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there are 24 days until president-elect joe bide's inauguration. he is still refusing to sign a crucial bill to fund the government and extend covid relief to millions of struggling americans. as of midnight last night the supplement aal benefits keeping food on the table for many is set to expire. multiple officials say they searched the home of 63-year-old anthony quinn warner in connection with the bombing. a google street view of his home shows an rv parked in the backyard that appears to be identical to the rv that police
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say was used in the bombing. it is apparently no longer parked in the bark yard of warner's home. they have investigating whether or not this person may have been the person responsible for the bombing. joining me live in nashville, shaq, what is the latest on this investigation since you and i last talked? >> hi there. while lead investigators have not named a person of interest they're paying particular attention to that 63-year-old man, anthony quinn kwawarner. we saw them go in and now they're collected evidence, gathering different things and locking down that area for lots of time. they're seeing his digital devices, if there is in any social media this.
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they have not been able to gather any evidence that points to a possible motive for that shooting. they continue it at the last site that is about 4.5 blocks of where i am now. you see the complexities trying to pr access the scene of that size. we know they will continue to work and process that scene. one other detail is what they're calling that human tissue. possible remains. they say they have not been able to identify the source of the remains or give a update on the remains they might have been if they were inside or outside of the rv.
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but that is where things the attention there there is no suspect, no motive, and we continue to await more information on the investigation. >> meanwhile following a christmas week that included pardoning corrupt political allies and murders, president trump is vacations at his golf resort in florida. he is showing how truly un-american he is. he is calling the united states a corrupt third-world country that will soon be run by an inlegitimate leader in a pair of tweet that's scrape below the bottom of the barrel, trump says the country he lead social security a third-world country
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worse than runs elections than war war-attorney afghan. he says there are three lejudge that will not overturn the election. he makes the claim that the united states is about to be lead by a fake president adding that since he views it as corrupt the united states is not a country at all. you can clearly see where this is going. this is wild, dangerous territory nap is where the vacationing outgoing president's mind is focused. overthrowing the country, destroying democracy, and golf. you know what else happened yesterday? millions of americans lost their last economic lifeline.
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and it is directly due to vacations outgoing president trump's selfishness. after months of negotiations congress finally passed a bill funding the government. one of the many things that the bill would do is extend supplemental emergency unemployment benefits until march. as of midnight last night have now lapsed. i'm going to have a lot on this later in the show. trump, the self-described dellmakdel dealmaker in history, he left the negotiations to the treasury secretary steve mnuchin and mark
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med d meadows. he decided to wait until it passed and release what amounts to a ransom video demanding changes. even if a deal is made right this very second, they shortened what will happen, that is assuming what s going right from here. that limits the much needed lifeline. president-elect joe biden says this abdication of responsibility has devastating consequences and they rest solely on donald trump's shoulders. nancy pelosi will be voting on a bill to change the benefits to each person to $2,000 per person. also tomorrow, the house will
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vote to override outgoing president trump's veto of the annual defense bill that trump did partly because they renamed military bases named for traitorous traitor confederate generals if is now unclear how many will vote in favor of the first override of a veto. not only that but it seems me may be in for a government shut down sporm night duritomorrow n. all because one vacationing man wants to live out as many authoritarian fantasies as he can in his last remaining 24 days in office. outgoing vacations president trump found the time to pardon
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dozens of political loyalists. they are convicted of fraud, and four black water contractors convicted of perpetrating actual murder. joining me now is maxine waters of california, not one of the people scared of donald trump's tweets, but she was one of the earlyist vi isiest victims. he is playing golf, i don't understand. he was not interested in the discussion. he was discussions voter fraud, and literally ten million people or more had their unemployment benefits cut off last night. >> it is a nightmare. it is unbelievable that the president of the united states
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of america could jeopardize americans in the way he did. not only are they depending on their assistance, but he has literally defunded the military while he is running around talking about defund the police, it is a tragedy. blaming it on democrats which is not true, he is defunding the entire military and this president not only is doing that but he is putting the entire country in danger of, you know, having the government shut down. i can't tell you how unbelievable this is. but the president of the united states playing golf, thinking about himself, threatening his colleagues if he doesn't do what they want him to do.
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we fought very hard from him. we fought very hard, even if the cares act the unemployed got $600 and stimulus were $1200, and the money for each child. but he doesn't quare, he's not listening, he has us all just very upset and not knowing what is going to happen. we're going to attempt to overliove override his veto. they don't have any butts. they would rather jeopardize the country. so i know if there is any
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comfort at all we know that he will be out in about 24 days and we have to take this country back to where it should be when responding to the people rather than waking up every day frightened and not knowing what the president is capable of. here we are. >> let's talk about -- >> that's what i want to talk about. you and i oef the summer talkved a lot about criminal justice. in the streets of america where they were protesting breonna taylor and george floyd, they were telling me this is not just about police brutality, it was about injustice.
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sometimes when we see pardons at the end of a president's term, we're seeing some of that. we're seeing injustice if people wrongfully convicted. these guys on the street were murders. they were convicted for killing innocent civilians. you see members of congress kahn vikted for things they did. this was a set of pardons for rich, white men. >> absolutely but i said and others have been saying that this president has been been managing and conducting a criminal enterprise right out of the white house. he is pardoning his friend that's are protecting him. these are criminals bound to be guilty.
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simply because the president acting like a pmobster and a gangster are protecting those protecting him. mostly people of color for much minor crimes. and he is trying to undermine the constitution and the democracy and align themselves with putin and the enemy. the crimes, 2.3 million people are incarcerated nationwide.
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the general justice system needs to be reformed. this is what we're depending on biden and kamala harris to pay attention to. what can be done from the start of the arrest. looking at the das and all of the criminal justice system to bring about justice and equality. they will simply attack a look at his friends and allies. >> you're going to have a good conversation about 9:30 about that. particularly how they're affecting prisoners in america. more than most in the world. we always appreciate you getting up early for us. >> joining me now is jennifer reuben. her latest piece offers an
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optimistic take on a tough and terrible year. i'm grateful because it is hard to not just look back at this year and wonder about all of the things that went wrong. but it is hard for the holidays as well. what do you see that is good about 2020. >> we persisted as elizabeth warren said. we had a failure of the federal government in combatting. we saw the magnificence of our first responders. people did rise to the occasion. trying to delegitimize this.
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so there was a lot that was disturbing and anxiety provokes. very sad this year, also moments of great courage, perseverance, and we have stumbled through, bruised and battered, and he will leave office. >> yeah, and i think we learned a lot, right? we're smarter than we were four years ago. we are area on the role of a president. we had a big civics less son for four years. you need to pay attention to authorities, excepti tivexecuti and then they realize they really test our systems.
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>> that is true and there were some institutions that did rise to the occasion. how many court decisions were thrown out for his frivolous lawsuits. it didn't matter, they did their job and their job is to look at the law, the facts, there were no facts, there were no breaches of election law, and they upheld the results. that is the institutional guardrails for democracy and protecting our democracy. that is why trump is so infuriating that they could not do his bidding. they absolutely did his job and thank goodness for federalism. the system by which we have local and state authorities. and many of those people did rise to the occasion. we saw the very brave people in georgia who counted the votes,
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recounted, counted a third time and upheld their decisions. we saw the same thing in every state. there was not a single state that did not certify the results or that adopted one of his looney conspiracy theories. >> that is a good point. there was people in michigan, georgia, who said i voted for trump, but this is not how we roll, we don't do it this way. it is an important yes, what do people with conservative ideologies do. i grew up in canada that had a party in the center and leaned a little right, and one that leaned a little left, and they catered to the center. >> no, but it sounds so nice,
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doesn't it? the way it used to be. you haddizeen hour republicans and hubert humphrey democrats. they wanted to make a deal for the benefit of the american people. the fact is that we do not have a republican party. we don't have a small d contract party only the capital d democratic party. they no longer apparently believe in the rule of law, elections, or objective reality. a precondition of democracy. so what do they do? they make sure that the dcs don't go off of the left edge. there is a lot to like in terms of what we have seen so far.
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super serious moderate people. also to go out off form a new party. the party is now trump's party. you saw 126 members. they have the looney petition trying to e invalidate the election. it is a uphill battle at the very least. so i think that the immediate concern is to make sure that the biden administration takes office, that it is allowed to function. that obstructionism doesn't make it possible. both sides looking to repair and reinforce those institutions
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whether or not there is depoliticizing the justice department. it has resulted in mob-like pardons as the congresswoman just said. i think those are things that republicans and democrats might be able to agree on. now the shoe is on the other foot, there is a democratic in the white house now. >> right, yeah, well, we'll see what happens. jennifer, thank you as always. opinion writer with "the washington post." thank you for all of your help this year and have a happy 2021. i assume it can only get better from here. holidays are among us, upon us, and they can be stressful. one comedian said so excited for my quarantine depression and my regular depression to meet my seasonal depression. he is not alone.
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>> i hope that everyone enjoyed their holidays. as the temperatures drop and the sun continues to set in the afternoon it is not uncommon for many of us to be stuck in a rut. it may be joyous for many people, but it can bring stress
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and anxietanxiety, but the coros sab tojed much of our time honored traditions. we have been isolated. and you're not alone if you think so. according to an october survey by the american psychological association 78% of adults say the coronavirus pandemic has been a sight source of stress in their lives. millions of americans had an empty seat at the table this season because of covid-19. these are dark times, no doubt. but the most important thing you can do is put your mental health above all. do self care, get good sleep, go for a walk. read a book.
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connect with people, even if it is over phone and facebook and zoom. fix a schedule. this one is important. maybe you're feeling fine, but your children or parents may not be. check on family and friends. i probably should not be saying this being a news anchor and all, but turn off the news citizen. put the phone down, take a break. you need it and deserve it. i spoke with angela duckworth who recently lost her father from covid-19. here is her advice. >> you can do this yourself, not by removing yourself from 2020, but removing 2020, but saying in 2040 when i look back what is the storyly tell. what will i be proud to say about how i managed things? >> if you were a friend or a family member need help this season or ever, here are some resources.
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the substance abuse and mental melt services national helpline is 1-0800-662-help. you can find the numbers on my twitter page. they're important. there is always someone on the end of that line ready and willing to talk to you. health experts are now worried about a new strain of covid-19 that is spreading that is more infectious than the strain we're currently fighting. we'll get that after a quick break. fighting we'll get that after a quick break. our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. with us... turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. daughter: slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide.
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a new strain of the coronavirus has been found in the uk, always africa and japan, they believe it is more infectious than the original. this comes as over 80 million
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cases have been detected worldwide. joining me now is george benjamin. good to see you again, thank you for being with us. i did not understand the difference between a virus being more infectious than another one. we learned it is more infectious than the flu. what does that really mean? >> that mean it's is more sticky. able to get into your body and go into your cells easier. then when it gets into your tells it can make you sicker or sometimes not. >> does that mean that the rate of infection is always more dangerous or are more people
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likely to get it? with each passing day, like a million people have been vaccinated, there are fewer people who are likely to be vectors for this transmission. scientists anticipate these changes when they make the vaccine. when they do that they do that in a way that makes the vaccine just as effective even if the virus changes a little bit usually but often sometimesly. and so far the evidence is that the vaccine probably will still work and we're pretty clear about that. we're doing some studies to verify it. so when the virus changes, it will still work, but we have an experience with this.
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every year we think it will change if is not something that we can anticipate or that we're not particular with. >> and i guess the flu is the best example, right? we don't reinvent a flu vaccine every year, but the strain is difference and we change it. >> what we do it s we accommodate the vaccine so it can attack the kind of flu that we get every year. every year we do surveillance around the world and we look at the kinds of emerging flu viruss that will be there and we craft a vaccine so that it will specifically attack those strains of the flu. and that may be something that we have to do with this vaccine. we don't know whether or not we have to take it every year, every couple years, but the key thing is having cat passty to check the strain of the virus every year and see how it
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changes. the fact it sis that since we know we can make a vaccine, that should be not an easy process, but one that we should be able to do as the virus changes. we should not be worried about this. we have the technology to address it. >> if i were vaccinated, both of my doses, a week or two weeks after you get your second dose. it doesn't mean that i still can't carry that virus. it doesn't mean that i'm not still a vector or that i'm dangerous to someone that has not been vaccinated or has not got antibodies. >> that's right, getting sick from the disease are two separate things. sometimes it does both,
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sometimes it just keeps you from getting very sick. there is early evidence that it may do both, but we're still waiting to see and the studies, hopefully, will be available in the next several weeks to tell us whether or not if it protects us both from getting very sick, which we know it does, and whether or not it protects us from infecting others. but no matter what, wearing a mask, washing our hands, is all very important as we continue to try to get this and get the population vaccinated. >> we always appreciate your time, thank you for your time. the executive director of the american health association. hospitals have been pushed to the brink. we are going to get a update
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as coronavirus cases continue to surge around the country the focus is on california which is a new covid hot spot. they are surpassing two million cases this week. los angeles county recording 148 new deaths on thursday nap is the equivalent of one death every ten minutes. scott cohen has the latest. >> the numbers in california are daunting in is a state that was the first in the country to blow past two million cases. and 36 people died on christmas day. that is frightening enough as the state closes in now on
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24,000 covid-19 deaths. it is the forward looking numbers that have people concerned. they have more than 8,000 intensive care beds statewide. that capacity is basically full. they say there is zero capacity when you look at the formula for determining that. conserving enough beds. people in intensive care for covid-19 as well as the staff to treat them. they have beds but they are not taking people from other parts of the state. the head of the department told me this is the worst he has ever seen in 24 years of emergency medicine. on christmas they put three patients on ventilators which is par for the course. they say they're exhausted. the hope is that the regional stay at home orders that have
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been in place in december, that those are starting to flatten the curve. that those case numbers are coming down as we know. they are going to sit down people in restaurants. at the end of the thanksgiving surge, and the coming christmas surge, that is keeping people worried in a crisis. holly, back to you. >> thank you, scott. there is a certain population within the u.s. population that is four times more likely to catch the coronavirus and they're largely, if not entirely voiceless in the matter. when velshi returns we'll show you how the pandemic is spreading through the prisons imposing a de facto death sentence. de facto death sentence
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a combination of an overpopulated prison system the u.s. locks up more people per capita than any other nation at a rate of 698 people. 100,000 residents, and a highly transmittable virus could be lethal. the 2.3 million inmates in the united states is five times more likely to test positive for the coronavirus. and nearly three times as likely to die from it. now with the vaccine getting out, advocates for inmates are calling for lawmakers to give the prison population access to the virus as soon as possible. massachusetts has been one of the first to implement inmate inoculations underscoring the urgency of stopping outbreaks of the coronavirus in vails. joining me now is joyce vance,
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also a u.s. attorney. she opened an investigation into over overcrowding and violence. she continued her work in the area advising members of law enforcement. also with me, the professor of global health and social medicine and a physician at the division of global health equity. he worked on preventing trance mission of airborne diseases in prison. welcome again to both of you. many months ago we had our first conversation about this. joyce, let me start with you. we have a few choices here when it comes to prison. we can do better at keeping prisoners safe from airborne
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infections, we can incarcerate fewer people, or inoculate them as a priority. that third one is having trouble. people are not interested in prisoners getting inoculations before other people. you end up with people dies that didn't get a death seasons. -- sentence. >> we have to have an all of the above strategy. we need to reduce new entrance to prisons. better health measures for people who are incarcerated, and we need to speed early release of medically vulnerable populations and working to educate communities. all too often the problem here is the same as when it comes to helping inmates get jobs or be rethat biha rehabilitated in prison. and understand that they're not living on some side of the line that is different from us that they are part of our
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communities, and we need to treat them that way. >> doctor, you have studied this in russia. you studied tb, something that most of us don't about, because we think it's eradicated. it exists in people living in highly populated areas. >> for a number of airborne diseases, prisons are spread in very overcrowded conditions. i want to add to what you have said. we have a number of people that are incarcerated and people going into jails. think about it, there's 10.6 million annual admissions to u.s. jails. 200,000 people flowing in and out of jails every week. when you break down these
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numbers, 75% of them are pre-trial detainees. they are not convicted of any crime. 40% will not be convicted of charges. they are going into a facility that's very crowded. it turns out -- some colleagues at yale, they have shown that the transmission of covid in urban jails -- you know that -- the number of people one person can infect. normally, it's 1.5 and thr3. in a jail, because it's so crowded, it's eight. what happens is if you put people in a prison or jail, they get infected very rapid by because of the overcrowding. then they come back into the community. that's the argument, that a side of the human rights aspect, the responsibility when you put somebody into a jail to look after them, a side of the human rights aspect, it's an
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epidemiological pump. states like massachusetts, they are doing something good for the jail population, but they're doing something good for the entire population, because they're preventing the disease. in chicago, for cook county jail, there was a study that shows 16% of the current races in chicago and illinois can be attributable to the cycle of people coming in and out of the cook county jail in march and april. this is a huge thing, application safety. >> joyce, the one -- we had few policy gains in the last few years. one of them is some advancement in criminal justice and sentencing. we made some little moves, because people on both sides of the political aisle realize the way we do things in terms of incarceration, if you are a conservative, you come to the conclusion it's not economically feasible, the way we handle things. if you are liberal, maybe you
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have other views on why we shouldn't incarcerate the populations we do. what prospect is there for more progress on this front? both from the epidemiology side and from a social justice perspective, we put a lot of people in jail. >> like you say, criminal justice reform is one of those rare issues where there's been bipartisan consensus, where there's continued to be progress, albeit far too slow. covid is a lens that helps us focus on existing inequities and other problems in the criminal justice system. we incarcerate too many people in this country for too long. i'm comfortable saying that, because the studies, the literature makes it very clear that lengthy sentences don't make america safer than countries norwegian prison systems, other european prison systems that use far less incarceration and have better results in terms of
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rehabilitation. as we walk into this next administration, we know that one of the real criteria for selecting an attorney general for joe biden has been looking at prior commitment to criminal justice reform. given there's bipartisan movement in this area, there's something for everyone to gain. lower costs while making communities safer and do the right thing for people. this is actually an area where i'm optimistic that we can make progress, because we have to. >> when we look at prisons or incarcerated populations, that study you showed that talked about the transmission rate, that's more than a cruise ship. people think it's not safe to go on a cruise ship, it's more danerodane dangerous to be in a jail. we don't take health care for prisoners that seriously. is there a gold standard how we should do that? .
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>> throughout the world, the incarcerated population faced problems getting health care. european countries that joyce referred to may be an example. the idea, of course, is that you take away somebody's rights, you take on this responsibility for looking after them. we know people actually go to prison as punishment, not for punishment. i think there's this attitude we have as a society, if somebody is in jail, that's their problem, they got themselves there. that's the wrong moral orientation to this. the gold standard, when people's rights are taken away, you have taken away their freedom. you then take on this responsibility to look after them. unfortunately, we're now in the situation whereby not lookiby n after the prisoners, we will have a tough time stopping the
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disease in the population. the gold standard should be de-carceration. 40% of the u.s. prison population, according to the brennon center for justice, have no reason to be in jail. those that need to be vaccinated, can be vaccinated. >> thank you to both of you. this is a great conversation. i appreciate us continuing to have it. millions of americans face losing their unemployment benefits as of this weekend. the government could be headed for a shutdown. covid financial relief is uncertain. what did the president do about it? he golfed. then he tweeted. coming up next, i will speak to a congressman about the fate of the covid relief bill. f the covid relief bill. coughing'. this woman coughs... and that guy does, too. people cough in the country,
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good morning. it's sunday, december 27th. there are 24 days until president joe biden's inauguration -- president-elect joe biden's inauguration. the president is exhausted causing chaos in congress, refusing to sign a crucial

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