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according to the covid tracking project, 90,481 people were hospitalized on thursday and the number of patients in the intensive care over the holiday hit an all-time high of 17,802. the latest spike taking a toll on thousands of health care workers battling on the front lines. those folks have to deal with real life people in real life-and-death circumstances. >> we never know if we're going to walk into a good day where you can see your patient finally leave, who has been there for two months or if you're going to sit there and hold the hands as they pass. and sometimes i can handle it and some days i can't. >> i really hope covid doesn't last for much longer, but we all know that it will. i am over it just like you guys,
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but i continue to do what i do because i love my job. >> we're thankful that people like that do love their jobs because this is hard. as of this morning, there have been 13,160,240 cases nationwide. the death toll has climbed it 265,648. president-elect joe biden and his wife, dr. jim biden, spent part of the thanksgiving holiday giving thanks to those on the front lines who are battling this scourge every day. >> how are you all feeling? >> for real. >> it's crazy. it's crazy what's happening. >> and you're risking your lives. you guys, you're amazing. thank you, thank you, thank you. >> the centers for disease control in its latest forecast predicting covid death tolls
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could top 321,000 over the next four weeks. biden urging americans to remain vigilant with the hope of a vaccine treatment on the horizon. >> america is not going to lose this war. we'll get our lives back. life is going to return to normal, i promise you. this will happen. this will not last forever. >> in what first looked like a change of heart and a reality check, when asked this week if he would leave office in january, donald trump replied, quote, certainly i will, if members of the electoral college cast their votes in favor of joe biden on december 14th as expected, but in typical trump flip flop fashion, a day later he tweeted, quote, "biden can only enter the white house as president if he can prove that his ridiculous 80 million votes were not fraudulently ori
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illegally obtained. when you see what happened in detroit, atlanta and philadelphia and milwaukee, massive voter fraud. he's got a big unsolvable probl problem." and his tweet coincides. the judge who wrote the opinion is a trump appointee blocking trump's request -- and he says "calling an election unfair does not make it so."
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nancy pelosi p npr will nomina-- reports biden address the next climate existential threat at home. president-elect biden is scheduled to receive his first presidential briefing on monday. what do we know about what that's going to mean? in other words, he was getting some sort of substitute briefings that were not official briefings but foreign policy experts were briefing biden and harris until now. what happened? that's different about this? >> reporter: what's different about it is that it's official and it comes from the director of national intelligence's office and begins happening on a
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classified level. those briefings that he was getting before were coming, as you said, from experts and people who are very astute in this realm, but biden has been in this room before. people were cautioning us in the early days in the transition, the fact was that biden is not a stranger to these situations. he's been in the situation room, he's been in the oval office for these meetings with barack obama so sis lettering curhis learnin. this is him starting to ram many up and get all of the background knowledge to come in on day one and make informed decisions. it's also the case for vice president elect kamala harris. it the whole point of the transition, which is making sure when everyone from staffers to the president of the united states shows up on day one, they're not making critical
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decisions just based on the information they sat down and read on the first day but instead a span of several months in advance. agency heads are putting together a list of priorities, things that the incoming officials will need to keep an eye on. you know that it's important because even before the gsa ascertained the biden team, this was the sticking point for a lot of republicans. they couldn't bring themselves to say president-elect biden but they could bring themselves to say they thought biden should be getting the briefings. part of the transition pos process is talking to the people who had these roles before, people coming into the augtcy head but it also goes for
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president-elect biden and for kamala harris. i asked if that was a conversation they needed to have happen. perhaps unsurprisingly they didn't feel a conversation between the outgoing president and incoming president was mission critical. they left the door open but we both niece probab probably both know that's not likely to happen. >> joining me is nicole hannah jones, creator of a 1619 project and is the co-founder of the ' a
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b. wells society for investigative reporting. nicole, thank you for being here. there are so many people who voted in this election, i wouldn't say a single-issue voter but who had something overwhelmingly pushing them toward their vote for joe biden. it may have been social justice, covid, the economy, it may have been health care. at this point with this president coming in and the team he is forming, do you have get some sense of its priorities? it might have been climate, by the way. do you get a sense of what its priorities are and how it's going to manage those stent constituencies for a specific reason? >> climate and pandemic and the economy are going to be the three major areas that the biden
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administration feels it needs to address right away. up see that by the picks announced for the cabinet, you see that because of the rhetoric coming out by the current administration. you no one voting for biden was based on a single thing. s they are clr -- so these are things that they are concerned about. there is a racial divide and we aren't seeing so much of a focus on that thus far. this is something a lot of activists are going to be pushing for is that that aspect is not forgotten, the base of black women and black voters who got joe biden into this position are not forgotten. and we know that jim clyburn, representative clyburn has
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already said he's a little disappointed that aren't enough black people, particularly black women whose names have been announced yet. >> they're going to have a domestic climate czar who will oversee every department's interaction with climate and climate change. it feels like that's what needs to happen with social justice. it's the idea that everybody all oaf government what to look at the atwh-- what the social inequities are and how to address them across the government and private sector. >> every federal agency actually has a civil rights division.
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there is a civil rights division in the department of the treasury, there is a civil rights division in the environmental protection agency, there's a civil rights division in hud, civil rights division in the education department, in the transportation department. the problem is depending upon the administration, that civil right division is either disempowered or um powered. they're hoping that you and the reason that they were applaused in you a that in every aspect of our society we have racial inequality, gender inequality and all of those government agencies have to be tasked with addressing them across the spectrum of american life because they impact americans across all of the speck trigs f of -- spectrum and taking
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positions in social justice is key to the work that they do and it clearly is. >> nicole, good to see you as always. nicole is a pulitzer prize winning journalist and creator of the 1619 project. >> coming up next, the presidential oath, 35 words that every president swears to abide by upon taking office, unless you're donald trump. how the president broke his promise to the constitution and the american people. you're watching msnbc. the ameri. you're watching msnbc. ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. [ engine revs ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.
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he likely won't. that takes humility and self-awareness. it is beyond his ability. every incoming president since george washington has spoken the 35 words in the president's inaugural oath and part of that oath reads, quote, and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states, end quote. to the best of my ability. james nad james madison included the phrase to the best of my judgment and power. jun judgment and power was changed to abilities and shortened to the best of my ability. trump admitting he lost this election to joe
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incapable of the empathy to do the job of president. before he took office, trump said, quote, i think i made a lot of sacrifices. i've worked very, very hard, created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures, i've had tremendous success. i think i've done a lot. is it surprising to anyone that a question about his sacrifices ended with a brag about his businesses? to the best of my ability is a challenge to the oath, to try harder to to be the best they can be. for trump, it turns out those words were an excuse for the failure of his presidency. m. nope! for a smile that's always camera -ready. crest 3d white removes 95% of stains in just 3 days.
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might end the year in a similar conflict. according to iran, the top nuclear scientist was assassinated in his car in at the iran in broad daylight. he was tasked with running the nuclear program. to us here in the u.s. this may not seem like big news but his death is likely another event that will escalate tensions between iran and its adversaries. over the last four years the trump administration's policies toward iran have led us to the pre precipice of conflict. there was news that trump may strike run before the end of his presidency, one that could shut down the possibility of any diplomacy between iran and the incoming administration. i'm joined by ali arouzi, the
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tehran bureau chief for msnbc. what's the latest on this? >> the man that holds all the cards in this country called the first priority after the killing of the definitive punishment of the perpetrators and those who ordered it. he didn't elaborate on who is to blame but yesterday iran's foreign minister said the assassination bore all the hallmarks of an israeli assassination. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu had given a presentation in 2018 warning about the dangers of iran's nuclear program and told the audience to remember his name. that in itself has raised
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serious questions here about the breach of security and iran's inability to protect its most valuable assets. now, ali, along with all the top military brass in iran, the country's president today also expressed fury and vowed revenge for the assassination but with a caveat. he says it has to be done at the proper time and i think that's the most pressing consideration for the powers that be here. these hits are an embarrassment for iran. if they don't counter, they risk looking raweak and vulnerable. if they do strike back, they look to close the door on the nuclear deal and triggering an all-out reprisal that could be devastating to iran. trying to figure out the next move is like trying who herd cats. the country is weakened politically and financially, they've lost key figures and are
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eager to get sanctions removed. they may say there's no difference between the outgoing and incoming administration, but i think they'll be careful not to push the envelope too far with joe biden, officially anyway. >> and the fact is that the rest of the world thinks there is a distinction between the outgoing and incoming administration. john kerrey wiy will be playing part in the incoming administration, he was involved in making the nuclear iran deal. there is some sense the enough american administration will be more sympathetic in getting iran back into the fold than the trump administration had been. >> it's not widely trumpeted but i think scratch the surface and there is a sigh of relief that joe biden is coming in. they dope wan't want to admit i. they want to say it doesn't matter who the occupancy of the
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white house is, that's something they have to say. they don't want to be seen as being too eager to get back into a deal with america. but these guys who are still in power who negotiated a deal have a relationship with joe biden. zarif had met with joe biden many times when he was the head of the foreign relations committee. they've met with each other and have had to deal with each other. it's hard to believe they won't be a little more relieved they don't have to deal with president donald trump. it's hard to understate the level of mistrust between these two and this latest hit is going to make things even more tricky to navigate.
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>> ali arouzi, thanks for joining us, msnbc's at the ron bureau chief. it's becoming increasingly clear the president can do a ton of damage in his remaining time in office. can the country avoid diving into head first. lots of people voted for joe biden for a lot of reasons, but one of them is that joe biden wants to get america back into something of a leadership position in the world and one in which it is not in an adversarial relationship with either iran or north korea or necessarily china or russia, but that these relationships are more constructive. it doesn't seem like that's the administration donald trump wants to hand over to joe biden. >> well, that's for sure. obviously they have not been practicing diplomacy as a way to
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meet our core security objectives with all of those countries that you just mentioned. and i want to be clear, i do not support assassination as a tool of foreign policy. i don't know who did this. i want to be clear about that. but it's immoral. number two, it leads to tit for tat reactions and it doesn't achieve any long-term objective, the idea that one person has some scientific knowledge that others doesn't, that's just not true. i think this is a big mistake whoever did it. to your point, ali, yes, they're inheriting a mess around the world, not only with our adversaries that you just outlined, but also with our allies. we have neglected our allies in europe, in asia and it looks like the trump administration wants to keep putting things in the way right before they hand over power. >> we have a number of no. knees to positio
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-- nominees to position that many of our viewers may not be familiar with, tony blinken, alejandro mayorkas, john kerry, avril haines. how ruff feeling about this group as it relates to national security and diplomacy for the next four years? >> well, i think it's a fantastic lineup so far. several of them i know personally. toney blinken i've known for decades. jake sullivan i worked very closely with when i worked at the white house in the obama administration. remember, he was part of the team along with ambassador bill burns, who led the secret negotiations with the iranians in the beginning. later secretary kerry took over and undersecretary wendy sherman, our colleagues here at
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msnbc but it was jake that opened up those negotiations. and avril haines, first class, secretary kerry, who i worked with when i was ambassador to moscow, i would say a couple of things, very competent people, very experienced people, hard working people who are going to get up every morning to advance america's national interest. they're not going to have any doubts about that oath of office that you read earlier. they' there are going to be policy differences, people will have different positions with biden and harris. but you won't have any question about their kbe tennesscompeten. competency will come back. >> regaining a leadership role in america, where are the pockets of opportunities to demonstrate that?
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rejoining the climate control commission helps. where dou we show leadership in an unstable woshld rigrld right? >> it's a very complicated question. there's no resetting to go back to 2016. there's a sigh of relief and the world, at least people i know, that joe biden will take over in january. he's a noted internationalist. he has volumes, something trump never talked about, promoting ideals abroad he gave no attention to and biden is incredibly experienced. he's been working on foreign policy for decades. having said all that, they are inheriting a world that is more suspicious of american power and
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it worried that we're polarized. guess what, they're right. we're not going to be able to just step in and lead the free world again. we're going to are to prove we can own that and do that more effectively. the easy things to do are first and foremost with our but how to deal with the great powers that you mentioned in the beginning, how to deal more effectively and pragmatically with china and russia in particular and then how to deal with nonproliferation issues with iran has more nuclear capability today than four years ago. north korea has more capability than they did four years ago, china is more powerful today than they were four years august and that's going to be very challenging for the biden administration coming in.
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>> you gave a very fulsome answer to the question, one suggesting that we'll have many more talks. >> well, 13 million cases and counting. unlike americans, the krnds pandemic did not take time off for the holiday. up next, i'll talk to a member of the keep it locked. you're watching msnbc. watching. you're tenacious, i'll give you that! [heavy breathing] product not yet rated.
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this thanksgiving i'm grateful for the new lease on life that i've received. covid destroyed my lungs, and i was able to receive two new lungs in a transplant. i'm grateful for northwestern medicine and mary and joy, who have taken care of me during this tough time and allowed me to get better so that i may make it home. >> that was lung transplant patient carrie wegg who took time this holiday to thank those who help her beat covid, especially the front line medical professionals working around the clock during this deadly pandemic. even as many of us took time off, the coronavirus took no break whatsoever. covid caseloads are expected to
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as many refuse to heed warnings to wear masks, to stay home if possible and keep distanced from others. this curve is the most nerve racking for front line workers because of the shrinking capacity in hospital icus that made lead to a crisis in the coming months or maybe even in the coming weeks. dr. celine gounder had a stark worry she shared yesterday, "quote, i'm really worried that come christmas and up in year's we're really going tock struggling having people find a bed for them in icus. dr. gounder, you said something interesting. we're dealing with people who think of wearing a mask as a
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civil rights issue. you said it's kind of like politicizing toilet paper. it's just something you do to keep other people safe and to keep yourself safe. i'm not quite sure how it emerged into the rifl its thing. but i am quite sure that president donald trump had something to do with that. . >> i think that's right. i this the the whole mask wearing and following of some of these public health and i think unfortunately because we have allowed ourselves to be di in a house divided against itself cannot stand. we have not been against the rye vus. we have been against one another and it's precisely why as a developed nation we have done so much work. >> what do you make of the cdc
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saying that the number of. is that because there are a lot of asymptomatic people or because we're not testing enough? >> it's some of both. you have the small tip of the iceberg that's above water. those are the people who are visibly sick who are gets hospital that's below water and the only way to make in a or and there's been active discouragement of testing over the last several months. that is something you're going to see changing under the new administration. we will be actively trying to ram many up and encourage much, much more testing. >> so i'm headed to sought dakota right after the show, where i'm going to be talking to people and businesses and workers about how they're
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suffering. i looked at the positivity rate. it's 43%. in new york when it hit 3%, they shut down a whole lot of things all of a sudden. i can't imagine 43% of people in south dakota have covid. so you end up going to a hospital or doctor because you've got symptoms and the likelihood is that much higher than we be a because you really do need to see those cases that have milder, no symptoms, in order to stop transmission. up need to identify who those people are. you need to be able to give them advice on isolation so they're not passing on the infection to others, who may get january and
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february and you were on tv at the aim time talking about ppe. i can't we're still talking to nurses and doctors who doesn't have enough ppe and testing and time -- when does that change in. >> well, those are both going to be really important pry. so with respect to ppe, this is where the defense pebs acted is kep, something for the president to invoke the defensive act as well to order up ppe equipment,
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especially the medical grade we need to be using in the hospitals. with respect to testing, some of this is also an issue that can be addressed by the defense approximate it's also a question of encouraging people to get tested, to say that this is important and to provide the service in communities in a way that's accessible, where people don't have to wait in long lines and they get. >> good to talk to you. thank you for joining me again, dr. pr and for that we are grateful. as we've been talking about on this show today, doctors and health officials have been issuing door frnings again cdc guide opinion cal perry recently
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returned to london after covering the presidential election for months here in the united states and he gave us a transition of travel. many in america are returning to the skies. the tsa screening more than a million passengers multiple days this week, setting new records since the pandemic grounded flights worldwide. only a fraction were flying internationally but i was one of them, returning home to my family in the u.k. after election siegle on the road. mo moye. >> so you're going to punnel, here the. >> michael: think -- i had to go on and fill out a health
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questionnaire saying where i was born, getting my home address, giving permission for them to trace and check up on me. >> to get into the uchblts k. you must have proof that you are a citizen and without that you. >> reporter: my flight this time busier than the one i took to the u.s. in september, but still only a third full. at chicago's o'hare where i departed, international passenger traffic has declined, 73% this year. the number of flights slashed in turn. between london and new york, american and british airways used to fly 111 flights a week. now it's only 14. upon arrival, there's another check of your documents and a temperature screening. but the most sure sign of a
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as temperatures continue to drops across the nation so will the revenue as many restaurants as fewer and fewer customers look to dine outdoors. the industry has been one of the hardest hit by the coronavirus pandemic and that impact is being felt by the millions who are employed by them. according to national restaurant association 1 in 6 restaurants that were open in march will have closed by the end of 2020. how some independent eateries in the united states will not make it to 2021 without help from money from congress. >> ervin never in my mind would expect a pandemic would be why a restaurant could potentially close. >> reporter: it's one of the hardest hit industries during the pandemic. there was a slow recovery during the summer months with outdoor dining. but now nine months in the average restaurant is still
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seeing about a 35% loss from last year every day. that's according to a rally for restaurant day. down 17% from february, more than 2 million people. >> i've worked through 9/11, worked through 2008. i never saw what happened to us in our industry on march 17th where we were asked to close with about 24 hours notice. >> reporter: bobby stucky is the co-founder overseeing four restaurants in colorado. he furloughed all 225 employees back in march. the team was hopeful during the gradual re-openings but now are shutdown again. >> our biggest winner this year is down 52% over last year. some restaurants because of the footprint and how it worked with restrictions is down 60%. >> reporter: these restaurant owners are looking to lawmakers for help.
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>> there's responsibility as leaders. and in this situation leadership needs to help take care of this major sector, 10% of the american work force. and that's what's frustrating. >> we really need the restaurant acts to be passed. we need ppp to be able to weather the next 6 to 12 weeks without indoor dining. >> reporter: the independent restaurant coalition is lobbying to save the small restaurants and bars affected by covid-19 by way of the restaurants act. the bipartisan bill prepss a $120 billion grant program focused on independent operators especially women in minority owned businesses. the grant would cover a wide range of expenses, supplies, payroll, rent and ppe for employees. the keyword here is grant instead of another round of loans. why would a grant be helpful to restaurant owners than a loan? >> the restaurant business for
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some people works on very small margins. to make on businesses take on loans to survive these 18 months is punitive. that's not going to help the survival rate. >> reporter: while the bill has bipartisan support and there's been agreement the restaurant industry is critical, it's unlikely to pass unless it's part of a broader deal. the irc warns without aid 85% of independent restaurants could close permanently. can your restaurant survive without any form of federal aid? >> no way. there's just no way that's tenable. and it's not tenable for any ceo or any leader of industry. >> reporter: what is your reaction seeing kind of the back and forth and stalemate that we're seeing in congress right now over that? >> frustration and worry because, you know, we only -- our days are numbered. let's put it that way. >> that was nbc's laura barrett
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reporting. and restaurants and other thousands of independent businesses across the country are struggling to stay open. more than 100,000 u.s. businesses have already closed permanently and many more likely won't make it to the other side of this thing taking millions of workers with them. to that end i'm heading back on the road literally right now. tomorrow morning we're rebooting velshi across america, surviving the next wave. every weekend the rest of the year i'm going to travel to hard hit parts of the canty to speak with small business owners about what they're doing to imstay safe and stay afloat during this time. we'll also be taking your questions. if you're a small business owner or worker struggling to make it through this client or if you're a customer and client and knows what you want to shop e-mail me your questions or suggestions at velshi.com. our panel of experts might answer your questions on-air for
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it's going to be a very hard thing because we know there was massive fraud. >> if the electoral college does elect president-elect joe biden are you not going to leave this building? >> certainly i will. certainly i will. >> good morning and welcome to "am joy." i'm maria theresa kumar. less than 24 hours after donald trump told reporters he would leave office if the electoral college finalizes joe biden's win, he took to twitter to falsely claim biden couldn't enter into office until his 80 million votes could be proven legal. lucky for trump the courts are doing a great job of that already. on friday a philadelphia appeals court ruled the trump campaign could not stop or attempt to reverse pennsylvania's vote certification. in a blistering rebuke the rule being stated charges require specific allegations and then proof. we have neither here. the presi

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