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inchs tied up and tortured. >> my mother just fighting for her child. that's universal. >> she survived a harrowing ordeal in one of the most dangerous places on earth. >> they have brought me out to kill me. >> then from across the world, her kidnapper found her again. >> he reached out to me on
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facebook. >> did your heart stop? >> it was so scary that he could find me. >> for the first time, she shared her dramatic story. how she helped secret agents hunt down her captor. >> this all plays like a tom clancy thriller. >> absolutely. >> the setting, a perfect island paradise. the plot, a daring undercover sting. >> you were supposed to get some money. >> yes. >> we didn't think it would work. >> face-to-face with her kidnapper at last. >> i just broke down. >> it's still hard for you. >> this is real like pain. >> would she get justice? >> i got the courage in that moment and i said i'm ready. >> amanda, i love you. >> imagine being the mother on
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the other end of this call. >> if you guys don't pay $1 million by me for one week, they will kill me. okay. >> your daughter a world away in the hands of kidnappers. >> mommy, mommy, mommy. >> both mother and daughter trauma size titized in their owy a callous captor. they're stories are intertwined. amanda. my head pulled back and there was a serrated knife. >> and her mother, lorinda stewart. >> did you keep it together? >> i did. i had to be strong for her. >> driven by strength, courage and endurance. these women would not only survive this ordeal but their determination in a completely new chapter of their story would ultimately lead them to triumph
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over one of the men who terrorized them -- brutally and it would take an elaborate sting. >> it sounds like something out of a movie? >> it does. >> before all that, this storm begins in western canada where a young woman named amanda yearned for a world beyond her hometown. >> one constant was that i wanted to be a world traveler. i wanted to go to every one tri in the world. >> amanda begin realizing her dream in the '90s. she was off to venezuela. >> we are driving in the pickup truck. >> the whole world was iwide opn to me at that time. >> she kept moving, kept pushing
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forward. >> going from india to pakistan is something i wanted to do. afghanistan was right next door. >> mom, grew concerned especially as her daughter trekked into active war zones. she tried to talk amanda out of those trips but she says her daughter was headstrong and the more amanda traveled, the more she began to see a path to something else. >> she thought, wow, i would love to write about the people that i'm meeting. >> she resolved to turn her wanderlust into a journalism career. >> she wanted to get more experience but cover stories she cared about. >> you need goat out there and go you can get break. >> i'm also starting to look further out onto the horizon. >> how far? one of the most dangerous places in the world. >> what other stories are out there that i feel passionate about. at the top of my list was somalia. >> amanda knew she has to tell
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her mother about her plans. s >> you're thinking what? >> i would rather she didn't go. >> do you think you were a little headstrong? sglifs headstrong. i don't think i had spent enough time thinking about what would happen if something did go wrong. >> soon enough, she would find out just how wrong things could go. on the plane, she remembers a fellow passenger turning to her and her colleague with a stern warning. >> he said to me, your head, your head alone, is worth half a million dollars. be careful. >> as amanda left the airport, the capital city was chaotic. back at home, her mother worried about her daughter. >> i just made sure every time i talked to her that i told her i loved her. >> amanda managed to tamp down her nervousness and got to work on her third day in somolia, she
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in a car chasing a story. >> the vehicle started to slow down and i looked up. about a dozen armed men were emerging from where they had been hidden. all of them with ak-47s. my door was pulled open and i found myself lying face down in the dirt spread eagle with a gun leld to t held to the back of my head. >> terrifying. >> that was a line many the sand of my life before that moment and there is my life after that moment. >> in that moment, she feared her life might end. instead, she was picked up and shovd ba shoved back in a car. three gunmen crowded into the front seat. several more in back. she didn't know who they were or why they were being taken. >> we went on this wild desert drive off road and one of the
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leaders of this whole kidnapp pg operation was in front seat. i asked is this about money. and he said to me, it might be something like that. >> all the way back in canada, her mother stopped hearing from her daughter. she began to fear the worse. she didn't want to be right but she knew kidnappings were common. sf you must have felt so helpless. >> i felt like we were so far apart and we didn't know where our daughter was. >> i think i would have been a collapsed puddle on the floor. >> i knew i couldn't. i couldn't. >> lorinda reached tout canadian officials who told her this was a kidnapping by islamic rebels and they scrambled to set up a recording system in case the kidnappers called. >> the next morning my cell phone rang and it was adam who was negotiator for the kidnappers. >> canadian investigators had
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lorinda lead the negotiations but what she couldn't know then was just how much terror the man who called himself adam would bring into her life. >> two options. i don't want to pay any money. otherwise, to pay one million for your daughter. >> when this adam called on lorinda on day four, he had a surprise. >> okay, lorinda. talk to your daughter. >> amanda. >> mom. >> amanda. i love you sweetheart. >> proof that amanda was alive. >> after the first couple of weeks we realized this might go on for a longer than we hoped. >> on the other siefds the globe, amanda couldn't know how long she would be held but feared the worst. >> i was the only female in a group of about 16 men. there was a lot of scary thoughts. coming up, the danger and terror escalate.
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>> tonight they have brought me out to kill me. >> amanda, amanda, stay strong. stay strong. a twist straight out of the a hollywood thiler. >> you're an undercover agent. >> can amanda help turn the tables on her captor. >> my heart started pounding and i fell to my knees and i started crying. >> when the capture continues. td crying >> when the capture continues. how's that? get...get mom. power e*trade gives you an award-winning app with 24/7 support when you need it the most. don't get mad. get e*trade and start trading today. (burk(customer)support deep-something like that...t. (burke) well, here's something else: with your farmer's policy perk, new car replacement, you can get a new one. (customer) that is something else. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ did is locatedhat 70% of youin your gut?tem to boost your immune system: try align gut health & immunity support. align's quality probiotic strain,
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nearly a month after being kidnapped, one morning the captors came for amanda and her colleague nigel. they were taken out of tear their room and marched outside, there he was the man known as adam. >> we were terrified and a small video camera was brought out. we were told to beg for our lives. >> september 17th, 2008, lorinda
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turned on the tv in canada and saw this. a hostage video on al jazeera. she was crushed. it was the first time she had seen amanda and she didn't look good. what was your feeling as you watched it? >> i just want to bring her home and never, never let her go. >> weeks turned to months and then their captors separated amanda and nigel. >> why was that so important? >> that day and the days that followed were among the very, very worst, because suddenly i'm alone with my own thoughts and my mind. >> amanda's mind ran wild. she feared she would be raped. then one day a captor entered her room. >> it turns out your fears were justified? >> he did cross that line and my worst fears were realized. and my whole experience in
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captivity really changed. >> somehow, she held on and then one night amanda was jostled awake and driven out into the desert alone. what happened next was terrifying. >> they brought me over to an acacia tree. had me kneel. my head was pulled back and there was a serrated knife. >> the ruthless kidnappers told a desperate amanda, she only had three minutes to plead for her life, with her traumatized mother on the other end of the call. i was sure that that was it. that they were going to kill me. >> it must have felt like an eternity. >> it did. i felt despair because i didn't want to be the end.
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>> then they hand you a phone. who's on the phone? >> my mom. >> the ruthless kidnappers told a desperate amanda she only had three minutes to pleads for her life with her traumatized mother on the end of the call. >> mama. >> amanda. i love you. amanda. how are you? >> mom, listen, to me okay. >> okay. >> if you guys don't pay one million dollars for me by one week, they will kill me. okay. tonight they have brought me out to kill me, but they have given me one more chance. to call you guys. >> amanda, amanda, stay strong. stay strong, hon. >> that phone call definitely made it harder not to let my imagination go.
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>> did you keep it together? >> i just felt like i had to. >> that i had to be strong for her. after the call we had just sat there and cried. things had taken a change. they weren't going to be nice anymore, if you could call anything they did nice. >> canada does not pay ransom to kidnappers, so if lorinda wanted to buy amanda's freedom, she was on her own. a world away in somalia, amanda and nigel locked in separate rooms discovered something. if they each stood at their windows, they could hear each other. they began to hatch a plan. >> i realized we might have a chance to escape out that bathroom window.
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which at first seemed like an impossible idea. >> each time they used the bathroom, they chipped away at the mortar holding the bricks together blocking the window. then they would replace the loose bricks until one day the hole was big enough and they made a break for it. >> from the moment that i dropped down a out of that bathroom window and hit the sand below, i knew that it was bad. >> they sprinted for a mosque. the one place where they thought they'd be safe. >> right before we stepped in, i
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looked back and i saw one of our young captors. >> inside the mosque, one person stepped forward to try and help amanda, someone she'll never forget. >> it was the first woman that i had seen in about five months and when she hugged me and held on to me, it was the first time in those five months that i felt something akin to being safe. >> that feeling would be fleeting. >> i just clung on to her and i started pouring out my heart to this woman and she began pleading with my captors to let me go. >> her pleas were ignored. the kidnappers circled amanda guns drawn and began dragging her out of the mosque.
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>> that woman threw herself on top of me and was drug part way across the floor with me until she couldn't hang on anymore and right before they pulled me out the door of the mosque, i looked back and i saw her on the floor. she had tears pouring down her face and she still had her hands outstretched to help me. >> you don't know whatever happened to that woman? >> no, i don't. >> after the escape attempt, adam and the gang clearly grew frustrated and adam took it out on lorinda. >> if i had the money, i would pay you. we are not playing games. it's you that are playing games. >> the escape attempt made things much worse for ayman california they tied your arms and legs and pulled your body up by ropes and leave you?
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>> yeah, it's very hard for me to go back to that and think about what happened to me during those three days. >> after that, adam forced her onto the phone again. it's one of the hardest calls to listen to. >> amanda. >> mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy, listen to me please. >> amanda. >> they need a million dollars now because they started to torture meeee. >> the calls were agonizing. the calls of amanda and nigel desperate to have their children home eventually hired a private security company to help. months went by and one night her captors came to her room. >> they marched me outside and had me sit down on the cement and began sawing through the chains that had been the on my ankles for ten months. >> amanda and nigel hadn't seen
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each other for months, but now they were thrown into the back seat of a car and driven into the dark somali night. >> we are both crying. guns surround this car that we're in. and i think this is it. >> then a man appears at the window. >> he says to me, why are you crying? here, talk to your mother. >> she said to me, amanda, you're free. >> amanda's mother lorinda had never stopped negotiating and adam had agreed to accept $680,000 for both amanda and nigel. the captives flew out of somalia into kenya, they were whisked away to a hospital. mother and daughter finally reunited.
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>> people ask me what it was like when i first saw her. i know they are envisioning running in slow motion and running and crying. but i barely recognized her. it was relief, it was joy and it was heart. heartache to see her like that. >> i would not be here now if it was not for my mother. my mom gave me life and she saved my life. >> amanda lindhout was finally safe, back with her family, but adam, the one who tormented them so much wasn't finished with them yet. a single word from him would bring it all back. coming up. >> did your heart stop? >> it was so scary that he could find me. >> a facebook message from
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amanda lindhout was back home in canada, struggling to move beyond the horrific events in somalia and trying to cope with the idea that the captors who so terrorized her might never be brought to justice. and as amanda tried to get her life back on track. there was an interruption. >> i had enrolled in a program in eastern canada. it was during a break between classes. i was checking my e-mails. i saw i had received a facebook message. >> one word, hello. it was from the last person she ever wanted to hear from. >> it was a message from adam there did your heart stop? >> it was so scary that he could find me even though i was safe and across the world and was at home, it was really disarming.
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>> that one simple message was about to launch a new and dangerous chapter of her story. the messages didn't stop there. lorinda heard from adam, too. but her communications with him extended beyond hello. out of the blue, you get this facebook message from adam. it must have been shocking? >> it was a total shock. it was kind of terrifying, too, because it just felt like it was right in my space again. >> adam taunted lorinda. he said he was reaching out because he had journals amanda had written in captivity, deeply personal writing that had helped her get through it all. >> what were you thinking when you applied that? >> i was hoping that i could get him to send amanda's journals. >> but if lorinda wanted those precious journal, adam said, she'd have to pay. for lorinda it was outrageous, her daughter's kidnapper trapped
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her down with more demands for cash. that when she reached out once again to the royal canadian mounted police. in ottowa, a staff sergeant named larry laren got a call from his bosses. >> we become aware adam has been in touch with her. tant my team was engaged to pursue that to the full extent. >> a 30-year veteran, he ran priority undercover projects for the royal canadian mounted police. his mission, find adam. if that was even his name. >> he reaches out on facebook, which means you have his facebook address, right? >> we do. >> you kind of know where he is. >> we know he's in somalia. >> right. >> we suspect he is using an alias, so the principle course of action tant is who is adam? and so to do that, we have to engage him directly through an under cover operation. >> under cover agent? >> correct? is he going to start getting in touch with adam?
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>> yes. >> that's where this man comes in. he's a canadian investigator who we've agreed to refer to by his cover name a.k.. >> right off the top, we want to acknowledge we are hiding your identity. we've changed your look. >> yes. >> that's because are you an under cover agent? >> correct. >> a.k. reached out to adam first by phone. the under cover agent told him he was a media consultant for amanda's family. amanda didn't know about a.k. or what he was doing. all she knew was adam's facebook messages had triggered some kind of investigation. >> i didn't really know what was going on. i knew there was the hope to catch this guy. >> a.k. and adam communicated on and off for years. it was slow work. but a.k. knew pushing too hard could crater the operation and
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patience paid off. >> one day i received an e-mail from him which was a scanned copies of 16 letters. >> they looked like letters, but they were actually pages ripped from amanda's journals. adam had originally asked for thousands of dollars for them. but now. >> i call him up and i ask him about this he says, yeah, i send you the letters, i don't need any money for them. our relationship had evolved to the point where he trusts me enough now. >> then adam shared a new idea. he told a.k. he was a scholar and wanted to write a book, a history on somalia. as implausible as that sounds. to investigators, it was an unexpected gift, a way to get adam on the hook. >> you are telling a kidnapper -- >> yes. >> -- who you believe was involved in this really major kidnaping -- >> yeah. >> -- a plot of crimes that you are going to help him publish a book? >> yes. >> it does, we often refer to this version as the hail mary play. we didn't think it would work.
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as it was continuing, we were surprised, ours. >> you didn't think he'd want to write a book? >> no. >> and i will pursue this with you? >> no, he convinced himself he wanted to write a book and he was able to write this book. >> that's our in. >> that's your in. >> we looked at him and thought how are we moving forward? how are we gathering evidence? that's our goal, gathering the evidence and maybe one day bringing him to justice. >> money, fame. to amanda, it was just the kind of bait that could trap her kidnappers. >> it totally fits in line with what i knew out of this man. he struck me as the kind of guy whose ego was so big. of course, if somebody told him he is capable of writing a book he would think that. >> the hail mary play was in motion. but investigators knew they needed more than phone calls and e-mails. their next move, get adam to meet in person. >> coming up. >> we need to see him. >> we need to see him to
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i'm dara brown. here's what's happening. there's more than 12 million coronavirus cases in the u.s. in california, a new curfew began saturday night. the order is in effect until december 21st. in philadelphia, the mayor banned all indoor dining an put capacity restrictions on out door dining. gatherings at private residences are prohibited. these restrictions last until tend of the year. now back to "dateline."
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part of her journey included shared her journey with the world. four years after being released, she released her memoir, "a house in the sky". >> people say have you read this book. you have reached a lot of people. >> most people have never been kidnapped but people moe pain and loss and adverse ity that ty don't think they can get through. they find inspiration and a me minder they are strong too. >> her strength would become crucial to the operation now under way. investigators knew they had her kidnappers on the hook. they also knew that in order to get justice for amanda, they needed more than long distance conversations. >> we need to see him. >> we need to see him, to
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identify him fully. >> whose idea was it to meet face-to-face? >> it was his idea. >> imagine the opportunity to meet with one of amanda's kid p kidnappers face-to-face but where in the world to do it. somali, too dangerous. canada, too risky. this island gem with its pristi pristine beaches, crystal clear water, beautiful mountain vistas and luxury resorts. ak convinced the kidnapper that he would serve as his book agent and invited adam here to talk about the project. >> adam lives in a really difficult place to live. you're bringing him to a place where europeans come on vacation. >> i think it solidified my status as an international business person. somebody who has the means to get him what he wanted which was a book contract.
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>> adam took the bait. here he is in mauritius with a.k. >> did you ever get worried he'd figure you out? >> he turned to me, what did you think of me? your english is so great. i turned it back on him, what did you think of me? and he said, first i thought you were intelligence, but now, now we are brothers. >> against a backdrop of serene stillness and beauty, the brothers continue to talk and even relax. they each had something to gain in this face-to-face meeting. >> he had one objective, getting that book deem? >> he did. >> it seemed you had one objective? >> definitely we had one objective. >> the objective was to see him confirm that adam was, indeed, the man who had terrorized amanda and lorinda. next, they wanted him to admit his involvement in the kidnapping. that's where the phony book deal
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came in. >> we knew he was interested in writing a book. we brought props, one was a book cover we had designed. i was going to design a contract with him that laid out his and my relationship vis-a-vis the publisher. >> the contract had a trap buried in it, adam would have to disclose any wrong-doing in his past. >> it had a special par graph, a disclosure par graph to encourage him to tell us his story. >> he signed and incredibly, he told his story, including details of his involvement in the kidnapping. can you believe he is saying this all out loud? >> in my head, i was dancing. it was amazing, you couldn't ask for better evidence. >> he even described his role in one of amanda's worst days that hostage video on al jazeera. >> i showed am video on al jazeera. he pointed to himself and said, i'm the one that shot that video. >> amanda vividly remembers that
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video and adam that day. >> adam was now manning that, setting the stage for this video. i would say there was a great deal of excitement among all of them that they were going to be doing this little video and you know in their mind. >> it would get attention. >> surely getting attention and money. >> in mauritius, investigators accomplished two big thing, identified adam as the kidnapper and got to him admit his crimes. after all that work it still wasn't enough to arrest adam. mauritian law prohibited a.k. from recording the confession. >> so have you no video or audio of what he is saying? >> no, correct. >> investigators wanted to have the strongest evidence they could against adam in order to prosecute him under canadian law. >> you were leaving mauritius with a success, but you need more? >> yeah, we do.
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>> how did you feel when you left here? >> conflicted. >> you are leaving him, watching him go back to somalia. >> it was, as investigators, we succeeded in getting the every day, in getting the identity. but we had to let him go, like a catch and release program. >> in order to catch adam and bring him to justice, they were hoping they could lure him even farther from home, a place where they could control the setting. all the way to canada, but how on earth would they convince adam to do that and how long would it take? well, you want justice, this is dragging on for years. >> and as the years passed, i started to think the likelihood of that would diminish. >> coming up, investigators set a trap. >> i'm so excited. >> i'm, i'm intelligent person. >> it played out like a movie. >> i answered the phone and my heart started pounding. ct pet h? with new bounce pet hair & lint guard,
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amanda lindhout knew investigators were doing their best to bring her kidnapper to justice. >> every month i would have visit with rcmp. during these meetings they could never tell me very much, but enough to give me at least a little bit of confidence that they might be able to pull this off. >> a.k. and his team considered the undercover operation in mauritius a success. i wasn't enough. they wanted more. why did you go to canada? >> we didn't want him arrested
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overseas. we wanted him in the country to deal with him in the most efficient way possible. >> in order to get adam in canada, they had to get him there. a.k. had to convince him the fake book deal was real. >> he thinks you are his book agent? >> i'm his book agent. so we were now at the point he was going to meet the publishers. it's difficult to do to send him a plane ticket out of somalia. >> difficult it would turn out? >> you will bring an international kidnapper into canada? >> correct. >> that doesn't sound easy. >> the dichotomy we are usually in the business of keeping them out of the country. >> planning for a kidnapper would take time and threaten the operation. once again a.k. played the long game. >> i kept putting him off, we will be meeting with the publisher soon. then at one point i had to fake a heart attack.
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>> i'm sorry, had you to fake a heart attack? >> fake a heart attack. that was the way we were able to put him off for a while. >> yeah in real life you were doing other cases? >> yes. >> finally, after years of hard work and delays for amanda and her mother, everything was in place and adam was on a plane to canada. >> he arrives at the airport in ottowa. he comes in, there is big hugs. we sit down, and we talk about the impending book deal, the publishing deal that was about to be signed. >> adam was looking forward to a different kind of future, little did he know that is precisely what he would get out of this deal. >> i go into the room with adam. first we have a board room set up for a meeting. the book publishers arrives, come in he and i are allegedly old friends. >> this is my star. he wants to meet you. >> he was actually an under cover agents? >> both under cover agents. we chit chat, sit down and go
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over the contract. adam goes over everything he had done. >> so you would -- you would be the negotiator between the people that had amanda? >> and i told lorinda this. i'm the spokesman. i'm intelligent person. >> it played out like a movie, it was excellent. >> he is actually confessing to you his crimes? >> why. >> so back in the three months then, as far as i understand it from what lorinda told me, you were still the person on the phone? >> yes. >> you were supposed to get some money? >> yes. >> do you know how much? >> i don't know, but i was expecting more than that. >> what did they give you? >> $10,000. >> after that meeting, you walk out. >> yes. >> we sign the contract, everybody is very happy and we were walking out because i told him we were going for a tour of ottowa. >> that didn't happen?
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>> you were both arrested, you were arrested, too, you were under cover? >> uniform police handcuffed us both. sgr. >> he must have been shocked. >> he was, you could see in his face, he was clearly thrown by this. and i had to play up you know get your hands off my client what are you doing here? this is ridiculous. they handcuffed us both and led us off if different directions. i went for a beer, he went to jail. >> it's been seven years since amanda lindhout had been chained in a squalid cell in somalia terrorized and tortured by her kidnappers for 466 days. now adam was in chains, himself, amanda was home when she got the news. >> i answered the phone and i was home alone and my heart started pounding. and he said, we've arrested adam. and i fell to my knees and i started crying and the next day i woke up and it was my 34th birthday, on the front page of
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every newspaper in canada was his face. a face that i hadn't seen in over five years. especially came in right after and she was crying and i think she was saying they got him, they got him, they got adam. >> and what were your feelings? >> i was crying. and i couldn't even speak. >> and immediately my mind went to, well, there's going to be a trial and i will have to testify in that trial and the weight of that and what that really meant to me and would mean to my life became real. >> amanda is about to take the witness stand and come face-to-face with her captor at last. >> coming up. >> she's crying. she was upset. >> i was so afraid to see this man again. >> what would happen inside that courtroom? >> i wondered if i could do it. ? because when caught in early stages,
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as unlikely as it may have seemed, authorities had their man in kidnapping of amanda and they got him in canada. the royal canadian mounted police announced adam's capture to the world. >> this arrest is a testament o the investigative team's percent vee rans and i wish to thank them for their work. >> with the investigation over, it would be up to amanda herself to keep adam behind bars. it would take everything she had to do it. >> i'm going to have to testify. i'm going to have to face this man in court. >> you're going to have to see him. >> yeah. >> before that could happen, amanda would have to assist the prosecution team in building its case against the kidnapper. >> a group of us would meet every couple of months for two and a half years. >> wow. that's exhausting.
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>> it was exhausting. this was such a difficult story for me there was still so much real active trauma in telling of this story and i just so appreciated the time that they took with me guiding me through the process and as the trial date was getting closer, i can't say it became easier. the idea facing him caused me a lot of pain. >> kroft michaelson was the lead propertiey prosecutor. >> what were the biggest challenges? >> the magnitude of the file. there were more than 700 e-mails between a.k. and adam, alone. the second challenge was are the witnesses going to be able to testify. >> the man known to amanda and lorinda named adam was a 40-year-old somali national.
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the trial began in the kidnapping of amanda lindhoult. "dateline" was with her that morning. >> what was in your head in. >> in those moments before entering the courtroom, i wondered if i could do it. i was so afraid to see this man again. >> the thought of seeing him sflp t. >> the thought of seeing his face. i gathered myself. i needed to do that as much for myself as anything. >> i just saw you gather yourself just there when you said it. it's still hard for you. >> it is. i expect it always will be. this is real life like pain. then the doors opened and i walked into the courtroom and adam was sitting directly in front of me. i kind of crumbled. >> now came the moment for amanda to testify against her kidnapper. >> you describe it for me?
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? >> she was crying. she was upset and afraid. she swung her head over and looked at dame adam in the box she stopped crying and gave him a look like i would never want anyone looking at me like that. >> what kind of a look ? >> it was a firm resolve. >> seeing him sitting across from me as a prisoner in that box, that was also the truth now. >> it's a reversal. >> exactly. he looked so small, in way, sitting in that box. >> in her system, amanda spoke openly about how adam terrorized her. she was on the stand for one long day. >> okay. my name is adam. >> her mom spent three days in court listening to the phone calls that would prove crucial to the case. >> i am not lying to you. >> you do no want amanda to be
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harmed because if you want, you should pay the money. >> again, you have to relive it. >> yeah. it was empowering, the truth was being told. there was a small part of me that actually felt sorry for him. >> compassion for him. >> yeah. sdp >> adam's defense was he, himself, had been taken hostage and they had threatened him. >> in the end, his defense didn't work. the man known as adam was found guilty of kidnappi ingkidnappin. for his crimes he was sentenced to 15 years in a canadian prison. victory for amanda. she addressed adam in her victim's impact statement. i am the victim. i'm also the survivor. i will go out and live the
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lessons of this. i choose to lean into the lesson and challenge of finding forgiveness, compassion and peace. those words bringing to a close not one but two improbable stores. amanda's kidnapping and the years spent in pursuit of justice. >> ten years of your life. >> ten years. five years for the undercover operation. five years for the krix. >> worth it? >> absolutely. >> he's sitting in prison in this country. do you any about that ever? >> it's justice. i don't take joy in any suffering of any other human being. >> have you forgiven adam? >> i can't say yes or no to that question. it's not forgiving because adam deserves to be forgiven. i deserve to have the freedom in my life of not being full of that anger all the time and keep pointing my feet towards
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forgiveness. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> my no, ma'am is hemom is on . >> a stunning twist in family's desperate search for justice. >> nothing has turned out right. >> a wife and mother murdered. >> she was in casket like position. her arms were crossed. >> who would have a motive to kill a lady in rural iowa? >>

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