good morning, and welcome in. happy thanksgiving to everyone. i'm cori coffin. welcome in to our special coverage on msnbc. as you're waking up with us on this thanksgiving, millions of people are waking up as well trying to figure out what they're going to make of this unusual holiday. one man in particular has an extra reason to be thankful, the president's former national security adviser michael flynn. on wednesday the president issued a full pardon to flynn who pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi not once but twice as the president's latest attempt

to protect his allies and take a shot at his enemies. joe biden was in delaware delivering on a very different message calling on the nation to unite following this long period of division, the past four years. he also called on americans to keep fighting against a coronavirus. he promised that overcoming this virus is his top priority, but we have to do it together. of course today we'll all be tested as we try to make this holiday with our families and our loved ones safe as possible without spreading the virus even further. while the death rate is lower than it has been in the past, the sheer number of infections continues to surge all over this country, and experts warn that things will only get worse this winter. we'll have the latest on the virus and the concerns about the holiday season in a moment. we'll break all that down for you. i want to start with the big political headlines this morning. ali vitali is with the president-elect on the delaware coast, and carol lee is covering him at the white house and hannah trudeau a politics reporter at "the daily beast." welcome in, happy thanksgiving

to you. talk to me about the flynn pardon. i think the big thing is or at least the big speculation is that maybe this is the first of many? >> yeah, that's right, cori. this is one that was expected, is the lowest of the hanging fruits in terms of pardons when it comes to president trump. he said for many months this was something he wanted to do. there was some expectation that he would allow, and the flynn team had wanted to allow the court process to play out, the justice department had requested a dismissal of the case and that was still unfolding in court, but with the president losing his re-election effort, they were running against time, and so the president moved in and pardoned michael flynn with a full pardon and we're expecting that he's going to continue with a number of other pardons, everything from, you know, criminal -- part of his criminal justice reform effort where we've seen the president pardon people or commute sentences for people who were accused of non-violent drug offenses, and

then the president's own allies and his inner circle, there's any number of people who have been tide in the russia investigation or have been indicted or are under investigation that the president could target from paul manafort to others in the president's orbit. we know he's asked this question of his advisers in the past, of would he pardon himself, cori? >> and ali, this contrast between the president basically saying that the election was taken from him and president-elect biden trying to unify this country, these are very stark messages that americans are getting on this thanksgiving. what are they to make of all of this? >> yeah, a huge juxtaposition. it's the same thing that we used to see during the campaign. only now each of these people have an equal bully pulpit to do it from, joe biden in waiting to be president of the united states and donald trump still finishing out his term there, and we're seeing them do very different things with these next 50 days. joe biden spending this time trying to plan his government,

certainly, but also trying to lay out his list of priorities. we've seen him every few days now giving these addresses, trying to step into that role of president, and by leading by talking about the virus. we saw those remarks yesterday talking about the loss that americans have felt at this point, more than 260,000 americans dead from this virus. biden speaking directly to that. unfortunately, he is no stranger to loss. in an op-ed that he put out today, he talks directly to the empty chairs that might be at americans' thanksgiving tables this year as well as just how different this holiday looks because of the pandemic. i want to read for you a little bit from that op-ed in which biden says this year of loss has revealed our collective strength and has shown us that our lives are connected in ways unseen that we can be apart without being alone. it sort of speaks to the larger theme of what he's been trying to do over the course of the last few weeks and i imagine over the course of the few weeks following this as we get closer

and closer to inauguration day trying to prioritize tackling the coronavirus while also saying that while the federal government has a role to play, there is also individual responsibility here. things like wearing masks, social distancing, and in the case of thanksgiving, maybe not going home and seeing family. the bidens for their part have changed what their thanksgiving looks like as well. they're here in rehoboth beach not with the full biden family we saw on stage, but just with his wife, dr. jill biden, their daughter and son-in-law. a different thanksgiving for all americans this year as we continue to contend with the coronavirus pandemic. >> and carol, in your reporting you have mentioned that we really haven't heard much from the president since the election. what is on his agenda today? >> well, today, he's spending thanksgiving in washington with his family, which is unusual. he usually goes to his estate in south florida to spend thanksgiving, but he'll be here. and the only thing on his schedule is a video teleconference with u.s. troops. that's later this afternoon at

3:00. and unlike in past years, this one is closed to the press. usually they would allow some members of the media in there. sometimes that's turned into a back and forth question and answer for more than an hour. so a little disappointing that that won't happen today, but he did speak yesterday. he called into this meeting of republicans in the state of pennsylvania led by his personal attorney rudy giuliani where they aired grooechbievances and accusations of fraud, none of which have been substantiated and the president eventually said that he believes he won this election which is not true and that they needed to overturn the results of this election, which is not going to happen, but he's -- even as he's letting this transition move forward with the biden team, there's this other screen where he's continuing to make allegations of fraud and continuing to dig in and gin up his supporters on the idea that he actually won this election. it was taken from him. >> hannah, biding takes office january 21st, 2021, saying he

wants to focus on immigration. he wants to focus on climate change, obviously covid relief. all of this sounds great, but with these sweeping changes that he wants to make, if the republicans stay in control in the senate, how exactly is he going to be able to get this done? >> i think those are some of the calculations he's starting to do right now. as ali alluded to, he is trying to assemble and put together a cabin cabinet and a government that is not only a stark contrast from president trump's but is also happening in the sort of unraveling as we see it of coronavirus he mentioned in his presidential thanksgiving address yesterday. like ali said, trying to unify the country, trying to bring folks together. but while also looking to the future. now, there are concrete steps that he will have to take, and part of those initial steps are assembling these cabinet positions. with we saw him roll out several on the national security front,

for example. these are ongoing and very calculated decisions, also in contrast like to what we've seen in the past with president trump. you know, one thing i find interesting is that in a lot of the conversations that i've had around these transitions is that people often say, you know, biden is not going to just choose somebody that was maybe nice to him five minutes ago or that he maybe met on, you know, the campaign trail or something like that in the way that trump sort of does. but more so, he's chosen people that perhaps had, you know, a deputy position in that same cabinet in prior administrations in the obama administration, for example, tony blinken, secretary of state nomination comes to mind as somebody that's just very, very skilled in his department and is accepted broadly within the democratic party and is also somebody that to biden's earlier stated commitment throughout not only just the general election but also the broader primary is that he wanted to choose officials to surround himself with that would be ready to take the job on day

one, and just would be as prepared as his sort of immediate close inner circle was, and we're seeing that start to unroll. >> you have talked about kind of that line he's trying to walk, trying to fend off pressure from progressives. nbc's lester holt asked him about that very thing. listen in. >> what about former rivals from your own party, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, have you talked to them about cabinet positions? >> well, i've talked to -- look, as i said, we already have significant representation among progressives in our administration, but there's nothing really off the table. one thing is really critical, taking someone out of the senate, taking someone out of the house, particularly a person of consequence is really a difficult decision would have to be made. i have a very ambitious, very progressive agenda, and it's going to take really strong leaders in the house and senate to get it done.

>> okay. so is that going to be tough for him to not put as many progressives on the cabinet as the party might want? is that going to be a problem for him? >> well, i think that's an ongoing -- an ongoing discussion, ongoing potential conflict among some of the parties who are left wing. the one thing i did some reporting on this this past few days, one thing that i found so far is that progressives are actually overwhelmingly sort of main figure head progressives who are leading these movements, everything from grass roots to elected officials tend to be quite happy with the initial choices he's made, i think in particular janet yellen is somebody that was a favorite of a elizabeth warren's, former federal reserve chair now expected to lead the treasury if confirmed. so there's these people that are sort of very skilled in their areas of expertise but also strategically on the biden's end not enflaming the left or not sort of starting a tribal war of

sorts earlier than necessary. i think it's something that's going to be worth watching as these nominations continue to roll out because the left has made several of their priorities clear, and they have listed several people already as sort of no-goes in terms of who they don't want to see. it's going to be interesting to follow that. >> having to walk that line, whether it's republicans or democrats who have control of that senate, you still need support from every single one of the democrats because that line would be tight even if the incoming races in georgia are won by the democrats. ali vitali, carol lee, and hannah trudeau, thanks for coming back with us this morning, ladies, and again, happy thanksgiving. let's get now to the latest on the coronavirus crisis. the u.s. seeing the highest number of daily deaths since july. more than 2,000 americans have lost their lives bringing the total number of deaths to more than 263,000 since this pandemic began. at the same time, the number of cases continues to surge.

183,000 new infections were reported on wednesday, just one day alone. overall 12.8 million americans have contracted the virus. we want to go live now to dasha burns. she's been in tennessee where rural health care workers are stretched thin. they are trying to keep beds own among the cases and among the surge this that area now. and dasha bs te, tell us what y learning from health care workers there. >> reporter: hey, cori, good morning, right now there are a lot of americans waking up, getting ready to make maybe a smaller than usual thanksgiving dinner and it's a challenging time for a lot of us right now, but look, in this building behind me there are health care workers who are caring for patients who are fighting for their lives right now. there will be calls made to funeral homes today. that is a grim reality to talk about on a thanksgiving morning, but it is the reality. they have seen record numbers of deaths here in just the last couple of weeks, and at this point, the rate of admissions to these hospitals in this area is

greater than the rate of discharge, which means there are more people coming in than there are coming out, and that is putting a lot of strain, particularly on the nurses here, and i want to bring in one of those front line health workers here. this is abigail, and abigail, walk me through what you've been seeing, especially over the last couple of weeks compared to what you've seen throughout the course of this pandemic. >> so in the beginning, this really was not, i guess, taking it as seriously as it is now. it wasn't expected to be as big of a deal as it is now. we started out with one to two covid units whereas now we have five to six units. >> what are you seeing in those covid units, especially over the last couple of weeks? >> it's a wide variety of patients. you can have older patients with the underlying health issues or patients in their younger 30s that are completely healthy, and it still affects everybody just as hard. it's a little bit harder now during the holidays and with the restrictions because of covid that they can't have family with them or they just may not have family in the area, so we become

their family over the next couple of weeks while they're with us or until they pass on because of covid. >> and this is a community where people are tight-knit. everybody knows everybody, so the folks they're caring for, they're not necessarily strangers. they're your neighbors. what is that like? >> it's definitely hard to see people that you know or maybe like a high school teacher or friends of family, you know, and caring for them and seeing them like that because, i mean, like i said, everybody becomes family whether you knew them to begin with or not. >> abigail, thank you so much. you're doing such incredible work, and right now there are nurses like abigail who are getting sick, about 250 team members in the health system right now are out with covid-19 who have tested positive who are recovering right now, and they're looking for help. they're looking to recruit more nurses, trying to bring folks out of retirement to help. they're even getting some people from international communities here to help out. it is just such a critical time,

and the message that i keep hearing, the folks in this community, what they can do to help, wear a mask, sanitize, social distance, and stay home if you can. >> that's the message that we're hearing across the country, too, is that there is going to be -- they anticipate a shortage of health care workers, those critical front line workers, dasha burns, thank you. there is much more ahead including more than 20 days after joe biden won the election, the president-elect is scheduled to receive his first official presidential daily briefing on monday. next, congressman mike quigley, a member of the house permanent select committee on intelligence joins me live to talk about whether anything was lost in the time in between. and we'll get his reaction to the flynn pardon. plus, overnight the supreme court barred the new york governor's restrictions on religious services due to the coronavirus pandemic, and we will have the latest in a live report. but now, a live look along the parade route at the macy's thanksgiving day parade, getting ready kick off in the next hour. we're just getting started with this busy thanksgiving morning.

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it is a body blow to our national security. it's also a body blow to the rule of law. >> that was house intel committee chairman adam schiff reacting to president trump's pardon of his former national security adviser michael flynn. speaker nancy pelosi also reacted to the pardon overnight calling it, quote, an act of grave corruption and a brazen abuse of power. with me now, congressman mike quigley, democrat of illinois and a member of the house intelligence committee. congressman, good morning to you. happy thanksgiving. let me jump right in and let's start with the reaction to the presidential pardon of michael flynn. what's your reaction to that? >> i woke up this morning thinking who's next, right? who's the president going to pardon next? devastating attack on the rule of law for our country. clearly the founding fathers wanted there to be a strong pardon power, but they had just

thrown off the yoke of an oppressive king, and they certainly didn't want the chief executive to have the ability to circumvent the rule of law for themselves. >> a trump ally says this was, quote, very good use of the pardon power by president trump. general flynn was not a russian agent. instead he was the victim of politically motivated investigation and prosecution where the ends justified the means. does this square, though, with what your committee found in its russia investigation? >> let's just remember he lied to the fbi about his communications with ambassador kislyak in a process which circumvented u.s. foreign policy in addressing their attack on our democratic process. that's pretty important, and he pled guilty to it twice, so he must have had some sense of what he had done was being wrong, but the president came to his

rescue, and we have to face those circumstances. and at this point in time, the only thing we can do is change this law and take this into consideration so that future presidents aren't allowed to do this, much like the reforms that took place after watergate. >> but is that going to be an uphill battle to change a law like that? so engrained in our society. >> i think we can pass it out of the house. i know the president-elect would be interested in something like that because he does believe in the rule of law, and i'd like to think that there are at least a majority of senators who believe this was the wrong thing to do and no future president, democrat or republican, should be allowed to do something like this. >> and speaking of president-elect biden, he is set to get his first daily presidential briefing on monday, full-ti finally, something that can happen only now that the general services commission has recognized the president. are you confident that the biden team can catch up on those

briefings and be ready on day one? >> i think the real damage there was to the transition process, and i think that's a big concern. again, something -- this transition can't be discretionary. there has to be certain benchmarks that say if this happens the transition process moves forward. so look, and i put the blame here squarely on the president, not the administrator or anybody else. he has created this problem, and again, one we have to correct. i do think that they can overcome this. they have the time necessary. as a member of the house select committee on intelligence, when we're in session, i'll get briefed two or three times a week and see how vile it is and clearly important to the president of the united states to keep us safe. if i was the president i'd want to get briefed two or three times a day. in contrast to president-elect trump four years ago saying he didn't think he needed these, and he began his degradation of

the intelligence community at that point. >> i want to try to squeeze in two more questions with you that are both very important. biden announced his national security team this week. we'll pull up some of those names, some familiar faces from the obama administration. what's your take on these names that they bring to the table and kind of this shift away from the current administration? >> look, they can hit the ground running. the time's clearly demand experience and, boy, do we need them to get ready go on day one. the threats that we have experienced for so long, china, russia, north korea, syria, iran, they're all still there. the threat of isis and its resurgence, the psycyber attack and if anyone thinks the terrorism threat doesn't exist they're sadly mistaken. >> all right, finally, congressman, we have skyrocketing number of cases for coronavirus, yet not another relief bill in sight.

and the labor department says nearly 14 million americans are getting unemployment benefits that will expire after christmas day. as a member of congress, what do you say to people who are relying on this lifeline? >> i would agree that it has to get done immediately. the fact of the matter is the house, the democratic controlled house passed a measure, what, seven, eight months ago, passed a compromised measure just a couple of months ago. we're willing to negotiate and get something done. clearly i'd like to get something done to get us into the new administration. my advice to the biden administration would be let's get something done that lasts for the entire year to give people certainty, to understand that they'll have food to eat and a roof above their head, small businesses will be taken care of, and of course help for local governments who are facing such extraordinary tax shortfalls. >> yeah, you mentioned the food that families are going to be not having this thanksgiving. it's sadly ironic, the food

banks out there in this country are the worst they've ever been in terms of stock and in terms of lines miles long. you've mentioned kind of what you think needs to get done. what's the deal? what's the compromise here to make it happen? >> i think the normal process as we all know from civics lessons, the house passes a bill. the senate passes, we go to compromise. >> what's a reasonable number? >> at this point in time, i would be happy to get something done that takes us into february or march and then we have to think big, and we did that, and we show that we can act on a bipartisan, bicameral basis when this first began when the quarantine began with covid, you know, last march. like obviously we can do it again, we must. we must remember those who are without on this thanksgiving, and we have so much to be thankful for ourselves.

>> aptly named words, we can and we must from congressman mike quigley this morning, congressman, thank you. thank you. something else that's quint sishl fall, watching football on thanksgiving, it's a very, very big tradition. details on the last minute change due to covid-19 that will impact your nfl viewing plans. and growing concerns over whether astrazeneca coronavirus vaccine will be approved in the u.s. after the company admitted to mistakes in the vaccine trial. we'll talk with our medical experts about the impacts next. ♪ we made usaa insurance for veterans like martin. when a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa

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we'll bring you the latest on the coronavirus pandemic, here are the facts at this hour. astrazeneca now acknowledging a dee m key mistake in the vaccine dosage received by the participants. days after announcing that its vaccine trial appeared to be 90% effective. the disclosure is now raising questions about whether it will gain approval for use in the u.s. for the 22nd straight day new cases of the coronavirus topped more than 100,000 with 183,000 new infections. that brings the total number of cases nationwide to more than 12.8 million. and in new york, supreme court barring that state from enforcing limits on attendance

for house s of worship. we want to go live to gabe gutierrez in new york city. walk us through what that supreme court decision means for houses of worship in new york. >> reporter: good morning, happy thanksgiving. yes, this was a late night in junction that came out. it was a 5-4 opinion, and it really highlights the impact of amy coney barrett who sided with her conservative colleagues in this ruling while chief justice john roberts sided with the liberal side of the court. now, this essentially blocks governor andrew cuomo from enforcing those 10 to 25 person limits on houses of worship. now, the state had argued that it was necessary to stop the spread of covid-19. in an unsigned majority opinion, however, the justices said that this essentially violates religious freedom and the lawsuit was brought by the roman

catholic diocese of brooklyn, and again, the supreme court sided with those that brought the lawsuit who would argue that houses of worship were being unfairly singled out and that there was no evidence that these restrictions would stop the spread of covid-19, cori. >> and we want to also note that the restrictions have since been lifted, so that's something that could go into place at some point if those restrictions are put back into place. gabe, happy thanksgiving and thank you for being with us. joining us now msnbc public health analyst, dr. irwin redlener, doctor, welcome in. thanks for being here. what is your reaction to the supreme court blocking new york from enforcing attendance limits on houses of worship? i mean, medically speaking it seems difficult because you do want to limit that, but of course you don't want to limit constitutional rights for religious practices. >> hi, cori, good morning, yeah, this is a really difficult

question. the problem is that these gatherings and we saw gatherings of 10,000 people. we've seen funerals and other religious events and services that have actually caused upticks and have acted as spreader events. we really have a conflict between what people are perceiving as the constitutional right to gather and religious and worship however they wish. a major overriding public health concern. i was disappointed in the supreme court ruling because what it's going to do is it's going to permit more and more religious organizations to create events which are -- there's no two ways about it. these are spreader events, and it makes it really, really difficult to control the spread of the covid-19. the other point to make is justice gorsuch actually wrote in his own opinion that was not part of the overall court's decision, that it would be -- he compared a religious ceremony to, you know a bicycle shop

where you go shopping for bikes. why are they restricted -- why are they not restricted and now governors want to restrict the religious gatherings. it was, i think, an over the top irrelevant comparison, but anyway, i think this is going to be a problem from a public health point of view. >> trying to compare apples and oranges there. speaking of these spreader events, on your website you put out a video talking about the risk for people gathering for the holiday and for thanksgiving. >> yeah. >> your concern there about the time line is when we could see the spread of that come to fruition. >> yeah, i'm really concerned. i know many, many people personally who are not abiding by the guidelines, which suggest household members only, and a lot of people think, oh, i'm just going to make an exception. my family, i know such and such person, they can't possibly be carrying this virus, and i think what people are saying is we're

going to have many, many, many events that celebrate thanksgiving like we all love to do, but at the end of the day, we could end up with a lot of funerals in a few weeks from now, and i think that's a really unfortunate reality that we're going to have to cope with. i don't think the message got across about let's keep these thanksgiving dinners small this year. we did a big thanksgiving party, but virtually we had 42 people, relatives and friends who joined us by zoom for an hour after the meal, and it was a lot of fun. i thought at least for this year it's a good idea to stay away from large groups, even at family events. >> you get that emotional fulfillment that you need, but it is -- still, it appears to not be landing as you said. still 90% of people are expected to travel just 10% off of what it was in 2019, which is hard to think about during a pandemic. the cause of that or i guess the added effect of that next is the added burden on health care workers and what that means. what is your biggest concern for

that? is it the lack of ppe? is it the lack of beds? is it the lack of health care workers themselves? >> yeah, so there's a couple of things at work here. this is an incredible situation, and i'm reminded of what happened in new york in march and april when the hospitals were absolutely overwhelmed. we had very high fatality rates here and so on. this is happening now in the midwest in a number of states and the problem is lack of beds, and secondly or maybe firstly would be the fact that the health care workers are overwhelmed. they are exhausted, and there's no cavalry coming here. we don't know where other health care workers are going to come from from. they're bringing people out of retirement. nurses have taken a huge hit in fatalities and hospitalizations during the pandemic, and we're calling nurses out of retirement. that means that they're older, they're at risk, greater risk, and i just think we're in terrible straights, which is why

all of us individually as citizens really, really need to be careful for our own sakes but also for the sake of our overworked and exhausted health care professionals who are doing incredible heroic work caring for people with covid-19, cori. >> end on some good news, doctor, you say that we might be able to return to normal in 2021. how does that happen? >> yeah, so here's the point. if we do what we need to do, which is masks, wearing masks, hand sanitizing, physical distancing and so on, and at the same time sometime in the middle of next year we get wide distribution of the vaccine, we could have a very, very much different thanksgiving celebration in 2021, like next year's celebration could be almost normal, and we just have to do our part right now, cori. >> yeah, we have to buckle down right now. dr. irwin redlener for us, thank you, offering a little bit of hope on this thanksgiving. we appreciate it. many families choosing not

to get together this thanksgiving because of those surging infections taking the warnings from health experts. i will talk to one of those health experts on loneliness and about how you can have some real connections virtually during this holiday celebration. ♪ when disaster strikes to one, we all get together and support each other. that's the nature of humanity. ♪ it has encouraged other people to take the time for each other. ♪ ♪

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between the steelers and the ravens now off the table due to covid-19. this is coming after the ravens announced that seven people on that staff and players have tested positive as a result of the virus, and the nfl has come out and said that the game is now being postponed until sunday out of, quote, an abundance of caution. as you can imagine, frustration on both sides here, but the teams understanding they do have to stick to the rules. we know that several steelers' players have been outspoken in the fact that they felt like they did their part and now they're not getting to take part in this big thanksgiving matchup. the nfl in turn has made it clear that these covid-19 protocols are to be absolutely taken seriously. in fact, they've revamped some of them within the past several weeks to include more stringent measures. this applies to not just players but also team personnel. we know that as of right now, they've announced players must wear masks on the sidelines, if not entering the game or wearing a helmet, and that's following another mask mandate that requires staff and employers to

wear them at all times in team facilities. team meetings must now be held virtually or in a large indoor space that is league approved. all the meals still being made grab and go to avoid any contact in cafeterias and this is basically making it clear that the nfl, trying to keep their season impact. we know it's been a bit of a moving target as far as the schedule goes, so as it stands right now, following i guess you could call it an internal investigation on behalf of the ravens, they found that a strength and conditioning coach now faces punishment internally because they found that he was not wearing a mask routinely. he was not consistently reporting his symptoms, and in turn, they think that may have led to this rash of covid-19 infections. and the team is hoping that by being proactive on that front it could potentially lighten any fine or punishment from the nfl as they now face the fact that they just lost one of their biggest thanksgiving day games.

>> and you think about the nfl and how expansive their network is versus the nba's bubble. it's just not as simple. it is difficult. people have to be so much more vigilant in that sense. morgan chesky for us in arlington, texas. thank you. the holidays are always difficult when we can't be with loved ones and with less than two months left in 2020, this thanksgiving is certainly no exception to that. zoom is dropping its 40 minute limit for free users this holiday so you won't get cut off during those virtual family gatherings, and that is really great news, but let's be real. it is not the same thing to see your loved ones virtually versus being able to see them in person so we've got some tips to help you get through today. it is easier said than done. try your best to reframe your expectations. count your blessings, do something indulgent, and look ahead. i want to bring in the man who gave us those tips, corey floyd, he is a professor for communication and psychology at the university of arizona. from one corey to another, how

do we actually put them into practice and make it happen. let it not be like a new year's resolution that goes by the wayside. >> that's right, cori. happy thanksgiving to you. you know, the holidays are a time when many of us feel overburdened a little bit by expectations. we think the day needs to be perfect and let's face it, this thanksgiving is not going to be normal for many families, so one tip is to really reframe the way that you think about today and let go of some of the i have tos and i musts and i shoulds that so often weigh us down. free yourselves from those to take a little bit of the pressure off the day, and that will allow us to enjoy the day a little bit more. when people are feeling lonely and so many families are going to have that empty chair at the table today, counting your blessings is another good thing to do to take some of the pressure off and to just make ourselves feel better, spend some time as you're thinking about those you're missing and

loving counting your blessings and thinking about what's going well in your life, what do you have gratitude for on this thanksgiving day, and if the opportunity allows, it's useful to help other people. many families have a ritual of working at a food kitchen or something like that on a holiday such as today. i also like the idea of just doing something indulgent, something that feels a little bit extra that you might not do on a normal day. that could be curling up with a good book or rewatching a favorite movie. some people love a nice bubble bath or a really favorite dessert. that certainly can include some time on zoom and i know we've all had perhaps way too much of that lately, but zooming with family today, anything that just makes the day feel special can sort of distract our attention from the fact that we're not around our loved ones. and then finally, i think it's

really worth acknowledging that even though year's holiday is not going to be normal, that doesn't mean that it won't ever be normal again, so one of my favorite tips is just to spend some time with those you're talking to either in person or over zoom thinking about and planning ahead for next year. >> definitely. >> what might we do next year. so we have something to look forward to so we can look forward and ahead rather than being focused only on what we're missing today. >> and i think they call that for our third point there, do something indulgent, i think they call that treat yourself. >> indeed, yes. >> kory floyd, thank you so much, k ory, happy thanksgiving to you. i really appreciate the backdrop. we need a little bit of that sunshine. the weather is supposed to be really nice for the holiday. get outside, maybe get in nature as well. if you're feeling lonely or if you're feeling upset or you just need some extra help this holiday, please text home to

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welcome back. as millions get ready to enjoy their thanksgiving feast today, millions of others are not so fortunate. an estimated 50 million people will be food insecure this year. and that includes 17 million kids. one in four. all across this country this week we have been seeing scenes like these playing out, people waiting in lines for hours for the next meal, but still grateful by the generosity of fellow americans for donation of food and money. can you imagine still remaining grateful among all of this? and to close out this hour, here are americans in their own words who despite this pandemic are still finding plenties of reasoreason s to be grateful not only for what they have, but for what they can give. >> i'm o richlt rion jean, in f grade, from ft. worth, texas. all the things i have made me stronger as a person. in a way, a very strange way, the coronavirus has kind of made

us better and more prepared for what is happening, what is going to happen next. >> my name is ben hertle, a u.p.s. driver. there is always beautiful things in the world, don't give in to darkness or fear. there is beauty everywhere. >> my name is eric hale. i remain grateful and hopeful, every tombime i look in the eyef the students i serve, i know they need me now more than ever it is my duty and obligation to give them five star service regardless of the pandemic. >> i'm dr. dhaval desai. time and time again i'm reminded i'm not doing this alone, i'm doing this with others that have the same mission as me and that really makes me feel the most thankful for what i do on a daily basis. >> it is hard to stay positive about the things that you still do have. but sometimes that's what you need to do to stay happy and stay focused and thankful. >> he gets my vote for president

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good morning, happy thanksgiving. i'm chris jansing in new york. today, the president and president-elect are in the headlines, but for very different reasons. president-elect biden breaking with decades of tradition and hosting a much smaller than usual group of family members for thanksgiving in delaware. preaching patience and safety

during the holidays as the coronavirus rages across the country. >> there is real hope. tangible hope. so hang on. don't let yourself surrender to the fatigue, which i understand it is real fatigue. i know we can and we will beat this virus. >> well, biden delivered a very presidential message. president trump called into a gettysburg hotel gathering of loyalists for a ten-minute rant on more unfounded election accusations. and then taking a break from his election obsession to pardon michael flynn and retweeting a suggestion he could potentially pardon himself to avoid any future federal prosecution. and we have breaking news here in new york. the supreme court ruling that governor andrew cuomo cannot enforce new occupancy limits on religious institutions as covid-19 cases rise in the