good morning. it is saturday, november 21st. i'm ali develvelshi. the american people registered their votes 18 days ago and spoke out in overwhelming numbers on election day selecting joe biden as the next president of the united states by a margin of what is closing in on 6 million individual votes and 74 electoral college votes yet the current sitting comma commander in chief refuses to accept that outcome. with 60 days left, president

donald trump is using the powers of his office to try to reverse the results of the election, orchestrating a far-reaching pressure campaign to persuade republican officials in michigan, georgia and elsewhere to overturn the will of the voters. to recap, the first trump tried telling people that he won on election night. when that didn't work because all the voltes hadn't been counted. now he's calling on republican state lawmakers in michigan to change the electoral college volts to subvert the will of the michigan voters, even though he lost the state by more than 150,000 votes. we won't know anything until the state board of canvassers meet on monday to certify the michigan vote. they said they've seen no evidence to warrant reversing the outcome of the vote in their state but whether or not trump

can successfully steal a presidential election and subvert democracy, the effort itself is dangerous. it threatens the basic premise of our democratic system for years to come. here's former president obama explaining why to my colleague jonathan capehart. >> i'm less surprised by donald trump doing this. up kno you know, he has shown only a flimsy relationship to the truth. i'm more troubled that you're seeing a lot of republican officials go along with it, not because they actually believe it but because they feel intimidated by it. >> this as president donald trump's top attack dog and personal attorney general rudy giuliani leads a circumstans-li effort. here's a snippet that showed

rudy giuliani. >> george thoros, affiliates of m m mediero. >> you can see we edited it but i assure you the long version doesn't make any more sense. but unfortunately some will believe the lies he's spouting. giuliani has not always been a sore loser. here's giuliani in november of 1989 graciously conceding defeat after losing the new york city mayoral race to mayor dinkins.

>> it's very important that we all come together and i want you to show that spirit! now do it! all right! >> where's that guy now? the country could use someone like that in the president's ear today. because what's happening right now while rudy giuliani is causing political chaos and clogging up courtrooms with frivolous throughs, nearly 2,000 souls are dying every day as the pandemic continues its march across the country. as of thong, tis morning, the n of people infected in the united states totals nearly 12 million. there are currently who are than 82,000 americans hospitalized

because of this virus. that is higher than at any point during the pandemic, including last spring. with thanksgiving quickly approaching on thursday, the centers for december control warning americans not to travel for the traditional holiday celebrati celebration, instead urging people to stay home with members from their immediate households only, indicating that even spending the holiday nearby like at a neighbor's house just down the street can be risky. >> i know the holidays are coming up and that's going to be tough for some people, but it really is a small sacrifice to make in order to prevent spread and this is who areanother inst where you're not assuming the risk for you necessarily and your family but the risk of everyone else who comes in contact with you over the five to ten days after you guys have a family gathering. >> remember that, five to ten days after you have a family gathering. meanwhile the pressure on gsa

head emily murphy is growing. this woman continues to refuse the biden/harris transition team with key funding resources they need to tackle immediate priorities once they assume office. chief among them is the covid crisis. she was given a monday deadline to brief the committee. 47 democrats have september a letter urging her to end her delay, also requesting a briefing by monday. here health insurance joe biden speaking about the stone walling he's getting from team trump and the damage it's doing from the country. >> i think we're witnessing incredible irresponsibility, incredibly damaging messages being sent to the rest of the world the way democracy functions. i don't know his motive but i think it's totally irresponsible. >> joining us this morning from near the biden headquarters in

wilmington, delaware is ali v. president-elect biden met with nancy pelosi yesterday. what's going on behind the scenes? >> >> reporter: two full weeks of this transition held in limbo and we're learning patience is waning. despite the fact that patience is waning, they're not quite ready to ratchet this up to a legal battle quite yet. instead they're looking at the pressure campaign that we're seeing on capitol hill that you just laid out there from the house and the senate, trying to pressure the gsa to send that letter of ascertainment and get this thing going. we heard this from biden himself, too, that he would rather build consensus around this issue rather than force the issues in courts. biden advisers were told share

that reticence about taking this the legal route because they fear there's a potential backlash if the court doesn't share the sentiment this transition should move forward right now. so while they're waiting on the official side, they are still able to push ahead on policy and personnel. we saw some more key white house staffing decisions come out this week. of course a lot of speculation happening about the cabinet. but the focus remains on coronavirus both in terms of getting relief to americans, that's what that meeting was in part yesterday with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi here in wilmington but putting out the guidance that there is someone standing at the helm who is prioritizing coronavirus. listen to joe biden talking to the league of cities telling them they're going to have a place at the table in this fight. >> covid has strained your health care system, burning out

your health care providers. essential workers are putting their lives and health at risk to keep your communities running, but you're not getting the support you need to be able to keep paying your teachers, your police officers, firefighters, your first responders, providing them ppe, keeping everyone safe. and the congress has passed the money. it's passed the money that was desuigned to do it's not coming. i know it must be frustrating. >> reporter: setting the tone from the top, moving forward about potential cabinet picks. we're told we could get those in the next few days, around thanksgiving. but we talk about the way private companies seem to be doing certain facets of democracy better. we talked about dom ino's able o

track a pizza. we're told by twitter just this morning that they're readying to turn over control of accounts to the biden transition team working with the national archives and others to make sure that transition is smooth. so it can be done, it's just happening a little slower on the official side. >> i do appreciate you dropping the domino's conversation here. i owe you an apology tore dragging you into a fight between katy tur and me about dominos. th >> they can track your peeizza from the moment you order it to the moment it gets to your door. i would just like votes to be tracked the same way. i want to welcome a member of biden/harris transition covid advisory board, a practicing disease specialist and epidemiologist in new york.

and joining us is an icu doctor and trauma surgeon. thank you for being here. dr. campbell, i want to start with you that we have hospitals more full than they were at what we thought was the peak of coronavirus in april and may and june across the country. one of the whole points about flattening the curve was that the same number of people can get the infection, but if they get it at different paces, we will have the equipment, we will have the beds, we will have the doctors and nurses. weep are now up against the capacity that we've got to provide people with health care. >> good morning, ali. thank you so much for having me this morning. you are absolutely right. we are at the brink in terms of the health care system with respect to dealing with these patients. when everything happened in the window of march or april, knew

what happened in new york, in the east and midwest. at that time we could have doctors and nurses moving around and providing help. but right now there is a countrywide problem with the way resources are being allocated and the health care system is getting overrun. the resources have been exhausted from the standpoint of. of ppe, but the doctors and nurses and staff, all the people that care for people is becoming exhausted and this is a major ka at that time if i for our health care system. right now it's 80,000 but what does it look luke when it's 150,000? at that point resources will be exhausted. >> and doctor, while we are very excited and rightfully excited

about the moderna and pfizer vaccines, once again it's going to come down to ppe, nurses, cold chain storage and distribution. it's going to come down to all those things that we actually need white house leadership for, maybe military intervention in, maybe defense production act impositions to produce the necessary things. that there is a virus doesn't mean everybody is going to be able to get the virus near them. i'm sorry, vaccine. >> and this is why the gsa really needs to move forward to ascertainment now. we really do need to get our hands on critical information to understand everything from what do we have in terms of personal protective equipment, what is the quality and number of ventilators that we still have available that could be moved around and dee dredeployed. many of the ventilators in the stockpile were dysfunctional,

did not work. other things like what are the current plans, what are the current negotiations with pharmaceutical companies, with distributors on where they're going to be targeting the vaccines, how that's going to be distributed. how are you going to hire all of the nurses who are going to be needed to administer that? and that's haul in the middle of a pandemic when the demand on health care providers just to cope with existing covid patients is at an all-time high. >> dr. campbell, we've been taking questions from people about how to handle travel this week and thns this week and all of my experts say the same thing, if you ever don't have to travel, don't travel. if you don't have to have members who are not of your family in your house, don't do it. but the bottom line is people are doing it, people are traveling and people and we will see probably an increase in infections in the next ten days and unfortunately after that our hospitals will get fuller.

we are not getting consistent guidance across the board. the cdc finally came out with delayed guidance. we're still getting mixed messages across this country. >> well, i think that's a good point, ali. i think the first thing is that if you don't have to travel, don't travel or the messaging should be stay at home, enjoy thanksgiving with your immediate family, don't go anywhere. that's number one. if you're going to travel, then it going to be a risk. what i am concerned about, all the health care providers are concerned about, is when we look at two weeks, as you said, from now instead of having 80,000, we'll have 100,000 people because there's a delay. my strong recommendation is for people to stay home because you would like to get through this period where we can get access to the vaccination that

dr. gounder is talking about. we're close but the problem is people want to see their families. if you see them from thanksgiving, they'll be in the icu for christmas. that's the thing you don't want to have. that's what i fear is going to happen because of all this traveling. if 2 million people travel like they normally do, we're going to have way more cases because of the dangers inside the airports and transportation facilities, hotels, the homes. it's getting away from your pod, the people you're with all the time. in california we have 13,000 case as day for the last three days. so we were going up where things were under control here, things are rapidly getting out of control and officials are beginning to issue shutdown order. and we don't want to go there. weep just want to make sure people are healthy and they get

through this. >> yesterday we had the first coronavirus task force meeting of the trump administration in a very long time. the president himself wasn't there. we don't seem to have new guidance. it kind of sad that the stuff i talk about on cable news they get to later. i mean, they just around get to the things that we're already telling people with maps that we use to tell people what's going on. what we are seeing is spread because we're not getting consistent messaging from the federal government still. >> yeah, that's right. and it's pretty clear that the consistent messaging need to be that we need to all wear a mask. of masks are highly effective in protecting the person wearing them, protecting others, that your cheap and they don't shut down the economy. if you want to keep the economy open, you should wear a mask. it like politicizing toilet paper. a mask is a becausic hygienic measure in is not a political statement. we need to be massively ramp up testing. you should be going out and

getting tested. before you spend time with tamly hyped the holidays, you should have quarantined for 14 days first, gotten a test right before seeing family and retest five to eight days later. these are the kinds of things we need to be hearing, not just on the news but from doctors and officia officials. >> as the country suffers, house lawmakers left washington for thanksgiving recess with no signs of progress oaf a desperately needed coronavirus relief bill. coronavirus relief bill. r what you need? really? i didn't-- aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah!

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there are reports that negotiations over a potential new covid economic relief bill have resumed as cases continue to surge around the country. with that in mind i want to show you two lines that will tell you the story of the economy right now. the first is the dow jones industrial average, an index that measures the stock prices of 30 of america's largest companies. the other loin isn'tine isn't a it's an image of 6,000 cards

lined up to get food for thanksgiving at the north texas food bank in dallas, they distributed 7,380 turkeys. that's just one food bank in one american city. those lines tell the story of what joe biden calls the k-shaped recovery in america. the poverty rate in america rose by nearly 2% over the summer. that's nearly 7 million more americans falling below the line. the expiration of government assistance programs like the weekly $600 federal pandemic stimulus payment likely contributed to that spike. in america the richest country in the world live millions of people had are referred to as food insecure, meaning they lack access to adequate food because they don't have enough money. in 2019 when the economy was much stronger than it is today,

10.5% of all u.s. household, about 35 million americans, were food insecure at some point. by the height of the covid should downs, the number of food i secure household skyrocketed, estimated to have doubled to 25.4%, a separate studiey esiei study estimates it at 29%. chose to one third of our people know or fear hunger. millions face homelessness. hundreds of thousands already live on the streets. why is the senate stalling on a $2.2 trillion relief bill passed on october 1st by the house? because mitch mcconnell says the heroes act is too large.

he's advocated for a bill that doesn't include aid for the american people. his skinny bill would indemnify people that wouldn people, a relief bill that would provide no relief. there are times to argue about the effectiveness of government aid. this is not that time. this is time for us to understand that our fellow citizens are literally going hungry. as i've pointed out many times during the pandemic, we've seen the best of america during these past days, rarely has it come from the nation's capital but the one thung ing we cannot do without washington or the republican-controlled senate. senators have gone home for thanksgiving. let hope they realize how many people will not be celebrating on thursday because of their inaction. on thursday because of their inaction to directly engage floors and dig deep into carpets.

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amid a pandemic that has taken thousands of lives, particularly those of the poorest americans and an recession that has left millions unemployed, the work of my next guest is more important than ever. i'm jiend by william ba-- joine referendum barber. i got an e-mail that said i walked by a church that had lines of cars, i assumed it was a a service. no, it was a food bank. >> we are holding caravans where we're saying we cannot walk past

all of the people that are dying and suffering and in 24 state capitals, we're having caravans to say it's time for a just stimulus, it ti's time for a smh transition and moral agenda. i believe and many believe we are seeing crimes against humanity. we've been talking about this. when we have one in four workers who are either unemployed or working for poverty level wages, there's a study that just came out from the ludwig institute who say we have adults learning under 20,000 a year or below the poverty line, 8 million more people in poverty and we did a study with epi and it says the shock is worse than the great recession and great depression. because what happened this time, normally a recession starts in the construction and manufacturing, but because of

covid, it's taken place among those who are face to face, wage workers, black and white, brown and white people. this is a crime against humanity what we're seeing in this country. >> reverend dr. william barber, what need to be done now? we have a federal administration that will take this illness, infection serious. we can't fix the economy until we get that out of crounder con. what happens to the people who are food lacking in this country. when we talk about a hundred million people possibly being food insecure, what does the government need to do so the richest country in the world does not confront this. >> let's say a hundred million on top of the poverty and stood

insecurity that existed prior to covid. that's one thing we have to keep in mind. this is on top of what was before covid. we have all of this food and stock piles around this country. there's no reason we should not be releasing it. we we should be making sure everybody has access to food stamps and snap. we should support the food banks. we should have passed another bill because one c.a.r.e.s. act, 80% that went to the banks and corporations is not going to fix it this problem. too many people didn't have savings, didn't have health insurance and now they can't eat. we need to deal with what's at the center of people's lives. weep need living wages, sick leave, we need unemployment, we need true moratoriums on

mortgages and people's utilities being cut off. we can do this. the money is there. it's not that we don't have the republic sources and we don't have the will. it is a terrible thing when the president and the senate are more interested in changing a vote count than protecting people from caskets and from craving. people are literally starving, ali, in this moment. and we're the richest nation in the world. none of this has to be. the deaths don't have to be, the food insecurity doesn't have to be. the government could have even done this, the last point i'll make, they could have struck a deal with corporations that governor pay part of the salary, corporations pay part of the salary, sent people home, protect people property and give society time to recover from this. this is nothing but pure greed and crimes against humanity and we have to protest it. if we can't get in the streets, we're going to get in our cars

and demand something different. >> reverend, you have not stopped professional testing this but it is an important matter, it's not a political matter, no the about moving to the left or center, as you say. this is just decency and good governan governance. thank you always, reverend, for the work you are doing. millions across america arehung holiday season. according to feed america, in ohio more than 1.6 million are struggling with hunger, over half a million are children. we go to cleveland at the trinity evangelical food bank. what have you been receiving while you're there? >> reporter: ali, there have been people stopping by all morning long to collect bags of food. it's just a few days before thanksgiving so they're expecting a lot of people. the church tells me they do this about twice a month and today

they're prepared to help as many as 300 people if necessary. s can p feed america has more than 50 million people may be facing food insecurity this year and here in ohio, the projected rate for 2020 is about 18%. in 2018 it was about 14%. a significant increase. the greater clove left-hand pood bank says they have been working around the:to get food to distribution sites like this one behind me. the director said without the help, they would certainly fall short. >> i've been doing this for a long time here at this church and we wouldn't be able to do it without the cleveland food bank. if i just had to rely on private donations, we'd be able to search maybe 10, 15 people. but with the food bank, we're able to do so much more. and i'm so happy for that.

>> reporter: with the help from the food bank, the church says they're able to help as many as 300 people today. two weeks ago they held out food to about 200 people. they distributed more than 400,000 pounds of food. >> thank you for your very, very important reporting from cleveland, ohio. we cannot in this week of thanksgiving forget those who do not have food to put on the table. we have breaking news for you right now. the united states infection count has hit 12 million cases. 12 million cases in the united states, 255,567 deaths. i should give you a sense of this. the united states is 4.25% of the world's population and we are number one in coronavirus,

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i myself have held the hand of dying patients who were crying out for their family that they can't see. i've taken care of co-workers as they fight for their lives on a ventilator and knowing that they got sick because of the hospital or their government hasn't protected them. do you know that i have not been tested yet and i have been on the front lines in the icu since february. >> you're kidding me? >> no. >> for months front line medical

workers like mary turner have been telling anyone who would listen about the realities they faced in hospitals during the eight months this pandemic, but those with the power to do something have not listened. doctors and nurses have prioritized our care through this crisis. it's time we prioritize there. joining me, mary, thank you for being with us. more importantly, thank up for wh -- you for what you have done for your patients. it's people like you who have kept us healthy and alive. you broke down while talking to joe biden. joe biden broke down listening to you. and we hear the story all the time, what the stress must be of front line workers and nurses who are facing treatment and coronavirus and death all the time. what does it feel like to be you right now? >> you know, when i'm on the job, as all nurses, we have to

be professional at all times. the work that we're doing to try to save as many lives as possible is what we're called to do. but it takes its toll in the sense that if we're holding the hand of a dying person, we don't have time to grieve. if we are frustrated and angry because we're running out of -- we don't have enough personal protective equipment and we were not feeling safe, if we're frustrating because we're short staffed and and now we're getting into a situation where we're going to have to do crisis staffing, which means taking more patients than is safe for us to take, all of these frustrations, anger, compassion for our patients, et cetera, all of this has to stay bottled up when we're at the workplace

because it is imperative that we stay professional at all times and we do. weep ne we need to stay strong and what happened to he that day is when you're away from the workpolila what happened to me is i finally felt like i had somebody that i could say all my concerns to and that i felt like president-elect biden was the person who could do something about it and that he was really listening and it caused an epiphany for me in the sense that i realized that all this emotion that i portray on the media because it's -- i kind of have -- it happens and what's happening is all of those emotions that i can't express at work come out when i am speaking to the immediamedia. and it was, like i said, an

epiphany for me to realize what was going on with myself. if through my emotion i can get across to people how desperately we need to take this pandemic serio seriously, then that's just a higher power's will. i don't know. that's just what's coming out of me is my desperation to get people to take this seriously. >> are you hopeful? >> i am now. i am now. do i think that we have waited far too long to, you know, our national nurses united has been advocating and i certainly have been trying to do my share about enacting the defense production act. there is no reason why we don't have enough ppe for everybody. i got an e-mail just recently from australia where they were kind of speaking in a condolence

kind of terms. they said we don't have a problem here because we have a new norm. everyone just wears a mask and we're able to go along as business as usual. now, wouldn't that just be wonderful. that would be wonderful if our country could be doing the same thing but we can't do it because we don't have enough of the ppe produced so that everyone can have some. certainly all hospitals should be wall to wall covering as far as everyone wearing personal protective equipment and. we should be able to use the optimal standards. my n-95 that i'm still wearing two shifts, that's nothing to some of the hospitals that i've heard where the nurses are still wearing that eight to ten shifts. that is not safe. that is not optimal protection. >>. >> it's the wrong reason to get sick. >> it's the wrong reason to get sick because we're not properly

appropriation tek protected. i need to talk about what our staffing situation is going to look like. just at my hospital alone, we have this past week like 60 ftes, full-time equivalent of nurses out for different covid related issues, whether they be quarantined because of children or they've had it themselves, but out. this is happening all over the nation, these kind of shortages where many, many health care workers are forced to stay at home. and we're doing this right as we're heading into a situation where we're having to go under the surge model. what that means for us in minnesota, they've always told us something this past spring something hospitals were supposed to do was to come up with emergency beds that could be opened up within 72 hours. and in this state that's about 400 beds.

well, they are now, at least at our hospital, proceeding to do that. the problem is, we might not have the staff to man those extra beds. but we're going to have to. >> that was the point of imaginiimagin managing this. >> i was going to point out this past spring when new york city was able to draw on news throughout the country, that was a wonderful thing. >> we won't have that now. >> no, we won't. they can say agency nurses are coming in all they want but they're not because they're all needed in whatever state they live in. >> theyou are the cavalry but there's only so much cavalry. mary turner, thank you for what you are doing and as a representative of all the nurses

who have kept our loved ones safe throughout these months. as joe biden has said, there is help coming. i think the things mary says today she says on behalf of all nurses. >> i do. >> we thank you for your services. >> after a quick break, we're going to look at joe biden's first 100 days in office. yesterday was a day to memorialize the trans and gender nonconforming people were killed in the united states, making this the worst year on record. 90% of those killed were trans women of color, a demographic that has a life expe expectancy of 30 years of age. the trump administration implemented military bans and

discriminatory health care executive orders but now there's a new sense of hope with the incoming biden administration. visibility matters. it maerkt that vice president-elect kamala harris added pronouns she and her to her statement. joe biden was the first president to mention transgenertransgender people in his victory peactory . may we remember those who will be remember for nothing other than being who they are. r for n than being who they are. water. so we fixed it. mio. so dad bought puffs plus lotion, blows. and rescued his nose. with up to 50% more lotion puffs bring soothing softness and relief.

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including the emergency banking act and the rollout of programs that would eventually become part of the new deal. the first 100 days came to be the benchmark for those who came thereafter. now we have president-elect joe biden who will take office in the mildst of a national catastrophe like fdr did. he is facing a deadly pandemic that has caused economic and social ruin and killing roughly 2,000 americans every day. his first hundred days could be the most dire, if not the most consequential, of his entire presidency.

vice president harris become the tiebreaker, essentially giving the democrats some ability to pass bills. but you're not going to see a first 100 days -- he has to

reapply, but they don't have to do anything in congress about that. he'll rejoin the world health organization, which is crucial right now because of the fight against the growing coronavirus threat. he will repeal the travel ban that includes many muslim countries, and he will reinstate the daca program, the program by which millions of people who came to america with their parents as young children were brought into the united states. i want to bring melody barnes into the conversation. she was the director of the white house domestic policy council under president obama. she's currently the codirect of the university of virginia democracy initiative. melody joins us by phone. you heard the comparison to the 100 days of franklin delano roosevelt with this one. both faced urgency, a country in a dire situation that needs to be fixed. how much can joe biden do without a cooperative senate if

he can't get wul. >> ali, it's great to be with you. the seas will definitely be choppy, but at the same time i think the people have spoke within the election of joe biden, and just listening to your past guest, mary turner, the urgency of the situation points to the fact a lot mass to be done. we heard just yesterday that secretary mnuchin said, well, we'll come back to the table to see if we can negotiate a deal. they want to do something more narrow than president-elect biden wants to do, but i think there will be growing pressure as we see the coronavirus spread across the united states and intensify to put in place the kind of package that president-elect biden has been focused on, relief plans that include states and locals and also addresses the issues affecting the economy. so while i think it will be difficult, i think this that is a moment that will call for

necessary action. >> is it going to be unlike the administration you joined where regardless of whether democrats were in control of both houses. there was a sense that there was still a productive nature to it. we don't have that now. so is there going to be a sense that this administration is going to run more by executive order than by legislation at least in the early days? >> well, i believe that the president-elect wants to go in the door and begin to work with both democrats and republicans. we see that by the meetings that he's having already. he recently met with republican and democratic governors who seemed eager to work with him, given the nature of the crisis we're facing. we also know as you mentioned in '08 and '09 when we walked into the white house there was a sense because of the economic crisis that we had to work together. it's not only the first 100 days, but the first year of a

new administration brings all kinds of crises, not only financial crises. we saw the waco standoff, action that was takeen in somalia, a tax by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. all of those things happened in the first year of the new administration and required a white house and a congress to work together. i also think that what we're getting from the american people is a strong sense that they're tired of a culture where they don't believe that democracy is working for them, that government doesn't matter. >> yeah. >> we've been fed a diet of government as reality tv for too long and the government is setting the institutions and those with the likes of senator mcconnell. >> we hope that is true from your mouth to the government's ears. thanks for being with us. that does it for me.

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