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msnbc world headquarters. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." new alarming numbers on covid-19 released. a big development in the pandemic in the last hour. confirmed cases in the u.s. have surpassed now 11 million. the u.s. added more than 156,000 new cases saturday. it is certainly an upward trend happening across the country. and as soon as this hour washington governor jay inslee is expected to announce new restrictions that reportedly include a ban on indoor dining. washington state hit a new record in daily cases adding more than 2200 on saturday. new jersey has added more than 4,000 cases yesterday. that is the highest number since early april. restaurants and bars there must now close by 10:00 p.m. and the co-chair of the president-elect biden's task force said the country might not need to go into a nationwide lockdown to slow the spread of the virus. >> the way we think about

lockdowns is i think different than it was in the spring and the spring when we didn't know a lot about covid we responded in a sense with an on/off switch. we just shut things down because, you know, we didn't know exactly how this was spreading and where it was spreading. we learned a mott since then that tells us the better way to think about these restrictions is a dial we turn up and down depending on severity. >> cory coughlin, we'll begin with you. the minneapolis-st. paul airport. what is the latest from there. >> yeah, we're finding out this is the deadliest week in minnesota since this pandemic began. some 16,000 new cases reported overnight. it brings the total to 224 thousa24,000.

they're trying to ramp up testing which is why we're here at the airport. this is the latest testing facility to be added. saliva tests being done behind us and we can't show you because of hippa laws but patients throughout the area and overflow showing how big the need is here in minnesota. some 60,000 tests being done every day. i spoke with the department of health about why this is so crucial to minnesotans in fighting the pandemic. >> i think it's a scary time for everyone. i know testing can give us peace of mind. but it's also -- it empowers all of us. the virus is getting worse and we're a hot spot in the upper midwest and every one of us has the power to stop it, by getting tested, wearing masks, by social distancing and staying home when sick. >> reporter: new guidelines from

the governor including less than ten people gathering, 25 unders for weddings and funeral and 10:00 p.m. curfew for restaurants and bar. >> thank you for that. chicago residents are getting ready for a stay-at-home advisory that goes into effect tomorrow morning. the city now has more than 131,000 cases, in% of all of the cases in illinois. let's go to cal perry in chicago for us. cal, what are people saying about the new advisory? are there expectations they'll pay attention to it? >> well, i think the concern is that unlike six months ago when we had our first advisory the economy last gotten much, much worse. thousands of businesses since then have gone under. there is to stimulus package. so the concern amongst officials here is that folks aren't going to take it as seriously when you look at the situation inside the hospitals, when you look at the numbers, these graphs are all headed in the wrong direction. nine days in a row of straight high case, more than 10,000 cases in the state per day. hospitals operating at close to

capacity, some are having to make those very difficult digs about who gets treated and who does not. the mayor here who put that advisory in place starting in the morning, that stay-at-home advisory is concerned as everybody is about how bad it can get between now and sort of christmas. she was on msnbc earlier this morning. take a listen. >> well, to be blunt our projections show that if we do not significantly change the course of this pandemic in our city in the next seven weeks between now and the end of the year, we stand to lose conservatively another 1,000 chicagoans to death. and standing by and watching that kind of devastation is not something i could abide. >> reporter: now the last step officials could take would be a statewide stay-at-home order from the governor. the governor saying he hopes he doesn't have to get there but, of course, the situation does seem to be worsening. i will speak on behalf of doctors about thanksgiving. we've been at hospitals a lot over the past few weeks, doctors

and nurses willing going in and working thanksgiving so if you can have a virtual thanksgiving they are literally begging people especially in the midwest to do just that. >> heartbreaking. okay, cal perry, thank you so much from chicago. well, joining me now nbc must medical contributor dr. bedelia of the special pathogens unit at boston medical. you have first responders, doctor, nurse, begging people to have virtual holidays this year. what do you think? >> good afternoon, alex. i agree with that. that's one other way that we can stave off potential lockdowns is our behavior. i heard dr. osterholm and dire warnings and increasing cases. right now today about nine states are reporting severely

constrained icu capacity. >> dr. bhadelia. very that sound bite. let's play that right now for everybody. here's that. >> we are in a very dangerous period. the most dangerous public health period since 1918. what we saw happen in people dying on the streets after ten hours waiting to be seen. that's going to start happening. it doesn't care what party you are, where you live. we have to understand that's what we have to work on right now. i think it is the health care systems breaking, literal breaking that will bring us to a sense of reality of what we must do in the short term. >> yikes. the system is breaking. i mean, you agree with that dire prediction? >> i do, alex, i've seen it. in potentially less resource settings i've seen it. the magazinitude of our outbrea

our pandemic, a portion of the cases you see will lead to hospitalizations which would then lead to deaths. the more hospitalizations we have, you're basically affecting the quality of care that patients can get, not just for covid but other conditions, as well, because health care workers are exhausted, likely to get overwhelmed. the more they get the more likely they're potentially to get infected and less people to help. it's a cycle and see it in every large epidemic i've been part of and need to protect health systems. peep don't stop having other medical problems. the gist of it looking at the warn seigenthaler that there are policies, you know, dr. vivek murthy talked about could have precise rollbacks of re-openings and, yes, that really helps but one of the other challenges is the disinformation that's out there and big part of how we expend our energy is getting the message out there to people that -- how severe it is and so my call isn't to the biden

administration because they haven't taken over but to the trump administration. please, unmuzzle our public health scientists, let our cdc scientists talk. let the full force of our public health infrastructure get out there and get the message out about how bad things can get so we don't have to get to a point where either the health systems get overwhelmed or that we have to have a widespread lockdown that could hurt us economically even more. >> let me ask about the first doses of the coronavirus vaccine. if they are administered next month as dr. fauci has said, to the first responders, that's where they'll go first, will the winter months and holiday season be as bad as many fear? i mean how long will it take to affect the back to normalcy return with the implementation of a vaccine? >> yeah, alex, i think, you know, you and i have talked about this, the fact that there is a time line and an optimistic time line by spring there will be a lot more doses of vaccine or a couple of different vaccines but it's really not until potentially until early

summer we might see coverage of the entire population to a point where we could start letting down some of the public health mitigation points. in the winter the things that could affect the success is we know pfizer has shown some efficacious data. let's see if it gets emergency use authorization. if moderna or other producers have a vaccine turn out to have equally successful vaccines, then that means we have even more doses and that means health care workers and first responders, more of them will get vaccinated sooner and helps a little bit. doesn't get us out of the woods that everybody else that could get sick. >> dr. nahid. thanks for talking with us. washington, d.c., eight days after joe biden was projected the winner president trump seemingly admitting his loss for the first time with two words in a tweet, he won, the president then backtracking writing in another tweet, i concede nothing. biden's chief of staff reacting to that on "meet the press".

>> i accept it as a further confirmation of the reality that joe biden won the election and not through any of the rest of that tweet, not through fraud or anything else the president is baselessly alleging, he won because he got more votes. that's why he won. in the popular vote by a lot and won the same number of electoral votes that president trump called a landslide four years ago. if the president's prepared to begin to recognize that reality that's positive, donald trump's twitter feed doesn't make joe biden president or not president. the american people did that. >> and on capitol hill, the call for trump to concede are growing as the delay is already keeping president-elect biden from receiving lie level intelligence briefings and complicated pandemic planning. >> i believe my republican colleagues in congress, if they care about this country at all, if they have a whit of care about democracy, they would disown all of that and they would immediately demand and if they're afraid to do it on their

own, come fogt as a group of 20 or 30 and immediately demand that, you know, we get this transition going. >> and all this comes as covid cases surge nationwide. today new york governor andrew cuomo directly calling on the president to act. >> president trump must learn the lesson, stop the abuse. stop the division. stop the anger. stop the hatred. stop the narcissisticism and repair the damage you have done. >> josh lederman is in washington and joins us from his post above the white house. look, the president appears to acknowledge defeat. then he's blaming his loss on a string of conspiracy theories. where do things stand? >> one, there is no viable legal

path for the president's legal team to overturn joe biden's victory in this election. the second according to multiple people who are familiar with the president's think something that there is no chance that the president is going to come out and say, congratulations, president-elect biden, you have won this frayer and square so a contradiction here that has been playing out throughout the morning on the president's twitter feed as it often does with the president first tweeting, he won, referring to president-elect biden because the election was rigged. seeming in that tweet to acknowledge the fact that president-elect biden has won this election. but then as that started to go around on social media within minutes, the president walking that back and saying he only won in the eyes of the fake news media. i concede nothing. minutes after the president sent that follow-up tweet, alex, a white house official texted our colleague to say the president doesn't really believe that. but then we heard from the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, take a listen to what he had to say about whether

president trump is really conceding. >> no, no, no far from it. what he's saying is more i guess, you know, you'd call it sarcastic or a comment on the terrible times in which we live in which the media has said he won. but by going on to point out that it was illegal, obviously he's contesting it vigorously in the courts. >> and, alex, not just the message here but also the messenger. rudy giuliani who sources tell us is causing a lot of the pessimism among the president's team, the fact that the president had to resort to putting someone who's been so discredited as the face of this is creating a lot of questions about the viability of the legal operation that he has trying to carry it forward. >> i have to ask you, is there any consideration being given to the fact that perhaps another attorney didn't step forward and say, okay, i'll carry this particular mantel and go forward with challenging the election results? do we know if anybody else wanted the job? >> well, david bossie wanted the

job, the president's former deputy campaign manager but got coronavirus and had to aside and others have declined to participate in it and taken themselves off cases so a mix, some are sidelined and the others see the writing on the wall and don't want to be part of it. >> josh lederman, thank you so much. from there to the mounting concern in the biden camp over the delayed access to a presidential transition process. alley vitaly is joining me. it's not the only issue certainly that team is preparing to tackle. >> not the only issue and the priority. but if you listen to the shows, bernie sanders saying we knew progressives would be ready to lobby and challenge this administration on key progressive issues. bernie sanders spoke to that this morning. listen to what he said.

>> during the early part, we worked out proposals on some of the major issues facing this country including health care, including the economy, education, climate change and so forth and so on. i expect they will advocate those that they agreed to. commonsense ideas that the majority of the american people support and we'll fietsd to make sure they're implemented. >> reporter: so, alex, a lot of issues you heard bernie sanders talking about those are things the biden transition are laser focused on and just found out we're going to hear from biden tomorrow here in wilmington, delaware, along with vice president-elect kamala harris. they'll talk about the economy, but all of this comes against the backdrop of the transition and the future staffing announcements that we're expecting to hear from this transition beet in terms of what the west wing and administration will look like but also in terms

of what the cabinet will look like. biden said they will look like america and in new data i just got from the transition, we're seeing that women make up more than 50% of transition staff, people of color make up more than 40% of transition staff. and they're promising as they go forward in staffing this administration, they're going to continue with that kind of reflective governing body. >> a point we all appreciate you sharing. thank you so much, ali vitali. how president-elect biden will deliver for the community that cemented his win is next. before voltaren arthritis pain gel, my husband would have been on the sidelines. but not anymore! an alternative to pills voltaren is the first full prescription strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel to target pain directly at the source

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president trump is striking out with election related lawsuits in michigan. the detroit free presses said they were named in the wrong courts and had no connection to those being sued. joining me now derrick johnson, president and ceo of the naacp.

hey, glad to have you back on the broadcast. the naacp in detroit which describes it as an all-out attack on votes cast by black voters. how about your interpretation of this? >> well, it's not even an interpretation. it's a fact. if you look at the lawsuits filed it's because of vote counting in jurisdictions that are overwhelmingly african-american and the naacp we have intervened in lawsuits in michigan, pennsylvania, georgia, everywhere they filed these we see this as a direct attack on the legitimacy of black voters being able to participate. we thought we won this fight in 1956 but with this administration we must always continue to fight to ensure that our voices and votes are counted. >> interestingly i want to ask about what "the washington post's" eugene scott wrote, black voters delivered democrats the presidency. now they are caught in the middle of its internal battle and black lives matter

co-founder patrice colors wrote for a meeting with kamala harris and joe biden. so first i want to ask you, what that internal bat surveillance all about and how are black voters caught in the middle? >> well, i'm not aware of a battle. i see individuals from our community well positioned within the administration that was a strong call this summer to have a black female as a running made. i have a seen congressman cedric richmond play a profound role and providing information we are looking for with this administration names the first black female as second of agriculture. that is a big push and our opportunity to really present the case of why we can govern much stronger, much differently than we've done in the past. not as a plaque community but as americans.

here's an opportunity. there is no fight that i'm aware of. >> so then derrick, is this enough. is this exactly the kind of thing that the president-elect needs to deliver and inspire confidence from the community? >> you know, it was roosevelt who said agree with you now make me do it. i don't anyone's commitment but in the game of politics there is the give and take and the voices that at the table that's strongest, loudest oftentimes recede. for african-americans, we're going to continue to push. >> are there specific needs that joe biden needs to address and to push and promote forward in his administration that you feel need to be addressed on behalf of black voters? i grant you it's not a monolith there but in just general. >> economic opportunity is absolutely crucial. addressing the student loan debt crisis that's impacting all

communities but particularly african-american communities and also need to modify between governing when you have a split congress so there will be black voters turning out like never before in georgia who can address this issue. the republican has control of the house and senate for two years and they could not move any legislation. now this is an opportunity not only to celebrate the victory but have to still address the senate and determine whether or not that's going to be a split congress or a unified congress to push forth and agenda that's more reflective of america but particularly african-american. >> yeah, absolutely. let me look at some numbers here from nbc's exit polling, derrick, with you, 79% of black men voted for biden. 19% voted for trump but i want to focus on the 19%. it is a higher percentage for the president than he got the last go-around in 2016. in this polarized climate elections can turn on small changes. do you think this is a trend?

>> well, i think it's a thing to really look at but think about the progressive bloc of voters, the strongest bloc are african-american women and the second african-american men. i don't want to spend so much with the 19% and recognize the 80% because it's in the 08% and 92% that make up the black community that said we need to look forward to 2020 that's more inclusive for all americans and black americans and not allow to us go back to 1950s where we were excluded. this is a time for us to talk about policy looking forward. not analyzing fractions of a percentage, because if we do that we could distract what's ahead of us. an opportunity to do much better than what we've done. >> to which i'll respond on this church going sunday for many americans amen to that, derrick johnson, thank you so much. trading blame on capitol hill and how the defund police message may have backfired. michael moore's thoughts on the

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law and order issues around defund the police hit home. we've got to get away from -- as congressman clyburn says, the sloganeering that may sound well but doesn't work well when we hit the ground. >> it's not the real issue. i just think that, you know, there are a lot of things that people would like to point to in the wake of this, let's look at the numbers. let's figure out what conversations we have to have. >> nobody i know who is running for office talks about defunding the police. we talk about making police officers accountable. >> well, joe biden had won the presidency, the biggest prize but progressive and moderate democrats are trading blame over the party's stunning losses in the house. rather surprising they weren't actually stunning, that said democrats holding a smaller than expected majority now.

joining me now michael moore, oscar winning filmmaker and host of rumble with michael moore and good friend to us here. i want to -- >> thank you for having me. >> i want to get to the internals in a second. your thoughts on that big prize, a president-elect biden because i know you, michael, worked pretty hard to hear those words. how do you think it came together? >> well, i was thrilled to hear those words and i was encouraging everybody for months as i was very involved in trying to get the vote out because i took donald trump seriously. and i knew that he would do better than he did last time and he did so that meant we all had to do that much more better. so we had to get those right now i think the count is biden has gotten 11 million more votes than hillary did four years ago. we never would have beaten trump had we not gotten out the vote

and where did it come from, record number of black voters and young adult voters, coming out to vote. and it happened. this has been forgotten somehow. we've had the largest historic uprising of people, a move thament formed this year around trying to do a different way of policing and that brought so many people out into the streets, so many people got registered who hasn't been registered before and i think that this had so much to do with it. thank god for black and youth and progressive voters that put biden over the top and beat back an insurgent, donald trump, who almost pulled it off but didn't. and that's the key thing. how did he not pull it off? i think it's because -- you know, the ballot measures, again, we're not talking enough about this.

vast numbers of americans in many states went to the polls and voted for the progressive ballot initiatives and passed them whether it was legalized marijuana or double the minimum wage to $15 an hour in florida, how about arizona, that's not a very socialist state and yet they voted to raise the taxes of the rich in arizona and colorado, what did they do two weeks ago? they voted to give coloradans 12 weeks paid family leave. socialism. the people are ahead of the politicians. the politicians grumbling and whining about -- especially the wons who won. i don't understand -- i love tim there from youngstown and congresswoman spamburger because they won. they won. don't be a sore winner. be happy. yes, it's a struggle.

it's a fight. it will continue to be a fight. >> are you -- i know we talked before and want to get more in detail. i foe we talked about the poll numbers. are you surprised the polls were wrong, that the election was closer in terms of the popular vote than we had expected necessarily? >> no, that's why on your show and others leading up to the election i was trying to tell everybody, don't trust these polls. like last time, it could be much closer than what -- remember that abc/"the washington post" poll the weekend before the election, wisconsin biden was ahead by 12 points. >> yes. i do. >> whoa. i mean, there has to be a reckoning when all the dust settles here about polling in this country. because i was so worried that people were listening to that and not -- just going, maybe i don't need to vote. >> remember there was one about iowa that donald trump was ahead by bike seven points. there were a bunch of polls that

were head scratching but, look, actually you know what, though, iowa won, it was surprisingly right. there was one that was right, i think the des moines register was right and all the rest had it different. the polling definitely is having a reckoning and has to fix this up. let me ask you, though, about the differences with the moderates versus progressives in the democratic party. you have moderates saying the issues like socialism, like defund the police, that is what's to blame for the losses but then, of course, you have progressives, new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez defending support for those initiatives and points to as you're pointing out she won her race decisively, tim ryan did as well you were talking about. what are your thoughts on this, though, and how joe biden can get everyone on the same page in the party or at least to a functioning level? you're not going to crowd everyone into like-minded thinking but to get it working properly. >> i actually believe that, what you just said. i believe he has the ability to

do that and will do it. i think he's going to operate from his heart and i think that he -- as i wrote an open letter to him this week and posted on my facebook and read it on my podcast because i want him to hear it. i believe strongly in where his heart is at and what he believes in now. i think we have an excellent chance to make things work and i think that he will -- when he -- when he extends his hand to the other side, it's not going to be to compromise and give up things that we value. it's to say to them, look, you know, we're going to get everybody covered with health insurance and that means we'll cover you too, not just our people, not the trump way where we do what is for us, for me, me, me. what we believe is that you shouldn't work for $7.25.

we believe that women in your family should have the same rights as the men in your family this. is all going to benefit you when we pass these things. so come on board with us. we'll have our differences, you know, that's okay but we're -- we have to -- we've got to get rid of this virus. and, you know, i mean president biden, when he's president, officially, he is going to -- i hope -- lead us and speak to the other side because we will not get rid of this virus if those 72 million who voted for donald trump refuse to wear a mask, you know. and when he holds his hand out it's not going to be about reaching across the aisle but, here, here, put this on. i want to save your life. you know, i would love it if he would go on tv like a fireside chat one night and just speak to the red states. speak to the people who voted for trump and say to them, i want to you live. you're my fellow americans.

i don't want to you die. you need to live so we can have the great debate on these issues. you are not to die. you must wear this mask. you must socially distance. you must trust that i am going to fight and work for a vaccine, not for political reasons, but an actual thing based on science that's going to be safe for to you take. >> yeah, that's what he put together with his covid-19 task force, scientists, a diverse group. we know he's moving in that direction. you know, listen, i would love to see a fireside type chat like that i think the problem is the indoctrination that's already been allowed to foment and take hold among the 72 million. >> okay. >> potential trump supporters. how do you break into that? >> it'll be hard. but again i think when we don't send their sons and daughters off to war and have them come back as amputees, he'll see -- the other side will see that this is a president who is going

to want peace and not war, he's going to do things that will benefit them. it'll take a while, once they have their government backed health insurance, and not have to worry about going to the emergency room, they are going to feel better. you know who else will, the youth of the red states, because as long as we fund our schools, have great schools for all americans, have great libraries in every neighborhood open sketch days a week, if we have do that, the young who are growing up in these homes that are maybe more, you know, thinking this way who, homes that don't believe in science, teach the kids science when they grow up as they become adults enough of them will realize, oh, yeah, it's the same -- it's the same as -- it's always -- how did we get people to stop smoking? i mean, eventually people feel, you know, man, maybe it's not cool that i -- i'm smoking and i

think that enough people who voted for trump will be in to say it's really not cool issue i'm not a good neighbor, if it's all about me, me, me, if i'm not trusting science and if my kids aren't reading books, you know, this is -- we will collectively as a society reach out and try to create a situation where there will be these changes, things will get better because they do. i mean look at this -- that -- as alexandria said, cortez, that none of the people who were in favor of medicare for all, congress people who had the progressive position, none of them lost. the people who lost, the democrats who lost are the ones who were against medicare for all. they're behind where the people are at. the people want universal health

care. i don't care what you call it. if i had a chance to talk to biden, medicare for all, don't call it that. call it canadian care. call it biden care, call it whatever. make sure when people get sick, they don't have to worry about losing their home. >> yeah, yeah. >> they don't have to worry about any of that. you'll be helped because your fellow americans are paying for this so all of us can get help it we need it. that's the country i want to live in. >> it is a right every citizen should have. the million maga march out there, that big rally yesterday in d.c. in support of the president's election challenges. we're showing right there. i mean, it turned violent. how in the world do you bring those people around? i mean do you at all see their point of view when they say, hey, we like donald trump because he talks plainly. he doesn't talk above our heads. you know, he talks to us and we can relate to him and that's what they're going to miss?

>> yeah, they're going to miss it in the same way that on our side women are still missing being paid what men are paid doing the same job. we've been missing that for hundreds of years. african-americans have been missing the fact that they can vote without being -- their vote being suppressed or gerrymandered. a of stuff we've had to miss. we fought for and organized and for the eighth time in the last nine presidential election wills the majority of our fellow americans said they want a democrat in the white house, not a republican. the republicans have only won once since 1988 when h.w. won, since then, the american people only once have given the popular vote and that was to w. in '04 and only by one state, ohio, 100,000 votes. we live in a liberal country, a country where people don't call themselves liberals but they agree that we should have a

living wage, that women should have equal rights, that -- look at florida in 2018. passing a law giving felons the right to vote. every state in the last two or three elections that has had on the ballot let's expand medicaid for all, every time it's won. it wins. these liberal progressive things win with the people because the people are already there and the politicians including some democrats don't get that yet and they should stop complaining about this great victory we've had and the few that we lost were some democrats that just tried to win by being republican-lite. that doesn't work. we win when we lean to the left as democrats. we lose when we try to pretend to be republicans because why would people when they've got actual republicans on the ballot. >> yeah. >> why would they vote for -- people want leather not pleather. they want -- they want filet and

prime rib not hamburger. democrats, be proud of who you are, fight for the things we're fighting for and, remember, we're fighting so that every person in every red state has the same exact things. that's what we stand for and i think in the end we'll win enough of them over and, frankly, the million maga march, first of all -- >> real quick. it wasn't a million, you know. >> no, it wasn't a million. but i love that they use a louis farrakhan reference, the old million man march for themselves, i don't know how to quite deal with that but, you know, it's -- they're americans. they live in a democracy. they should be out on the streets and they should stand up and hold placards and vote for the people they want to vote for. that's the american way. >> well, listen -- >> you know, if democrats don't

get it together and fight and get those two senate seats in georgia, we will have a tough time in 2022 and 2024. >> something we will talk about and following closely until that election, the special election, the runoff on january 5th. michael, i really like our conversations. i can't wait to well macome y k back. >> i do too. you're so kind to have me on. i appreciate it. >> i think you augment the conversation so thank you. by the way that million man march i want to give the stats, it was estimated to be like 50,000 so that's -- there's the facts on that one. okay, michael, have a good one. see you. rudy giuliani says he has witnesses to prove election shenanigans in michigan. the state's attorney general responds to his latest allegations next. and most important is the ability to transform the smallest of businesses right in our neighborhoods. we created the 5g business impact challenge to give them the tools

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in michigan. >> in detroit. >> yep. >> we have evidence that 100,000 ballots were brought in at 4:30 in the morning and counted and to the extent our witnesses and there are four of them saw it and one of them is an ex-employee of giuliani. can you please clear this up? >> i would love to be able to clear it up. i have no idea what he is

talking about. i mean, all of these conspiracy theories put forth by the trump campaign have been debunked. we have had a number of cases dismissed and heard. they have been heard by judges that were appointed by democrats, and judges appointed by republicans. we have had liberal leaning judges, and conservative judges, both come to the exact same conclusion. this is merely fantasy on the part of the trump campaign. it is untrue. >> we have yet to see from a public standpoint, one sled of evidence. have you seen one shred of evidence. affidavits by people who clearly don't understand the process and took no time to go to trainings offered to better understand what was happening when they saw

something. they would see something, and attribute it to something underhanded or nefarious, when there was nothing wrong at all. then you had people out right lying about what they saw. in any event, nothing that has been claimed so far, was any way, shape or form would not change the fact that joe biden won by 150,000 votes. >> do you have a prediction, how long they can keep this up? i don't know. honestly, it doesn't matter. the certification process is going on. and already done. these certifications are moving forward, they will be done by

tuesday. then, after that they will move forward to the seat of canvassers and the electors will be elected to joe biden, because he won the most vote in our state. they can file as many lawsuits as they want. the truth s none have been effective so far. >> attorney general, i want to apologize, you made every word count. you can blame it on michael moore, he kept going on. he knows how to tell a story. >> he likes to talk. >> and as kamala harris gets ready to make history, someone who knew her when she was class president weighs in on her friend's success. id before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn?

>> what did you think when you heard your friend would be making history? >> i am so proud of kamala harris. and so proud of what she has accomplished thus far. and what she will do in the future. it is an amazing. it is not only amazing for this count ree, but personally, i am so very overwhelmed with emotion. for your time at howard

university. did you seeicismoms, or shades of the future? that you thought, okay, she may pull something off professionally here? >> she ran for class president. i did. when she told me, as a matter of fact of factually, i made a decision, i am running for freshman class president, i thought she was crazy. i said, well, kamala harris, you never ran for office before, not even in high school. they are all guys in the leading positions. you know. she said, that is not going to stop me. it didn't. she said, not only that you are running for president of your class, too. of the school of business. howard university gave her the confidence that she needed. filled that gap for her.

something that she didn't have, perhaps, when she first arrived. i definitely saw something then that we all see now. >> you were sorority sisters, i was a member of a sorority, it allows an intimacy, through thick and thin, if you live in a sorority house together. what was kamala harris like to hang out with? >> well,ie everyone her since she was 17. she pledged the sorority the senior year. what was it like to hang out with kamala harris? she is fun, funny, i will never forget, when we first met, got a kick out of her.

she has a great sense of humor, and crazy hair, curly hair back then. at the same time, you know, in four years, you go through a lot with someone. you become an adult with someone. that was what happened with us. you get to see and experience things that happen in life. the good things, thing that happen in your family, some of the bad things, as well. so, kamala harris, the thing i hope the world gets to see is not only is she smart and not only is she indus trious and fearless and calm during challenging times, i hope that the american people get to see her heart. they get to see and experience the kamala that the people close to her get to know. the loving, gentle, nur touring

side. she is a lot of fun. >> well, tharng you so much, melanie miles. we appreciate you. see you next saturday.

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