian clop, president and executive director of the lawyers committee for civil rights under the law. thank you for being with me tonight, christian. let me ask you, when we look at the lawsuits and the apparent legal strategy of the president, we're not only concerned about it in terms of partisan politics, whether one is democratic or republican, but we're actually talking about robbing people of their voting rights and the decisions that their votes have led to.
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>> that's right. i mean, we've never seen anything like this. lawsuits filed all across the country that aim to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands, if not millions of voters after the fact. these are eligible voters. there's one thing that's getting left out of the conversation. these lawsuits single out counties that are home to disproportionate numbers of black voters and voters of color. >> i want to push you on that. i want to push on that because last night you tweeted about a trump lawsuit in pennsylvania that you were seeking to have dismissed. reporting that the law firm has withdrawn from the case. what about this case is so nefarious and what happens now? i think it represents somewhere where you were going. >> this is a lawsuit filed without substantial evidence. when we filed voting rights lawsuits and election lawsuits, we pony up the experts that have
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done the work in advance to substantiate the claims that we hope to prove before a federal judge. and these cases lack evidence. they lack meaningful evidence. so i'm not surprised that law firms are dropping like hot cakes off of these lawsuits because their reputations are at stake. i want to mention a suit that was filed in georgia two days ago. that case singles out several counties in georgia, fulton, cobb, again home to some of the largest numbers of voters. 1.5 million eligible voters of color. 2020 was a hard-fought election season for americans across our country, but especially for voters of color who endured long lines and several-hour wait times to vote. so we were not going to stand by
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idly while the trump campaign singles out voters of color to disenfranchise them after the fact. these cases are baseless and frivolous. many of them have already failed, and we expect that the remaining suits will fail as well. my organization, the lawyers committee for civil rights under law, has gotten involved in about six of these lawsuits and we will fight to the bitter end to make sure that the voices of all voters, but especially voters of color, are not blocked out from this important election. the race is over. >> now, one of the ploys is to accuse dead people are voting. they accused people being dead that are alive and voted legally. what kind of damage can be made up -- these claims that are made
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up, fraudulent claims, what damage does it do to the system? >> it undermines public confidence in our electoral process. you know, it sends an awful message to the public, to poll workers, to election officials, to people who volunteered and worked incredibly hard to make sure that the 2020 election could go forward in the wake of global pandemic. the evidence that you just mentioned, there's a postal service worker who offered up false testimony change that he saw people back-dating ballots. we saw another lawsuit where they alleged that there were four dead voters. turns out it was very easy to uncover so far at a at least two of these people are alive and well. you know, these folks should be sanctioned for filing these frivolous claims. again, this is an attempt to undermine the integrity of an election that is over. the american public has spoken.
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they have determined who they've chosen to be their next president-elect, and it's time for us to move forward. in the interim, we're going to keep fighting in the court. as quick as they bring these lawsuits, we'll be there to fight back. >> now, there have been seven of us that lead national civil rights groups, you with the lawyers committee, me with national action network and five other groups that have worked together throughout the eight years of president obama and have met virtually with president-elect biden when he was running and he's committed to meet after the race, which we look forward to him doing with us and other groups, congressional black caucus and other groups. what do you think are the things that we would want to see from the civil rights community president biden and vice president harris do in the civil rights area immediately after
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taking office to at least begin in the first 100 days? >> some of the immediate priorities are getting the civil rights division of the justice department back in business. this is a critical agency that has just been asleep for the last few years, leaving to us, the civil rights organizations, the task of picking up the slack. we need them to reverse course and dangerous moves they've taken. they filed a suit challenging affirmative action at yale university. they weighed in on a pending case with harvard university. we need them to withdraw those cases. we need them to restore hud and the department of education, which were decimated under the leadership of ben carson and devos. we need to work on the courts and restoring educational diversity to our federal courts with respect to race and gender. we've turned the clock back in devastation fashion over the
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last few years. there is a long list of priorities, but to me those rise at the very top and are of great urgency. >> you were a part of those that joined martin luther king iii and myself in convening the march on washington at the end of august when we called for passing of the george floyd policing and justice act as well as the john lewis voting rights act. and the senate has not taken this up. the congress has already passed both. do you feel -- and i know you're nonpartisan in terms of the lawyers committee -- do you feel if there's victories for the democrats in the georgia runoffs and we got a new senate and we can pass legislation that could also address some of the blatant civil rights acts that are needed -- blatant civil rights legislation that is needed at this time? >> i certainly hope so because the marches and protests that
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have truly defined 2020 will continue and carry over into the new year until congress acts. the george floyd justice in policing act is the comprehensive policing reform bill that we need at the federal level. and it's shameful that you have folks in the senate who have claimed that there is bipartisan support for criminal justice reform. well, here's something that is responsive to the moment and the crisis we're up against. one other priority that i would put on the table, reverend sharpton, is passage of the john lewis advancement act. it had tremendous bipartisan support in the past, and this year where we have seen better voter suppression is a stark reminder of the enormous need to pass the john lewis voting rights advancement act in a next congress. >> kristin clarke, thank you for being with me this evening.
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time is that minorities, especially black americans, have been disproportionately hit hard by this virus and have taken a financial, medical, and emotional toll greater on average than those who are white. joining me now is emergency physician and yahoo news medical contributor, dr. blackstock. let me go to you, doctor, asking this question. why is covid-19 still affecting minorities and blacks in such an unequal way compared to those who are white? >> thank you for having me on, reverend al. the problem is from the very beginning that this president has no coherent national strategy to control this virus. and so while this virus can affect everyone, the fact is that our communities, particularly black communities, we're at unique risk to this
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virus given the type of jobs we're limited to working, the type of housing, as well as, you know, other forms of employment. and so that's one of the many reasons why we've seen our communities being disproportionately impacted. because there's been no strategy, we've essentially seen the mortality rate in our communities increase exponent l exponentially. that's why we need this next administration to work quickly to address the rates we're seeing right now in our communities. >> now, a poll found that 4 out of 10 black americans know someone who has died from coronavirus. also half of black adults polled said that someone in their household lost their job or saw a reduction in pay due to the pandemic. it is clear that black americans have been hit hard by this virus. what else can the current administration do? >> so the current administration, what should've been doing is working with state and local leadership to ensure
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robust testing and contact tracing infrastructure in our communities and not just testing, but ensuring that testing is free, accessible, and rapped with quick turnarounds. we're not seeing that right now. we should be ensuring that every person has access to personal protective equipment. masks should be given out on street corners, in churches, in community centers. that's not being done. finally, i think -- it's not reaching our communities the way that it should be. i think part of the problem is that we need state and local leadership, private sector to be working with community-based organizations, trusted leaders in the communities like faith-based organizations to ensure that community members are getting the message around coronavirus in terms of signs and symptoms and how to protect ourselves. >> looking ahead, what do you hope president-elect biden will do with his covid-19 task force on day one, let's say, of his
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administration? >> i was very excited to see that one of the seven action items of the covid-19 response for the transition task force was the putting together a task force to address racial disparities. and so i hope this task force will actually work with state leadership, the work with the governors to ensure that each state has its own task force to address racial health inequities so we can ensure testing, contact tracing is happening, we can ensure that every state has adequate ppe, funding for safety net hospitals and address all the inequities that are creating the disproportionate gap in our community during this pandemic. >> now, as a doctor, how has racism in the medical community impacted the treatment or diagnosis of black and brown patients? >> right. so we have multiple factors. while we're seeing this disproportionate disparities,
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one of them is provider bias. clinicians have implicit or explicit bias towards black patients. we know this in the mortality gap and inevitably we've seen it with people's systems not being taken seriously, being charged too early. this is another factor we'll have to address to make sure black patients receive the best care possible. >> do you feel a lot of the underlying societal problems also enhance the disparity? because i've talked to many parents that say that when they say, for example, my child should learn from home, do their lessons virtually, some of them are in areas that are broadband deserts and can't do that. everything in society feeds in
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how we deal with emergencies like this pandemic. >> right. so this pandemic is not only reinforcing health inequities, but also educational inequities. so we are having more of our children learning from home. we already have a broadband connectivity gap, but also we know that learning from home is not as effective as learning in school. however, it's been our communities that have been disproportionately impacted by this virus and many families are actually scared to send their children to school, so further reinforcing that achievement and opportunity gap. so this is another reason why we need to get this virus under control. we cannot have our children learning at home until there is a vaccine. we need to reach a compromise and bring our kids back into the schools. >> dr. uche blackstock, thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. it's open!
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million maga march in washington, and it was far short of a million, but thousands did march in support of president trump, saying that this election was stolen. well, there were no reports of any violence, and i support the right for anyone to have peaceful protests. in fact, for decades, i have called, led, and participated in many myself. just over two months ago, martin luther king iii and i had a larger march in washington, over 200,000 in washington that was also peaceful, not one incident. but the difference in the marches is we were marching for and with real victims, the family of george floyd, the family of breonna taylor, her mother, the family of ahmaud arbery, the family of rashard brooks, who was seeking justice for real grievances of police or
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racial killings. you cannot make a victim out of someone who was not subject to something that they were wronged in. a reporter called me this afternoon and to me, do you have a message for those marching? and i said they have the right to march. but i would tell them this. i grew up in brooklyn, new york. president trump grew up in queens. i don't know where he went to school for his preliminary education. i went to public schools. and i learned a nursery rhyme about humpty-dumpty. humpty-dumpty sat on a wall, humpty-dumpty had a great paul. all the king's horsemen, all the king's men couldn't butt humidi put him back together again. but on november 20th, he had a great fall, and all of the lawsuits and silent republicans won't put this president back together again. he is not a victim.
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he is a result of the american people assessing for themselves his performance in the last four years and voting in unprecedented and existic numbers to let him go his way. and nobody, i don't care what kind of glue you use can put together a case that is not there. mr. president, the people have spoken. and like humpty, you can't put this back together again. i'll be right back. ♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. ♪
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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, my colleague, alicia menendez picks up our news coverage. >> thank you, reverend sharpton, and hello to all of you at home. i'm alicia menendez. tonight a breaking point in america's fight against coronavirus. cases are surging at records we have not seen in nine months. and despite the new surge, same old approach from the sitting president as the president-elect embarks on how he will get us back to normal and stamp out covid-19 nationwide. but no plan from team biden matters until january 20th when joe biden takes the oath and can put it into action. so what happens from now until then? with the sitting president apparently unwilling or unable
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to take control of this virus, due in part to his refusal to accept his own electoral defeat. tonight we dig into all of it as team trump continues its uphill effort in court to overturn the will of the american people. this is "american voices." as we come on the air tonight, coronavirus numbers are spiking to horrific levels, and no state is immune from this latest wave. in fact, the u.s. is shattering records almost daily. friday 175,000 new cases reported. despite this raging reality, our sitting president still has no major plan to save americans from getting the virus or succumbing to it. >> ideally, we won't go to a lockdown. i will not go. this administration will not be going to a lockdown. hopefully the whatever h
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