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case. it was about the challenge, it was about the hunt. that's all that mattered. ♪ ♪ > i was tied up and tortured. these people almost murdered me. >> i was terrified. my mother just fighting for her child. that's universal. she survived a harrowing ordeal in one of the most dangerous places on earth. >> tonight they have brought me
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out to kill me. >> then, from across the world, her kidnapper found her again. >> he reached out to me on facebook. >> did your heart stop? >> it was so scary that he could find me. >> for the first time she shares her dramatic story, how she helped secret agents hunt down her captor. >> this all plays like a tom clancy thriller. >> absolutely. >> the setting, a perfect island paradise. the plot, a daring undercover sting. sting. >> we didn't think it would work. >> face to face with her kidnapper at last. >> i just broke down. >> it's still hard for you. >> this is real life, like, pain. >> would she get justice? >> i got the courage in that moment. then i said i'm ready.
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>> imagine being the mother on the other end of this call. your daughter a world away in the hands of kidnappers. both mother and daughter traumatized in their own ways by a callous captor. their stories are intertwined. amanda lindhout. >> my head is pulled back, and then there was a serrated knife. >> and her mother lorinda stewart. >> did you keep it together? >> i did. i had to be strong for her. >> driven by strength, courage, and endurance, these women would not only survive this ordeal,
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but their determination in a completely new chapter of their story would ultimately lead them to triumph over one of the men who had terrorized them so brutally, and it would take an international elaborate sting. >> it sounds like something out of a movie. >> it does. we always refer to this operation as the hail mary plan. >> but before all of that this story begins in a small town in western canada where a young woman named amanda lindhout yearned for a world beyond her hometown. >> one constant was that i wanted to be a world traveler, that i wanted to go to every country in the world. >> amanda began to realize her dreams of seeing the world in the '90s. at 19 she was off to venezuela. >> we are driving in the back of a pickup truck away from the village back to the town. >> the whole world was wide open
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to me at that time. >> so wide open she kept moving, kept pushing forward. >> going from india to pakistan, it did feel like a big deal to me. it was something i really wanted to do, and then i did it. and afghanistan is right next door. >> mom lore lornida grew concerned especially as her daughter trekked into active war zones. she tried to talk her daughter out of it, but her daughter was headstrong, and the more she traveled the more she began to see a path to something else. >> she thought, wow, i would love to write about the people. >> she wanted to turn her wanderlust into a journalism career. she wanted to get more experience but also cover stories she cared about. >> i'm also starting to look like a little bit further out onto the horizon. >> how far? one of the most dangerous places in the world. >> what other stories are out there that i feel passionate
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about? at the top of my list was somalia. >> amanda knew she had to tell her mother lorinda about her plans. >> and you're thinking what? >> i would really rather she didn't go. >> do you think maybe you were to use your mom's word, a little headstrong? >> yeah, i was headstrong. and i don't think that i had spent enough time thinking about what would happen if something did go wrong. >> soon enough, she would find out just how wrong things could go. on the plane into mogadishu, she remembers a fellow passenger turning to her and her colleague nigel brennan with a stern warning. >> he said to me your head, your head alone, is worth half a million dollars in mogadishu. be careful. >> as amanda left the airport, the capital city was chaotic. back at home amanda's mother worried about her daughter. >> i just made sure every time i talked to her that i told her i loved her.
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>> amanda managed to tamp down her nervousness and got to work on her third day in somalia she was in a car with nigel chasing a story. >> the vehicle started to slow down, and i looked up. good day, a news conference is just getting underway in nashville after this morning's explosion. let's listen in. >> followed by united states attorney don cochran for the middle district of tennessee. he will be followed by mickey french, special agent in charge of the atf for this area. he will be followed by matt foster, the special agent in charge of the nashville fbi office, and then nashville fire department chief director william swan will speak to some operations taking place on second avenue. chief john drake? >> thank you, don.
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good afternoon. this morning around 5:30 a.m. officers responded to a call for shots fired in the downtown area. specifically 2nd and near commerce. they encountered an rv that had a recording saying that a potential bomb would detonate within 15 minutes. officers, upon hearing that, decided to evacuate the buildings nearby. so they began knocking on doors, making announcements, having emergency communications communicate with everyone to get people safe. shortly after that, the rv exploded. we had one officer that was knocked to the ground. another officer is fine. [ sirens ] currently what we have going on now, we have k-9 dogs out
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partnering with tennessee highway patrol, federal partners and we're sweeping the downtown area just as a precaution to make sure that everyone is safe and that any service that is needed we can provide that. with that said we don't feel there's any concern in the downtown area of anything else right now. but we are doing it as a precaution just to search with our bomb dogs. and at this time i will turn it over to attorney don cochran. >> good afternoon and merry christmas, unfortunately. this is not the way any of us wanted to spend our christmas morning. this morning i briefed the active attorney general on the situation here in nashville and he has told me to tell the police chief and nashville that we are devoting the entire resources of the department of justice to help in their
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investigation. fbi and atf are taking the lead in this investigation, and i want to turn the stage over first to the special agent matt foster to explain some of the resources the federal government is going to take to brief this situation. >> thank you, don. the fbi stands with the city of nashville today in this very tragic christmas day event. this is our city too. we live here, we work here, and we're putting everything we have into finding who is responsible for what's happened here today. as part of doing that, there are investigative leads to be pursued. there's also technical works that needs to happen. and we're standing with metro nashville police department and our federal partners and our state partners to bring every resource we could possibly bring to bear to find out what happened here today and to bring those responsible to justice.
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the investigative leads i'm sure you understand is not something that we can talk about. as we continue to pursue every tip, i would ask the public to go to www.fbi.gov/nashville. where an online tip submission process has been set up. please tell us what you know. we need your leads, we need your help. you can also call 1-800-callfbi if you know anything about what has happened here today. we'd appreciate your help. on the technical side, our focus will be on bringing the technical experts of the fbi from across the country including the fbi laboratory, our hazardous devices school, and our experts from evidence response teams nationwide into nashville to help process this massive crime scene, along with the atf metro nashville pd and
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the many other partners who are part of this effort that will continue. we will find out what happened here. that's all. >> good afternoon. my name's mickey french, special agent in charge for the atn national field division. atf is continuing to be a critical partner with the metro national police department as well as our federal counter parts. atf responded this morning with several groups and personnel from the nashville field division. we've also activated our national response team. that particular team is made up of specialists as well, certified explosive specialists, chemists, engineers, as well as evidence recovery, interview teams, and so forth. we'll be coordinating that with metro national police department as well as the fbi. and we'll put together a team
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that is going to collectively work this investigation to the fullest. our main priority is obviously to keep our nashville citizens safe and secure. and we'll work jointly with everybody here to do that. thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm going to give you just a quick update. i know don already mentioned the fire department's role, ems. we did transport three individuals with minor injuries. but right now what we're doing is with our structural engineers along with our urban search and rescue, hazmat teams, we are going into the buildings making sure, number one, that the building is sound and ensuring that there are no other victims or anyone that is there. so a lot of moving parts. again, my hat goes off to all the teams working together as one unit, and we'll continue the work until the job is done. so thank you.
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>> all right, ladies and gentlemen, that's the update as we know it at present. if there is another briefing for this afternoon, we'll let you know. but you pretty much know what we know at this juncture as far as our community is concerned. again, to reiterate, we know of no other imminent danger to the city at this point. the bomb dogs going through the downtown area now are doing that as a precaution. okay. own own inaudible question] >> do we have an estimate of how many buildings have been damaged in this incident? >> i'll talk with joseph pleasant from oem. i can tell you that several of the buildings on second avenue have structural damage. several of them have been
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damaged, some more than others. we'll get that for you. i know that as chief swan said, the fire department's looking at those structural issues now to determine any more potential impact. >> at this point, do not the target, do you know the purpose of why this happened? >> as the fbi said, we will find that out. there are a number of people working right now on christmas day running leads throughout the city, from our police department, the fbi, atf, answers will be forthcoming. we can't discuss those with you now or exactly what we're looking at. but answers i'm sure will be forthcoming. >> was there a body found? >> i have no information about any body being found. we do not know whether anyone was in the rv when it exploded.
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we do not know whether anyone was in the rv when it exploded. so i can't tell you at this point whether there's a potential for a fatality in that scenario. >> the megaphone that was warning people to leave, was that coming from the truck? >> it is believed to have been coming from the rv. [ inaudible question ] or was it someone -- >> there were announcements coming from the rv. and that's the extent of what we can say at this point. >> is there any surveillance footage that police are investigating right now? >> there are cameras throughout the downtown area. yes, we have been reviewing downtown cameras, and that is all part of the totality of the investigation. >> don, you mentioned some people may have been taken to central precinct, whether they were just witnesses to give a statement to share what they saw. has anything come to fruition from that that you can share? >> just providing more pieces to
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the puzzle, more information. as chief drake said, we had a number of officers on second avenue who were working to protect the public when the explosion occurred. one of those officers was knocked off his feet. we have some counselors with our officers, our behavioral health folks are with those officers ensuring that they're okay. i mean, they went through a very traumatic experience themselves. >> can you speak to just -- it's amazing how these officers and first responders run into the face of danger. they knew according to that rv that there was some kind of threat and they continued to take their time to get people out. >> well, they went to the residential areas on second avenue and did their best to get people to safety. obviously, they heard the announcements coming from this vehicle. they took them seriously and were working to seal the streets
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to protect folks. and we think it worked. we think lives were saved by those officers doing just that. all right. thanks very much, folks. >> can we ask one final question? >> we were just listening into a briefing on what happened in downtown nashville this morning, christmas morning. here's what we know. 5:30 in the morning, they responded, law enforcement responded to the downtown area with shots fired. we're going to go right back. it sounds like the public information officer for police has returned. >> -- the intention. >> all right. so i'm going to go back to recapping. i missed the last part of what he just said there. 5:30, there's a shots fired call. they go and respond. there's an rv in the downtown area with an announcement of some kind saying that a bomb would detonate in 15 minutes. that announcement was coming from the rv. it's unclear if that was a recording or a megaphone. all they're characterizing that
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as is an announcement. police evacuated the residents in that area on second avenue in downtown. the rv then exploded. one officer in fact was knocked to the ground because of that. the police chief telling us right now they're sweeping the area with bomb dogs. they don't believe though there are any more threats. we also found out from the u.s. attorney that the justice department has been briefed. the fbi is taking the lead on this investigation in that press conference right there. they wouldn't discuss investigative leads but they did ask the public for tips, in fact, saying, we need your help. we also know from the atf, they are on scene participating. they have chemists and engineers right there on the ground working this investigation. and a gentleman from the fire department confirmed that they took three people to the hospital and that right now they are actively going into buildings looking for more victims, although they don't believe that there are any, and also making sure that the buildings in that area, many of which have extensive damage, are
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sound. the police pio, public information officer, did stress, they don't know if anybody was in the rv at the time of the detonation of that explosive device. so at this point there are no fatalities. but the public information officer said that that could change as the investigation continues. as we learn more details in this breaking story, we will bring them to you. for now we return to "date line: extra" already in progress. >> and she still had her hands outstretched to help me. >> you don't know whatever happened to that woman? >> no, i don't. >> after the escape attempt, adam and the gang clearly grew frustrated. and adam took it out on lorinda. >> if i had the money i would pay you. we are not playing games. it's you that are playing games. the escape attempt made things much worse for amanda.
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>> they tied your arms and your legs and pulled your body up by ropes and leave you. >> yeah. it's very hard for me to go back to that and think about what happened to me during those three days. >> after that, adam forced her onto the phone again. it's one of the hardest calls to listen to. of the hardest callso listen to. the calls were agonizing. the families of both amanda and nigel desperate to have their children home eventually hired a private security company to help. months went by, and one night amanda's captors came to her room. >> they marched me outside and then had me sit down on the cement and they produced a small
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saw and began sawing through the chains that had been on my ankles for ten months. >> amanda and nigel hadn't seen each other for months. but now they were thrown into the backseat of a car and driven into the dark somali night. >> we're both crying. guns surround this car that we're in. and i think this is it. >> then a man appeared at the car's window. >> he says to me why are you crying? here, talk to your mother. and she said to me, amanda, you're free. >> amanda's mother lorinda had never stopped negotiating, and adam had agreed to accept $680,000 for both amanda and nigel. the captives flew out of somalia and landed in nairobi, kenya. they were whisked away to a
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hospital. mother and daughter finally reunited. >> people often ask me what that was like the first time i saw her. and i know what they're envisioning like us running in slow motion and laughing and crying and what not. but i barely recognized her. it was relief, it was joy, and it was heartache to see her like that. >> we took a moment to just look at each other. she's never looked more beautiful to me than she did in that moment. i would not be here now if it was not for my mother. my mom gave me life and she saved my life. >> amanda lindhout was finally safe back with her family. but adam, the one who tormented them so much, wasn't finished with them yet. a single word from him would bring it all back. all back. coming up.
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>> did your heart stop? >> it was so scary that he could find me. >> a facebook message from across the world. and a daring undercover plan to catch a kidnapper. >> it sounds like something out of a movie. >> we didn't think it would work. >> when "the captor" continues. work >> when "the captor" continues oh, i will rescue you
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♪ amanda lindhout was back home in canada struggling to move beyond the horrific events in somalia and trying to cope with the idea that the captors who so terrorized her might never be brought to justice. and as amanda tried to get her life back on track, there was an interruption. >> i had enrolled in a university program in eastern canada, and it was during a break between classes i was checking, you know, my emails and i saw that i had received a facebook message. >> one word "hello." it was from the last person she ever wanted to hear from. >> it was a message from adam. >> did your heart stop? >> it was so scary that he could
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find me even though i was safe and across the world and was at home. it was really disarming. >> that one simple message was about to launch a new and dangerous chapter of her story. the messages didn't stop there. lorinda heard from adam, too. but her communication with him extended beyond "hello." >> out of the blue you get this facebook message from adam. it must've been shocking. >> it was a total shock. it was kind of terrifying, too, because it just felt like it was right in my space again. >> adam taunted lorinda. he said he was reaching out because he had journals amanda had written in captivity deeply personal writing that had helped her get through it all. >> what were you thinking when you saw that? >> i was hoping that i could get him to send amanda's journals. >> but if lorinda wanted those precious journals, adam said
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she'd have to pay. for lorinda, it was outrageous. her daughter's kidnapper had tracked her down with more demands for cash. that's when she reached out once again to the royal canadian mountain police in ottawa a staff sergeant got a call from his bosses. >> we've become that adam's been in touch with her. and at that point my team was engaged to pursue that to the full extent. >> a 30-year veteran, he ran priority undercover projects for the royal canadian mounted police. his mission, find adam, if that was even his name. >> he reaches out on facebook, which means you have his facebook address, right? >> we do. >> you kind of know where he is. >> we know he's in somalia. we know we suspect that he's using an alias. so the principle course of action at that point is who is
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adam? and so to do that we have to engage him directly through an undercover operation. >> an undercover agent? >> correct. >> is he going to start trying to get in touch with adam? >> yes. >> that's where this man comes in. he's a canadian investigator who we've agreed to refer to by his cover name a.k. >> right off the top i just want to acknowledge, we're hiding your identity. we've changed your look. >> yes. >> that's because you're an undercover agent. >> correct. >> a.k. reached out to adam first by phone. the undercover agent told him he was a media consultant for amanda's family. amanda didn't know about a.k. or what he was doing. all she knew was that adam's facebook messages had triggered some kind of investigation. >> i didn't really know what was going on. i knew that there was the hope to catch this guy. >> a.k. and adam communicated on and off for years. it was slow work, but a.k. knew pushing too hard could crater
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the operation, and patience paid off. >> one day i received an email from him, which was scanned copies of 16 letters. >> they looked like letters, but they were actually pages ripped from amanda's journals. adam had originally asked for thousands of dollars for them. but now. >> i called him up and asked him about this. and he says, yeah, i've sent you the letters, i don't need any money for them. our relationship evolved to the point where he trust me enough now. >> and then adam shared a new idea. he told a.k. he was a scholar and wanted to write a book, a history of somalia. as implausible as that sounds to investigators, it was an unexpected gift, a way to get adam on the hook. >> you're telling a kidnapper -- >> yes. >> who you believe was involved in this really major kidnapping and a lot of crimes that you're going to help him publish a book? >> yes. >> it sounds like something out of a movie. >> it does. we almost refer to this operation as the hail mary play.
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we didn't think it would work. and as it was continuing we surprised ourselves. >> you didn't actually think, yeah, i really want to write a book? >> no. >> and i want to pursue this with you? >> no. he convinced himself that he wanted to write this book and that he was able to write this book. that's our in. we thought how are we going to move this forward. how are we going to gather evidence. because ultimately that's our goal. gathering the evidence and maybe one day bringing him to justice. >> money, fame, to amanda, it was just the kind of bait that could trap her kidnapper. >> it totally fits in line with what i knew of this man. he struck me as the kind of guy whose ego was so big. of course if somebody told him he's capable of writing a book, he would think that. >> the hail mary play was in motion. but investigators knew they needed more than phone calls and emails. their next move, get adam to meet in person.
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breaking news with nashville. police said at a press conference this afternoon that an rv was parked on a downtown street was an audible warning that a bomb would explode within 15 minutes early this morning. police were evacuating buildings in the area when an explosion occurred, sending three people to the hospital with noncritical injuries. the fbi is now taking the lead in the investigation. we'll have live updates from nashville all afternoon. but for now back to "dateline: extra." ♪ as the hunt for her
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kidnapper progressed, amanda continued to recover and heal. part of that journey included sharing her story with the world four years after being freed, she released her memoir "a house in the sky." it became a best seller. >> in my own life, friends, family, book club people say to me, have you read this book? you've reached a lot of people. >> most people will never be kidnapped. but people know pain and loss and adversity that they don't think that they can get through. and so what i feel people find in the pages is inspiration and a reminder that they are strong, too. >> her strength would become crucial to the operation now underway. investigators knew they had her kidnapper adam on the hook. they also knew that in order to get justice for amanda, they needed more than long-distance conversations. >> we need to see him. >> we need to see him to
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identify him fully. >> whose idea was it to meet face to face? >> it was his idea. >> imagine the opportunity to meet with one of amanda's kidnappers face to face. but where in the world to do it? somalia, too dangerous. canada? too risky. how about paradise? mauritius four hours away from the kidnapper's homeland of somalia, this island gem with its pristine beaches, crystal clear water, beautiful mountain vistas, and luxury resorts. a.k. convinced the kidnapper that he would serve as his book agent and invited adam here to talk about the project. >> adam lives in mogadishu in a really difficult place to live. and you're bringing him to a place where europeans come on vacation? >> i think what it did do though was it solidified my status as an international business person, somebody who had the means to get him what he wanted, which was essentially a book contract. >> adam took the bait.
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here he is in mauritius with a.k. >> did you ever get nervous that adam was figuring out who you were? >> i did initially. and then we were walking around the resort. he turned to me, and he said what did you think of me? and so i buttered him up a bit. i said your english is great. you've come a long way from such humble beginnings. and i turned it back on him and said what did you think of me. >> he said first i thought you were intelligent. but now, now we are brothers. >> against a backdrop of serene stillness and beauty, the brothers continued to talk and even relaxed. they each had something to gain in this face-to-face meeting. he had one objective, getting that book deal. >> he did. >> and it seemed like you had one objective. >> definitely we had one objective. >> the objective was to see him, confirm that adam was indeed the man who had terrorized amanda and lorinda. next, they wanted him to admit his involvement in the kidnapping. that's where the phony book deal
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came in. >> we knew that he was interested in writing a book. we brought props and one of them was a book cover that we had designed. and i was going to sign a contract with him that laid out his and my relationship vis-a-vis the publisher. >> the contract had a trap buried in it. adam would have to disclose any wrongdoing in his past. >> we had a special paragraph in it that we had inserted, a disclosure paragraph to encourage him to tell us his story. >> he signed and incredibly he told his story including details of his involvement in the kidnapping. >> can you believe he's saying all of this? >> in my head i was dancing. it was amazing. you couldn't ask for better evidence. >> he even described his role in one of amanda's worst days, that hostage video on al jazeera. >> i showed him a video that had aired on al jazeera television. he pointed to himself as if he was really, really proud of
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this, and he said i'm the one that shot that video. >> amanda vividly remembers that video and adam that day. >> adam was now manning this and setting the stage for this video. i would say there was a great deal of excitement among all of them that they were going to be doing this little video. and in their minds it would get attention and money. >> in mauritius, investigators accomplished two big things. they'd identified adam as the kidnapper and got him to admit his crimes. but after all that work, it still wasn't enough to arrest adam. mauritius law prohibited a.k. from recording the confession. >> so you have no video or audio of what he is saying? >> correct. >> investigators wanted to have the strongest evidence they could against adam in order to prosecute him under canadian law. >> you're leaving mauritius with a success, but you need more. >> yeah, we do. >> how did you feel when you left here?
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>> conflicted. >> you're leaving him watching him go back to somalia. >> yeah. as investigators, we had succeeded in getting the evidence. we had succeeded in getting the identity. but we had to let him go. it was like a catch and release program. >> in order to catch adam and bring him to justice, they were hoping they could lure him even farther from home. a place where they could control the setting all the way to canada. but how on earth would they convince adam to do that, and how long would it take? >> while you want justice, this is dragging on for years. >> and as the years passed, i started to think the likelihood of that would diminish. coming up. investigators set a trap. investigators set a trap >> it played out like a movie. >> i answered the phone and my heart started pounding. >> when "the capture" continues. . looking to save money this holiday season?
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♪ > amanda lindhout knew investigators were doing their best to bring her kidnapper to justice. and she did her best to help them. >> every couple of months i would have in-person visits with the rcmp. and during these meetings they could never tell me very much. but enough to give me at least a little bit of confidence that they might be able to pull this off. >> a.k. and his team considered the undercover operation in mauritius a success. but it wasn't enough. they wanted to get amanda's kidnapper to confess his crimes on canadian soil. >> why did you need him to go to canada? >> we didn't want him to be arrested overseas. so we wanted him in the country so we could deal with him in the
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most efficient way possible. >> in order to grab adam in canada, they had to get him there. a.k. truly had to convince him the fake book deal was real. >> so he thinks you are his book agent? >> i'm his book agent. so we have now got to the point where he was going to meet the publisher. so it was my job then to send him a plane ticket, which is difficult if you want to do if you want to fly somebody out to somalia. >> you're going to bring an international kidnapper into canada? >> correct. that doesn't sound easy. >> the dichotomy is that we're usually in the business of keeping terrorists outside the country. >> coordinating and planning an itinerary for a kidnapper would take time and threaten the operation. once again, a.k. played the long game. >> i kept on putting him off saying we'll be meeting with the publisher soon. and at one point i had to fake a heart attack. >> i'm sorry. you had to fake a heart attack? >> i faked a heart attack, and
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that was the way we were able to put him off for a while. >>? real life you were actually doing other cases? >> yes. >> finally after years of hard work and delays for amanda and her mother, everything was in place, and adam was on a plane to canada. >> he arrives at the airport in ottawa. and he comes in and we sit down and we talk about the impending book deal, the publishing deal that is about to be signed. >> adam was looking forward to a different kind of future. little did he know, that is precisely what he would get out of this deal. >> i go into the room with adam. first we have a board room set up for our meeting and then the book publisher arrives, knocks on the door, comes on in. him and i are allegedly old friends. >> this is my star. nice to meet you. >> you're actually both undercover agents? >> both undercover agents and we have a bit of chitchat and we sit down and we go over the contract. and adam as we had done in mauritius, he goes over everything that he had done.
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>> so you would be the negotiator between people who had amanda, and who else? it played out like a movie. it was excellent. >> he's actually confessing to you his crimes? >> yes. >> so after the three months, as far as i understand it from what lorinda and amanda have told me, you were still the person on the phone? >> yes. i'm working. i want to get the benefit. >> you were supposed to get some money? >> yes. >> do you know how much? >> no, i don't know, but i was expecting more than, uh. >> what did they give you? >> 10,000. >> after that meeting, you walk out. >> we signed the contract, everybody's very happy. we were walking out because i had told him we were going for a tour of ottawa. but that didn't happen. >> you were both arrested. you were arrested too because you're still undercover? >> yeah, uniform police
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handcuffed us both. >> adam must've been totally shocked. >> he was. you could see in his face that he was clearly thrown by this. and i had to play up, get your hands off my client, what are you doing here, this is ridiculous. and they handcuffed us both, led us off in different directions. i went for a beer, he went to jail. >> it had been seven years since amanda lindhout had been chained in a squalid cell in somalia terrorized and tortured by her kidnappers for 460 days. now, adam was in chains himself. amanda was home when she got the news. >> i answered the phone and i was home alone. and my heart started pounding. and he said, we've arrested adam. and i fell to my knees, and i started crying. and the next day i woke up and it was my 34th birthday. and on the front page of every
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newspaper in canada was his face. a face that i hadn't seen in over five years. >> i came in right after and she was crying, and him, they got adam. >> what were your feelings? >> i was crying and i could not even speak. >> and immediately my mind went to twlel is goiwell, there is g trial, and i will have to testify in that trial. and the weight of that and what that really meant to me and would mean to my life became real. >> coming up, face to face with her capture at last. >> i was so afraid to see this man again. >> what would happen inside of that courtroom? >> i wondered if i could do it. >> when "the capture" continues. . one wash, stains are gone.
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as unlikely as it may have seemed, authorities had their man, the kidnapping man, and they announced adam's camture to the world. >> this is a testament to the investigative team's perseverance. >> with the investigation over, it would now be up to amanda herself to keep adam behind bars. it would take everything she had to do it. >> i will have to testify and face this man in court. >> you will have to see him? >> yeah, amanda would have to assist the prosecution team. >> a group of us would meet every couple of mounts for two-and-a-half years.
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it was such a difficult story for me. there was so much trauma in the telling of the story and i appreciated the time they took with me guiding me through the process and as the triegt date was getting closer i can't say it was getting closer. >> what was the difficulties? >> the magnitude of the file. second is are the witnesses going to be able to test it. >> he was a 40-year-old somali national. he pleaded not guilty to the kidnapping. on october 5th, the trial began in the kidnapping of amanda
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lindhow. dateline was with her that morning as she made her way to the course. >> in the moments before entering the courtroom i wondered if i could do it. but i gathered myself. i needed to do that as much i just saw you gather yourself just there. it is still hard for you? >> it is, and i expect it always will be. this is real life, like pain. and the doors opened and i walked into the courtroom, and adam was sitting directly in front of me. and i kind of crumbled. >> now came the moment for amanda to testify against her kidnapp kidnapper. >> can you describe it for me?
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she was crying, upset, and afraid. and shen she swung her head over and she stopped crying and she gave him a look like i would never want anyone looking at me like that. >> what kind of a look? >> it was a firm resolve. >> seeing him sit across from me, that was also the truth now. >> it's a reversal. >> and he looked so small in a way. sitting in that box. >> in her testimony, amanda spoke openly about how adam terrorized her. she was on the stand for one long day. but her mom spent three days in court listening to the phone calls that would prove crucial to the case. >> i am not lying to you. you do not want amanda to be home. because if you want, you should
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pay the money. >> again you have to relive it. >> yeah, it was empowering. the truth was being told. and there was a small part of me that actually felt sorry for him. >> compassion for him? >> yeah. >> adam's defense was that he, himself, had been taken hostage and they had threatened him. >> in the end his defense didn't work. the man known as amend was found guilty of kidnapping for his crimes he was sentenced to 15 years in a canadian prison. victory for amanda. amanda read a victim's impact statement at sentencing. she addressed adam, i'm the victim and also the survivor. i'm the one who will go out and live the lessons of this. i choose to lean lean into the
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lesson and challenge of finding forgiveness, compassion, and peace. those words bringing to a close not one, but two improbably stories. amanda's kidnapping and the years spent in pursuit of justice. >> ten years of your life. >> yeah. >> five years for the undercover operation and ten years for the conviction. >> he is sitting in prison right now in this country. do you think about that ever? >> it is justice but i don't take joy in any suffering of any other human being. >> have you forgiven adam? >> i can't say yes or no to that question. because it is not a forgiving because ames deserves to be forgiven. but i deserve to have the freedom in my life of not being full of that anger all of the time and keep pointing my feet towards forgiveness.
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