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and upset stomach. talk to your doctor or pharmacist about protecting yourself with shingrix. shingles doesn't care. shingrix protects. welcome back. today the justice department released this copy of michael flynn's pardon. that ask to dismiss the case as moot and this pardon. that is of course for making false statements to the federal government, all of this signed by donald trump. that is an update to the news. we want to show you. pardons are for criminals. that does it for me. the "the reidout" starts now. >> good evening. in just 51 days, joe biden will be sworn in as 46th president of
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the united states. and he is taking action to hit the ground running. meanwhile, the current presidency has descended into almost shakespeare tragedy if not comedy. to over turn the election veered from the theater of the absurd to just flat out absurd. hold up in the white house fuming about the election and refusing to admit it's over. the fact is joe biden victory was clear and decisive. with a 6 million plus vote margin. today arizona certified results showing that once again biden won. in a state trump contested. and wisconsin signed the determination of its result confirming biden won there too. that followed a $3 million wisconsin recount. that trump bamboozled supporters into paying for. which resulted in biden gaining 87 votes.
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in a pennsylvania court on friday rejected an effort to revive a trump challenge. the judge writing calling an election unfair doesn't make it so. charges require specific allegations and proof. we have neither. trump continued the assault on democracy on twitter and a tinfoil hat yesterday floating the claim the fbi and justice department -- the one led by his chief henchman william barr. might have helped rig the election against him. >> this is total fraud. how the fbi and department of justice. i don't know maybe they are involved. people can get away with this stuff is unbelievable. >> chris krebs who was in charge of election before he was fired for telling the truth. that his claims are dead wrong. >> there's no foreign power that is flipping votes.
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there's no domestic actor flipping votes. i did it right. we did it right. this was a secure election. >> not spridsingly trump didn't agree and raged about it on twitter. behind the scenes the transformation into king leer is as strange if not stranger than the barr himself could have imagined. 20 days post election reveals quote sequestered in the white house and bruting. rageful and delirious. in a torrent of private conversations. he was in the telling of one close adviser like mad king george. muttering i won, i won, i won. adding 20 days between the election and move 3 and the green light of the transition the hallmark life in the white house. the fragile emotional state.
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feuds between factions of aids and a pernicious blurring of truth and fantasy. while he sulks, joe biden is working. despite a fractured foot. today biden was expected to receive his first presidential daily briefing on intelligence. vice president-elect kamala harris was briefed this afternoon. biden continues to fill out top roles in administration. announcing his communication team led by entirely by women. white house press secretary. economics team he nominated ceo of the center for american progress to lead the management and budget. nominating former federal reserve chair the first woman to serve as treasury secretary. he will introduce the economic team tomorrow in delaware. joining me now. democratic senator of hawaii.
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senator, you look at this contrast between a president-elect to a setting up government trying to balance the needs of diversity and make sure constituents are well represented and the way that his cabinet is populated. and you have this sort of madness in the white house. "washington post" story was stunning. the united states senator, what do you make of this the end stage of trumpism? >> i only hope it's the end stage. and as he continues to flail around and file more lawsuits, every single one of which except for one minor he calls it a victory. he will keep ongoing. 51 days and i smile now. maybe some level of sanity can be expected. but it's going to be a hit the ground running for the biden harris team. and i'm so glad he is appointing
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people who come do their job. and understanding of what they're supposed to be doing. with competence and life experience and diversity. that makes me smile. there's hope for the future. >> you know, let's talk about that. you have people carping about -- up to date not been any asian american api nominees. of course her background and ind yand american. and getting beaten up by people like cornen of texas. going after her for combative and insulting comments. as if he -- he called trump a toddler. he needed to -- it's not as if these people on the right have not said a lot of things about democrats. about members of the house representatives including aoc and feel free to do that.
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and say whatever they want and get what they want. what do you make of them trying to use her tweets as a reason not to give her a stand in the way of getting a job? >> the hypocrisy doesn't apply to the republicans in their view. hypocrisy is what they exhibit all the time. they'll have a chance to question her. regarding all of the issues they are concerned about. she comes to that job with life experience of being on food stamps. section eight housing. she understands the role of government to actually help people and help families opposed to one of her predecessors. who's goal in life was cut back on social social security and medicaid and government wasn't there to help people. and constrict it as much as possible. she has lived the experience of
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social safety net the government provide and people needing a helping hand. and reflective of the values the poor families. which is really quite a relief. for those who look at government as not the solution but a part of enabling people to thrive. >> you talk about the diversity. you have a lot of constituent si back and forth. they would like to see an african-american in defense. and some disappointment that the communication team will not be led in the white house by a black woman. you have like a lot of hip ok si. rumblings if sally yates will fight it. do you any joe biden should make the people acting. the way trump felt free to.
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mick mulvaney held multiple jobs. which he tried to destroy from within. why couldn't biden make people acting? if the senate doesn't like it. >> he has people who bring a lot of competence and experience about how government should run. to help people. so he doesn't want to put them in a position where they're acting just to get around the republican concerns. the republicans will have all kind of time to ask the appropriate questions of all the nominees and that's what they ought to be doing. i hope they don't just start being obstructionists and sour grapes. what's good for the goose is good for the gander or something like that. they shouldn't be applying standards to the biden nominees that they had no problems not applying to all the trump nominees who were just totally conflict of interest and not understanding of the admissions of the departments they headed.
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>> yeah. no kidding. that is well said. thank you so much for being here. always appreciate you. joining me now former deputy national security adviser and chief strategist for mitt romney campaign. same question. what he has shown over four years is that as president you can do what the hell you want. republicans laid down while he handed russia its dream foreign policy. he put people in place that were seemd to be there to loot their own divisions of the departments and destroy them and pick them apart inside. mick mulvaney had two jobs as once. why should joe biden even ask. put anybody in whatever position and say they're acting if you don't like it. >> the republican party and the senate is acting as if we all are going to have collective
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amnesia about four years. they confirmed some people for positions important positions who are twitter trolls. they jammed in acting people all akrsz the government to try to take apart the agencies. now joe biden nominated by all accounts efb if you disagree. they are qualified and experienced professionals. we have debate issues and if we're talking about tweets from a political party that has just enabled somebody who on a daily basis calls people all different names on twitter and set a precedent. anybody who says senators don't like in the public square is disqualified from future employment. that's not how government runs. he should do this above board by the process. but if the republican party demonstrates it will carry forward this norm busting trumpism into yet another democratic presidency, yes, he should make sure had has the
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people in place to run the government. he will have been left a catastrophe with covid-19 and economic crisis. we need competent people in the jobs. one way or another. >> the optics so far is what we're hearing. they are prepared to fight two women. sally yates for discovering trump might be disrucorrupt andg her joe biden. and a woman of color. that's not a good look to me to fight toez two women. >> this whole thing is ridiculous. you can't find anybody who said nastier things about donald trump than republicans. >> lindsey graham. >> she said he was the end of the republican party. rubio and look at lindsey graham.
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major foreign policy go to go in the senate. he called him a lunatic. completely transparent and it's just sort of the silliness that republicans have fallen into. you wouldn't do this in a student body election in high school. i think the biden administration and i think there's a great longing for return to normal. they would rather go through the processes. they think the processes have merit. so i think they will try to get what they want through normal channels. they may have more success than you might have imagine. some republicans will go along with the idea a new president can pick their own cabinet. >> one would hope so. there's also a theory a president should pick their own foreign policy. you have this assassination of the nuclear scientist in iran. it's not clear who was behind
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it. it's not openly stated it was israel or united states wink wink signed off on it. the idea is it will make it more difficult for the biden add mirs to reenter the nuclear arms deal with iran. to keep them from developing nuclear weapons. what do you make of that? is foreign policy is constricted before he gets there, i don't know if republicans understand that democrats have a right to be president. >> the timing of this just cries out. this is man well known to israel and united states for a couple decades. involved in the nuclear program. wooe having this really irresponsible illegal assassination of a scientist in a foreign country take place during a transition. it's not going to succeed in solving the problem. that program is rolled back. iran has significantly advanced the nuclear capability since
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trump pulled out of the agreement. and they have been using this time to stack more. and the assassination. even if this was a critical scientist in iran he's not the only one with the knowledge of how to conduct the program. you cannot e liliminate that. this seems very much like an effort to sabotage an incoming biden add mirs to do what they want to do. return to a nuclear agreement. >> you have jared kushner to meet with the saudis. that's never a good idea. nothing he does every succeeds. what is he doing trying to engage in what foreign policy in the last minute? it doesn't smell right. >> he's a ridiculous figure in public american history. the idea you have someone involved in foreign policy based
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on who the president's daughter is sleeping with. it's an absurd notion. he understands the middle east because he read 26 books. it's just a degrading of the process. which makes america look weak. if the prb can be involved by jared kushner it's not taking seriously as a problem. we have to go back to a american leadership here. you don't need a world with ridiculous figures like jared kushner. >> the people so far put forward by the biden team are serious people. they are competent and intelligent people. the world will breathe a great bit of fresh air and be happy to see normal government in america again. up next. dr. fauci warning to america. >> what we expect unfortunately as we go for the next couple of
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weeks into december, that we might see a surge super-posed upon that surge that we're already in. >> plus supreme court hears arguments in the plot to rig the census and congressional reapportionment. new york attorney general joins me and the very serious legal challenges trump might face when he leaves office. and joe joins me on trump's tiny table tantrum. and how he might kill any chance republicans have of winning the georgia run off. when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world for the millions of people on the autism spectrum.
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nearly 5,000 died. now experts are warning of a new winter surge. >> we expect unfortunately, as we go for the next couple of weeks into december, that we might see a surge super-posed upon that surge that we're already in. >> covid is not nice. it doesn't have any friend. and i'm back in the hospital now. with some related extended side effects. a blood clot in my leg and lung. >> if your family traveled you have to assume you are exposed and you need to get tested in the next week. >> we're exhausting all efforts doing everything we can. and still cannot save everyone. >> i want to be straight with the american people. it's going to get worse over the next several weeks. >> joining ne now. a preventive medicine physician who participated in the vaccine
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trial. and also lost her father to covid-19. and thank you so much for being here. it's great to talk with you. it is frustrating to me. we spent the first thanksgiving i ever spent in my daughters entire life without her. she traveled and we didn't let her come home. we are trying to follow the advice we're giving. when i see people are just -- let me show you. 400 people a party shut down in manhattan. responding to similar events this weekend. tsa screened 1 million people. on sunday. highest number since mid-march. 2.88 million people were screened the sunday after thanksgiving. it keeps going and going. how frustrating is it to you as somebody who lost your dad to this and out there trying to work in the public health for people not to listen. >> it's actually heartbreaking. over the weekend unfortunately
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another one of my loved ones died from the coronavirus. a stroke most likely due to the infection. i spent thanksgiving on the telephone making calls to friends. and members of the church. it is difficult to see that people are just too fatigued. that'sth best way to say it. with can't let up. we must send the same message. my family we would have loved to have been together. we had to do it by zoom. that is just what the safe thing is to do. that's what the public health recommendation is right now. we're going to have to hold the line so we can enjoy better days ahead. >> we did a zoom. it was seven different states. you can make it hot. zoom can be -- it was fun. we enjoyed it. it's like i don't know we have to change something in the
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culture as americans. we are the i can do whatever i want culture. and i feel like we're never going to get out of this. i don't mean to just complain to you. i'm going through denver. where i used to live. denver, colorado senate republicans did a special session on covid. without masks on. the mayor on the republican side. on the democratic side the mayor said don't travel. and he traveled. we have a messaging problem. we have a problem that people don't believe they have covid when they go to the hospital with covid. do you have advice to communicate differently and speak to people differently. in a way they might hear it. >> story telling. narrative. on keep elevating and amplifying the stories of those who experienced coronavirus firsthand. i was telling people the other day, we have to put a face to the science. we have to put a face to the pandemic. that's only what will register with people.
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we're really fatigued. we're stunned. this has been an unprecedented public health crisis. we are our message can't change and we especially need people in leadership to walk the walk and talk the talk. me, myself i tell people i'm not going out for thanksgiving. and i didn't do it. it was difficult. i had people looking to me. we have to demonstrate accountability. >> i worry about the virus. the vaccine. you were part of the trial. they might be the one that high the highest success rate. i worry that it will hearing that a vaccine is coming will make people even more lax. i'll do what i want because a vaccine is coming. and the other piece is when it comes, black people might be like i don't trust science. the experiments. there's not a lot of trust and it was developed during trump
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era. i'm worried about both. you worried? >> yes. i'm very concerned about that. i have been talking about this and i have been clear to say too often science has been a tool of white supremacy. we can look at a assorted history legacy of medical experiments. exploitation. that blacks and browns. or enslaved women under going surgeries to under go experiments. i usually start my conversation there. especially in communities where there's broken trust. it's not responsibility of the community to just suddenly have trust. it's the responsibility of the medical healthcare to demonstrate trustworthiness. we have to be seen and visible
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having difficult conversations. and share the science and what's known about the science. we need to remove the cloak from the process. people can say i understand that better. there's been way too much misinformation and disinformation and i can tell you that misinformation and disinformation has cost lives. we'll have to have all hand on deck on mind on deck. hearts on deck. to restore the public health infrastructure and rescue public trust. in our government institution. >> you can get an amen. i'll ask our social media guy. clip that. what she just said. i want to make sure i share that with everyone. everyone i know will get that sent out. thank you so much. you're wonderful. up next. trump attempt to subvert the u.s. census is before the supreme court. what about the legal challenges he will face when he's a private citizen again? private citizen again? (customer) hi?
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fewer than two months left in the administration. trump ask republicans continue to push forward with radical agenda. today the u.s. supreme court anchored by six conservative judges heard arguments in case about an executive order trying to exclude undocumented immigrants from the census. 22 states led by new york challenged the order in court. if trump is successful certain democratic states like california would lose representation. which is exactly the point. trump stated aim in the order was to not reward states where large numbers of undocumented immigrants live. however according to the constitution he doesn't have the power to decide that. it's unclear how the conservatives. 6-3 margety will rule. three lower courts ruled against trump. the legal tactics are another example of a larger republican strategy to stifle the
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democratic process. with the census complete republicans across the country are set to draw new legislative and congressional districts that cement their unrepresentative minority rule for yet another decade. joining me now. attorney general for the state of new york. and thank you so much. let's talk about the census case. what would be the impact on the state of new york if donald trump case is successful? >> before i begin my argument, let me congratulate she's a friend. someone who worked on both of my campaigns. and i'm so incredibly proud of her. congratulations, my sister. >> here here. >> we argue before the united states supreme court. regardless of your immigration status you don't cease to be a whole person. which is required under the constitution. it makes it clear that all
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individuals matter and everyone should be counted. this is nothing more than attempt by a president who has exhibited antiimmigrant sentiment. that he unfortunately will disregard the humanity of individuals who reside in the country. and the result will be the consequence will be we lose representation in congress. our one of our forms of government is that we have a representation democracy. new york and other rich immigrant states will lose representation in congress and in addition to that we will lose resources. states like new york and california and florida and texas, we lose representation. this is just more again antiimmigrant rhetoric by a president who seeks to devalue, diminish, and obstruct the rule of law. the constitution and the census
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are clear. that individuals should be counted. today the arguments were both on the merit and also procedural. i want to focus again on the merit. i want to focus on the constitution the rule of law and four corners of the statue as well as the constitution. that make it plain kp clear you can't continue to degrade and dehumanize immigrants. you have done that from day one. unfortunately comments disparaging against immigrants to the muslim ban and the citizen ship question. and again tonight at the border. thousands of children who have been removed, taken out of the arms of their loving parents. we have to do all we can do under the next administration to reunite the children with their parents. we as a country are better than that.
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>> just dpr for our audience. their prediction is showing arizona could lose a seat. with latino population. montana. a small non-white population would gain a seat. you can see california, florida and texas lose a seat in the house. talking about actually minority rule being implemented making the congress whiter. for this president to be doing it. that's a galling thing. on the other hand he's somebody who himself might want to be thinking more about his own future. in terms of the law. and what he might be facing including in new york. this is somebody who your office has investigated the trump organization lying about the value of assets to get loans and tax benefits. the trump organization under valuing their property. in order to bilk new york state out of taxes. you deposed his son. michael cohen stated trump
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inflated assets to get favorable loans and bilk insurance companies. that fraud. should he be spending more time about getting better lawyers than he had for the recount hoax. might you be investigating him come january 21. >> our investigation was based on the testimony of michael cohen. those in the administration including the president who would like to argue i'm playing politics. we follow the law in my office. politics stop at the door. following the law and facts and evidence. and we'll make a determination. this civil investigation will continue whether or not he's the president or not. because based on alleged financial impropriety by his organization and members of his family, our investigation will continue. >> attorney general state of new york. i second your kudos. she's our favorite. meanwhile vicious infighting in
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i'm proud to be a part of aag. i trust 'em. i think you can too. call now! donald trump is so unable to process the fact that he lost the election, he's jeopardizing the georgia run off and the republican party chance do to hold the majority in the united states senate. he's attacking georgia republican governor for not doing more to over turn the election. says he's ashamed to support him. trump and supporters has corroded trust in georgia's voting system. among the party base. that was clear this weekend at a georgia campaign stop with rnc chair. >> how do we get money and work when it's already decided? >> it's not decided.
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this is the key. >> if you lose your faith and you don't vote, people walk away. that will decide it. >> i'm joined my joe. host of morning joe. and author of saving freedom. the cold war and the fight for western civilization. i love turning the tables. thank you for being here. already shaking your head. >> great to be here. >> thank you so much. i don't understand the strategy here of saying this is all rigged. georgia was run poorly. being so cruel to the republicans who run georgia. that the secretary of state is getting death threats and saying by the way, please vote. for our guys in january. can you make sense of this? >> nobody can make sense of it. of course donald trump can't make sense of it. republicans have a reason to be concerned. you have you heard in the clip, somebody asking the question why
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should we give money. why work for an election that is rigged? you have been telling us that all of the elections have been rigged. and the inconsistency is catching up with them. the fact you have governor kemp who was a loyal lap dog for trump for yores now accused of rigging this election. same thing with the secretary of state. and now they're so stupid they even pulled in kelly loeffler to this. saying somehow brian kemp got together with her to keep doug collins off the ballot. this is a again another great example of how trump is not playing four dimensional chess. he's eating the chess pieces. >> i worked on a couple elections down south. it's a different world. those who read your book i'm enjoying it. know you have family roots in
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georgia. and you talk about the elections down south. there sa will the to it that you are authentic. rural voters will want that biography to be real. you have loeffler from illinois. nothing wrong with that. her biography there's a long piece talking about how much she was imported into georgia. and buy a senate seat. and turns around and makes money off her inside knowledge of the pandemic. as did perdue. and you have the two guys super-flawed. they have issues. and the way they're fighting to keep a seat is down the republican establishment in their state. and go after the pastor of a baptist church. and saying it comes from the pit of hell. i don't get it. >> i don't get it either. you are right. i told people about campaigning at least in my neck of the woods in northwest florida. you walk into a room, people judged you like that. they knew whether you were real
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or not. i don't know. maybe it will work in this campaign for republicans. but where i come from, you don't denigrate somebody's faith in jesus christ because they don't believe in the same things that you believe in politically. doug collins, i say this as somebody that i'm sure you know, when i i was in congress i voted consistent pro-life line. i can also tell you i have been a southern baptist my entire life. i read enough of the bible to know this reduction of jesuss ministry to retching one verse out of the old testament and claiming that somehow that trump is everything and the gospel. trump everything in jesus ministry. that suddenly, okay, if you're a pro-life, you call yourself
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pro-life but support caging children? that somehow there's a consistency there? obviously, i personally think doug collins and republicans would have done better to actually read the red letters in the new testament to read jesus's words and talks about it's better than a mill stone be hung around a person's neck and thrown to the bottom of the sea before they mistreat a child. before they cast a child away. but obviously, it seems they are pro-life from conception until the moment the child is born. it's the same thing with again -- you look at what the republican party is focussed on. you look at what doug collins is focusing on. i have a hard time looking at matthew 25. what you have done for the least among these you have done to me.
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i can't square their political philosophy under trump. with what jesus says about separating the sheep and goat. if he really wants to have a theological debate with the reverend? that's a debate he's going lose. not just in georgia but i would guess in most churches where actually the gospel still means something to people who go there. at least means more than the latest political factions and what they believe in the republican party. >> let me play quickly. this is collins questioning warnock's faith. >> there is no such thing as a pro-choice baptist. it's time to send it back. it's a lie. >> throw that out there. the pastor of king's historic
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church. >> it's unbelievable. a lie from the pit of hell would be for somebody like doug collins to put his faith and say you have to believe just like l believe on every political issue or you can't be a christian or you can't be a follower or jesus christ. i tell you what, he has -- i -- my family's from north georgia just like him. he's reading a different bible than we've been reading in north georgia for the past 300 years. >> i'm a church girl, too. i don't recognize that at all. i could not resist. here's the tiny desk. you were a member of congress. how long would your chief of staff have lasted in his job for putting you at a desk that small? he looks like a third grader. >> i don't understand.
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a lifetime sitting at that desk. it has been four years of embarrassment. now i've got to say, joy, i have been wondering, i've been waiting for republicans to -- so-called conservatives to start speaking up. i actually saw the national review editorial attacking donald trump for what he's doing and saying it's time to move on. the wall street journal editorial page, after running cover for this guy for four years, most of the time, is now telling him the gig's up. >> yeah. >> most republicans are saying that now privately. but how sad that republican senators still don't have the courage, that mitch mcconnell still doesn't have the courage to say publicly what we all know is the truth. >> yeah. spines are needed but joe is not going anywhere. you're going to stick around. we'll talk about your book.
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in his new book "saving freedom: truman" joe skrar bro shapes the for president obama and america's role in the world. he notes that in contrast, while trump's america first theme initially struck a nerve with voters but his ignorance and lack of skill kept him from making any significant foreign policy issue over the past four years. i am in the midst of reading your book and i'm enjoying it a lot. >> all right. >> i am intrigued by harry truman. i'm a history buff, anyway. he's this racist senator from missouri who writes his wife
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little notes about n words and chinamen and comes in and does more to advance black americans than fdr did, you know, de -- allowing black people to actually get into the military and the federal work force. actually does a lot and ended up changing. how do you think he also changed our foreign policy? >> i want to talk about that first, because it's fascinating to see how much he grew. he came from missouri. his parents were both pro confederate. he had a racist background but in 1948, election year, when he knows it's going to hurt him politically, he moves to integrate the armed services, and sure enough, strom thurmo thurmond -- >> yes. >> walked out of the convention h 48. he's getting attacked by henry wallace on the left and strom thurman on the right and dewey
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republican and frankly he didn't give a damn, as crashing gable might say. given the service that black americans gave during world war ii and he thought it had to be done, and it's another example of how harry truman grew in his life. this was a guy that was mocked and ridiculed when he came to washington, d.c. he was called a rube by "the new york times." another called him a mousey little man from new jersey. after he became. of the united states after f.d.r.'s sudden death, he had to guide this country not only into world war ii but in a tush leapt peace times where americans and especially republicans were isolationists. they didn't want to be bothered by europe. they didn't want to be bothered by the rest of the world. they'd just gotten past defeating hitler. jet joseph stalin and the soviet
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union posed a great risk to freedom not only in central europe but in we were europe and across the world. truman marshalled the resources from republicans and democrats alike to stand up and contain the soviet union spread and to ensure freedom in europe and created really more than any other president over the past 75 years, created the world that we live in today. >> you know, and it's interesting because there's some ambivalence about him, too. there's the hiroshima and nagasaki that many might argue it's incredibly cruel thing to do. contrast that with the current guy, because he's not growing. >> it's hard to contrast it with the current guy. truman believed in plain speaking. he said the buck stopped here. he liked making difficult decisions and felt better at
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night after he did what he thought was the right thing to do. he didn't blame other people for his miss takes. he took responsibility and i believe at the end he changed the world for the better. >> he was an adult. joe squar bro -- >> it does help. >> y'all pick up his book. that's all for us. kris hayes now. >> tonight on "all in," had this every happened to you? >> congratulations, sir, you won the election. this election was over and then they did dumps, they call them dumps. >> critical senate runoffs in georgia and republicans have lost control of the monster they've created. >> it's not decided. this is the key -- >> how do you know? >> it'sot
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