good afternoon, i'm katy tur. it is 11:00 out west, 2:00 p.m. on the east. not a slow news day on this black friday. despite a worsening pandemic, donald trump's focus remains on the election that he lost. mr. trump took questions on thursday for the first time since election day. he spent most of that time lying about election fraud. he insisted it would be hard to concede because of it. he said he would leave office if the electoral college voted for joe biden which they're expected to do. >> if they do elect joe biden, are you not going to leave this building. >> certainly i will. certainly i will. you know that. i think there will be a lot of things happening between now and the 20th of january. a lot of things.

>> meanwhile coronavirus cases in the u.s. are closing in on 13 million. the cdc now believes the real number could be much higher. a new report from the agency reveals the country could miss eight covid cases for every single case that is recorded. the u.s. reported nearly 125,000 new infections just yesterday alone. that means by the cdc estimation the actual number could be closer to one million cases. as leading health experts warn that travel over the thanksgiving holiday time could make the current surge worse in the weeks to come, they believe that thanksgiving could prove to be a super spreader event of it's own. more breaking news this afternoon out of iran. that country's top nuclear scientist is dead in an apparent assassination. this story could have serious

implications across the groub. we're going to get the latest from tehran in just a few minutes. let us begin with the pandemic and the growing concern that the thanksgiving holiday will worsen the surge that we are already experiencing across the country. and erin mclaughlin. we were the epicenter in new york in the spring, cases are starting to tick upward here. what are you hearing and seeing. >> they are coming up with a winter plan as they expect a rise in the number of cases in the coming weeks. they fear there could be a rise in cases. behind me is a testing center, one of many no doubt that you have seen throughout manhattan. the line here is considerably

less than it was a few days ago, but a steady stream of people today still trying to get tested. we spoke with one man just a short time ago about why he decided to get tested today. >> i think it is especially important after thanksgiving to get tested. you're around people you may not have seen in over a year. you don't know what you were surrounding yourself with in that time. it is still a risk to be with groups of people. >> many public o fishing warn that just because you a clear test doesn't mean you're all clear. i will say a couple days ago i was in the per m upper midwest, dakota, they're having a hard

time getting results. so the concern in some parts of the country are what will happen in the coming weeks if we see that increase in cases. new york city officials monitoring hospitalizations as well. >> everything that we're seeing is frustrating. the lines that we're seeing, the results, the delay in the results, it is just all very frustrating this far into the pandem pandemic. what are they telling you about what they did over the thanksgiving holiday? do they feel safe? >> many of the travelers that have talked to here say they're travels despite the advice from officials here to cut back on all nonessential travel. here in l.a. county mayor eric

garcia saying he doesn't want people traveling across town let alone to the airport. that is because of the situation here in california keeps going from bad to worse. on wednesday here in l.a. county alone more than 4,000 coronavirus cases, a positivity rate of 7%, and if things continue on this trajectory, l.a. officials say they could be out of hospital beds by december. yet we're seeing a uptick in travel here at l.a.x. at it's peak. they saw 44,000 people pass through this aircraft. it pairs in comparison, but people here say they're not concerned about this. some are not, take a listen.

>> the travel home, i wear a mask with my families. we ate outdoors, i kept my distance. >> i had covid, i'm over that, i'm past my 14 days after testing positive. now that passenger told me that he tested positive along with the rest of his family just 14 days ago and yet still traveling. he says he may have been the safest person on the plane as long as you stop shedding the virus ten days from being symptomatic. it goes to illustrate that you really when you're traveling for the holidays you don't know the covid-19 status of the person sitting next to you.

a lot of people were traveling, other people were getting together for the holiday. with coronavirus cases on the rise in california, most students are learning virtually. state officials are not just concerned with protecting studen students. that is because immunizations and the rates have plummeted 40% during the pandemic. officials are warning parents that their children must have the routine vaccinations before they can go back to school. with me now is the mayor of oakland, california. madame mayor, thank you for being here. let's talk about the people are

stepping into urgent care, hospitals, and pediatricians. how do you enforce this week they have the kids come back. >> casy, katy, covid worsened a the rasht and economic december parties of well-being and that including education and the health of our children. i want to recognize that our schools have been the unsung heros in this pandemic. our school system has served more than seven million males to our families who are sheltering in home. and i know that the issues of immunizations and vaccinations. we're trying to make it easy for

them to get them in nontraditional setting. our biggest voting this year, where the oakland a's play baseball, we offered a free flu shot. it is co-lotion and particularly in the communities hardest hit by covid that we're going to be focusing on in partnership with our public schools. >> can you explain how you will do that for kids. is there a vaccination at the school where a kid could go get vaccinated before going to the classroom? how easy will it be? >> in oakland we're still trying to work out. it will probably be a hybrid hodle. our special needs and youngest students will be brought back first. she is calling on the state, and

i have to say they have done an amazing and heroic job in this pandemic. i with other mayors and my suspects are looking for resources. the cares act dollars must be spent by december 31st. but with the recent ballooning on the rate. the purple tier, the most at risk, we need more help and guidance from our highest health officials. and know that our schools often have worse cases and our county wide rates don't always tell the whole story of the families that we know have to be healthy before they can learn.

>> prop 15 would have given california schools billions of dollars. >> yeah, that was a heart black. prop 15 would have closed. i think an unintended corporate tax holoophole by the old prop , and it lost by a hair. cities like mine, in the state of california, we have to pass a balanced budget. and we're being hit with our revenues just like every business here is in the country. only the federal government the kids coming back into the

position. >> it is one that we hear a lot. they were saying no bailouts for blue states. they are thinking about the vaccine strategy. our in-person teachers are essential front-line workers. happy holiday to you. let's bring in an affiliate assistant professor and also an we saw a lot of people traveling. traveling to ma mayor. the worry about vaccinations. as we're well into this holiday season, well into the crisis of

this pandemic, the second material round of it, what is the highest on your radar right now? >> good morning, katy. i would say a few things. right now we're seeing 90,000 individuals hospitalized for covid-19. that is a peak for this pandemic. they're alreadyoverwhelmed. if you have travelled for the tfl holiday, stay put. stay masked. if you can get a test, get it then. as one of your reporters mentioned earlier, getting a test soon after you travelled twhan 72 hour window can result in a false negative test.

one of these guys, they get shields, get a three-ply mask if you can. when you get to your destination, assume you've been exposed and quarantine for seven days. try to get a test at that point. guard against uncertainty. assume you have been exposed. >> can i ask you about the mask you just held up nap is a surgical mask. you said this is what people should be wearing now. why is that surgical mask better? >> so, aresol scientists, my own institute, we have all looked at various types of masks. it seems that this three-ply mask or a hybrid cloth that has different types of fabrics layered next to each other, at least three different layers of

cloth, different high threat count cotton, or cotton next to polyester. they seem to be more effective than just one ply cloth mask or your neck ga triter. >> let me ask you about the vaccines. there has been a hiccup with the astraz astrazeneca vaccine. what do you make with what happened with them and does a pass a cloud over the other two vaccines that are still moving along? >> i want to be clear that they need to make all of their data publicly available. they're going to restart a global trial.

whatever vaccine they have, and it's go live date will be delayed until some point in 2021. it should not injury our confidence in pfizer, moderna, and all of the other promising vaccines on the horizon. they look like they have tested multiple different tress points but no serious adverse effects. they seem broadly effective. we should have all of the confidence in the world that once an independent advisory board signs off on this that it will be good for american arms, and we need our public leaders to lead by example and get publicly vaccinationccinatevacc. >> where does the public advisory board go to look at the results done on it. >> so the independent advisory board is vaccine experts across the country and the world.

they gain nothing politically or financially by looking at the data. you name it. and they're saying yes, this candidate looks effective. no it doesn't. and more importantly among the 44,000 individuals in the phase 3 trial, they'll see what were the adverse effects and were any of them in the two-month period for which they have data, are they concerned enough to pause any eventually approval. the public needs confidence in that. vaccine experts with nothing to gain, so i have a lot of confidence and i hope the public does, too. >> transparency is so important. that was rocked a little by what we heard out of astrazeneca. can donald trump be trusted with the country's secrets after he leaves office? next why some national security

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president-elect joe biden will receive his first daily intelligence briefing on monday. on that date trump will become a fo former president. it is traditional for him to to get the briefings. some are worried they can nnot trust him. i hope you're full of turkey. the reason that people are skittish about the president's handling of classified information dates back at the very earliest to what happened in the oval office after he fired james comey and revealed

some secrets to the russians. >> right, he revealed secrets to the russians. he tweeted photos of iran that were classified until he put them on twitter, and he continues to be so opaque about his personal finances that even in a post presidency no one really knows what other governments or banks in other countries he owes money to. the other dynamic is that if he announces himself as a candidate for the presidency in 2024 we know he will be working against the biden administration from the outside. it is conceivable he would be doing that if he was, you know, availed of america's top secrets, other leaders that are not sided with him and not as friendly with the biden administration. we're talking about a president continuing to get intelligence

reports that as president he did not pay attention to or read the physical briefs. but it is conceivable that he could become more interested in it out of office than he was while he was on the job. >> this reporting coming from ken delanian. are you hearing any rumblings about this on capitol hill? >> great to be with you number one. number two, i can't tell you how much people, republicans, democrats, just every elected official privately wants to be rid of the president. republicans on capitol hill have no patience for him any more. i imagine when we get back here in a couple days from the break that you're going to see the republican leadership in the senate suggest that the time for these games are over since the president just said multiple

times that there is a wide spread fraud that goes across state lines against him without any evidence. now listen, joe biden has a very aggressive legislative agenda. there is a lot of problems facing the country that people are going to want to do battle on over capitol hill instead of listening to the president and wondering whether or not he is the subject of some sort of fraud that he has no evidence for. i will say this, though. it takes resources to brief former presidents. it's not as if he gets an e-mail in his inbox. they dispatch someone to brief him. and it typically was because presidents were called upon to help their successors when it comes to big national security issues. i don't know that donald trump will be called upon by joe biden or interested in helping joe

biden. jake was just getting into some of the history of this. i was going to ask you, eli if is traditionally that a current president, when he needs advice from a former president, is there a world where he will be asking for physician that permission -- >> sure, nothing is really out of the question, it is just over flowing with irony. and we're talking about a scenario on which he is asking the intelligence community for it's information. you would have to just wonder

why he would be doing that. post-presidencies there has been a fraternity. they leave the office, they show up at state funerals, they join up after tragedies like hurricanes. they do psas to try to get people to donate. they really lean into the idea of being presidents for the whole country, and it is hard to see donald trump being part of that group. >> eli yesterday he answered questions for the very first time since the election, and he was cot battive as you would expect. what are we expecting from him for the next 54 days. >> i mean it remains to be seen. he said he will travel to georgia and will campaign there. but his schedule has been pretty

bare since the election was called and he continued to seem to want to draw out some sort of drama about whether or not he will attend the inauguration for joe biden. whether or not he will leave the office. these questions are answered. it's not up to him any more but he wants to be in the center of the stage and that's just not the case going forward. we're seeing that as joe biden is naming members of his cabinet, joe biden is already starting to occupy the country's attention. and president trump is already starting to fade away. >> eli, i can see you're embracing being the son of two academic scholars, incredible background. thank you for joining us. jake sherman, you'll have to work on yours, not as up to par as you normally have it. with the fish and grateful dead

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>> a high level scientist has been assassinated near tehran we have not confirmed any details rounding his test. give us what you know and what you're hearing out there in tehran. >> they started reporting on about noon local time today that the victories are the top nuclear scientists. father of the nuclear program and the missile program was

assassinated. they're reporting that a pickup truck was traveling down, a explosion went off, his sedan stops and five gunman jumped out. members of a family that are traveling with him. he was transported to a hospital. a reporter also coming out now that one of his security guards have been killed. the foreign minister said this bears all of the hallmarks of the administration. they said that they're going to

exert revenge for this, there is a para military group, they were calling for an immediate revenge of the attack. they say they will be enboldenned if they don't strike back. it was seriesly going to setting it back this is a it ending with a man instrumental in the nuclear program being assassinated at home. so this will raise a lot of

questions. >> not to mention a senior al qaeda leader. joining me now is brent mcgert. he is a personal envoy for countering i srsis under presid trump. different acronyms. thank you for joining us. as someone steeped in this area in iran and what happens, what immediately came to your mind? >> i think the report sums it up. i think these things tend to happen in shadows, you already have a president that reretweeted the news about it.

so the fact that it was so out in the open, i think it increases the risk for a fit for tat here. >> what is a likelihood that we would not know about this if, and don't have access to the intelligence, there is no officials, but what is the likelihood they didn't know about it. >> i think we would have known about it. there has been a cop ration, but the larger picture of that is that when they pulled out of the deal, there is about 100 million grams of a pearl program that we need. today there had is about 2.5 tons of enriched uranium.

just a few days ago they confirmed that iran installed centrifuges that is something that was prohibited under the nuclear deal and now it happened. so i think one way i think they might respond is not military rockets, but i expect that given the fact that the scientist was so braisingly assassination. i think they will hand over a nuclear crisis with iran. of course north korea has more nuclear weapons that they had before. so the inter stance here is piling up in terms of the dangerous inheritance for the team and it seems that the trump administration is not doing anything to try to hand off a

stable situation here, domestically or internationally. >> quickly the goal, or at least it seems an intended goal, was to try to get back into the iran nuclear deal. what does this do for their ability to get back in. now where are we? >> i negotiated with the iranians. i kind of have a feel for them. one of the main deficiencies is june lateralism. especially when it comes to this issue. i think very rapidly we'll have to come on the same page with our allies. we will have to try to get back into an agreement in a way that

putting limits on this nuclear program. this nuclear program continues to gallop forward. the onlt two ways to limit it are military intervention which i think the risks of that are quite enormous, or a diplomatic arrangement. that is it, those are the choice books, there are no good choices here. i think a coordinated approach with our allies fairly soon into the new administration will be quite important, but again there is 54 more days here once the trump administration will try to salt the earth and i think there is more purr prizes to come unfortunately. >> putting it really well. no good options, your audio dropped in and out a little bit, but i think we got most of it. thank you for talking to us on this very important topic. president trump back on the campaign trail, but republicans worry his false claims of

election fraud could hurt voter turnout. plus the biden administration is going big on it's climate agenda. john kerry's high profile role and what it means joe biden can do on day one.

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is it getting much play on the ground? are people noticing? >> everyone hear is ready to move on from the general election and on trump called this meaningless. this was part of his attacks on georgia's election season. it has some republicans including strategists worried that this rhetoric could depress turnout in the run off. he is doing a little damage control here saying the election is a total scam but he needs people to get out and vote. the gop senators here noting that he is coming to the state on saturday, and speaking of that visit on saturday, he also tweeted his support he is

bringing his support here. >> do they really believe that, is he a good thing for the two republicans? >> it really just depends on his messaging, whether or not he doubles down on these claims or the rhetoric. they need his spotters to turn out in the january they believe their vote is not whether or not it and they might not come in. they are holding the last line of defense against a democratic president, katie? >> julia, thank you for reporting for us. coming up, how joe biden made fighting climate change a priority for his new administration. we're going to look at john ker ri's role and what the president-elect has manned with michael mann after the break. h michael mann after the break

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situation room. let me be clear. i don't for a minute under estimate the difficulties of meeting my bold commitments to fighting climate change. at the same time, no one should under estimate my determine nation to do just that. >> joining me now isor of the e system science center at the university of pennsylvania and also author of the new climate war, the fight to it back our planet, due out in january. michael, thanks for being here. let's talk about what joe biden was just saying there, confronting the realities and it will be difficult. talk to me about what needs to happen versus what can get done, what can get passed through this congress if it does remain a republican-led senate. >> good to be with you. and here as we celebrate the thanksgiving holiday, there is something to be thankful for for

those who care about the delclie crisis and our ability to do something about it because biden does have a bold agenda, i think so john kerry will be a wonderful climate czar. but we do have to be realistic about what will be possible especially if republicans retain control of the senate. we're probably not going to see a sweeping "green new deal" type climate bill pass congress. but we could see some sort of climate legislation, we could see some compromise with some republicans willing to cross the aisle and unite with democrats to support a climate bill that for example does invoke market mechanisms, something that some moderate conservatives would like to see and i think is an important tool in the tool kit, market mechanisms, con send

suggesti consensus climate bill that will help the united states meet its obligations another world stage as we continue to try to argue for global climate action. >> we know a lot of this is about messaging, about branding, how you brand a certain set of policy ideals. it is like obamacare for instance when you call it the aca, people are even more supportive of it, if you call it obamacare, they a are less supportive. when it comes to what we need to see happen to file climate change, is there a way that john kerry can rebrand much of what we saw in the "green new deal" to make it palatable to enough republicans to get things passed and the ball moving in the fight against climate change? >> yeah, i think so. i think that there is something this there for progressives, you know, $2 trillion climate spending program which is what joe biden has put forward in his

climate plan to invest massively in green infrastructure, clean energy. that is an important part of what the "green new deal" is about of course. but again, we also see the likelihood that there will be some sort of market mechanism for putting a price on carbon, right? we have to put a price on carbon, we have to not allow polluters to dump their pollution into the atmosphere at no cost. what form that will that will be a matter of a political debate, but there are a hand testimony of moderate conservatives who indicated that they could support a bill that invokes market mechanismmechanisms. john kerry ten years ago gee because co-sponsor of joe lieberman that would have introduced a cap and trade system to deal with the climate crisis. didn't pass congress, but he's worked with senators as a

leading senator positihimself. and also helped negotiate the china/u.s. deal that laid the ground work ultimately for the very suck skesfcessful paris ag which we'll re-enter under a biden administration. >> let's talk about the other aspect of this, joe biden is promising a multiagency proposal. what did you make of that? >> yeah, it is really interesting. and in fact, it is sort of a holdover from the obama era, a group of policy experts who were influential during the obama presidency have written a report called climate 21. and it is a blueprint for what the biden administration would have liked to have accomplished but didn't quite -- wasn't quite able to during his two terms. and it really is this pan agency approach, a comprehensive approach. thinking outside the box. in the past we've often thought of climate policy as being confined to a few departments,

the department of energy or the epa or maybe interior. but in fact climate change and climate action impacts every facet of our lives. so the idea here is to make sure that it is central to what the state department does, internation international diplomacy. something to agricultural policies, what the treasury d s does. >> and the pentagon has said in its own reports that climate change is one of the biggest threats to national security. because it is about bases that the pentagon maintains around the world being threatened by climate change. michael mann, thanks so much for joining us. and again the new book is called the new climate war, it is out in january. and coming up in the next hour here, much more on the biden transition. president's continued misinformation and

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