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has to say. as always we begin with the coronavirus. public health spishls issuing a stark warning saying the next three months to be quote the most difficult in public health history this. as coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths increase at alarming rates nationwide. as of this morning, confirmed coronavirus cases in the united states -- look at this -- stand at 14,654,012 since the onset of the pandemic. the death toll has risen to 281,960. these record break numbers coming as a trio of promising vaccine candidates appear poised to offer americans some defense against this deadly virus which has gripped the nation for the past ten months. health care workers deal with the reality that is in front of them now every single day. >> when the news says we have reached a new death toll, i
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don't understand that. but as a frontline health care worker, i can understand and i can describe the sound the zipper on a body bag makes. >> that's the reality we are living in at this moment. let's turn now to the moderning's other top headlines. members of president-elect biden's transition team are scheduled to meet with key intelligence leaders at the pentagon on monday. the "washington post" reporting acting defense secretary christopher miller issued a statement saturday denying that the pentagon has denied giving the biden team access to those agencies or information about their operations and budgets. meantime, donald trump appeared at rally in georgia lending his support to the republican senate
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candidates loeffler and perdue for their runoff. but he took the opportunity to cast doubt about last month's election. >> the swing states we are all fighting over right now i won them all by a lot. i won them all. and i have to say, if i lost, i would be a very gracious loser. if i lose, i would say i lost, and i would go to florida, and i would take ate eait easy and i go around and i would say a did a good job. but you can't ever accept when they steal and rig and rob. can't accept it. >> if i lost, i would be a gracious loser, i says. just for the record, donald trump did lose. he lost. that's exactly what donald trump losing looks like. earlier in the day on saturday the outgoing president tried again to pressure georgia's republican governor, brian kemp,
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to overturn the states certified and verified and recounted election results. the atlanta county journal reporting quote during a saturday morning phone call from president donald trump governor kemp again refused a request from trump to call a special session of the legislature to somehow overturn the results of the election. this morning i am joining you from the streets of portland, it is part of our ongoing series velshi across america surviving the next wave. we are going to places hit by covid. to get perspectives on how small businesses workers are dealing with the challenges during this unprecedented times. we are trying to shine a light on their efforts and bear witnesses to their pure old-fashioned determination. in just a little bit we will with one of those business
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owners who after losing herself as head chef reinvented herself relaunching a business endeavor during the pandemic. her efforts have proven so far to be pandemic first. let's give you a look at what the crisis looks lick on the ground here. joining me now, an internist at emmanuel hospital in portland. doctor, good morning to you. thank you for joining us so early on the west coast. earlier this week active covid-19 outbreaks were reported at 15 million facilities across oregon. tell us how things are in your hospital. we have to think about thou, too. it is not just the outbreaks out there, it is the idea that people like you are at constachbt risk and when people like you get sick and get covid that affects all of us. >> definitely. thank you so much. you know, coming to work every day -- i have to fit a rubric
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and figure out how to do it. you have to make sure you are dressed right, you have the right equipment. i think about all of my fellow health care workers. we have to make sure every mask is in place, every goggle is in place, every shield is in place. one slipup to mean that we get sick which puts us at risk, our families at risk and all of our patients at risk because health care workers are a finite resource. >> you tweeted at the beginning of this when things weren't as bad as they are now, tonight i reviewed my bill and went over finances with my husband in case i die taking care of patients without the tools i need, the tools trump refuses to give me. are things better when you tweeted your fear of dying on the job treating patients. >> it is tree. i did do that. we did review thing because this was something i never faced. when we had h 1 n 1, or ebola, i was apprehensive, we always had
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the tools we needed. our tools are in place now. that's due to the gumption of the state and local governments there. has been lacking federal government response to this which still puts us at risk. >> what do you think happens for the next -- it might be six months. fauci says probably by june everyone who wants a vaccination will get one. what do the next six months look like to you? >> i want to be honest here. i think we are in for a long haul and i think it is going to be difficult but i know we can do this. america has faced difficult things before. we have come together and helped each other out. and that's what we need to do now. so many people are hurting from financial reasons, housing reasons, distance learning. i know it is hard to ask for more but what we really need right now from everyone is to make it or personal
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responsibility to stay at home. only go out for essential things, and when you do go out, to wear a mask. >> doctor, thank you for the work that you are doing. and the work that you continue to do for us. we are so grateful for you and others, particularly at the emmanuel hospital in portland, oregon and across this country. joining us now is oregon's democratic representative suzanne juan myrtle beachy. she sits on new mexicoious committees including education and labor. she is a leading member of several caucuses, the nursing caucus and the small business caucus included which makes you uniquely relevant to the discussions we are having today. good to see you again. >> thank you. >> you and i have not talked since the days whenever night in this city was a dangerous thing. there were conflict between the people and the federal agents in
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this city. the federal agents are gone but the tension in the city still exists. why is that? >> thank you for the invitation. there continue to be tensions in the city. black lives matter. we have to remember why people were protesting and some continue to protest. we need to take action. also, ali, as you noted, this is a very stressful time for people. i had a telephone town hall meeting yesterday and i can hear it in the voices of people. there are many things that came together to create this stress. of course the covid-19 pandemic, and very concerned about the numbers that you are talking about. but also, the horrible death, the murder of george floyd and breonna taylor and many others. and we had terrible wildfires here in the pacific northwest. all of these things together are creating that kind of stress. i tell you, yesterday i had a senior citizen from portland say, i got that $1,200 a few months ago but that didn't last
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very long and i need help having somebody deliver my groceries. i talked to someone who lives not far from here who said i am home with my kids. i can't work because i can't find child care. it is so hard to find child care. i am terrified if my unemployment benefits run out at the end of the month. last month i heard about a restaurant closing in astoria west of here in the area i represent. they depend on tourism. people can't visit. the commercial fishing industry sells to a lot of restaurants and a lot of restaurants are closing. it is a stressful time for people. we really need the senate to act. the house has passed bills to help address these problems. we need the senate to act as well. i listened to the doctor. i share the concern about our frontline workers out there every day without adequate ppe. >> so you -- you and the house
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did pass a bill in october. >> right. >> looks like we might be getting close to another bill. >> correct. >> you are on the ground. we have been out here talking to small businesses. they are running out of money. the unemployment money will run out at the end of the month. why is it that our united states senators -- do they not live amongst people? do they not have restaurants? do they not talk to working people? how is it that the senate has not passed this. i wish i could answer that question ali because it is really concerning. we passed the hero's act back in may because we are listening to people in communities. my mom was a small business owner. i know how hard small business owners work and they are struggling. i met with several of them in hillsborough, west of portland. these things are regional. just south of here, wine country. they are small businesses, they have tasting rooms, they are struggling. plus some of them have smoke
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damage and can't have a crop this year. we listened to them, that's why we passed the hero's act in may, and again in october. here's another chance that the senate will take that up. >> you are hopeful it will get done. >> i am hopeful. if they listen to people the way that i and my colleagues in the house have listened, they will recognize there is a need. there is a light at the end of the tunnel. >> there is some distance to end of the tunnel. >> there is distance to the end of the tunnel. if we don't get that aid pack an out, the woman who was terrified, the city official in one of the coastal cities said that we need that aid because we don't have enough to keep your public services going if we don't have that state and local aid in the hero's act that we passed. >> thank you for talking about the fires. we are going to be talking about that as well, another matter that is overshadowed. >> right. on top of everything else we had the fires and the smoke damage
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and lives and structures lost. it has just been a really tough time. the senate needs to recognize that. we need to help these u.s. small businesses, the individuals, the workers who are out there trying to do the right thing and work. but many of them are taking care of small children. child care is a huge issue. i have had teachers tell me -- remote learning -- of course we want students back in school but i have had teachers tell me a lot of their high school and middle school kids are logging on with babies and toddlers in their lap because they are taking care of younger siblings. >> unbelievable. >> we desperately need the senate to act. >> congresswoman thank you for joining us so recall this morning. suzanne ban amicia of oregon. lets more velshi across america. we will talk about the fires in the pacific northwest. and later in the show, our panel of experts is back with me.
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if you are a small business owner or a worker and you have questions how to survive the next few months email me, my story at velshi.com. our panel may give you some answers on air. first the state of oregon. let's talk about the wildfires. have seen one of the most destructive wildfire seasons on record this year. and the worst is yet to come. we will explain after the break. . but we didn't stop there. we made a cloud flexible enough to adapt to any size business. no matter what it does, or how it changes. and we kept going. so you only pay for what you use. because at dell technologies, we stop...at nothing. ♪ who knows where that button is? i don't have silent. everyone does -- right up here. it happens to all of us. we buy a new home, and we turn into our parents. what i do is help new homeowners overcome this.
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from many of us, 2020 has felt like a raging hell scape. well, on the west coast where i am right now you would be forgiven for taking that description literally. wildfires torched their way from oregon to washington, california and colorado. oregon had a particularly devastating wildfire season, more than 1.2 million acres burned across the state this year. that doubles the ten year average of 557,000 acres.
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southern california is on fire as we speak. residents who had been told to stay home because of the pandemic are now making hasty investigation plans to escape the flames that are burning out of control. officials say it could last through the week. wildfires feed off of dryness, wind, and you guessed it, heat. 2020 is on track to be the third hottest year on record. no coincidence by the way the planet is overheating. human-caused climate change is holding the flame. the united nations released an apocalyptic climate report last week. here are a few of the down right horrifying records we have broken in 2020. 30 atlantic named tropical storms and hurricanes. 12 that made land fall in the united states. the aptly named death valley in california hit 129 degrees fahrenheit. the hottest temperature the world has seen in 80 years. central europe experienced
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extensive drought including a 43-day dry spell in ian geneva, switzerland. and record ffrs in the arctic. the arctic. a heat wave in siberia culminated at 100 degrees fahrenheit, a country with an average annual temperature of 23 degrees. are you listening yet? if not, the u.n. secretary general has a stark warning for the world. he says, quote, to put it simply, the state of the planset broken. dear friends, humidity is waging war on nature. this is suicidal. nature always strikes back. and it is already doing so with growing force and fury. end quote. there is no messing with mother nature. but as they say, hell hath no furry like a woman scorned. speaking of women, i am excited to talk to my good
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friend rachel maddow in just a few minutes. she has a new book on the corruption and crookedness of spiro agnew of the richard nixon era. stick around. she is coming up about 25 minutes from now. after this break i am going to speak to a portland restaurant own who are figured out how to stay afloat during a pandemic. here's herred a mice from diane lamb of sunshine noodles to other business owners. >> finding a crew that you can empower and work that into your business model might ensure a little bit more of a -- you know, like a -- i guess integrated system, you know, where everyone feels like they have the say to do what's best and feel supported. frustrated that clothes
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this week, velshi across america continues in portland, oregon, where small businesses have been hart hit by the pandemic and the ongoing protests throughout the city. business owners have taken to pivoting their models and finding new ways to stay afloat while they wait for either relief from congress or the end of the pandemic. diane lam from sunshine moodles has shifted her business and made an effort to adapt and stay nimble in the uncertainty. joining me now from portland, oregon s diane lam, owner of sunshine noodles. welcome to you. thank you for being here. i want to talk to you about what happened. you were planning to open a restaurant when covid hit. what happened then? >>. [ indiscernible ]
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-- surprise people. i have always [ indiscernible ] we built based around what people needed and what businesses need to do in order to reflect the changes. and honestly, it was a lot easier to create something to accommodate instead of bend something that existed to accommodate. >> now, one of the things that you did, which is interesting -- obviously for every business owner cash flow is the big issue. how do you -- if you don't have the money coming in how do you deal with it? you did two interesting things. you and your partner took on a lot of the costs on your credit card. instead of having to deal with payroll you got involved with a profit sharing mechanism. how does that work. >> it was one of those things that we had to realistically
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look at and and know there were things we could do and things we don't do and work our way back from that. the profit sharing model was the best way that we saw that would accommodate the talent that we had without compromising, you know, just -- just not knowing how much money we would have to spend towards labor. so instead, we knew that we would just end up dividing the profit. it was just a mutually beneficial thing. and we didn't realize it at the time but when we did it it ended up being a positive thing for everyone. >> diane, one of the words we overused today when talking about portland is community. if you come to port from somewhere else you get a sense that it is a community. to the extent that people want small businesses to thrive in their neighborhoods, they want those businesses to continue buying from flyers and employing
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people, how do you get the message out the to people that they can support you? what is the way in which you have that discussion with your commune of clients? >> i guess the engagement is the most important thing. if you start engaging with the people around you, start utilizing them as resources to help and to be helped and just kind of create this cycle, there is going to be an ongoing rapport what have needs to be done, what other people need, and just like the cause and reaction type of situation. i have worked in many places across the nation. and portland is one of the places where i feel gets that right. we constantly communicate. we are constantly on the same initiative and concept of how to best put our foot forward. so it's -- it's been a really
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enriching experience just to have portland at my community. >> diane, congratulations on being nimble and staying nimble and thank you for the lessons that we are learning from you. continued good huluck. i hope to see you on the other side of covid in whatever business you choose to be in at that point. diane lam is the owner of sunshine noodles in portland, oregon. coming up, our experts take your questions on navigating the pandemic. and later rachel maddow will join us to talk about her book on one of the biggest crooks in america's political history. speaking of crooks, last night "saturday night live" took on how ridiculous the trump administration is for pursuing these lawsuits and that rudy
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during this time. joining me are della clark and jason pfeiffer. della is president and ceo of the enterprise center. and jason is editor in chief of entrepreneur magazine and host of a podcast. welcome back to both of you. i am a jazz guitarist playing restaurants all across michigan. i have lost many gig this is year due to the virus. just as it was starting to pick up restaurants had to close again. i was able to get an sba loan, but it granted me half of what was possible. unemployment is helpful but it is not enough to survive on and it is going to be running out in a couple of weeks. joe biden will help but what about until then. life will be a little bit back
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to normal in six months or so. what do people who are talking about a couple of hundred dollars a month do? >> i want to encourage not to think of yourself as an artist but instead think of yourself as a problem solver. what problems can you solve right now. when you were playing in venues, you were drawing in crowds for the business owner. you were solving the problem of atmosphere for the people who were there. what problems can you solve now? i want to give you a story of somebody in your field who i think did it well. meg o'hara used to do landscape paintings for ski resorts. it was going well until ski resorts had to close in the beginning of the pandemic and she lost all of her business. she thought, i met all of these skiers at these resorts, they would like services at home. she contacted them and offed her services and told them to tell
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five friends who ski. this led to a ton of businesses multiples larger than the business she did before and now she says that her business has fundamentally changed because now she can go directly to the consumer. how can you think differently about the problems you can solve with your artistry? podcasts out there all want music. sample and sell those. teach guitar. if you reach out to people did you are transparent -- be open, look i am struggling, i am talented, i would love to help you in whatever way possible. i think you can find some money, redefine your business in some way that might actually be there, another revenue source for you once the world opens back up. >> a great idea, figuring out what skills you have and how else they might be applied. della the last guest i had on talked about the fact she
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couldn't make payroll in her pivoted business so entered into a profit sharing agreement with her employees. how feasible is that? how widespread could it become? >> i thought it was a brilliant idea. i want to thank you for having me on the show today because i think the issues that you are bringing forth are exactly right, the issue that people have all over america. and just like the noodle business, she was able to pivot and come up with this brilliant idea. i think other small businesses should look at the same idea because everyone who is challenged with meeting payroll and having insufficient capital. i do want to let you know that i was part of a group that coauthored a challenge around big ideas for small business. and i think what we need in america is a new national landscape for small businesses. what we have in place is not working. as you go across the country you will find these challenges all over america. this is a call to action. >> and that's a really good
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point. jason, you are editor in chief of a mag zeep that talks with entrepreneurship. we know it is in our dna as americans. but what we don't register is how these people -- i was talking to ian at the coffee shop yesterday. you can't give up when you are a business owner, i have got 11 bucks left in my cash register. i can't make payroll. i can't make rent. people have to present this remarkable face to the public but both business owners i have spoken to this weekend said be transparent, with our employees, with your landlord, with your bank and be transparent with your community because they may come the your aid if they know you are in trouble. >> that's absolutely right. this has been an extremely challenging awful time but i think some good things are going to come out of it. one of them is that transparency has risen to the top. i think it is something we need to keep carrying forward even after this moment.
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we have found we don't have to hide our struggles as entrepreneurs n. fact when we communicate with our employees, with our teams and when we are open with people about what we are going through and what we need from them they really do step up. i don't think that you can be too transparent during this time. and over and over again i heard from entrepreneur who is tell me that they have started new kinds of relationships. they are closer with teams. their teams have sometimes even stepped sprint cup taken pay cuts, volunteered to take pay cuts because they understood that the wyss was in trouble. this is what we need to do now and need to do going forward. >> della let's talk about the other side of thing, us, those of us who are not business owners who now really have to make decisions when we walk into a shop who say do i choose to go into a shop that will be out of business if i don't do business with them? maybe we have to make choices as americans and say all shops are not created equal. small shops needs our attention because they employ people who
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will be out of work and that business will go out of business and that spot will be empty. do we have to think about that as consumers? >> absolutely. we to harness our purchasing power and spend that with small businesses. ali, they are in serious trouble in america. our capital and how we spend our dollars are so important to help these small businesses stay afloat as we go through this recovery. i don't think we can get these vaccines fast enough to save our economy. we are going to have to depend on federal relief, state relief, city relief, and all of us as consumers can direct our dollars toward small business. it is imperative that we step up in america to save our small businesses because they're the heartbeat of america. >> it is part of the reason why i am in portland. if you go downtown to portland, what you see is a city that is built on small businesses f. those small businesses disappeared, the buildings would all be empty, the streets would be empty. do this now.
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the payback for society will be so great if you do your part to save these businesses the millions of people that they employ. della clark, great to see you. della is the president of the enterprise center. jason fire is the editor in chief of entrepreneur magazine. joining us in a few minutes, rachel maddow. her book comes out this week that focuses on a scandal that rocked the nation. it is not the one you are thinking of. before we go to break dr. deborah birx the white house task force leader joined my colleague and pleaded with americans to shape up their behavior as infections surge across this country. >> there isn't a state without increasing cases right now except hawaii. so this is where we fine ourselves. and we have to listen right now to what we know works, which is
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whether or not their president is a crook. well, i'm not a crook. i have earned everything i've got. >> those words from richard nixon, the 37th u.s. president, went down in infamy and became an ironic motto for his presidency. nixon resigned within a year of making that statement because he was in fact a crook and was later pardoned by his successor,
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gerald ford. but there was another crook in the nixon administration that doesn't get nearly enough attention, august 9th, 1973, the it inially news leading its broadcast with information on vice president spiro agnew. >> agnew is being investigated in connection with allegations of political kickbacks in maryland. he is the highest ranking official ever to be investigated by a federal prosecutor. but because no previous sitting vice president has ever been investigated, the lawyers on both sides are going slowly. >> that scandal eventually led to agnew's resignation in october of that year. his demise is the subject of rachel maddow's new book, "bag man," which is based off of her hit podcast series of the same name. it follows the incredible story the former vice president who many has described as trump before trump. the story of his corruption in
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1973 was the most egregious and public scandal of any u.s. official. however, it was quickly overshadowed by nixon's own malfeasance in watergate. agnew's tenure and his subsequent down fall are quite reminiscent of the guy who will be out of a job in exactly 45 years. he was a pop you list declaring war on enemies and let's not forget, a blatant racist. the book is called "bag man." joining me now for the very first tv interview about her new book my friend msnbc's own rachel maddow. rachel, thank you for being with us. i am excited about the launch of this book. i want to talk to you about the parallels because many people see spiro agnew as trump before trump. you write in your book, quote, his default setting was attack
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mode. he cheerfully derided liberals, the establishment, ivory tower professionals, and the press. it wasn't that he was prost la advertising for his own cause, instead he made a marquee act out of just taking a flame thrower to the other side. it is easy to see the similarities between agnew and trump. i am wondering what were the differences between the two men? >> well, agnew got run out of washington on a rail. instead of just being voted out of office. seeing that video, seeing nixon in that era it seems like such a more genteel time. and agnew was a much more eloquent and articulate version of trump i would say. not to cast dispersions on our
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current president but agnew used long words and long sentences with commas in them. it feels different but the impact was the same. he was a raging anti-semite. he was the most adept player of the race card in short of pat buchanan. he was somebody who had no policy goals associated with him really at all. what he did was just tell americans to hate the press, to hate the other side. to degrade them and think of them as incapable of holding power, people who should be destroyed rather than abided. and in that way, like, he really -- he really did sort of pave the way for the kind of trump politics that we're living through now. that's part of the drama. the other part of the drama is him getting caught and what the justice department decided to do about it, which was absolutely -- every step they took was unprecedented and they had to make value judgements and strategic judgements every step of the way. >> yep. >> and it was a lot of hard
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calls. >> so let's talk about how all that went down. when prosecutors from maryland went to the attorney general and told him about the information they had against agnew, the attorney general, elliott richardson said that, quote, the allegations must be fully investigated. that was his quote. this is the attorney general, appointed by president nixon, and that was his policy, which is as you write, quote, nobody above the law, squared. comparati compare that to the current attorney general bill barr and the department of justice. poor bill barr, by the way, might be on the outs himself after carrying every bucket of water donald trump gave him to carry. >> yeah. and, you know, richardson, it's amazing, was only in the office of attorney general for five months. ten days after he arranged to spiro agnew to leave the vice presidency, to resign the vice presidency and thereby save himself a prison term, it was only ten days after that that nixon did the saturday night massacre and forced richardson
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out because richardson wouldn't fire the watergate prosecutor. i mean, in much the same ways that, you know, the president now demands that the attorney general do his bidding, you know, nixon was absolutely incensed that richardson wouldn't just follow him and do exactly what he wanted, no matter how corrupt. but richardson was absolutely incorruptible, and he did fight with his prosecutors and they were worried that agnew should go to jail and that resigning shouldn't be enough, and they fought incredibly hard with agnew's lawyers about whether or not agnew could, in fact, be indicted if he was still a sitting vice president, if he didn't resign. one of the very i think sort of news worthy things that came out of the research in the podcast for the book, it seems like this whole idea that a sitting president can't be indicted sort of came out of the agnew case. came out of a bunch of memos and fighting between nixon and agnew and maneuvering by the two of them that led to strange and not very powerful justice department
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opinions about who can be indicted and who should be impeached instead. that's the basis for rory mcilroy, for example, concluding that trump couldn't be indicted. he couldn't be charged and therefore mueller shouldn't lay out his crimes as crimes, but that was borne out of this weird thing with agnew and the justice department trying to force him out so agnew didn't get el vitaled to the presidency when nixon was forced out for being a criminal. it was just a disaster. >> and when mueller made that decision, he based it on a memo that had been issued by the office of legal counsel. there was a similar memo in your book, the office of legal counsel at the time released a memo prior to agnew's resignation that basically said that his role was that of a cabinet-level position and that it didn't rise to the same level of the president, and, thus, he could be indicted while in office, referring to agnew. it even pointed out that air burr had been indicted for the
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murder of acts dlexander hamilt while he was vice president and obligated the department. did that way of looking at things at the time obligate the department to move forward with an indictment, even though these days we wouldn't move forward with an indictment against donald trump? >> yes. and it's really important to point that out, ali, in exactly the way you did. this whole idea that a president can't be indicted is sort of a carbuncle that grew on the side of the agnew scandal. the reason that happened is nixon's sort of loyalists or officials who believe they needed to kind of serve nixon at this time were really trying to make the argument that, okay, yeah, it's fine if you want to try to go after the vice president, but the president definitely can't be indicted. the whole argument of whether or not the president is subject to the criminal justice system should reasonably have been settled when the supreme court held that nixon had to hand over the tapes, right? nixon didn't want to hand over the white house tapes because he felt like this executive privilege and status as
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president essentially rendered him immune from that. the supreme court unanimously settled that and said, no, dude, you're an american citizen. you're subject to the same criminal laws and statutes binding all of us. but instead because of agnew's legal maneuvering, the maneuvering around the agnew -- what would have been a 40-count felony indictment, we ended up with these memos that i believe ended up saving donald trump's butt, to this day. and keeping him out of -- keeping him away from any risk of jail time, at least for the next 45 days. that all grew out of this mess with agnew. >> rachel, thank you, my friend, for joining me this morning, and thank you for the podcast. which is fantastic. and this book. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's "the rachel maddow show." be sure to check out her new book, it's called "bag man: the wild crimes, audacious cover-up
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and spectacular downfall of a brazen crook in the white house." it will be available for purchase on december the 8th. rachel, thank you again for joining me this morning. and that is a wrap in portland. thank you for watching. next sunday we are taking "velshi across america" to houston, texas. if you have a struggling story in houston, let me mow. a programming note, saturday, december 12th and sunday, december 13th, respectively, tiffany johnson and jonathan capehart will join our weekend morning lineup with premiers of their new shows. this means after nearly five years, jason johnson hosts the final edition of "a.m. joy" this morning. jason will be joined by the new sunday host, the great jonathan capehart, whose next show starts next sunday at 10:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. that does it for me from portland, oregon. have yourselves an excellent sunday.
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i mean, it's looney tunes. the president's literally coming to georgia to campaign for the two same senators who his two former lawyers have filed lawsuits to contest the election with the same claims the president made in his very long 46-midvideo yesterday. i'm speechless. >> good morning and welcome to the final edition of "a.m. joy." i'm jason johnson. with all due respect,
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