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good day every one. welcome to weekends with alex witt. here is what's happening a bit past 2:00 p.m. eastern. president trump back on the first for first time as an out going president in a few hours. he heads to georgia to rally voters ahead of the senate run off races. it comes as the bla tants reality of the president's election loss is becoming harder and harder to ignore. overnight, president-elect joe biden officially securing more

than 270 electors after california certified its election. these steps which are traditionally just formalities join new scrutiny given trump's ongoing attempts to overturn the ru results. it comes on the heels of a brutal day in court. striking out in six different states, bringing the total number of courtroom losses to more than 30. the trump team drawing sharp rebuke from judges including appoi appointees for lack of evidence. new reporting from nbc news today says pentagon chief of staff and trump loyalist is controlling the biden transition team's access to pentagon agencies even blocking some officials from providing the transition team with key information. we begin this hour with nbc josh let letterman in washington, d.c.

who is cash patel and how is he using his power the shut out the biden transition team? >> reporter: he was put in the role of chief of staff at the pentagon in the last few weeks. he's a long time trump ally who worked previously for congressman devin nunes when we chaired the republican house intelligence committee and led that investigation into the origins of the russia probe. patel has politicized that process. trying to steer requests for information from the biden transition to political appointees. particularly on the most significant issues such as the wind down of troops from afghanistan, iraq and other critical national security

issues. in oth trying to put the trump administration's stamp on that information. they are seeking to have access to layest about what's happening with our military and national security apparatus. it's reported that the pentagon has blocked biden transition officials from visiting some of the intelligence agencies that fall underneath the purview of the pentagon such as the national security agency. we should note that this reluctance to cooperate when it comes to the national security

apparatus of the pentagon is different from what we're seeing from other parts of the government so the other cabinet agencies that from all accounts have been much more willing to cooperate with the transition since the gsa ascertained president-elect joe biden's victory in the race just a few weeks ago. >> okay. thank you. let's go to latest from the transition. also a skeptical when it comes to this vaccine. seems like massive uphill battle. >> reporter: all of those times on the biden tran igs to do list as they get ready to be inaugurated on january 20th. they are trying the build a plan

to deseminate a vaccine. that's something biden says he hasn't been a specific plan from trump administration as they have been talking to thing a sis and getting read in on the progress made so far. he described it as it's going to be a difficult task going forward making sure that states and localities have both the work flow in place, the people in place but also the money in place to get a vaccine out to americans. there's also the piece as it relates to building trust and having guidance coming from the president of the united states. that will range from everything from wearing mask, which biden has says he wants americans to do for first 100 days of his term in order to continue stopping the spread of this virus but it also extending to building trust in communities who might be skeptical of this vaccine including members of the black community. he was asked about that the other day when he held a press conference here. listen to his response.

>> we're not going be the guinea pigs. they won't be. you'll see tens of millions americans taking it. you'll see the president of united states. it will take some effort to rebuild confidence in science. i got to make sure that the vaccine is both free and available and that any follow up on the vaccine is free and available that relates to any health complications from it. >> reporter: now, biden is not tackling this confidence crisis alone. we heard from other past president, including obama, george w. bush and bill clinton who said they will publicly take this vaccine if dr. anthony fauci say it's safe the take. we're talking other presidents from both parties to get in on this to get americans to be confident in this vaccine. the other piece is getting the

economy back on track. something that biden really said he was a priority for him yesterday as he was talk about what he described as a dire state of the economy looking at these last jobs numbers that we're getting at the end o of the year. part of that is the stimulus bill that's working its way through capitol hill now. biden says he supports whatever this lame duck congress can come out with because it's so needed. at the same time he's referred to this as a down payment. he will come back for several hundreds of billions of dollars more. it's the second piece as we watch this continue to move quickly. the pandemic does change the economic landscape. he will have to come back and get another stimulus package to keep americans and small businesses going through this time. >> we look forward to that. thank you so much. turning to capitol hill where it finally feels like a bipartisan sense of urgency to pass a new coronavirus relief bill. speaker pelosi says there's momentum on a $908 billion deal.

joining me is pennsylvania congresswoman. democrat vice chair of the house judiciary committee. thank you for joining me. i'm flash flood i'm glad to have you here. speaker pelosi says there's a new dynamic around the new president and the vaccine. four months, democrats would not budge from $2.2 trillion. not even for a $1.8 trillion white house proposal. now they are willing to agree to half of that. what is the reasoning behind this and how is this better than the $1.8 trillion deal that was turned down in october? >> there was never that deal on the table. you talk about the democrats not coming to the bitable. the senate has yet to pass something. we are thrilled they are sensing some urgency which we have been talking about since may. wa we're hearing from our constituents is they need this leaf.

i think we're approaching a point we can take what we get now and move forward to get what else is needed because this clearly doesn't meet all of the issues. >> absolutely. to that point about the senate. senators mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer were spaying on the senate floor as the negotiations got urntnder way. let's listen. >> compromise is within reach. we know where we agree. we can do this. let me say it again. we can do this. we need to do this. let's be about actually making a law. >> once again, the republican leader argued that the senate should pass only what republicans approve of. sdp >> what are the main sticking points? what will it take to get both parties to agree and pass this desperately down payment bill?

>> you look at something like restaurant relief. the house passed a bill that had comprehensive restaurant relief that would help restaurants of all sizes and all types stay afloat and they are generally small businesses in our neighborhoods that have really felt the brunt of the covid economic crisis. the republican proposal coming out of the senate is that we should allow deductions for two m martini lunches. that's got i thiing to save the bistro. it continues to be the focus we have seen since the start of the pandemic. the senate is making proposals that will bail out large corporations and the house is focused on keeping people safe. >> let's move to discussion

about presidential pardons as multiple sources are telling nbc news that president trump has been discussing the controversy possibility of issuing pre pre-emptive par dodons for hims and family members. what are your thaoughts in. >> the president's pardon power is contained in constitution. the president has the power to grant pardons except in case of impeachment. i guess that's one he won't be granting. this is an administration that came in grifting. i know we heard that the president's daughter, ivanka was deposed in a suit involving the misuse of the inaugural fund for the 2018 or 2019 inauguration. this is an administration that came in grifting and it appears it will leave the same way.

>> ivanka said this was a misuse of government funds and it was a political partisan attack on her and on the trump family. i presume that's not how you see it? >> i was sworn in in november 2018. i came in on a special election. i got sworn in a bit early. as i was sworn in, all these stories were breaking about what had actually happened with that inaugural fund when the president came into office. what we learned at that time was that, first of all, they raised more money than any inaugural fund in history. i think it was m will double what the obama inauguration had raised before. in addition to bringing in very large sums of money b, it was unclear where the money came from. it came out that some came from foreign nationals which is not allowed under our laws. there also was no transparency

about where the money went. it was really unclear giving an inauguration that was smalling than others had been in the past, how they managed to over spend so much money. the past few years we had this trickle of information coming out including disclosures that there was gross overpayment for events that were scheduled to occur at the trump hotel. with all that in mind, the first bill i drafted when i got to congress and was passed as part of hr1 was the inaugural fund integrity act to try to put some guardrails around inaugural spending which, unfortunately, we seem to need now. it had not been an issue in the past. >> yeah. i think a lot of people in this country became very familiar with the word emoluments clause. do you think anybody will ever have to be held responsible for all those investigations, for the things they uncovered and

misspending funds by over charging, however you want to categorize that. >> there's certainly is the effort, the deposition that took place was in a case that's been brought in the district of columbia so it's not a u.s. attorney's case. a pardon might not apply there. there are parallel investigations going on in the southern district of new york and other jurisdictions, maryland, virginia on a variety of emoluments issues. if there are no pardons then there could be liability down the road and if these actions take place in state court then there could be liability down the road. >> absolutely. pennsylvania congresswoman, thanks. nice to see you. with hopes high that covid vaccine will soon be ready, we speak to a 16-year-old participant in pfizer's vaccine trial. her take on the process, coming your way, next. coming your way, next concrete is fundamental to every structure. [music playing throughout]

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now the latest fact tons coronavirus pandemic, there are more than 14.4 million confirmed cases here in the u.s. and more than 280,000 deaths. that toll making coronavirus the leading cause of death in the united states. this week, the u.s. recorded more than 11,000 covid deaths. the cdc director has a warning for americans ahead of the end of the year holiday gatherings and upcoming winter months. coronavirus death rates are likely to increase. >> the reality is december and january and february are going to be rough times. i actually believe they will be the most difficult time in the public health history of this nation. largely because of the stress that's going to put on our health care system. >> a professor at johns hopkins

university is calling it operation turtle speed. criticizing moving at a slow pace while americans are dying from the virus. on sunday night, a new stay at home order goes into effect across california's bay area. scott cohn is stapdsing by. another welcome. we have the governor saying that a new lockdown would take place if regional icu bed capacity fell below 15%. what's happening there in san jose? if do you live in california, you'll be looking at new restriks come tomorrow night. we can sort of unpack this a little bit. this place where it's been down

as low as 10%. coming in on 20th deaths in california. here is how the state breaks down by region. you can see the bay contrary which is sort of a broadly defined is about 21% but within that are pockets. most bay area counties will start with these new restricti n restrictions starting tomorrow night and down in southern california you can see they may go into effect as well. no more indoor or outdoor dining at restaurants. things like that as they try to keep the hospitals manageable. here, one of the icu nurses told me that they do have experience now dealing with the disease. they went through the first surge in march but she says that does not make the next few weeks or mons aths any less dauntsing. >> i am fearful to see what will happen.

whether there will be a spike after christmas remains the be seen. i'm hopeful that people will practice their best judgment. i'm also hopeful people will stay encouraged because there's a light at the tunnel. >> that liegght at the end of t tunnel is the vaccine. we are still months away from that for most of the community, most op tf the population. they are stress whag thing what have been stressing. >> absolutely. our colleague telling me folks like you and me, march we would be lucky. april more like you and i can get vaccination. thank you. the last phase of pfizer's trial started in july. since then, more than 43,000 people have been enrolled to participate. half of them are over the age of 56. with the expansion of the trial

in september, now many participants are teenagers. my next guest is one of those people. joining me is 16-year-old melanie who is part of pfizer's coronavirus vaccine trial. hey, to you. also with us dr. patel. melan melanie, we'll go to you first. tell me what this was like and how did it come about? >> it was awesome. my parents first did it which inspired me to then partake in it as well. i really understood they need people like me. people of color and of my age group to be represented in order for the public to feel comfortable when it's add ministered. they were extremely supportive as well as my friends and family. every one really respected my decision and i felt safe and comfortable in the trial. >> i can say right now you're the coolest kid in your neighborhood. that's for sure. how about you and your parents? how are you feeling? have you experienced any side

effects from the vaccine? are you worried at all about that? >> no. i understand the hesitation. we haven't -- this is a scary time. we haven't had a covid-19 ever before. me and my parents are just really trusting science here which is important and continuing to wearing our masks and self-hygiene as well. i think every one is super helpful. >> dr. patel, i don't know about you but i'm almost proud listening to melanie and the way she is explaining everything. how common is it for someone so young to participate in a trial like this and why is it so important this time? >> yeah, alex, thank you. melan melanie, is a she-ro. i hope she pursues a career in science and public health. it's going to be our future -- our future will really depend on people like her. i'm proud to be on this panel with her. i will just say that it is incredibly difficult to think about vaccinating children for reasons that are obvious but, alex, here is the good news.

pfizer, as melanie is proof of has already started 12 and older and moderna just several days ago received approval from the fda to expand their trial to include children 12 and older. what we will expect over the next several months is to see that age range carefully but augmented. we'll start the see younger children as the safety profile is managed. what this means when you were just having that excellent commentary about who will sever a vaccine when. it's highly likely that younger children will be in the last groups because we're going be waiting for that important trial data to come. what we saw with melanie and her colleagues that are over the age of 12 getting vaccinated is really to understand the effects of this vaccine in the adolescent group and then we'll move to next age group, so on and so on. pregnant women still haven't been studied. that remains to be seen about

the effect offens of the vaccin pregnant women. >> we're talking about age, melanie and just reiterating, no side effects for you. no side effects for your parents thus far, which is great to hear. you brought up a really important point and that is you want to participate in this trial because communities of color are impacted by this virus as everybody else is. how does it feel to be part of such an important trial and the specifics to that group? >> it's awesome. being a voice for people like me and seeing them just like kind of look up to me and feel more encouraged and comfortable to get this vaccine. health disparities were pre-covid and with covid added in, it's impacted communities of color even more. i'm proud to be a representative for people of color. >> absolutely. dr. patel, public health perspective wise.

diversity in a vaccine trial is incredibly important especially for a virus that has so disproportionately impacted certain groups. how confident are you that pfizer, moderna, anyone else who is attempting to put a vaccine out there is doing this appropriately? >> i have to give credit to the manufacturers especially the ones that have currently been applying for the fda. they have made it a point to try to enroll and hit enrollment target that are exceedsing expectations for diversity in population. there has been moderna been careful to include ethnic groups. that's not been done well. i will give incredible credit where it's due for the manufacturers trying to be considerate. you can put those expectations out there. i want the make a point. melanie is very brave.

they don't know what they got. they could have gotten the place placebo. they could have gotten the vaccine. we have to have them be randomized. she knows she got a shot. she got two but we don't know which one. i think that's an important highlight that we're going to continue to see americans enrolling in trials around the world and we will need to have those randomized trials where someone will get a placebo and some will get a vaccine so we can understand the impact. >> drchl patel. you're right. melanie and her family are very braver. we should say that melanie's parents are both doctors. they get it. what has it been like seeing them work through this pandemic and how has that impacted you and your family? >> yeah, it's been hard but it's also given me insight to all the people in the united states and around the world that have risked their lives with people with underlying health diseases as well. i think it makes me even more grateful to know that we're just so grateful to have people like

them that can continue to work hard during this pandemic which is why this vaccine is so important. >> well, dr. patel, i always thank you. melanie extra special thanks to you. thanks. in a momentum, some breaking news out georgia involving president trump's desperate to overturn the election. ristles that can leave cleaning gaps and wrap hair. so shark replaced them with flexible power fins to directly engage floors and dig deep into carpets. pick up more on every pass with no hair wrap. shark vertex with duoclean power fins.

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the washington post reports president trump called georgia governor bryan remp urging him to persuade the state legislature to overturn president-elect joe biden's victory in state. the president will be rallying later on today with david perdue. this is big news. what do we know about this call? >> reporter: that's right. this is an extraordinary step taken by the president trying to call the republican governor of

georgia, someone who he has been attacking and going after in the last couple of weeks. telling him to overturn the results of the election, the make sure that it's in his favor. we know that joe biden won the state of georgia. he was the first democrat to do so since bill clinton's win in 1992. the president has consistently been focusing on this state saying there needs to be signature matching which is a complicated process of asking the state to confirm the signatures on these ballots match the ones that are in the system. he's opinion going after the republican secretary of state in georgia and the governor calling them republicans. putting that in quotation marks. saying they are not doing enough to help him in this process. this all comes as the president is supposed to be here in mere hours campaigning for senators perdue as they are up against this giant senate run off election that's taking place in just a month. it's putting republicans here in the state in a very tricky situation where they can't tell

the president no. he's been attacking governor bryan kemp. we saw a poll come out saying his standing among republican voters is already going down in part because of trump's attacks. these senate candidates are kind of playing this game where they are having to go along with trump while also acknowledging and needing that support from his base. telling republican voters to come out and make sure they cast their ballots even though you see the president saying the election was rigged, fraudulent and providing no evidence to back that up. there's a light l tight rope being woven here. a bit of infighting going on and a lot of mixed messages is a generous way of putting it. >> okay. thank you very much. let's just reiterate this was breaking news in the washington post. nbc news has kwyet to confirm t con tents of that call. we appreciate that reporting. coming up next, the 50th anniversary of doonesbury.

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that covers everything from watergate to trump in is massive. this is a christmas present waiting to be wrapped. it's impressive. tell me, in terms of the other gyps of this, how did doonesbury growing from being a college gig, something thought you would do for couple of years to running half a century. >> i was recruited in college. i had none of the multiple careers switch backs that are so common among my kids and their peers. i've worked for one company. most of that time for one boss who is kind of enough to give me a half century of gainful employment. i don't find the work any easier for having done it all that long. it's now i'm doing less of it. a few years ago i stepped aside from the daily and started working in television and then the grand kids came along and

there was no turning back. >> why does it not get easier with time? you clearly know how to find something. how does it not become easier. you think it would roll off. what are the big challenges? >> i know how to do it but there's no rushing whatever my particular creative process is. it just comes when it comes. for years people have said what do you do when you run out of ideas because a comic strip is like a public utility. you have to do 365 days a year and you have no choice but the show up. when people ask me that, i always thank them for not noticing. those are the weaker ideas.

>> donald trump has been a staple for decades now. you alluded to him running to office before he run himself. here is one strip back from 1987. what was it that made you project the future? >> he had been a staple of the comedy industry for several years in new york city, in particular. we had already baked him into our business plans. this just was an opportunity to jump in. he had taken out full page ads in several prominent newspapers espousing his views on foreign policy and china. only then it was the japanese laughing at us and ripping us off. a lot of people forgot he god run for president in 2000 as well. i was used to writing about him. i had been writing about him for 30 years when he made the run

that was successful. he and his family were in the sights of not just me but pretty much everybody in big satire. we're onto him at an early date. >> which is why you said there's never been the slightest danger of running out of inspiration from president trump. as president, i want to show a look at one of your upcoming strips about the upcoming inauguration. given the number of potential topics, what does it take to become a doonesbury cartoon strip. >> it was a inauguration fantasy sequence. i didn't know who it would be. i just drew in a unisex hand. he is being sworn in and pledges on the bible he won't use twitter. many the last panel trump tweets out that he's a loser.

>> it's so funny. >> lewser. that's funny. >> it never occurred to me that trump might sit out the inauguration. we don't know whether he will be there or not. the strip is siems, i'm given more credit. >> did you ever think you would have the kind of influence you did. you created change with the d n doonsebury bill. tell me the back story of the controversy. how did that help low wage service employees in palm beach. i mean wow. >> that was base on an item i

spotted deep in some article. it kind of blew me away. the entire work force had to register with the police within 48 hours of taking the job. they had to go down to the police station. they paid a registration fee. then they were issued a photo id card which they were required the carry at all times. i wrote a couple of weeks of strips comparing it to south ka africa's past laws which litigated by the township. palm beach did fight back. a judge found it unconstitutional. this bill was introduced in the senate to ban florida cities from requiring blue collar workers to register with police. it passed unanimously. it was signed by the government. >> pretty extraordinary there.

>> i should add this is an outlier. the strip once in a while moves the needle on some issue basket satire is a form of public shaming. for most part that's aspirational. >> let me ask you real quick about guilty, guilt, guilty. it didn't run in lot of pamps. why wasn't it rin in. >> it was dropped bay number of them including my flagship paper, the washington post because even a cartoon character who is fictional by definition shouldn't be allowed to pre-judge a suspect before conviction which sounds pretty quantity by current norms.

>> gary, it's so fun to talk to you. talk about a fan. i've been a fan like forever. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> for coming to talk with me. good luck with this. it's a big thing but it's an impressive gift for who days. it really is. gary, best of look with it. thank you so much. good to see you. >> thank you. the new south versus the old south how it might play out in georgia runoffs. tiffany cross, officially my colleague, talks about it and a lot more. next. talks about it and a lot more next tide pods ultra oxi one ups the cleaning power of liquid. can it one up whatever they're doing? for sure. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains. any further questions? uh uh! one up the power of liquid with tide pods ultra oxi. you work hard for your money. stretched days for it.

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i'm happy to have tiffany cross joining me, author of "say it louder," so dplad you're here and i'm glad to know you were on with jason earlier, don't bust her last saturday off by making her come and talk to me. but anyway, look, we're going to get to your new show in a second, you were born in cleveland, ohio, grew up in atlanta, we're sharing that with our viewers. i want to get your take on this breaking "washington post" report, that president trump called governor brian kemp today to pressure him for help overturning biden's win. how do you interpret that? >> this is to ridiculous, but also predictable. i think this has been one thing that donald trump has been very consistent about, everything that he threatened to do on the campaign trail, he did. everything he threatened to do leading up to this election cycle he's doing. we shouldn't make light of this. alex, what we're witnessing is a coup. this is someone trying to stage

a coup. and he is really exposed some of the fragility in our guardrails of democracy. i was telling jason earlier i didn't grow up trusting the system. i grew up distrusting the system. and i think the trump family and what we've experienced the past four years, alex, have been the human embodiment of why we don't trust the system. a lot of our trust depends on norms instead of laws and we have seen that he is certainly disrupted our social norms and morays when it comes to the political landscape. 70 plus million people voted for him. it could have been a tight race, and luckily it wasn't. i won't be relieved until january 20th. >> a lot of people feel that way. let me ask about politico's analysis runoff, it pits the old south against the new south. what's your read? is race playing an outsized role here? >> i think that headline is a collection of a bunch of

euphemisms. they're saying the old south was known for being very racist and perpetuating white supremacy and celebrating bigotry. you're seeing now with the change of demographics, sometimes when we talk about these things and people say rural voters, as though, you know, some folks think that's only white people but you have black and brown people who live in rural areas. when donald trump made the comment about sush suburban women, as though people of color don't live in the suburbs. in georgia alone the immigration population there jumped 84% in a period of eight years, and of course black voters are, you know, pretty much the base in many parts of georgia. but asian-american and pacific islander voters take up a huge -- i think almost 300,000 voters there. >> 100%. you're very right there. as you like to say, time flies when you're trending, tiffany. but before i let you go, because my time's almost up and you're going to learn all about that.

tell us what we can expect on your new show. give me that in about 15, 20 seconds. >> it's going to be great. i won't even waste time. just tune in, it's going to be awesome. i want to say to you, alex, every time i hosted you had words of encouragement for me. i want to take the time to thank you for that. it made me feel very confident when i sat in that seat you were always so lovely to me. thank you for that and folks can tune in to see how awesome the show is going to be and i'm looking forward to talking to you at the end of it. >> i said it for good reason. meant every word. so glad we're going to be neighbors now, it's awesome. have a good saturday afternoon now off, clear until next week. catch tiffany cross on her new show next saturday at 10:00 eastern. and jonathan on sunday at 10:00. that's a wrap, everyone, for me, i'm alex witt, thanks for watching, yasmin vossoughian is next, a look at ppp loans.

good afternoon, everybody, i'm yasmin vossoughian. we've got a lot of ground to cover in the two hours ahead, including some breaking news, reporting from the "washington post" revealing a new effort by the president to overturn the will of the voters in the state of georgia just hours before he holds a campaign rally in the state. we're going to have the details in a couple of moments. plus, covid cases