welcome, everybody. thanks for joining us. one day after families gathered for thanksgiving and an increased number of travelers went to the airports. there's concern about the staggering rate of coronavirus in the country. the cases in america may be an undercount. it may be eight times higher with many people experiencing no symptoms. this is happening as states, local governments and organizations like the ncaa are trying to stop the spread of co-vid. we are in los angeles at lax airport and dallas texas. aaron, i'm going to start with you on this one. let's talk about the new rules at lax, the new testing as well.

what has been implement sod far there? >> reporter: that's right. they're introducing rapid testing next week here at lax. anyone who wants to take the test will be allowed access to it with results in one or two hours. just lack last week they implemented an interim testing site that gives results in one or two days for anyone traveling to location that requires the negative covid-19 test. they're also tightening restrictions, asking people who travel here to lax to go online to acknowledge the recommendation put in place by the state of california that anyone who travels to lax quarantine for some 14 days. still, we're seeing an increase in the number of passengers arriving. a marked uptick, especially when you compare to the pandemic. the height of the holiday season was last friday.

some 44,000 people traveled here through lax airport. still alarming to many officials. travelers tell me they're traveling for a variety of reasons. i spoke to one college student who said he wanted to come home to see his family. i spoke to a couple who told me they weren't concerned by covid-19. they travel regularly and don't see a problem with it. i spoke to another individual who said he wasn't concerned because he'd already had covid-19. take a listen. >> i had co-vid. i'm over that. i'm past my 14 days after testing positive. >> how long ago did you test positive? >> two weeks ago. our family of four got co-vid. >> reporter: now, it was

alarming to hear someone say they'd only tested positive with covid-19 two weeks ago, and yet, choose to travel to see friends, especially given the warnings from authorities to not travel if it's nonessential. but i was speaking to health experts and he was telling me that individual might be the safest person to travel. studies show the virus stops transmitting after a 10 -day period, so if he had tested positive while he was symptomatic, he should be okay, but it really just underscores that when you're traveling on a train or plane or anywhere, you really do not know the status of the person next to you. >> you really don't. such a good point. erin, thank you. thank you for joining us on this. i want to bring in morgan. let's talk sports while i have you for a moment here. football. there were so many high profile football players that tested positive so far. lamar jackson the latest to test positive for high profile athletes.

let's talk ncaa and student athletes getting back to work and playing. how are they planning on keeping those folks safe? >> reporter: that is a big question that the ncaa is trying to figure out as the season progresses. they have safeguards in place. all eyes are in connecticut right now on this tournament that's been dubbed bubbleville. it features 40 teams, men and women from all over the country, that have essentially converged on this property where each team gets their own dedicated floor. they're tested as soon as they arrive. they're tested with those nasal swabs before they play every game, and right now it's been going on relatively smoothly, but prior to that event even kicking off, some high profile teams had to leave because of some positive co-vid tests. one of the highest profile was the yuconn women's basketball

team. they went into a holding pattern until it was deemed clear to play. when you speak to teams and coaches involved in the tournament, i spoke to leonard hamilton, the head coach of florida state, one of the top teams in the country. i asked him how he puts this in perspective for his own players with such a fluid situation. take a listen. >> well, the thing of it is, you can't worry about that which you can't control. be careful and consistent. that's really the only thing you can do and hope there's enough for us to stay safe and be true to each other. i hope you have a good season, but i'm more concerned about let's get through the season healthy. >> reporter: florida state would like to be one of the teams at the end of the season that plays in the 2021 march madness tournament. the ncaa pledged to make sure that still exists. it's going to look a lot different. instead of having 13 cities hold preliminary games they're

converging on one location similar to the nba in the playoffs. right now that city that's a front runner is indianapolis. >> all right. morgan, thank you. good to talk to you this afternoon. thank you for joining us. as the race to get an effective vaccine heat heaths up, the astrazeneca has come under scrutiny after they acknowledged an error in testing process. some volunteers only got a half a dose, raising a question about the efficacy. i want to bring in doctor faust. thank you for joining us. before i get to the vaccine news, i want you to weigh in on something we heard from erin who interviewed a man who had chosen to travel during this holiday season and had tested positive for co-vid just 14 days ago. he said both he and his family had all tested positive, and yet, he was still traveling today. was it safe for him to go ahead

and travel? >> if what he said is true, it's safe. it looks like the most contagious part is the first ten days and the trouble is people other than the gentleman interviewed is the peak of contagion seems to be before symptoms so people don't know it. those who are symptom free can spread it early in their disease. so the issue is a little bit less the gentleman interviewed, and everyone else who doesn't know they have it. the ripple effect of thursday coming into tuesday is what we're worried about. >> hence the reason why so many people are concerned. you may be asymptomatic and spent time with your family and not known it and spread it. let's talk about the astrazeneca controversy surrounding their

vaccine. what happened here and how concerned are you by the latest vaccine? >> overall, i am pleased with the overall vaccine situation. the fact that we have three vaccines with favorable data should change the risk calculation of everyone. it's no longer a matter of time as to when you get the virus and whether you do well or don't. now we can say with a lot of confidence it's likely in 2021 there will be availability of an effective vaccine that will save lives, changes the calculation. let's hold on and get there. the questions about the trial are important. and the scrutiny i think is warranted. what happened was an accident in terms of the concentration of the first dose where some of the digits -- the strange thing is those people did better. it's a head scratching finding that shows how messy science can be, and sometimes when mistakes are made, sometimes there's an upshot. everyone wants to know the trials are rigorous with a lot of oversight and in an organized

fashion. this undermines that. what i think is positive is we have multiple products that are all looking about the same. really, really effective. very safe. and yeah, before we want to roll out a vaccine like that, we'd like to know that all the sort of problems have been resolved in terms of the protocol, but overall, i just -- i have to say the risk calculation changes now that we know a vaccine is coming so we need to get there together. we've come so far. let's get across the finish line. >> so how important is it for this to be peer reviewed? at what point do the vaccines get to be peer reviewed? i know they haven't so far. >> they have been in the phase one trials. the phase one trials came out for all of these. we see in the new england journal of medicine, things like does the vaccine spark immune response? yes. what were the side effects? we saw in the small numbers this came out in peer review. it was favorable.

everything i saw was encouraging. they're going to share as much data as they can with the fda and regulatory agencies. i think that at point we'll get a better look. do we expect to see a published full paper in a major journal before the fda makes a determination on emergency use? i don't think so. but that said, i think as much data as out there should be made public so experts in every area whether it's distribution or efficacy or trial design can chime in. at the end of the day, this fda has been undermined by its own sort of waxing and waning credibility, i think the review is important to say we can look the patients in the eye and say i took this vaccine, you can do. we have to get there, so the more data the better. >> thank you. good to see you. all right. exit ramp. president trump makes his first outright commitment to leave

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welcome back. breaking in the last hour, an appeals court in pennsylvania dismissed the latest case argued by rudy giuliani.

calling an election unfair does not make it so. charges require specific allegations and proof. we have neither here, the vjudg. it poses the question when will the trump administration accept reality. the white house on thursday, he had this to say in a tense exchange. >> reporter: if the electoral college does elect joe biden, are you not going to leave this building? >> certainly i will. and you know that. >> reporter: i want to bring in our team of reporters. carol lee is covering the white house. ali is camped out biden transition team and joining us is ruth mark us. thank you for joining us on this. carol, i'm going to start with you on this one. talk to me first about the white house's reaction to this latest ruling from the appeals court. >> reporter: we haven't gotten any specific reaction from the white house. you can see where the president has been laying the ground work,

saying these are judges that are not look agent the case. that's what he said yesterday when he said all we need is a judge to look at what we're putting forward here, and then we'll -- things will move in the direction they want them to. look, the president is in a defiant mood. you saw him say he was going to leave the white house if the electoral college solidifies this victory for joe biden. and yet, at the same time, he's trying to muddy the waters. he tweeted today already saying the only way joe biden can enter the white house is if he proves his 80 million votes he received were legal. that's just a tweet. it doesn't mean anything. it's just the president writing something down on his twitter feed. it's not going to have any bearing on what happens on january 20th. but it gives you a sense of where the president's head is at right now. so while he's saying he will leave the white house, he's also saying he's not going to concede, and he's digging in. at the same time, getting yet another pretty significant setback in the state of pennsylvania. that was the case that his

personal lawyer rudy giuliani had argued in the state of pennsylvania, and so the president while vowing to continue to fight on, at the same time seems to be grappling with some of the realities that are coming to fruition, and that what he's going to be dealing with in the coming weeks. he was asked whether or not he would attend joe biden's inaugurati inauguration. that's tradition. he said he knows the answer to that but he's not going to tell us right now. >> he knows how to tease something. how unprecedented is it to get a statement like this from a judge? this is the second time we've heard a state like this from a pennsylvania judge regarding the lawsuit. i want to read it again. he says this. calling an election unfair does not make it so. charges require specific allegations and then proof. we have neither here.

>> it is both jarring and unsurprising. it's unsurprising because it's been clear on the face of the arguments and the breach and evidence in quotes there that's been submitted that the president's lawyer and the president have been screaming fraud and screaming voter abuse and have had nothing to show for it. and that is not court -- throw those things out whether it's republican appointed judges or democratic appointed judges. judges are judges. they need evidence and they're not going to rule for the president without evidence, and so i think the maybe is now maybe 1 in 36 or 1 in 37 in the lawsuits. he can keep on going, but he is going to on the basis of the nonevidence he has, he's going to keep on losing. he's going to keep on embarrassing himself, and his lawyers are really at risk of engaging in across professional misconduct at this point.

they have legal ethics rules that prevent them or should prevent them from bringing cases where they know there is no basis in fact or in law to make the arguments. >> so, you know, juxtaposed wa we're talking about now to the biden camp, i think we've gotten so used to such a reactionary administration, and we're not getting any of that from the biden team. in fact, all of this is happening over the last 24 hours. everything the president said, these rulings coming through, this assassination of a top iranian nuclear scientist, and yet, we're hearing nothing from the biden camp who is continuing to chuck along and talk about his appointments ahead. >> that's right. and it's pretty much by design. even just consider they haven't reacted to the president's pardon of michael flynn yet, and really you saw this during the campaign that they didn't want to get sucked into whatever the trump created news cycle of the day was. the difference is they've won

and they're trying to set their own tone for what this administration is going to look like. and the picture that they're painting at this early point right now is that it's going to be an administration that has a lot more of an even keel to it than we've been used to over the course of the last four years. it's not going to be, as you said, reactionary to every turn in the news cycle. though i would say with the latest court ruling the thing the biden campaign has been consistent with is reacting to legal rulings such as this one, because they like the chance to highlight the fact that they've been saying all along that these trump claims brought in court have been meritless and unstab stanchuated. this may be an instance where they would react based on past times they have given reaction. but really, the overarcing tone here of this transition is one where biden is trying to get a presidential tone. we're probably not going to have anymore news cycles over the next four years when we debate when the president is

presidential or not. even look at biden on thanksgiving. the address that he gave the day before and then the twitter video they put out the same day, he spoke to trying to unify the country and also levelled with the american people about the pandemic realities that we're all facing right now. i imagine as we head into next week, we're going to see an up tick a little bit in the news cycle because we expect we're going to get another slate of cabinet picks from the biden team. these are going to be focussed on things related to the economy. we already know from our sources that janet yellen is the person that biden is likely to announce as the next treasury secretary of the united states. he said previously he's already made his choice, though not formally announced it but the person is someone acceptable to all parts of the democratic party, and if you looked last week as we reported that it was going to be yellen, you actually see that what he said is bearing out. especially when you look at the way that markets reacted all the way over to the other side of this where elizabeth warren was saying that janet yellen was a

choice she could back for the treasury department. >> carol, just quickly to you. any word from the white house on this assassination of a top nuclear scientist in iran? >> reporter: no. they're declining comment at this time. the president has retweeted raising eyebrows, some reports about this alleged assassination including one that called this a significant blow to iran. again, i asked about that. the national security counsel is not adding to the president's retweet at this time. >> all right. i know that if this develops, you'll bring it to us. thank you all. really appreciate it. good seeing you on this friday afternoon. as i was talking about, one of iran's top nuclear scientists was killed in what's being called an as is nation. more on what we know this hour and what it means for u.s. foreign policy in the biden administration. reign policy in administration

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nuclear program has been assassina assassinated. we are joined from iran. good to see you this afternoon. thank you for joining us. bring us up to date on what you know so far. >> reporter: what we know is that the scientist who is the father of iran's nuclear program, he led all of iran's research and development, not only on the nuclear program but on the missile program on iran's defenses was assassinated early this afternoon according to iranian media, he was on his way back from the north of the country on a weekend break with his family. they were driving from a place about an hour east of iran when a pickup truck pulled up in front of them. it suddenly exploded forcing him out of his car and to stop behind the pickup. at least five gunmen opened fire on him, ambushing the car. his security detail and members of his family, injured.

he was then air lifted to hospital from the site of the hit. and state media said he then died of his injuries in hospital. now, iranian officials now are up in arms about this. iran's foreign minister is saying this bares all the hallmarks of an operation, officials saying they are looking for revenge for this, and groups of hardline people, ordinary folks, have gathered outside the national security building in iran. a couple of hundred people. they're calling for revenge. they're saying if the authorities don't take revenge for the scientist's killing, it will only embolden the enemy. tensions are very high. although iran is talking about revenge, they usually wait these things out to see when is the appropriate time to do this. it could take weeks, months, even years, but they don't usually forget these things.

remember, they hit u.s. assets in iraq after the killing of general soleimani. you can compare them. general soleimani realized iran's ambitions outside iran, and this scientist realized iran's nuclear ambitions. he was key to iran's nuclear program, and he had the trust of very, very senior officials in this country which is hard to get. >> it's like deja vu from this time last year when soleimani died. i want to couch the next question by saying nbc has no confirmation that israel is responsible for the assassination, despite state run tv saying it. with that in mind, ken, how likely is it that you think the

israeli intelligence agency would share any plans they have or the israeli government would share any plans they had with the u.s. government or cia ahead of an operation like this one? >> reporter: when i asked some of my national sources about this today and whether there could have been a u.s. hand in this, they said historically we don't have the assets in the ground in iran to pull something like this off, but we can't rule out targeting on cig nasignalin. we never got to the bottom of assassinations ten years ago. from the israeli point of view, this sets back the nuclear program. they believe he-- iran is three months away from breakouts, the capacity to assemble such a

weapon. this dramatically escalates the situation almost demands a response from iran. as you said, we began the year with a humiliating targeted killing ordered by donald trump of their top general, almost a folk hero in the country, and ending the year with a targeted killing of their top nuclear snooiss. my sources say how can iran not respond in a spectacular fashion. that's going to complicate the biden administration's desire to get back in the iran nuclear deal. iran feels like they should be compensated for hardships under the trump administration. the worry is what can happen the last month in the trump presidency. trump can order a military strike on iran to do any number of things that could destabilize the position, and if iran retaliates, we have a really

sort of unfortunate stew of events here. >> i mean, you think about the road ahead for the biden team and the pandemic, top of mind. then the foreign policy complications, this being one of them is also huge and the ramificatio ramifications. my friends, thank you. good to see you this afternoon. >> joining me now is a congressman. i imagine you were listening to the conversation. i'd like to weigh in on the report of the assassination out of iran, a top nuclear scientists. iranians blaming the israelis for it. nbc not having confirmation of that, but you anticipate to be briefed on this later this week or next week? >> i think we will be briefed. i'll be going back to washington on monday. i expect chairman schiff will ask the relevant authorities to

brief us on what's occurred. >> is this something you feel -- from your perspective. is this something you feel as if u.s. intelligence agencies would, in fact, be briefed on ahead of an operation pulled off in iran, possibly by israeli authorities or the israeli government? >> it depends. i can't comment on the specific issue, because i haven't been briefed on it yet. but suffice it to say the united states and its allies routinely discuss matters, and i can't comment on this specific situation yet. >> all right. we know you're going to stay on top of that for us. if we have anymore information on that that you can share, we'd appreciate it. i want to talk about the reporting it was shared in the last hour.

whether or not the president should be receiving intelligence after he is no longer the president, president trump, that is. and obviously there's a worry when you think back to the meetings he had in the oval office with loav lavrov when we found out he was sharing intelligence. do you think he should received intelligence briefings after he leaves the white house? >> you're correct that there have been concerns about the president's handling of intelligence in the past. i think that the past practice of presidents with regard to former presidents is to give them intelligence briefings, especially with regard to their personal protection and family's protection. and also to give them certain briefings, especially when they are seeking their former president's advice. i don't think that joe biden will necessarily treat donald trump or the former president any differently. however, he might take added

precautions where there might be sensitive materials and he has a concern about them being shared. but i think in this particular case, to the extent that donald trump is able to afford help to joe biden when he's president, i think president biden will probably take advantage of that. >> do you feel as if the president is compromised considering he owes up to $400 million right now? >> i am concerned about that. one of the things that robert mueller said extensively was that he never was able to fully probe the counterintelligence issues and problems that arose from the president's ties with russia or his associate's ties with russia, and we never got to the bottom of that, and because of that, we have to take extra precaution and be very alert to how those particular meetings

and ties and financial arrangements that the president and his family and businesses have with russia could influence future issues. we are concerned about that. >> let's talk quickly about the pardoning of michael flynn. who else do you expect to be on the timeline of folks the president is angling to pardon? do you think himself, he himself could be someone the president could look to pardon? >> unfortunately, anything is possible. and one of the reasons i introduced the presidential pardon transparency act is because of what you said. we need to know who our people that are under consideration for pardons, and if the president pardoned himself, theoretically, we may not even know that. so that is why we need more scrutiny of this pardon process, especially after the election. i think the president's pardon

of michael flynn was absolutely unacceptable. i've heard of pardoning turkeys, but that was ridiculous, and we cannot have a situation where the president is pardoning people who show no remorse, never served any time, and a lot of cases, he might be actually considering pardoning people to influence the prosecution of himself and his own family for certain matters. that's very dangerous. >> all right. congressman, thank you for joining us on this friday afternoon. appreciate it. up next, the place where coronavirus restrictions are being eased. what it could mean for the global fight against this virus. you're watching msnbc. msnbc. - [announcer] welcome to intelligent indoor grilling with the ninja foodi smart xl grill. just pick your protein, select your doneness, and let the grill monitor your food. it also turns into an air fryer. bring outdoor grilling flavors indoors with the grill that grills for you.

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co-vid cases are dropping across many parts of the europe due to weeks' long lockdowns to

stop the spread. businesses that were once thriving are feeling the effects of lost profits. lockdowns are lifting on time for the holidays. matt bradley has more from paris. >> reporter: here in france some lockdown relief from tomorrow as small shops and churches can reopen, but restaurants, cafes and bars will have to stay closed until january 20th. in germany tough restrictions until december 20th in a bid to allow for a family christmas. traditional christmas markets are going virtual this year. in spain locals told to stay vigilant as the government is considering scaling down christmas parties to six people. britain's economy is facing a contraction. next week shops and gyms and some restaurants can open in a tiered system as co-vid in your opinions are coming down. boris johnson allowing limited family gatherings during christmas but warning of a hard winter ahead.

>> if we ease off now, we risk losing control of the virus all over again. >> reporter: in france, it's beginning to look like christmas, but it won't be a normal noel. macron saying families will be able to celebrate together, but i appeal to your sense of responsibility, he said. it will definitely not be a christmas like any other. for many businesses like this canadian shoe designer, the christmas cheer came a few weeks too late. you had to close your business. how did that feel? >> it feels like being hit by a tsunami. >> reporter: she is determined to keep selling shoes online. >> just put so much blood sweat and tears into it. i'm not willing to be washed out by a crisis. >> reporter: but the crisis isn't over. the health system is still strained. >> the icu are overwhelmed everywhere in paris. >> reporter: doctors worry that without a stronger strategy, the new year could bring a new

lockdown. >> if you don't keep a society to testing, tracing, then you will have to face a third wave. >> reporter: there's a risk christmas hope could turn into a new year's hangover. you know, this lifting of the lockdown in france is not set in stone. if the french public doesn't meet certain road marks, basically if they don't have less than 5,000 new cases a day and fewer than 2500 people in icu units, they're going to go right back into the lockdown. but here's the thing. this vaccine which france is hoping to start distributing by the end of the year, nearly 50% of french people say they won't accept this voluntary vaccine, because they don't trust it. so that might not be the end all be all that a lot of people around the world are expecting it to be. >> what a juxtaposition there with so many cases in paris and across europe, but behind you

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oo-la la! welcome back, store that's have been hit hard by sales now need new strategies for black friday. attract customers everywhere. for many of you used to shopping in person, this black friday will look a lot different. blaine is in dunwoody, florida. >> it does look impt than it has in years past. some of the trappings that we have come to expect are still here. so at this macy's the doors open at 5:00 am. many going in before sunrise.

didn't see much of that this year. instead experts expect that much of the shops will be done online. >> this morning the new face of black friday with covid cases on the rise nationwide instead of massive crowds, deals spanning for a month or more. >> versus everybody, 200 people jamming through a vestibule at one time. there is no sense of urgency at this point to show up it is a limited amount of time to get a black friday or a promotional discount. >> walmart and macy's are among the retailers rolling them out

in november. >> we saw retailers adapt quickly to the new environment. strict covid precautions, cleaning with increased frequency, and in most stores masks is a must. >> everybody wears their masks, and everyone keeps their distance. >> but there are warnings across packed malls. crowded shopping is a higher risk activity. already online shoppers have spent more than $60 billion this month. sales are expected to top $10 billion on black friday alone. up 30% from last year. >> not worth it when you can shop online and there are so many other options. >> many shoppers cannot escape the allure of the in-store experience. >> i still like to touch and feel what i'm getting and see it up close. >> i love to talk to people. i would definitely rather go and experience the thrill of shopping instead of clicking a

button on the mouse. >> so we gave you a few record setting numbers there. let me hit you with some more. black friday and cyber monday are expected to set records for the highest number of sales. >> blayne, talk to me about the shopping standards here. what are they doing to keep shoppers safe today? >> if you want to go in and shop but you may not want to be around so many crowds, some stores are allowing people to mabt appointments. you can do it through an app and you get a notification on your phone knowing when it is time to come in and shop. if you don't want to go in at all you can buy on your computer, buy online, or buy

curbside. that is up about 140% this year over last year. >> okay, thank you. good to see you this afternoon. katy tur picks up our coverage after a quick break. first if you're over 2020 and want to be done with this entire year all together, you're not alone. we have a look at why so many people are getting a jump on their holiday decorating. >> in our "year of the pandemic" this has become a welcome distraction. for most families who celebrate christmas, there is an unofficial time table that says no christmas trees until today, the day after thanksgiving, but that is just another rule that does not apply in 2020. >> i, myself, have been wanting christmas since june. my neighbors had lights up since before halloween. it's a year that hit a lot of us

hard. >> the constintein. >> here she is. >> why do i get the idea that this should go into a time capsule to be opened 50 years from now. >> i think a lot of things from this year needs a time capsule, but the elf in the quarantine box, for sure. >> social media is a sea of red, white, and green. if you're yet to get a freshly cut tree. fair warning the rush began a week ago. >> i'm not sure that any of us could have predicted it would be this busy. i mean this last weekend was almost like a record weekend for all of us. >> at the beehive shot in centerville, pennsylvania. the christmas questions have

began. >> the light show in new york is back. >> with a new rule, social distancing. >> 2020 has been nothing but disease and disappointment. the things that people look forward to are not happening. >> we need this now? >> everybody needs something they can be happy about. >> what is now spreading across america is now something we want to see spread, holiday spirit. >> merry christmas and happy holidays! holidays less oral steroids. taking my treatment at home. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your doctor about nucala at home. find your nunormal with nucala.

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good afternoon, i'm katy tur. it is 11:00 out west, 2:00 p.m. on the east. not a slow news day on this black friday. despite a worsening pandemic, donald trump's focus remains on the election that he lost. mr. trump took questions on thursday for the first time since election day. he spent most of that time lying about election fraud. he insisted it would be hard to concede because of it. he said he would leave office if the electoral college voted for joe biden which they're expected to do. >> if they do elect joe biden, are you not going to leave this building. >> certainly i will. certainly i will. you know that. i think there will be a lot of things happening between now and the 20t