good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, war games. on any other post-election show in late november, i would at least be able to give thanks for

the seamless transition of power that has been a constant here in america since its founding. but this holiday week we find ourselves in unfamiliar and uneasy territory because right now the nation reels from a raging pandemic that has infected more than 12 million americans and claimed more than a quarter million american lives. and our current president, donald trump, has no intention of take advantage it. and that's because this american carnage has taken a backseat in his mind to an obsession with a multi-pronged strategy, in part, to undermine president-elect joe biden and cast doubt on our democracy and institutions. that is the war of it. and also, a last, desperate ploy in a long con to keep himself

and his family out of prison when he's a civilian again. that's the game. the legal fights this week personified by the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, trying to make some kind of conspiracy theory stick and literally melting under the scrutiny of even conservatives who chose to do their jobs and not undo the will of nearly 80 million americans. it's comforting to think that reality and rule of law will prevail in these times, and yes, the steps remain in place for trump to be removed. but we should not just speculate about the potential consequences of trump's cynical wall against a free and fair election he lost and face the fact that some of the damage has already been done because this week michigan

republicans willingly traveled to washington at the president's request knowing they would be asked to go against the will of the people and flip the state at the president's midwest. they ultimately ended up blowing his mind with five words he's not used to hearing from republicans. quote, we will follow the law. and yet, the very fact those lawmakers took the time to humor the president and so many other elected republicans remained silent in the face of his baseless claims means millions of trump supporters will continue to treat his conflict as a real thing when trump himself knows it's a ruse. so we start in michigan. joining me now is senator debbie

stabenow. thanks for being with us, senator. >> absolutely, reverend. always wonderful to be with you. >> senator, the president and the gop has continued to build their voter fraud claims, largely around the idea that the vote in democratic, heavily black cities cannot be trusted with michigan this week and throughout the election, it has been detroit. now, black voters nationwide are offended as we've been for four years. but in michigan where racial tensions have been uniquely high this year and played on by the president again and again, explain the damage done to your state, madam senator. >> reverend al, there's a lot of damage being done. first, let me start by saying joe biden and kamala harris won michigan by over 150,000 votes, which is 14 times more than donald trump won michigan four

years ago. it was accurate, transparent, every single county, 83 counties have all certified the vote. and so we know what they're doing. you know what they're doing. everyone knows that this is about undermining confidence, undermining our democracy, and, frankly, it's dangerous, it's pathetic and it's racist because we all know when you are focusing on detroit, 80% of our citizens are african-americans. everybody knows what they are doing. so monday the state board of canvassers, you have to just certify what has been done in michigan. and we expect that they will, and if not, we know that we're going to make sure that this vote gets certified in michigan. >> now, the frustration that i

have is so many of us in the civil rights community from all kinds of organizations, including our national action network, reverend charles williams right there in michigan, went out and did hard work to get people to come out to vote in a nonpartisan way, telling people even if you're not voting for people we may like, please vote. we must use our vote and record numbers came out. now to have those votes discredited tossing to give people that cynical saying my vote doesn't count to even give them the suggestion that that could have happened by some of these michigan state officials even going to humor the president is running counter to what so many people worked so hard to tell people to go out and vote and create our own reality for standing up for what you believe. it is just counterproductive and really undermines the democratic principles of the country. >> reverend al, it really does,

particularly in a year when we worked so hard. by the way, reverend williams used to work for me as part of my political team. and so he and so many people have worked so hard. we had the highest voter turnout ever, higher than 2008 with president obama, 5.5 million people showed up and showed up on both sides, by the way. although our side just showed up much more and it was a lot of people who believed it that their vote was important, that it mattered, and that it would be counted. and i think one of the things that is important to look at right now happening in michigan is that last week when wayne county board of electors had originally said they weren't going to certify the results, there was such an outcry, such a huge outcry. i think they really didn't understand. they were very naive about what

they thought they could do to undermine democracy. but ultimately they certified because people engaged. and so what we're seeing now is that we're saying to people we're working all this weekend. you know, we can't stop now. we have to remain engaged until the vote's certified and it's recognized who voters voted for, and that was joe biden and kamala harris. >> now, in addition, i must raise this. in addition to this, we saw the plot that we all knew about that a group of white supremacists planned to kidnap your governor, and there were at least two backup plans, one to storm the state capitol with 200 armed combatants who would then execute officials on camera, the other plan c would have been to just burn the building down with

lawmakers inside, no survivors. i've asked this before. what does michigan need from president-elect biden on his watch to combat the rise of this kind of terror which your state has been dealing with uniquely for decades now? >> yes. this has been just horrible what has happened, and i think we will see. i have great confidence in president-elect biden, and i think we need multiple things. first, we need what he's already doing, which is trying to calm down and focus people on the threat right in front of us, which is covid-19, which we all know the cases are going through roof, the deaths going through the roof, and we need to help people right now. what we ought to be doing is a survival package that's going to help people get through this. the vaccines are positive news, but we're a long way from being in a spot where everyone is going to be able to get access

to the vaccines, which is, by the way, i would say as an aside, reverend al, which is why these two senate races in georgia are important. i believe we're going to win there. i believe people are going to turn out and win. why is that important? because we have to hit the ground running with the new president and vice president to actually help people with health care and covid-19. so that has to happen, and then i think we have to have a president who is focused on the rule of law, basics about holding people accountable when they do the kinds of things that have -- we have uncovered in michigan, bringing people together. there's a lot of work, a lot of work that has to go on. i'm very, very concerned when we see the divided country, the number of people who voted for donald trump, even in spite of the everything or because of everything he's done, whatever. the reality is we have so much work to do to try to bring

people together having been so divided. but i believe joe biden and kamala harris are the right people for this moment, i really do. we just got to get through to january, add two new democratic senators from georgia, and then we move forward. >> all right. well, as always, it's a pleasure to have had you with us this evening. thank you, senator stabenow. joining me now is congresswoman val demings, democrat of florida. good to see you, congresswoman, and have you with us again this evening. >> great to see you, reverend sharpton. good to be back with you. >> now, earlier this week the congressional black caucus led by the incoming biden white house adviser cedric richmond criticized gop senators, mcconnell in particular, for holding up covid-19 relief under the h.e.r.o.e.s. act which passed in the house nearly five

months ago. the cbc says it needs to have it by christmas. what kind of pain are you anticipating in your orlando district and what can the cbc do to counter the gop? >> well, you know, look, representative richmond was spot on in his assessment there. you're right. it has been five months. we have a bill that would bring much-needed relief and what it will do is in its name, that's why it's called the h.e.r.o.e.s. act. it has been sitting on mitch mcconnell's desk waiting for a vote. just bring it to the floor for a vote. vote it up or down. what people are hurting -- you know here in orlando, tourism is really the force that drives our economy. our theme parks are operating at very low capacity. they've laid off thousands of individuals. our convention centers closed down. we have people -- some who have

to go to work because they work in the health care field or other places where they can't stay home and shelter in place and still get paid. >> right. >> so people are hurting. we have small businesses that are closing down, minority businesses, as you can imagine, are most impacted. we need to get them some relief. and we can do this, reverend sharpton, before christmas, if mitch mcconnell has the political will and remembers why he's there in the first place. and that's to help the american people. >> and i do know the people in orlando know you fight for them. my father visited that district. i'm a jesse jackson democrat. he's a val demings democrat. what's ironic is we look at the fact that we hear the right wing talk about, oh, put christmas back, don't call it happy holidays, call it christmas. but what kind of christ do they believe in that won't even give relief to people who don't know how they will make it because

they've been suffering? and the h.e.r.o.e.s. act has been passed, they just won't bring it through the senate with their conservative man, mitch mcconnell is the one that is in charge and can put that bill out there and get it passed? >> reverend sharpton, the bottom line is we know them by the fruit that they bear. if they can sleep at night knowing that 250,000 families as we approach thanksgiving and the christmas season will have an empty chair at the dinner table, they can sleep with themselves knowing that over 11 million people in this country have been directly impacted by the virus, if they can sleep with themselves knowing that businesses are shutting their doors for good, then, you know, i believe that -- i heard the senator before me talk about georgia, the optimism about

georgia. well, i do believe we need to do everything we can to get those two senatorial candidates elected so we can get people in the senate who really remember why they are there and vote those who do not out. >> let me ask you this. as the biden transition team takes shape, it is already on track to become the most diverse ever assembled. according to vox this weekend, 46% of biden's transition staffers are of color. that includes 41% of the senior staff, 52% are women. that includes 53% of the senior staff. as the president-elect plots his course economically through the pandemic, he's appointed several key advisers on rooting out systemic racism in our economy. what does this signal to you about the grasp of this particular moment and have you been asked to come join his

team, madam congresswoman? >> well, reverend sharpton, let me say this. i am so excited about the possibilities under a biden/harris administration. and what i so appreciate, you know, president-elect biden said several things along the campaign trail and how familiar are we with people who say one thing and do another? from the time he said i will appoint a woman to stand besides me, to the agenda he's put together and the people that he selected in his cabinet, he made a statement that americans have a duty to act to address systemic racism and he's putting people in place that will help him do just that, who will really start at the beginning looking at racism in this country and how we got to the place where we are and then implement programs to not only address systemic racism in one system, but in all systems.

i'm truly excited about that. the second part of your question, look, i want to -- you know, i love serving people. your dad is a very smart man, very wise man. i love serving people. i want to be in the place where i can best serve the biden/harris agenda. if that's staying in the house, i'm going to stay in the house. if that's going in another direction, then i'm going to do that. what inches know is i'm going to do everything in my power to push this agenda that directly impacts people who look like me forward. >> all right. we're going to be there pushing with everyone else to make sure that promises made are promises kept. i'm sure that the president-elect and vice-president-elect will be meeting with groups because they're hearing everybody and we intend to be heard. and you always made yourself heard. thank you, congresswoman val

demings. >> thank you so much, take care, stay safe. >> you as well. with cases of coronavirus spiking all over the united states, new york governor andrew cuomo is raising the alarm at the trump administration's vaccine rollout plan could leave communities hit hardest by the virus. on this show last week, governor cuomo threatened legal action if the plan isn't overalled to better include brown and black folks living in urban america. joining me is randall woodfin, the mayor of thank you for being with us. >> thank you, rev, for having me on. >> now, cases in alabama are spiking along with the rest of the country. how concerned are you about the most marginalized folks in alabama, as we are told it could

be possible. >> reverend, i'm as certain now as i was in march of 2020. i often have to remind people that the city of birmingham is the fourth blackest city in america. in addition to that, unfortunately, we have a concentration of poverty that is higher than it should be, not to mention too many people have pre-existing conditions. when you add the rapid pace and speed of how the coronavirus is traveling in this second wave, i'm extremely concerned. you know, i'm appreciative of the governor now having statewide face cover ordinance, but that's not good enough. we need to make sure at all levels, municipal, state level, and 1600 pennsylvania avenue are doing everything we can to protect people, especially the vulnerable. >> now, you have -- and many in

elected office and many of us that are not that have public platforms have the dual problem of, one, making sure that if a vaccine does come about, that it is distributed in areas that have -- desert areas when it comes to health services, and convincing a lot of people in the community once we're convinced ourselves that the vaccine is fine to take or that it is not something that we've experienced in our own history in the black community like the tuskegee experiment. so on one hand, we got to know that this is real, and that it is something that is something we could endorse for people to take, and then we have to make sure it's available, which gives you a double problem that many mayors will not have to face in this country. >> this is a problem i'm ready to take on because it's going to require leadership. you're right, reverend. the city of birmingham is not too far from tuskegee.

2020 is not too far from the history of the tuskegee experiment where we know when you speed up, there's no trust. that being the case as the mayor of birmingham, i'm happy to have partnered with university of alabama at birmingham hospital as well as their dean of school of medicine, dr. vicars as well as their ceo of health jointly with the uab as well as the health department have had unified front. this vaccine becomes available, i'll have to put myself out in front of my residents to show that this vaccine will not be harmful to you, that you can trust it, and that we need to make sure it's administered to those who need it the most and who are vulnerable. it's going to require an

overwhelming amount of communication to build trust in the community. >> now, the trump administration is refusing to allow joe biden and his transition team access to critical information, including vaccination plans and data. as a practical matter, how is this kind of delay going to impact your constituents in birmingham? >> this delay is up there with stupid. it's up there with dumb and malpractice as it relates to conduct becoming of a sitting president. it doesn't matter if you won or did not win. in the case we are right now, all of us as elected officials on every level, we have one job and one priority, and that is to save lives. and democracy works this way. if you lose, you're still in a position to not only continue to lead until the last day of office, but you're supposed to asset brid

set a bridge to transfer power to the next administration. what i'm seeing, it saddens me, disappoints me, but it also makes me mad because this virus is not about democrat or republican. it's not about black or white. it's not about rich or poor. it is really about are we as leaders in this country doing everything we can to protect lives. i'm going to do my part as mayor to protect the lives of people who are from and live in birmingham, but i have a higher expectation of an outgoing president to do more, period. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you, mayor woodfin, for being with us. >> thank you, rev. coming up, while america was focused on the election and trump's attempts to undermine it, you may have missed updates on some of the biggest racial justice cases under way across the country. we'll fill you in next. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? >> thanks, rev.

good day to you. stories we're watching this hour, coronavirus hits yet another milestone. the total number of cases across the u.s. now topping 12 million. the death toll is over 256,000. the cdc warns americans to stay home for thanksgiving, meanwhile, to not host gatherings this year. south dakota has the second highest rate of infection in the country. hospital capacity there remains strained. total confirmed cases surpasses 66,000. today secretary of state mike pompeo is in qatar. he met this morning with taliban and afghan teams to discuss regional peace as part of a push to achieve foreign policy objectives before january's change of power. more "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. k.... buttercup! ♪

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but he lost. and even if he's perpetu-- we'r already transitioning away from him. today we start that with a segment called while you were voting. it's been a wild couple of months, many of you waited hours in line to have your votes counted or navigated or confusing a mail-in ballot process, only to be glued to the news for days until a winner was announced. so it makes sense that some racial justice news slipped below the radar. don't worry. i'm here for you with some updates. we'll start with the case of 25-year-old ahmaud arbery, the unarmed black man chased down and shot by two white men in georgia. the bond revealed the older

suspect had a previous relationship with the deputy chief assistant district attorney who had original jurisdiction in the case. and he called her in an apparent attempt to intervene in the case. the judge denied bond for both suspects and no trial date has yet been set. meanwhile, another grand juror from the breonna taylor case has come forward to condemn the grand jury process. the juror repeated allegations that the kentucky attorney general did not allow them to consider charges against some of the officers involved in executing the no-new york warrant and firing shots that killed breonna taylor in her own apartment. and in the case of george floyd, the minneapolis man suffocated by a police officer who held his knee on his neck for nearly nine minutes, well, according to prosecutors, that officer had a

pattern of such behavior. video footage from 2017 shows the same officer kneeling on the back of a 14-year-old boy and ignoring the child as he begged for breath. that case is set to go to trial in march. these three cases are just a small fraction of the news that happened while we were trying desperately to save our democracy. but this snapshot is a telling summary of the state of racial justice in this country, or perhaps more accurately, racial injustice. the fbi just released its annual hate crimes report which found bias-motivated killing were up a record high last year, the third consecutive year in more than 7,000 hate crime incidents. many of these vile acts were no doubt fueled by the climb of

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according to a new fbi report, 2019 had the highest number of hate crimes in over a decade. and well over half of those incidents victims were targeted for their race or ethnicity.

20% were targeted for their religious beliefs and nearly 17% for their sexual orientation. the report also found that the offenses were more violent than in previous years and marked a third straight year with more than 7,000 hate-driven incidents. joining me now is brian listeve from california state university in san bernardino. let me ask you, brian, according to the fbi report, only about 2,000 law enforcement agencies even reported their hate crime data in 2019 out of more than 15,000 such agencies nationwide. how much does something like that skew this data, meaning it could be a lot -- even higher than the number of incidents? >> oh, absolutely, reverend. and i think it's important to

recognize while we're looking at mystery fraudulent votes that don't exist, the real fraud that's going on -- look at alabama. reported zero hate crimes last year, zero. i'll fly to alabama on my own dime to train the major police departments, many of which reported zero. so when we look at the states, mississippi, alabama, and other states that have high percentages of african-americans who remain the most targeted at double their representation in the population, that's one area where we know we're getting undercounts. even out here in california, anaheim reported zero? that's not true. what else do we see? other cities, philadelphia only reported 12, for instance. >> wow. >> the earlier data showed 35. one other quick thing, rev. new jersey in october -- we had a state report that said there were about 1,000 hate crimes.

the fbi said there were 42. chicago gave us 100 hate crime incidents, yet only about 39, 40 showed up in the fbi reports. so what i'm saying to you is, if these disparities were cleared up, we could have perhaps double or triple the percentage increase that we saw. >> and the ones that we saw are the highest that we've seen. let me bring this to you. the united nations released a report detailing the rise of hate crimes in the united states, specifically pointing to the president's, quote, legitimateizing of anti-asian rhetoric and racist actions. do you expect the 2020 fbi report to be even worse? and where do we go from here, brian? >> great question, reverend. actually, interestingly enough, for anti-asian for 2020, we're seeing a big spike in many of

the major cities. in new york we saw a slight increase in the hate crimes against african-americans in 2020. but we have a really interesting split. some cities are showing increases, for instance, l.a., phoenix, houston, san antonio. but a lot of places are reporting much lower and here's why. while residents are the number one target, if you combine all the public gathering spaces which have been restricted, that's going to have us in the eye of the storm for 2020. but 2019 was the worst year since 2008 and listener to this. the worst months over the last decade all revolved around politics. those were the worst months for hate crime this past decade. and we saw an increase if you look over five years when hate

crimes bottomed in the obama administration in a 30-year run, we're seeing double-digital percentage increases in aggravated assault. look at this. homicide, look at that, straight line. >> so the end line going all the way up shows how we've seen this increase. let me push you on the way -- you talked about the -- >> that's homicides. that's how many homicides -- look at that. they almost have a monopoly on them. so we have to change some stuff. we need legislation, the george floyd act, the john lewis voting act, although i'd love it to be called the john lewis reverend vivian act. also here in california, assembly member bloom is looking to make a permanent state commission so that we don't have this subject. this is across many things. look at covid. we have over twice as many

deaths -- >> one of the places we need to go, as you said, we've been dealing with it on this show, we had a couple hundred thousand marching. we need legislation. let me raise this to you. when you mention it spiked political years, president trump supporters have taken to the streets since the election. we've seen protests like this one today in atlanta where mostly white demonstrators echo trump's claim the results are somehow fraudulent because of nefarious activities in democratic cities with large minority populations. are you worried the anger we are seeing right now could eventually spur new waves of hate crime? >> yes. and what we're seeing is massacres taking place affecting the overall numbers. mark my words, we're going to see an insurgencesy.

the progressives were voted out of the presidency and we saw a shift over to violence and we're seeing that now with the hard right. and the other thing, what a disgrace. what a disgrace where we are having black people who are not being allowed to vote because of various restrictions. that's why we need to have these voting rights acts passed, we need the civil rights division of the justice department to be reinvigorated. val demings, i got questioned by her before congress, she would be a wonderful choice for so many slots in this current administration. >> thank you for being with us. let me say during the time of social justice reckoning for our country, americans nationwide have called for the removal of confederate statues in washington as a response. lawmakers included a bipartisan provision in the annual defense bill to rename several military bases that are named after

confederate leaders. but as the decline looms to finalize the bill, president trump has made it clear that he will veto it if the bases are to be renamed. now some republicans are following suit and want to remove the provision, creating the dangerous possibility of a delayed defense bill. the first time in over 60 years. joining me now is democratic congressman of maryland, anthony brown. thank you for being with us again, congressman brown. >> reverend sharpton, great to be on with you to talk about this important issue. >> now, you're leading the effort on the hill to keep the provision in. why are some of your republican colleagues changing their minds now about keeping the base names for confederates the same, the name on the base? >> like so many things we've seen time and time again in washington, it comes down to the

opposition of one person and that's president trump. republicans overwhelmingly in the united states senate along with democrats as well as republicans and democrats in the house of representatives voted to mandate the removal of the confederate names from our military installations within a time certain. donald trump threatened to veto the defense authorization act if that provision remains. so a number of republicans have back pedalled. we cannot pass a defense authorization act without the mandatory removal. this is more than symbolic. this is about whether we perpetuate the historic wrongs of celebrating and honoring confederate traitors who represented hatred and division and who stood for the institution they fought and were willing to die for slavery. in fact, had they been successful, whether it was general benning or bragg or rutger, not only would i have not been able to serve in the

military, i certainly wouldn't be a member of congress today. we cannot walk away from this. the defense authorization act should pass, but it must pass with the provision that mandates the removal of these names. >> let me make this clear for our viewers. they are expecting blacks and others to go and serve on bases that's named in honor of people that fought to have them enslaved, have no rights that anyone was bound to respect, and ignore that. this is not symbolic. this is as offense as you can get, and you would think in this summer of reckoning that we've had since george floyd that this would be the time that everyone would stand up across both ailes and say, yes, we cannot honor people that stood for racism and treason. these are people that led an insurrection against the united states government, that they are elected to the body and this president said he would veto it and some of your colleagues are

saying let's take that provision out? >> absolutely. look, 43% of the men and women who serve in uniform are black and brown. they're african-american, latino, asian brothers and sisters. and to have this perpetuated division and hatred and racism symbolized by these confederate names -- and it's not just the bases. there are buildings and barracks and roads and streets on military property. here's the thing, reverend sharpton. military leadership, they ha have -- they have supported the removal of these names because they know that it has a negative impact on the morale of today's soldiers. the leadership at the pentagon supports this. 49% of the men and women in uniform support this while only 37% oppose this. this is bigger than the military. this is about american values. there's absolutely no way that we can pass the defense authorization act without removing this because, as you

mentioned, reverend sharpton, one of the defining moments of this year in this country culminating and defining attention and conflict for decades in this nation has been a reckoning with race. if we can't do this this year, then when are we going to do it? >> in july nbc news polled that 5 51% americans said that confederate statues should be removed, but 47% said they should stay there. what do you make of that? >> look, what i make of that is that there are some who believe that having confederate names or any names on a military installation should remain the same. perhaps it recognizes our history, it's tradition. and the response is that we can remember our history. who is going to forget the 6 million africans and their families who were enslaved in this country? who is going to forget the

1.5 million americans who died in the civil war on both sides, military and civilian? who is going to forget that our union almost crumbled because there were men and people who were willing to fight and die for slavery. remembering our history is one thing. we should not be honoring and celebrating particularly those who in a very treacherous and traitorous way led the confederacy. >> do you believe that you can win this fight to keep that provision in? and if this president vetoes it, that it would have a devastating impact on defense and hold this country vulnerable because of the bigotry of this sitting president? >> absolutely. there are plenty of important provisions that are in the defense authorization act in addition to needing to remove confederate names from our bases. i mean, this is how we take care of soldiers and airmen, marines with their pay raise and supporting family housing.

this is how we ensure readiness and modernizing our military. so the president needs to be sent the bill with the removal. if he chooses to veto it, then congress has the ability to override it need to send the defense authorization act. it needs to include the provision to remove the names of confederate traitors, military installations. if the president vetoes it, congress needs to override that veto. >> congressman anthony brown, thank you for being with us tonight, and by the way, happy birthday. you didn't know i knew. happy birthday to you. >> thanks a lot, reverend sharpton. thank you. >> all right. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. l thoughts stay with us

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