battle against the coronavirus pandemic after months of tragedy and crisis, the first glimpse of hope is on the way. at this hour, nearly 200 boxes of covid vaccines are making their way to distribution hubs nationwide. that # where they will be shipped to all 50 states, the first vaccine slated to arrive at 145 sights tomorrow. this morning the director of the national institutes of health reassuring the public. >> i think that there have been few if any vaccines that have ever been subjected to this level of scrutiny. so if you want to look at the facts, i think that you should be very reassured. put aside the noise and all the skepticism that is borne of for for interference from some source or another. that did not determine the outcome. >> and a moment of jubilation at that pfizer facility in michigan this morning as those first

trucks got loaded, applaud broke out honoring the workers who are now part of history eliciting an emotional response from debbie dingle. >> a moment of hope for the country. i'm proud of my fellow michiganders who worked so hard. there was hope everybody worked to egg to help each over. >> and we have our team of reporters spread out across the country covering all the angels for you. in the next couple of minutes, planes carrying the vaccine are expected to land in parts of the country. let's go to morgan chesky, he is in louisville. welcome on this extraordinary day. take us through the process, what is expected over the next couple of hours there? >> reporter: i'll break that down shortly, but if u.p.s. holds to their word here, we were told this plane would be arriving at 12:01, just about 60

seconds ago a 757 one of their most common planes landed right here on the air strip and we did believe at this point in time that this is the plane carrying that first load of covid-19 vaccine after departing michigan earlier today. it is taxiing behind me. we do have another camera the shot if we can take that. i want you to see the historic moment. as it was plained to us by u.p.s., among the doses of vaccines that are on board that jet, some of which will be immediately off loaded here, placed in that deep freeze cold stoshag ag storage that is necessary to keep usable, some of which will be off loaded on to other planes and spent to more than 50 locations nationwide. of course this all part of this growing rollout that is starting in earnest but officials will tell that you they have been planning for this moment for the past several months.

and you can see the plane taxiing behind me. this is u.p.s.' largest hub here, ones officials telling me that almost every shipment no matter where it is coming from will have to come through here before being redistributed out nationwide. so we're keeping a close eye here on what happens with in particular shipment. we'll have a chance to speak with the pilot here in a few minutes. but i want you to hear what the president had to say in a brief of interview a short time ago. >> we deliver millions of vaccines every year, but the scale of this obviously with all the different players and all the ins and outs is on a different level. but we're well versed in it and what we're being asked to do is something we do each and every day. >> reporter: and right now, the first of many historic arrivals here today, we are anticipating that this initial plane will be here on the tarmac for some time, very carefully unloaded. we know that each of these

vaccines in those specially crafted boxes, multiple layers, packed with dry ice, and it also has a bluetooth device inside the box that not only tracks its live location, but it also is able to monitor the temperature. so they are out to make sure that none of these doses are compromised in the least, it is able to hold the incredibly cold 70 below temperature and we can only hope that it goes this smoothly going forward in the next several days. >> 100%. morgan, can you actually see the plane, has it landed, or is that just the taxiway where it will come? because you mentioned 12:01. did it land on final? >> reporter: it landed a minute early, about a minute before we -- before we came. we do have another plane arriving. they are all 757s marked with the u.p.s. low go on the tail. so we didn't have an exact landing at 12:01 as u.p.s. said, we had a landing at 12 eastern

and then another one landing here at 12:04. we'll absolutely lock in which of those jets was the very first one to bring that dose here. but as it stands right now, we know that at least it is believed to be right here in louisville, kentucky ready to go out all over the country. >> i got to say, it is impossible to underscore the significance of what you are witnessing happening. there may be some viewers who are like it is a plane landing. but given what is on board that plane, there has to be a lot of emotion. is that u.p.s. plane? it could be. cl. >> reporter: we do have another landing. yes, this is another one of those 757s. this is the most common plane that u.p.s. uses in their fleet. they have 75 of them all across the country. and we know that either on the plane we witnessed land at 12 even or this plane at 12:04, there is history to be made and

we're all witnessing it right now. >> you sure are. i'm just curious, those folks behind you, they look like they are journalists. but do you have people that have come out like to see this at all? i know that it is a little more remote, you are at an airport and it is hard to get close to an airport for security reasons. but do you get a sense that people are staying glued to what is happening there in louisville? >> reporter: people certainly are aware of what is happening. i will say that we are in a secure location that has been specifically staged for the media. i do know as far as the specifics of this historic landing, u.p.s. has been staying very tight lipped, they wouldn't even share the exact time of the landing until within the past hour for our knowledge. and just goes to show the level of importance that this has not just in the company, but nationwide. we they the military of course assisting in the distribution to some degree here. and some of these doses if not all will of course have escorts

as they go out into the community. >> fedex rolling in behind you, is that another one of those planes? is there a way to eigindicate i plane has the vaccine on board or not? >> reporter: there is no tell tale sign legaling us know if this is a plane caring one of the vaccine shipments. but we know as far as this particular moment, u.p.s. was the only carrier to arrive at around that 12 even time frame. and so between that landing and 12:04, i'm confident that they landed successfully. >> and i suspect that if the fedex plane that we just saw

ends up going to the runway and taking off, it is probably loaded with a lot of christmas gifts from people around this country. meantime, morgan chesky, thank you so much. it is a very exciting time. we'll go there now to that pfizer facility in portage, michigan. talk about new information that i understand you have today. >> reporter: it was about 8:30 when we saw the trucks leave this plant. we had cameras inside that were able to show us kind of the process of workers going from taking trays of this vaccine, vials of the vaccine, out of freezers and very carefully every step packaging them to then put them on the trucks that were here waiting in the loading docks just over my shoulder. about 189 boxes, each of those with a little under 1,000 vials of the vaccine, each were loaded on to trucks that then left this

facility to start making their way to the airports that would then take them to the distribution centers in louisville. and another one in memphis, tennessee. today pfizer says about half a million doses of the vaccine have gone out, there are five doses. in every one of the tiny little vials, so even thoef the boxes don't look huge, there is a lot in there. as we watch the trucks leave here today, there were some people from this community who came out to see them leave and witness this moment as well. there was a bit of cheering. you played some of it as they left. and gabe guttierez spoke to some of the people who were gathered here taking in this moment. listen. >> it feels like there is finally a beginning to the end of this. >> i kind of knew when i saw those trucks rolling that i would be emotional. i have friends scientists at fir pfizer, so i'm some proud of their work. >> it will be over soon. well, not soon, but there is

light finally. there is less darkness and more light and hope that finally people will stop dying. >> reporter: so the 189ish boxes that left this morning, we are told that those would be going to all 50 states, we're told that there will be another shipment. i think that the fedex truck that is in the do being jubeing behind me, i think that they are waiting for the shipment. but there will be some boxes going to the u.s. territories, sending any additional stuff out. the day is done on that. they have sent how much that they will be sending out. tomorrow, we'll see them to do it again and send out a lot more boxes. we saw workers this afternoon already starting that process to package up more doses of this vaccine to get it out to the rest of the country. >> and using a lot of that dry ice we've been seeing.

thank you so much. we'll see you again. let's get a big picture look at all the logistics. joining me from washington, d.c. is tom costello. good to see you. so we have 145 sites, they will receive this vaccine, the packages, tomorrow. layout the details of this extraordinary rollout. first to securities, both for the vaccines, while they are in transit, and then for keeping them in their freezing cold condition. >> so you mentioned 145 sites tomorrow, 425 thursday, another 166 wednesday. and this is ambitious and there is a reason why. "operation warp speed" calls it d-day, he likens to the beginning of the end of world war ii. in this case hopefully thing of the end of this pandemic. and once it gets to individual states and territories, it is up

to those local jurisdictions. so the health state department, county health departments, to all low indicate a all low indi crow sites. so we saw for example.low indic crow sites. so we saw for example. in colorado, they did a dry run. they landed an imagination box if you will at denver international airport, put it in an suv, drove that box up to vail and then put it in a cold storage unit to see how quickly that they could to all of those steps. and for them, it was about four hours. and this is happening all over the country to make sure that they are not wasting anytime at all. because it is important to keep the shipment cold. so by the independent of the we end of the week, the thinking is that they have the initial

allocation of the vaccines to clinics across the country. locals are in charge of actually distributing it. at some point they will go ahead and rely on walgreen's and cvs for example to help vaccinate the people in these priority groups. so in group 1-a, we have frontline medical workers. as well as residents and workers in long term care facilities. nursing homes. so they will be relying on walgreens and cvs to help them. in group 1-b, teachers and emergency responders and food handlers. and then in 1-c, 65 and older and those at risk. so that is the initial prioritization of who gets it and how quickly. but to the point of that group 1-a, i have a family member who works in a hospital and has already been told that they are in 1-a and they would expect to receive the vaccine presumably in the next week to ten days. >> a couple questions.

so 1-a comes soon. how long do you think that it will be between the 1-a group to the 1-c group, any estimation? and also, you talked about that four hour car drive from denver to vail. are there sheriffs, is there police escort? i mean, it is extraordinary that they have done dry runs of just driving, you know, the 100 plus miles from denver to vail. have they done it with also security in tow and will they be having security all this week? >> yeah, so as it results to the shipments on the big u.p.s. and fedex truck, they were under guard from u.s. marshals. they were escorting those trucks to the airports. we have been told earlier that presumably it would be up to local states to decide whether they want state police to escort those shipments in their individual states. to my knowledge, colorado did

not did that o that on the dry . and anybody who spent time in ski season, it can take a heck of a long time to go from denver airport to vail especially in bad weather. so we'll see he how that plays out. as for how soon we might see other groups get the vaccinat n vaccination, the thinking is that we'll probably get into the 1 ds 1-c area probably in late january to february. by then, really by the entd of n month, we'll have two vaccine himse also. we'll have pfizer and moderna. so the hope is that that will roll out even faster. >> what kind of challenges, tom, are hospitals raising red flags about once the vaccine gets there? is it about staffing considering that most of the hospitals we're talking about lately are running, you know, overrun with

icu beds, lack of icu beds and space? i mean, they have so many patients in the hospitals right now. is staffing the issue? is it the refrigeration process that is the issue? and are hospitals confident that they have addressed them? >> in fact somebody just forwarded me an internal email from a hospital in los angeles in which they are talking about how they are very close to being maxed out already in terms of not enough icu beds, doctors and nurses. so yes, that is a key concern. because listen, we start the vaccine, we start tvaccinations the pandemic is not going away overnight. it will take a long time to vaccinate the entire country or 75% to 80% is what we do think we near for herd immunity. as for how cold it can be and how you must keep it cold, once thawed, the vial -- you heard each has five doses.

once thawed, that vial can be kept in a bridge for onfridge f days. so they have to keep it in a deep freezer to begin with. once they bring the vial out, they have five days to actually use it and then it goes bad. moderna's vaccine which we expect by the way to be approved by the fada, it can be kept in regular temp fridge for up to a month. so you can understand why if you are in a big is it i like a denver, straigdetroit, new york, whatever, they have the big hospitals with the deep freezer capabilities. the concern is the outer reaches of the country, whether you are on the outer reaches of wisconsin, alaska, maine, you name it, the far outposts of the country where they may not have that kind of deep freezer capability, so they may be better off with the moderna vaccine that doesn't require the deep freeze. >> i got to tell you, it appears

like every i has been dotted and t crossed. last weekend our colleague was at the corning institute where they were mass producing these vials. the vials are actually special l ly treated glass so there is lack of potential for contamination. even more than they already do to make sure that their products are safe and secure. it really is extraordinary when you think about everything that is going into this so that we bring an end to this pandemic and make our fellow citizens and global citizens safe. thank you so much, tom costello. meantime, everyone, two major losses for the in his quest to overturn the election and now he says he is worried. but are his worries the same as dwrours? and we invite you to watch in just over an hour, your questions and concerns about the covid vaccine answered by a panel the experts at 1:30 eastern. 1:30 eastern. see every delivery...

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the president and his allies are viewing to drag out the results of the election as long as they can. let's go to josh lederman. the president still refusing to accept the results of last month's election. what is he saying today? >> it didnoesn't seem it matterw many times he gets thrown out of court, he is continuing to vow to move forward with the legal challenges, saying now the battle goes to the state court. essentially what the trump team wants to do is take the four states that texas sued, georgia, wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan and instead of having them in the supreme court, litigate those fights in the individual states. but that is a lengthy process and they don't have a whole lot of time with the electoral college set to meet tomorrow to cast their votes for the next president. and in the meantime, the biden team is not exactly losing sleep over whether any of this will succeed. instead, their concern is that

trump is leaving behind a country in which a whole lot of republicans will not think that joe biden won the presidency fair and square. president trump was asked in an interview airing this morning whether he is concerned that he is dividing the country and he had this to say. >> i worry about the country having an illegitimate president, a president that lost and lost badly. this wasn't like a close election. you look at georgia, we won georgia big. we won pennsylvania big. we won wisconsin big. we won it big. >> reporter: to be clear president trump didn't win any of those states. but nemtd, a l in the meantime republicans taking a different view of view saying that they hope that the country will be put first and calling the legal arguments an surity and saying

it is time to move on. >> yeah, it is. thank you so much. joining me now, peter baker. welco welcome. as we look at the article right now, according to the "new york times," which says that handful of republicans are planning to bring a last minute challenge to the house floor in january trying to reverse joe biden's victory. what in the world would that look like? >> like a lot of noise but it won't change the outcome. electors will vote tomorrow. congress of the united states is then charged on january 6 with opening those votes in effect. and tabulating them and recording how the electors have voted. there will be members obviously who will try to protest this. they may delay the proceedings by several hours. but end of the day, this will still be a victory for president-elect biden. >> how about the overall mood of the white house right now, what do you sense that is like? >> kind of a mix i think of

defeated and denial,denial, rig? they are trying to convince the president that it is time to concede. but he says that i will never concede. he is always talking about running in 2024. it is a pretty sour mood there right now. people looking for their next jobs even as they can't admit that they are looking for the next job because that would somehow be seen as disloyal. so a pretty sour moment. >> and we know there disloyalty to this president that usually results in firings. and in fact the last several weeks have revealed fractures in the president's relationship with attorney general william barr. and you recently wrote about it, an article when barr weighing whether or not to leave before trump's term is over. and this morning the president . >> hunter biden this week as confirmed two investigations on him, one on jim biden.

are you disappointed that william barr knew about this? >> who isn't disappointed? joe biden lied on the debate stage. he said there is nothing happening, nothing happening. and bill barr should have stepped up. all he had to do is say an investigation is going on. bill barr frankly did the wrong thing. >> give me a sense at this point of what the significance would be of trump firing bill barr or barr stepping down in the final days of this administration. what kind of message would that send? >> well, it would show once again this is a president who views the justice department as his own personal law firm and the attorney general is his own personal lawyer advancing his political interests. he fired jeff sessions because jeff sessions wouldn't protect him against the russia investigation. bill barr today in and did frame the mueller investigation on terms that president trump liked. and president trump was perfectly happy when he did that. but now that bill bar i go r wo along with the president on some

things, suddenly he is on the outs. so i think that is endemic to how the president looks at the law enforcement system. it is meant to be a tool of his instrument power. >> yeah. okay, pete, again, we got a lot in, i had a few more questions, but given everything that is happening with the vaccines, which is pretty darn exciting, no more exciting than you, but thank you peter baker. meantime hospitals are preparing to vaccinate employees tomorrow, but a poll shows only a third of nurses would take the vaccine. of nurses would take the vaccine. with free curbside pickup, fast delivery from your walmart store, or gifts shipped right to your door. let's end the year celebrating. ♪ walmart makes it easy with groceries, gadgets, and soo much icing. let's end the year deliciously. ♪

i'll be there tuesday morning at university hospital in newark, new jersey. we will begin vaccinating our heroic health care workers. >> we're back with the breaking news, a new snapshot of the next chapter in the pandemic. the governor of new jersey there announcing vaccinations will begin tuesday and soon we'll be hearing from other states as distribution efforts are under way right now. we have hundreds of boxes of the pfizer advantage be evvaccines y

to hubs throughout the u.s. after the roll outofficially hit the road earlier today. the boxes will be shipped to all 50 states with the first vaccine slated to arrive at about 145 sites tomorrow. cori coffin is in memphis. how prepared where they and i got to wonder about the excitement they must feel inside. >> reporter: yeah, those were my first questions to them. what is the preparation process like, how are you feeling, where is your head at. and one of the doctors that we spoke with today -- apologize zs, by the way, sounds like we have a medical helicopter coming in. but they told thaws there is a sense of a wave of relief here. they couldn't tell us when or where that vaccine are l. come in. they couldn't tell me how many doses that they will be receiving. but they did say that they are

prepared and this is something that their frontline workers here at the hospital are more than looking forward to because for them they have had to witness their colleagues not only getting sick, but also some of them even passing away. this is a very real thing for them that every day they don't have this vaccine is another day that they are risking their lives. listen into what one nurse had to tell me about him receiving the vaccine and administering it. >> it is an honor. it is also very humbling. because yes, i'm going to be there and be one of the first to be able to vaccinate one of my colleagues. but it is also amazing, right? it is amazing what science has come up with and how we'll be able to protect other people. >> reporter: speaking of that science, that 94 below that it has to be kept at, those temperatures, the health system here says that they already have the infrastructure in place to keep that. they are ready to go. and they will be prioritizing

the health care workers who work directly with covid patients first and then they will have the rollout after that. it can't come soon enough when it comes to the next rounds because they only have five icu beds available across their fire system. >> yeah, there is the proof in what you said just there. and meantime let's go to the 34 hospitals in the chicagoland area which are waiting for that vaccine with anticipation. jay gray is at rush university medical center in chicago. welcome to you, my friend. so how close are we do seeing the first deliveries there are you are in chicago? >> reporter: you'd have to think because of proximity that they will see some of the first vaccine here in chicago. just about 2 1/2 hour drive from the michigan plant that is shipping out this medicine right now. and so they are prepared. in fact here at rush, they went through a practice round on friday just to make sure the process they have in place is ready. they have turned the main lobby

into huge vaccination center and down the hallway, they have ten individual spots where they will move people in. the vaccination will take place and they will move them out. of course it will start with the highest risk first line health workers here and continue. and this facility also has the deep freeze capability to store the vaccine once it gets there. we talked to them with how that was so important. here is what they said. >> we have for be very precise in our movements and once we take the drug out, we have to move to the refrigerator within a ten month time frame so it doesn't involve into the defr t defrost. if we can defrost it slowly, we get five days of stability. and we want that five days of stability. >> reporter: it is a multilayered process getting the vaccine ready to actually give to those front line workers here. but they feel very prepared

after practicing here. they expect that they will receive somewhere between 2,000 vials. and they plan to do two days of large scale vaccinations here, 1,000 people a day or so. it is voluntary here, but when you talk to those who are inside who have been working the pandemic, what they will tell you is the same thing you are hearing from others. we're ready for this. >> if they get 2,000 vials, they have 10,000 doses to address minister. okay. then they will be happy to get going. thank you so much, jay gray. so with the much needed medical relief on its way for millions 6 us, in washington financial relief for those suffering from the economic impacts of this pandemic, that remains this will in limbo. negotiations are at a standstill with friday's deadline inching closer. joining me now, congresswoman kathleen rice, she sits on the veterans affairs and homeland

security committees. welcome back to the broadcast. always great to see you. before we get into covid relief, can i just get your reaction to this historic moment that we see happening today? we all remember new york was one of the first and hardist hit areas in this country by the pandemic. how significant are the vaccines to those in your district and do you have any information on when the first vaccines in your district can be administered? >> well, thank you so much for having me. and this weekend really represents a reason for all americans to have hope that we are going to be able to eventually crush this virus. new york is slated this weekend to receive 170,000 vaccines. and we expect more in the coming week. we are prioritizing the distribution of that vaccine to people that you would expect. frontline health care workers, nursing home residents and staff, and other health care workers who are at risk.

and then the more vaccines we get, we will get to those with underlying conditions and other people who are at high risk for getting the vaccine. and eventually we'll get to the why not population. but obviously it is a great day when we can take care first and foremost of our frontline health care workers who are actually taking care what have is a disturbingly daily increasing number of positive covid tests across the country. >> that is for sure. let's get to --relief, are you confident that something will get passed before you leave washington for the holidays? >> so let me just state-46 start by stating the obvious. i think that it is a national disgrace that we have not been able to come together as legislators to give this much needed relief. it is a disgrace. i personally have said on numerous occasions during this pandemic that all of us elected officials should be in washington day after day after

day. we should not leave. there should be no broke, eak i fail to do our most basic duty and deliver the help that they need. we have the highest peak of cases and deaths yet. state and local governments are in the red struggling to pay their first responders. small businesses are barely hanging on. and they will be closing permanently i think at a much higher rate here in new york. the governor has ordered that in-restaurant dining will be done with as of tomorrow which is going to sign the death knell for a lot of small businesses. this is a critical time for unemployed people, for people facing food insecurity for the first time in their lives. these are real people facing real issues. and it is a disgrace that my colleagues and i have not been able to do something. i don't think that we should leave until something gets done. >> do you think that it can be done in the scheduled five days that you have on the docket for

work? >> we ahave seen things get don at the snap of a i think ifffin is wibehind it. everything has to be on the table and we have to be willing to compromise. but if i hear mitch mcconnell say that i'm kind of acting like i want to get something done and then right when it appears that we have a bipartisan agreement, he throws a monkey wrench into the deal, he has to stop with that. people about don't want to hear the blame game. they just want action. >> and when you say you hear when a bipartisan agreement, i prem you are talking about in the house. how confident are you that in the house you can get something bipartisan, get that to mitch mcconnell and put the onus on him to bring the senate together? >> so basically what is going on right now is that there is a group of bipartisan senators working on something that will come out of the senate. we passed the h.e.r.o.s. act and

we've been trying to do this stuff for months and months in the house. whatever we've passed as gone to mitch mcconnell's house and it hasn't left his desk, never brouft to t brought to the floor. so right now there is a group of bipartisan senators trying to hammer out a deal that will then be put to the floor. that is where it begins and we have to get something to the president's desk to be signed. period. regardless of where it originates. >> did you think that has to include a check that is a relief bill? i know we got up to 1200 in the spring. there is it talk about that amount again, also putting it done to $600 down to 600 a pers. will it include a check? >> if you talk to any economist, they have said that we must, must, must inject money into the economy. how do you do that? you don't do it by giving tax

breaks to the wealthy and big cooperation corporations. you put money in people's hands. and that is what we did with the $1200 checks. and we also did the enhanced unemployment insurance for people out of work now even long term coming up on a year. that is the stuff that has to be included. and we have to extend the paycheck ploespay protection program. for me, those three things must be included. do we need to help states both red and blue with their lost revenue? of course we do. do we need to make sure companies playing by the rules and making sure their workers have a safe environment to come back to? of course. but if those two issues, state and local aid and liability issues are the stumbling blocks, put them on the side. we have to get money into people's hands and the direct payments, enhanced unemployment insurance and the paycheck protection program are the way to do it.

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chaos eriptsing in tupts in of washington wag following a rally in support of the president's

efforts to overturn the election results. violence erupted. d.c. police say 33 arrests were made including a 29-year-old man charged with assault with a dangerous weapon in connection to a quadruple stabbing. joining me now is mary trump, the president's niece and the author of "too much and never enough, how my family created the world's most dangerous man." and also barb areara rez, autho "tower of lies." ladies, glad to speak with you both. thank you for joining me. mary, you first. what goes through your mind and your uncle's mind potentially as you can try to get inside that as you think that he watches the chaos in the streets of this country, do you think that he is likely to see this in the big picture as the unrest that it is doing to this country or might he just see it as evidence of people supporting him? >> well, alex, thank you for

having us. great to be here. i'm personally horrified by it as we all should be. and donald on the other hand is thrilled by it. he is stoking this division deliberately. during the first debate with joe biden, he told the proud boys not tan down, he didn't denounce them, he told them to stand by. and they did. and now they are ready and he is calling them into action. and we need to remember, donald is a very weak person and he is a physical coward. he is more than happy to have other people do his bidding. but what these people are fighting for is to have a legitimate election in america overturned because the person in the oval office is lying to them. >> you know, mayry, you mention the proud boys. i was up late last night as i was seeing these videos come in from the events in washington. many of which did involve members of the proud boys. it was pretty disturbing.

i stayed up way too late looking at this. and being uncomfortable with it. what does your uncle get from this though in terms of future plans? you say that -- i mean what is his goal? is it because he wants to climb back you think into the world of politics, does this somehow elevate his ego? i mean, what could he gain from this kind of thing other than being at the very minimum a thorn in joe biden's side? >> well, the last point is an important one. he wants to delegitimize the biden administration before it even has a chance to be an administration. more than that, though, although unfortunately donald. >> dick: lodidn't lose in a lan slide, he did lose decisively. and the republican party in general performed better than he did. so he took this loss as a rejection of him. and he is terrified because once he loses the protection of the

oval office, he is potentially facing state charges, he is looking at some lawsuits, he is looking at a huge amount of debt being called in. so he is a desperate man. and he knows that if he is going done, he wi down, he will want to do as much damage on the way out as possible and take all of us down with him under which circumstances thecannot be the unity that you called for in an earlier segment and that question desperately need. >> yeah, i'll get to the new york state situation in a moment. but barbara, given mary's response there, and the president's prior statements supporting the demonstrators, be they proud boys or others, does this line up with the donald trump that you worked so closely with all those years? >> absolutely. he always wanted to be loved. he had to have his followers. and, you know, people had to like him. everyone was afraid of him, no one ever liked him. but had this idea that, you know, people liked him.

and were supporting him and everything he did was right and he made sure that he kept position surrounded with people that would do exactly that. and even when he had a speech to announce something in new york city, i'm doing this, i'm doing that. he needs to have people supporting him and telling him how great he is. and something like that, oh, my god, he is nirvana. he must be thrilled. >> so given that you say the president was more feared than liked during your experience with him, do you have any reason to think that that is not the case right now within the administration, those that work alongside him in the white house, and those that potentially work alongside him and follow his cue if you will in congress? >> there are probably people that are stupid enough to accept the way that he treats them and we know that, you know, michael cohen and kelly and others have

come out and said i was treated horribly, worse than i ever was in my life. but they like him so much that they put up with it. and there are people -- and also a lot of people bask in knowing trump and being part of trump. i think that that is dwindling now because it is no longer something to be proud of. but i think people are realizing that now more than ever. but he does have people that like him. there is no question about it. i would say by and large everybody -- or almost everybody else fears him. except his supporters, they love him. they love him. >> and i'll ask mary to draw on your experience professionally on that. because despite losing lawsuit after lawsuit that challenged the election results including at the streak wheupreme court, you think keeps drawing the president's devout supporters to him amid his baseless claims of

election fraud? >> a couple things are going on. and you know, at the most basic level, donald has revealed something about this country. there are a lot of people who like him because of his racism, because of his mysogeny and because of his cruelty, not in spite of that. we need to be really clear about that. on the other hand, a lot of these people don't get accurate information, partially because they watch news outlets that are more propaganda outlets than anything else and partially becau because, you know, they believe that they should trust their leaders. and if their leaders are telling them that the election was rigged and that the results are a hoax and that president biden had not been legitimately elected, they're going to listen to the person they have placed their trust in. it's an extremely dangerous situation, and we need to not

mince words here. what donald is doing on a daily basis, he's endangering lives and he's committing sedition. >> barbara, i want to get to what we mentioned earlier about new york state with regard to the manhattan da's investigation of the president, and it's certainly intensifying this weekend. we have the "new york times" reporting that state prosecutors have recently interviewed employees of the president's bank and insurance broker, and you mentioned his former attorney, michael cohen, and in fact this recent investigation is going to keep the president busy after he is out of office. >> he will not be running in trump 2024 for several reasons. first and foremost, the attorney general and the district attorney are both here in new york. and that's only two agencies that will have him so busy between him, his children, his company. they will be so entrenched in

litigation that he will not have the time to go about in terms of campaigning. >> barbara, let me ask you how serious you think these investigations might be into the president's company. how serious they are in terms of how far they can go and how he may be held liable for certain things. >> that's a good question, because lots of times they're dropped. they had very good cases against ivanka and donald jr. and they just went away, disappeared. donald trump is able to make a deal with the devil and he may sneak out of that somehow. this is my opinion, and it's speculation. if it looks like he's going to jail, that he's going to be convicted of something, i think he's going to leave the country. i don't think trump would go to jail. i don't think he could abide it, i really don't.

>> well, a localit of steps to there before that might happen, but in the meantime, i want to thank you both, mary trump and barba barbara. let's go to breaking news. vaccines are criss-crossing the country. about 200 boxes right now making their way to distribution hubs nationwide. dr. madad is an epidemiologist in new york city. i know you're working for the hospitals on logistics, but first, i want to ask how are the hospitals doing and how will this roll out? what do you keenly need to focus on to make sure this goes smoothly? >> this is the biggest vaccination campaign in u.s. history, so all 6,000 hospitals across the united states are all in the same boat in terms of trying to look at the administrative and logistical

aspects of rolling out this massive campaign, and so i think a few things that are happening across the nation in hospitals is looking at where rubber meets the road. once these vaccines arrive, how are we going to supply them to health care workers and the long-term residents if you have that within your health care system. one of the things that's happening right now is looking at the screening process, the i.t. process, seeing who is eligible and making sure they're going through an initial questionnaire. and once they're coming for the vaccine through a scheduled appointment, you want to make sure they're providing oall the resource in terms of the ea and the science of it. i think the other big thing is the staffing component to it. what we know, for example, the ever health system in washington, this is one thing they mentioned, a lot of health care is struggling for vaccines

because there is a lot happening behind the scenes. >> with regard to the responses we've heard from health services as well as physicians, they see this as the end of the pandemic. is that how you see it? >> this is certainly a means to end the pandemic but not right away. right now what we can expect is that by the end of this year, by the end of december, we may have about 20 million americans vaccinated. by end of january, you may have another 50 million, another 100 million bit end of march. by the time we hit summer, it's going to be widely available for all americans. right now we have the most critical period of this pandemic, and the vaccines are not going to help right away in terms of curbing the transmission.

preserving hospital capacity in terms of making sure health care workers are being vaccinated so they're protected is important, and i think we'll see what we're seeing now in terms of hospitalization cases and death. by inauguration day, we'll probably have 40,000 americans dying every single day. one thing i should mention that's lacking is building confidence in the vaccine. we have 6,000 hospitals in the united states. there is no reason to have 6,000 different plans. everyone needs to have a unified strategy to build confidence in the vaccine. we're having this roll out in the most critical time with elections. we all need to get on the same page. >> for those who have trust issues in medicine like this because of cultural history or any other reason, how do you get that to be a unified message quickly? >> well, i think first you need to make sure that we're inve investing in the communication strategy so it's coming from the top. it shouldn't all come from the bottom.

every health care system shouldn't be reinventing the wheel here. nobody has time to do that, so you need to have good messaging come from the top with good communication plans that we can roll out at the local level, bringing in faith-based leaders, civic organizations, leaders that are part of the communities that can help spread the message to debunk the myths and conspiracy theories that are running rampant right now. >> all right, dr. madad, thank you for doing that for us. appreciate that. the flight that landed in louisville carrying the first batch of covid-19 vaccine will join us next live and we'll bring you the historic nature of this vaccine rollout. a live report coming up next. rt a live report coming up next change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. ♪ birds flyin' high you know how i feel ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel ♪ [man: coughing]

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