good morning. it is sunday, november the 15th. i'm ali velshi. we are 66 days from president-elect joe biden's inauguration. donald trump has yet to concede. however, just moments ago trump tweeted of biden, quote, he won because the election was rigged. seemingly the first time donald trump has admitted that biden won, although his reasoning remains false. the tweet is full of falsehoods, but it is the first time he has acknowledged joe biden won. still, while we live in one country we continue down two very different paths. one based in reality and the other on a myth, a figment of donald trump's imagination. yesterday the soon-to-be ex-president fanned flames that only serve to further damage our democracy and continue to claim that the election was stolen, which it wasn't. he just lost. indeed, he lost in a, quote,

massive landslide using trump's own words from 2016 in which he had the same electoral college count as biden does now only it was in his favor. funny how things change. riled up by his rhetoric, his followers took to the streets of washington, d.c., to protest what they claim is a stolen election which, again, it was not. yesterday's festivities was filled with a who's who of white nationalists and segments of the conspiracy theory population among us, people who truly believe in things like devil worshipping and pedophilia rings run out of pizza parlors and other things reminiscent of stories from 1950s magazines and best suited for the fiction section of bookstores. at least 20 were arrested as things became more tense after nightfall. it comes amid the very real and right now very out-of-control surge in covid-19 across the country. yesterday's events in which thousands crowded into d.c. may end up being the latest super

spreader situation traced back to trump. the last one seems to be the party that he threw to celebrate the election that he ultimately lost. prior to that it was his supreme court rose garden ceremony and most of the maskless rallies in the final moments of his campaign. and therein lies the difference because while there were celebrations across the country last weekend when the election was called for joe biden the opening majority of people were clad in masks. like most pro-trump events, mask wearing was sparse at yesterday's demonstration in washington, d.c. by the way, masks work, period, better than anything else in the stopping of the spread of covid-19 and now facing cases and deaths in a state filled with overwhelmed hospitals, north dakota has finally, eight months in, issued a statewide mask mandate in addition to other restrictions. oregon and new mexico have also announced partial lockdowns. here in new york we have new

restrictions. new covid-19 cases are rising. it's not a number i say very often, in 54 states and territories. every single one. 45 states and territories have now seen a greater than 25% increase in covid-19 cases in the last two weeks, total cases in the united states are nearing 1 million and more than 246,000 americans are dead. remember that the trump white house predicted at the very worst 240,000 americans would die. the number they initially stated was 180,000 to 240,000 if they did nothing. 220,000, i'm sorry. 240,000 was the final number they gave. this adds more evidence to the mountain that shows what an utter failure this president and his administration have been in the face of this crisis. they have exceeded their own maximum expectations.

coming up next hour we'll answer your questions about what you need to do to survive the next wave, because it will be months before there's a vaccine or a treatment. by the way, trump didn't even show up at the maga march yesterday. he teased he would but this is him. he drove through it. he did a drive by on the way to his latest round of golf. he went golfing instead of standing among his own people really continuing to pull the wool over the eyes of those who blindly follow him. the only cause donald trump believes in is donald j. trump. joe biden went for a morning bike ride with his wife jill. the president-elect later met with transition advisers saying he's close to making cabinet decisions. there may be a big one. this woman who you're looking at, you may not know her, she's a bill deal. senior former pentagon official michele flournoy is one of

biden's top choices for secretary of defense. the role that is acting in president trump. michele flournoy would be the first woman to hold the position. she was at one time one of the highest ranking women in the history of the pentagon holding the title of undersecretary of defense for policy from 2009 to 2012. she was also very high up on hillary clinton's list had she won. get familiar with this name and this woman's face. we don't know whether it's a done deal or not but it is rumored to be the case. joining me now katrina mulligan, preparedness and response and national security division at the justice department. she now serves as managing director for national security and international policy at the center for american progress. also with me pulitzer prize winning journalist nicole jones

with "the new york times" magazine covering race from 1619 through the president. thanks to her we all know what 1619 means now. another one of those numbers we didn't know even a year ago. thanks to both of you for joining us. katrina, let's start with you. this is your basket of expertise. let's talk about the possibility of michelle flournoy as defense secretary. >> i think it would be wonderful. i think more importantly than anything else she's imminently qualified. and would a tremendous amount of expertise. she would be the first woman to run the defense department would be its own achievement. she has quite a lot to bring to the table in terms of her understanding of the department and the way it works. she would be far more qualified than almost all of the appointees that trump put in the

positions in the pentagon. >> nicole, the million maga march yesterday didn't have a million people at it. maybe 10,000 or 20,000. we're not sure. the president's press secretary said there were a million people there. they have some issues with numbers as you know, as you specifically know because you've introduced the number 1619 to our lexicon that the white house specifically has trouble with. this seems to be the last gasp, right? the million maga march was it, americans coming out saying this election was stolen, it's all wrong. wasn't the thing it turned out be to be. >> ali, thanks for having me on and, also, happy dewali to all who celebrate. even the title was borrowed from the million-man march. we've seen again and again they can't even be original in their protest. i don't know that i believe in such a thing as a last gasp.

i've been spending the last couple of days rereading david blythe's "race and reunion." he talks about how at the end of the civil war the confederates were beaten but they weren't loyal. and so losing actually only strengthened their resolve to continue to sow division. a historian talked the other day about how what we saw during the era of mass resistance where politicians understood they were on the losing side. the supreme court had determined you couldn't segregate schools, and yet they were determined to come up with all of these false constitutional premises, to tell their supporters that they were going to continue to fight what the rest of the country considered to be a losing battle and they largely, if you look at our schools today, won that battle even if they didn't win it legally.

i wish we could say we're in the last gasp. i don't know that's true. i don't think they turn around. >> and the mythology of the last cause went on for a long time and created sort of martyrs out of those heroes, those confederate statues we all have was that mythology of the lost cause. by the way, thank you for the dewali wishes. i ordered indian takeout. that was my celebration. katrina, this idea nikole is talking about, there are a lot of republicans, elected republicans, mainstream, not people like the people out in the streets yesterday in d.c. who were prompted by white supremacists and nationalists and qanon people, mainstream republicans undermining democracy right now by not saying they're mad that joe biden won. that's fully understandable, but by suggesting that there is not legitimacy to this election, by not acknowledging the election of joe biden, by the gsa not

giving him the keys to the place and then there are career civil servants to are stuck in the middle of this whole thing. >> it's a nightmare. civil servants want to serve whoever is the elected representative. they were happy to serve trump. they'll be happy to serve biden. what they want most of all is to serve the american people. so when the peaceful transition of power is impeded, when things -- when obstructions are put in the way that make it harder for people on the incoming biden transition team to get access to the information and the career civil servants that they need in order to plan for a transition and get ready during incredibly uncertain times, that's not in the interests of the american people and, once again, what we're seeing is donald trump getting his political appointees to act

in his personal interests and not in the interests of the united states. we've seen this pattern over and over again. sometimes i wonder when is it going to be enough for republicans? when are they going to decide that their oath to the constitution, to the american people, means more to them because there are serious national security consequences. the biden team is prepared. they're going to do a phenomenal job whether or not they get the keys at their ready. there's no question that without the presidential daily brief, without access to classified information, all of these things are being impeded right now, that they're not as prepared as they could be, and that's something that donald trump needs to think about. he owes an obligation to his successor. and right now he's not fulfilling it. >> nikole, i don't know if it was your first piece for 1619 it may have been, but i remember reading about you arguing the case that african-americans had played such a role in american

democracy and that the completion of american democracy would not have taken place without the inclusion of african-americans and their involvement. they came out in massive numbers and highly influenced the final outcome. at the very same moment authoritarianism is presenting itself in a way we have never seen before in america. we are seeing authoritarianism rear its head like it has in other countries, like it did in post-world war germany. how do you bring these two together? we've had more democracy in this election than we've ever had before, more people voted for joe biden than ever voted for a presidential candidate in history. more african-americans participated as candidates and voters in this election and yet we seem to be still flirting with autocracy. >> there have been recent studies that show white conservatives are willing to suspend democratic values if

they think that minorities are coming into power. so that has been our history. we're not founded as a true democracy. we were founded as a democracy for white men. it has been black people and other marginalized groups, including women, who are celebrating 100th anniversary of their ability to exercise the franchise in a so-called democracy that have gotten us here. when we look at the bloody internal struggle for democracy they have been built around the expansion of defensemen cresmoce who are not white men. we have not had a true democracy in this country until 1965 with the passage of the voting rights act. and so the only known coup in america, the only recognized coup was wilmington, north carolina, where white conservatives overthrew a multiracial democratically elected government. so this is not shocking that we're seeing all of this following the election of barack

obama with a broad multiracial coalition, that we're seeing this outrage and suspicion to suspend the country's demography is changing. which country are we going to be? >> right. south africa was a democracy until they decided the black people were going to vote and then it didn't seem like such a good idea. thanks to both of you. katrina mulligan with the justice department and nikole hannah-jones, co-founder of the 1619 project. it turns out president trump's acting secretary of homeland security was, in fact, acting unlawfully when he moved to suspend the daca program in july. what this latest court ruling could mean for hundreds of thousands of dreamers in this country. we're going to talk about it with senator tim kaine. right after this break, the impact of the coronavirus pandemic. ght moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis.

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in a major win for immigration rights advocates a federal court in brooklyn, new york, said yesterday the acting secretary of homeland security chad wolf assumed his position with the department unlawfully and that thereby invalidated his actions which include his suspension of daca, the deferred action for childhood arrivals. this refers to the dreamers. wolf was never officially confirmed by the senate. he was severing as an acting secretary in trump's cabinet for over a year. this is typical of trump appointees. the district court judge wrote in his ruling yesterday that, quote, based on the plain text of the operative order of succession, neither mr. mcaleenan nor, in turn, mr. wolf had authority to serve as acting secretary. therefore the wolf memorandum

was not an exercise of legal authority, end quote. this is not the first time the courts have upheld dacan. june the supreme court ruled that the trump administration wrongly tried to end the protections that were put in place by the obama-era executive order. but wolf initiated suspension of the program even after that ruling limiting its applications and renewals. for those of you who don't remember, daca is extremely popular. 74% of americans believe the dreamers should be granted legal status, according to a poll from the pugh research center. 74% of americans don't agree on anything, by the way, including what day it is today. it's also worth noting that president-elect joe biden has said that his administration will reinstate daca when he enters the oval office in january. i want to bring in virginia senator tim kaine, former vice presidential candidate tim kaine. thank you for being with us.

i'm not sure that this is the solution to daca because there are still policy matters to be worked out, but one of the things about joe biden's election as i traveled around the country it's one of the things i heard from people is that if you were looking for immigrants, which we are mathematically and economically in this country, these daca people are exactly who you would choose, these kids. >> right, absolutely. we have about 13,000 to 15,000 daca recipients in virginia and i meet them all the time, they're the high school valedictorian, doing well in community colleges and colleges. they're joining our military. we want these kids to be here and that's why the pact is such a popular one to provide them legal protection. my hope is that president biden on day one will reinstate the daca program. it is the case that ultimately congress needs to do this so

there's a permanency to it and these young people don't get whip sided back and forth between different administrations. >> 94% of americans support it including the majority of republicans. even your republican colleagues in the senate, something should be able to get done about this. this trump administration was weird insofar as it thought that we needed to cut immigration in this country this is simple mathematics, we don't have enough children, we don't give birth to enough children, we need more children for our growing economy. can this get done congressionally? that's how it should be in the end. >> i think it can get done without president trump in place. in february of 2018 lindsey graham and i along with angus king, we put together a proposal. the white house said send us a proposal to do border security and you work it out and we'll agree to it. we put together a proposal that

was a tough swallow because it was $25 billion in border security money over ten years spent the right way, not the wrong way, in full protection for dreamers. we had 16 co-sponsors. within 24 hours of announcing it, the trump administration said we were trying to end all immigration laws. why? because they hate dreamers. it doesn't matter what kind of immigra immigrant, student visas, tourist visas, people with green cards trying to become citizens. they have made everything harder for immigrants. >> you're right. >> and understand that these dreamers should have a path forward. >> coders, who we are desperate for, they're still stopping them. they just don't like immigrants or most immigrants. i want to ask you about michele flournoy. i had a conversation with her a few months ago about global

threats. she is a very informed person as it relates to things and she's the first one we're talking about after the appointment of ron klain. do you know of her and have you had a chance to work with her? >> i have worked very closely with michelle and think highly of her. joe biden will have great choices but about michele, i have the highest regard for her. she is a military spouse and a military mom. and on the armed services committee, ali, we deal with an awful lot of issues that affect military families. the word in the military is you attract and recruit by going to the recruit. when you get them to re-up by making the case to the family and michele is a spouse and a military mom would bring a tremendous understanding of not just those in active service but the families that need to be

there to support them and what policies we should have to back them up. >> senator, good to see you as always. thank you for taking the time to join us. senator tim kaine of virginia. he is on the armed services committee as well as foreign relations, health education, labor and pensions and the budget committee. he has his work cut out for him. thank you, sir. i want to bring in democratic representative ayanna pressley. >> good to be with you, ali. >> the thing you actually got done in congress some months ago and that is passing an act that would extend economic benefits to people who are stuck in this coronavirus. the senate has largely wished that away, the republicans and senate have largely wished that away. they just didn't do it. i read a story from a young man just a few moments ago who he and his mother have cut their meals to one a day and cut them again because they're out of money, their unemployment benefits don't continue. you passed this bill.

what will happen now? americans can't wait until january 20th when joe biden gets sworn in. >> they certainly can't wait, that $1,200 one-time payment has long since gone. that has been exacerbated by the pandemic and this fire hose of insult we've been drinking from for the last four years. food pantry lines around the corner in my district, community based advocates i've spoken to, we can see as much as 60,000 families displaced. we have to act with urgency and with boldness. i will be advocating for reoccuring cash payments and that should not exclude our immigrant neighbors, for the canceling of student debt, for the canceling of rent, and

certainly just anything that mitigates the hurt and that includes supporting our small businesses. the landscape is very stark, almost 50% of them are not expected to reopen their doors and that's why the legislation introduced by myself and senator harris, the saving our street act, $124.5 billion grant program is something i'll be advocating for to be included in the relief packages. we have failed the american people. in my district an 11-year-old constituent, a single parent household, mom in a hospital fighting for her life. her 11-year-old daughter caring for her 9-month-old little brother for two weeks before anyone knew that she was there alone. having run out of groceries and diapers. this is an undocumented family. and so instead of asking for help for fear of being met with

punishment instead of compassion, that 11-year-old little girl suffered, and i learned about her, our office was connected to her through an agency in the district. when they went to provide help for her she greeted them at the door with her little brother in a towel soiled put together by safety pins. i wish that i could tell that you family, that little girl, is an anomaly but she is not. that has been donald trump's america. we are finally turning the page on this dark chapter in our history. we must act with boldness to mitigate the hurt and the scale and scope of this crisis. >> i don't know whether you follow donald trump on twitter, i don't, he re-tweeted something else and it's like most of donald trump's tweets, full of lies, and twitter has noted that. but he starts off with he won because the election was rigged. the second part of the sentence is a little weird, but it's the first time we've heard from

donald trump that joe biden won. what do you expect to happen in the coming days? there are two realities, the biden administration moving forward with policies and covid relief and the trump administration saying weird stuff on a daily basis and standing in the way handling the transition. >> well, history and the laws are on our side in this instance. it's yet another -- i interest it to be not only pathetic but patriotic. we have always had a seamless transition of power. it's a pillar of our democracy. a pillar of our institution. the person i referred to as the occupant for the last four years is now hellbent on squatting in the oval office is no surprise. we have the law and the courts and history on our side. he will move on. and then we must do the work of

recovery and reset. i don't want a recovery both in the economic impact and in getting this raging virus under control. now we need to reset and might i add we need to be actively anti-racist. history is written by the winners. we won because of the most marginalized people victims of policy violence, of discriminatory policies, indigenous people, african-americans, disabled folk, young people who went and met the moment -- this movement met the moment. democracy is breathing another day. we are turning the page on this dark chapter and we must meeted

needs of those in this moment. that means being bold and actively anti-racist and not hypocrites. the only things that matter in that reset and recovery are policies and budgets. >> sometimes i get up on a sunday morning and i haven't had enough sleep, but you always get me going thinking about the possibilities that exist. thank you for mentioning indigenous people. very shortly i'll be speaking to your colleague representative deb holland about ways in which we can start to address some of the injustices done across this people. thank you again, we appreciate it. >> president-elect joe biden has promised to piece together a diverse cabinet. how biden could break more gender and race barriers in the west wing. he uses fresh, clean ingredients

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turning back to president-elect joe biden's cabinet watch, nbc news has learned that a former senior pentagon official, michele flournoy is one of joe biden's top choices to become the next secretary of defense f. she were to be confirmed by the senate, that would mark the first time a woman has ever held that position. biden's being urged to make history to be the first person -- the first president, to have a native american in his or her cabinet, specifically, possibly, as the secretary of the interior which plays a major role in the distribution of federal land and in native american issues. native americans played an important part in biden's electoral victory so it makes sense to see them represented at one of the highest levels of government. the interior department is responsible for honoring treaties with native american tribes, something the federal government has failed to do time after time after time, dozens,

hundreds of times actually. joining me is someone whose name has been floated as a potential interior pick, democratic congresswoman deb holland of new mexico, from the natural reserve committee and one of two women elected to congress. good to see you again. congratulations on your re-election. you have been so helpful to me in understanding native american issues. i was in your part of the country. we really tried to get voices of native americans into the conversation and one thing i kept hearing from them is that nobody has been that equitable with native americans, republicans or democrats, and they have real concerns that coincide with the concerns of other americans, namely climate and land. and that is something we don't all think about all the time but native americans do all the time. >> yes. this is our land, ali, before this was the united states it

was all indian country. and so we care about this land. we want to protect it and, you know, that's why you saw the folks at standing rock protest the oil pipeline. that's why the folks in minnesota protested the pipeline, why we want a return to its larger space because it's filled with ancestral homeland of tribal nations and so we care deeply about the land and want to see it protected. >> what's the link with the department of interior? if you're a conservationist, you know about it. if you are an outsider who wants to protect it from public use, you know about it. for most americans it's not the thing that they think about the most. what's the connection to native americans?

>> well, yes. the department of the interior manages all of our public lands across the country, the national parks service is under the department of the interior but we -- it also manages the trust and treaty as you mentioned in your opening to indian tribes. and so there is an assistant secretary of indian affairs in the interior department. and so, yes, indian tribes have long been active in their roles to make sure that their issues are being championed and as you mentioned, also, and thank you for always wanting to cover indigenous issues, native americans came out strongly for president-elect joe biden because they know that he cares

about their issues. one of the big things i've noticed in congress and the natural resources committee is that this administration, the trump administration, has essentially tossed tribal consultation out the window. that's one of the relationships between indian tribes and the u.s. government is tribal consultation. joe biden has that in his platform and has pledged to have a robust tribal consultation. i think that's a great way to start out. >> this week more than 120 elected tribal leaders and intertribal organizations sent a letter to joe biden saying it's long pastime for an indigenous person to serve in a cabinet position particularly at the interior department. they used your name. they said representative haaland

is more than qualified as serving as secretary of the interior and would be a great choice. i'm not going to put you in a position of lobbying but if offered, would you accept it? >> well, i mean, is that best for our country? will that add to joe biden's commitment to diversity? of course anyone would be honored to accept a cabinet secretary position, and i just want to say that, you know, one of the things that's important here is that whoever gets that position recognizes that climate change is the challenge of our time, that our federal lands will play a role in ensuring that we are moving toward a solution to climate change, and that, in and of itself, is something that indian tribes care deeply about. i am so proud already of

president-elect biden, giving us the first woman of color vice president. we've discussed that, too. it's exciting that he is working to make his administration like america and so i look forward to that. >> we always look forward to having you on the show. whether you continue as a member of congress in new mexico or in a different job, we hope you'll continue to join us and make these issues -- bring these issues to the forefront for our viewers. democratic congresswoman deb haaland of new mexico. november feels like march. hospitals are overloaded. doctors are overworked. our frontline workers are begging for help. we got this tweet from a nurse in south dakota. it sums it all up. i'm not okay with dying because of my job. i cried while i suited up to go into our covid unit. please acknowledge me. ay season, it's all about the bedroom. and with caspers black friday sale, you can save up to 30%

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so i do feel that being on the frontline we do need the support of the community around us. we are begging all the health care workers who are in this da getting our families, putting our families at risk every day. we are here for you. we're also begging for you to just take this serious. social distance so that we can get through this and so that we can have the beds we need in this hospital to care for you and your family. >> that was maria paiz, a registered nurse supervisor at the university of new mexico hospital in albuquerque, right in the heart of a state that's seeing a huge surge in new covid cases. front line workers like maria are struggling to give care and treat patients right now, just desperately trying to hold down the fort as resources run low

and icu beds fill up. the same story repeating itself all over the country. another day, yet another record number of new coronavirus cases in the u.s. yesterday alone, there were more than 156,000 new cases across the country. on friday, we hit an all-time high, over 176,000. for more on this, let's bring in dr. ayla stanford, who's been on the fron lit lines in the philadelphia area. she's the founder of black doctors covid-19 consortium. we had the pleasure of being together, i think it was a couple of weeks ago in philadelphia. dr. stanford, good to see you. people ask me, hasn't this been tough reporting on this for the last eight months? i just talk. health care workers have been at it, physically, putting themselves at risk of getting ill and making their families sick. we're now into eight months. we're into the ninth month of this now. and there are real concerns. not only about the physical health, but the mental health of

the front line workers. and you are one of them. >> absolutely. it's taking a toll on everyone. 5% of my staff have contracted coronavirus at this point, where they need to isolate away from their families. and we worry about their health every single day. our positivity rates are up to 17 to 20% in philadelphia, in montgomery county. the schools are now going to be all virtual, as we continue to stae assess. these are very, very challenging and stressful times for us. >> i want to talk to you about something that you've been involved in, and that is, philadelphia is one of those places where there's been extended vote counting. it's one of those parts of the country where the voting hasn't stopped -- the voting has stopped, obviously, but the counting hasn't stopped. and there has been some spread of coronavirus amidst those people who -- those nameless people who work so hard to actually sort of make our democracy come through. you were involved in that, as

well. >> we were involved and i appreciate the philadelphia city commissioners reaching out to us to ask for our assistance. but, yes, they had an outbreak and they called on us, we were actually at a testing site, testing and serving over 400 people the night before, and we were able to arrive for them in less than 12 hours to test the staff and employees. and they may still be counting, but they provided the service for the nation, and it was the least we could do, was be ready and test them at the convention center on friday. >> i don't know if you heard. i was talking with congresswoman ayanna pressley from massachusetts a little bit earlier, and she was talking about the fact that we still haven't fully come to terms with the fact that people of color and people without means are suffering more from covid-19. she had a very touching story about people who don't even have treatment. they can't even ask for help. there's nowhere for them to go. we are talking today about people who are running out of money, because we're not getting them the financial assistance they need. this is a point you made to me

when we were in philadelphia. that you're actually trying to get there -- get out to the black community. and at least get people tested and then get them treatment, if they're suffering from symptoms of covid. >> that's correct. and that's all we have, without a cure. you need testing and you need contact tracing. and still, when people came out to us, they were unable to -- a lot of the mobile units are closing, because it's winter time. we are one of the few places that are still open with extended hours. people are still asking for state-issued idea. they're still asking for co-pays. they're still asking for symptoms and co-morbid conditions. and now, where we get our kits from are telling us that they have to pull back. so they're losing resources, they don't have as many testing kis kits, now it's deja vu of rationing who gets tested and who doesn't get tested. and unfortunately when that happens, african-americans and

latin-x get the short end of the stick and they're twhe ones contracting the disease and dying at a higher rate. i would say to hospitals in philadelphia and around the nation, open your doors, provide the access. the cares act is reimbursing you for those tests. no longer can we say, stay at home until you're sick enough to be admitted. because by the time people show up, they're dying on your doorstep. and prior to them getting there, they've spread it all over their communities, because they are essential workers going to work and infecting their families. we cannot repeat what happened in april and may. >> you tested 209 people on november 7th in southwest philadelphia. 10% came back positive. that's twice the positivity rates that experts say signals uncontrolled community spread. so thank you for what you're doing. we'll continue to have this conversation. dr. ayla stanford is a pediatric and general surgeon in the philadelphia area. she's the founder of the black

doctors covid-19 consortium. before we head to break, here's a live look at the hand count of the votes in georgia. this is fulton county, the county which atlanta is. the counting process, election workers sit at tables in teams of two for each ballot. they examine -- they both examine the ballot, they verify the voters' choice for president and the ballot is thrown into a pile for that candidate. the process repeats 5 million times, literally. seems rather arduous, but that is democracy in action that you're looking at. don't go anywhere, our coronavirus conversation continues next. a special hour of "velshi: surviving the next wave." kevin o'leary will answer your questions about how to make it through the next few months. still time to answer some questions. "velshi: surviving the next wave" after this. "velshi: surviving the next wave" after this you'll have access to tax-smart investing strategies, and with brokerage accounts online trades are commission free. personalized advice. unmatched value. at fidelity, you can have both.

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good morning. it is sunday, november 15th. i'm ali velshi. much has changed in a week. after a long election season, joe biden was named president-elect. roughly 78.5 million americans cast ballots for him. the highest number of votes received by any presidential candidate in u.s. history. it's also about 5 million more votes than donald trump got. a short time ago, trump tweeted of biden. he, quote, won because the election was rigged. it was the first time the sulking commander in chief admitted to biden piece victory, although his accompanying