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crisis only after he fiddled while real economic relief from millions of americans burned. on the heels of a holiday week that brought a surge of americans to food bank. an unnecessary certainty over a covid economic relief plan. trump damed to provide assistance to struggling americans after hijacking it. for no reason at all. relenting last night and signing into law an aid package he held up for a week. after calling it a disgrace. in a theater video that closed with his latest election delusion. trump claimed he would have work tirelessly over the christmas holiday. instd he went golfing in florida. and kept golfing. at his private resort. as unemployment benefits expired for 14 million on saturday. while he held the bill in limbo. the entire kings row court was on vacation. while americans suffered.
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vice president pence was hitting the slopes in colorado. and treasury secretary was in mexico. at a resort home that he owns there. let them eat cake. in a signing statement after he belatedly put the signature on the relief bill, trump said he got concessions that don't mean anything. and he claimed that congress would focus on his fantasy claims of voter fraud. but since had already signed the bill that means in english he got nothing. now of course, trump could have advocated for $2,000 stimluck checks sooner. he chose to rage about trying to over turn the election and tonight the democratic led houts voted to give trump exactly what he asked for. stimulus payments of $2,000 instead of 600. the "washington post" reported
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trump's decision to throw a wrench into the deal that his treasury secretary negotiated was his alone. hooe angry at everybody and wants to inflict as much pain on congress as possible. just congress? behind the scenes getting the cranky president to sign the relief bill was like being a hostage negotiator or diffusing a bomb. even the house of mur dock of years of propping up his foolishness is skidding away from him. asking him to give it up and stop trying to over turn the election. if you want to submit your influence even set the stage for a future return you must channel into something productive. if you insist on threatening to burn it all down, that will be how you are remembered. not a revolutionary. as the anarchist holding the
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match. i'm joined by columnist for the "new york times." republican strategist and senior adviser to the linn dcoln proje. i chuckle at the house mur dock backing away. and saying this will be how you are remembered. not the throwing children into cages and taking them from moms and dads and letting 330,000 people die. it will be holding up this bill. what do you make of this entire last 72 hours of madness. >> a couple thipgs. you hear a lot of republicans trying to deal with trump in the tantrum presidency. pretend that he has a great legacy that will be marred by this behavior. as if this behavior hasn't been ongoing for four years. i would say that if trump was at
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all serious about wanting those $2,000 checks, he should really be talking to senate republicans. because obviously nancy pelosi took yes for an answer and i think donald trump was right about the $2,000 for the wrong reasons. i don't think he was actually interested in the welfare of the american people. if he was he wouldn't have held up the bill. people get ten weeks of unemployment instead of 11. because it ran out and has to be restarted. democrats should leverage this sort of grand of trump and start demanding that republicans particularly republicans in the senate give the president what they want. if they don't and i said this before, it is really interesting that that is the line that republicans won't cross for trump. any sexual assault is okay. extorting a foreign power is okay. attempting a coup. asking for too much money for
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struggling americans is where mitch mcconnell cannot go any -- that's where he stops. >> you're right. my political scientist friend, what's so remarkable is donald trumps sort of magical power is doing what republicans want to do anyway. the only things he's capable of doing is things they want to do is cut rich peoples taxes and deregulate oil companies. or things they don't give a dam about. like locking up kids. they don't care about it he can do it. if it's cruel and crazy and sucking up to putin. it's fine. oligarchs like us too. anything he wants to do. cuddle up to nazis. we don't care. don't try to spend money and give it to regular people. from a political science point of view, might this be a lesson to democrats to stick with your opening. democrats wanted $2,000 in the beginning. now trump says i want it too.
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why doesn't he just force republicans to keep on being and doing what trump tells them. >> i completely agree. here's the thing, democrats always need to learn more about how to play hardball. it seems like they want to play hardball with each other. that's part of the challenge. that they're always facing. i have to tell you ultimately, $2,000 isn't the greatest thing in the world. that may or may not change anybody's life. it's important for the party as a whole to remember even if you somehow run into obstacles and the senate and the senate won't pass it. telling your average american that $2,000 once a month or something else like that is going to save them from do vid won't be enough. democrats need to go bolder. that amount of money is not going to help people get out of
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the debt that covid put them into. or allow them to survive ore a couple months. >> every other civilized country is giving people $2,000 a month. and giving them a check to stay home. that's logical. this is adam kp pat toomy. two of trumps -- they haven't lifted a finger. talking about the bill. >> to play this old switch a radroo game. i don't get the point i don't understand what's being done. unless it to create chaos and show power and be upset because you lost the election. >> i understand he wants to be remembered for advocating for big checks. the danger is he'll be remembered for chaos and misery and erratic behavior if he allows this to expire. >> toomy will be remembered for
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a tea partier, he is the guy who tried to shut down the ability of of the future -- biden administration to do p.p.p. he'll be remembered -- he held the bill up. what's happening? >> i can't explain it. there's no way to. i wouldn't say he has been out spoken against the president before. i think there's a few interesting plays here. >> on what? >> talking about lt new york post. that was not a message to donald trump at all. i think it was a message to other republicans. and party leaders especially in new york and other places that you can take cover under us. i think they said enough is enough. that's mur docks way of doing it. i think that it would be very interesting to know what trump is saying to mcconnell right now. is he says you better take it up for a vote or i'm not going
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georgia on january 4. i'm curious if that will happen. and it is a good likelihood. trump just wants to get the $2,000 because he wants to say i won and you lost. that's how he's operating. i can't explain the behavior of a psycho path who has no empathy. towards the american public. that's what he is. that's what a psycho path does. he's functioning. and he can lure people in. he has no empathy. and he gets off on hurting other people and looking strong. he doesn't care. this is his last hoo ra. maybe he wants to incite violence on january 6. that's a danger to the country. which is probably what he'll be most remembered for. and he will then go away back to mar-a-lago until he has to go up to new york and face the music up there with two cases pending
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in new york state. and new york city. >> rapid fire. i'll start with you. rubio went off dr. fauci. playing the trump yan game. got levelled by gupta. which incentives are stronger at this point? he clearly still wants to be president and nurses delusions. he seems to have made the calculation that staying under trumps warm belly is the way to do it. then you have to people who may try to break away thinking that the house of mur dock can protect them if they go the other way. which looks like the stronger kind of incentive structure for republicans going forward? >> it's hard to say what the incentive structure is. you have a collective action problem. if enough republicans got together and said we're no longer going to be cowed by this lunatic who has led the party to
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presidential defeat and likely be a bad candidate in 2024. they could do it. the problem is the donald trump was actually right i think when he took the measure of many of the opponents in 2016. and kind of accurately diagnosed their weakness and refusal, failure to stand up to him. i think the behavior you see from rubio right now might be because he wants to be president. it's why he isn't president. it's why he was so easily defeated by trump. >> yeah. he's a phony. he's whatever he thinks he has to be to win. you have a party that lindsey graham said if we nominate trump he'll destroy us and we'll deserve it. they are making that happen on his own. none of them is him. they don't have a celebrity a
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background to fall back on. >> this is the thing. from this is a very unique change in american politics. trump will be his legacy is everybody will have to study the man for 100 years. the republican party is absolutely foolish if they think they can recreate not lightning in a bottle. poison in a bottle. they can't recreate it. everybody else tried to act like donald trump failed to be successful or running for any sort of executive position. governor etc. etc. they don't get that far. they are not necessarily successful. the republican party needs to think long and hard about look, trump is going to be out of office soon, no matter what we play to. he's not a reliable surrogate going forward. they need to realize their future needs to be in taking the part of the trumpism that were effective. lower taxes and naked racism.
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gerrymander and make that the campaign. if they make it on his personality they will fail. are those good for american politics? not at all. from a strategic standpoint that's where they have to go. rubio can't figure it out. fox news can't. they have to do it with online things. they cannot rely on trumpism from that man to have the party be successful in the future. >>. >> last word to you. you have two choices. the republicans like pence and mnuchin fleeting off into the sunshine vacation spots. and then you have trump saying be a pop list. give people $2,000. the venezuela version of politics. which way will senate republicans go? 2,000 or remain on high. >> i think mcconnell will be forced to take a vote and republicans will go for the $2,000. i think they have to at this point. they are afraid of trump. the future of the party -- it's
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not donald trump. only trump can be trump. these elected officials they will have to be primaried and challenged or lose seats like rubio should in 2022. and the party will rebuild from there. >> yeah. i will quote the tweet mitch better have my money. google it. up next, what we're learning about the powerful christmas explosion in nashville and why many people are so reluctant to call it what it is. and it was one of the biggest scandals of the year. meat processing workers left unprotected as their workplaces became covid hot zones. many of them died. the "the reidout" discuss and continues after this.
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responsible for an explosion that injured three people and ravag ravaged several blocks of nashville christmas day. any act of terrorism follows with investigation. and media cover that differs wildly depending on what the suspects name sound like. who they worship and the color of their skin. which is why we're seeing warner a white long time nashville resident described in headlines as the bomber who was killed in the blast. or die nd the explosion. not as an apparent suicide bomber. meanwhile in the latest example of joe biden acting as the president in the absence of the national leader at the moment, the president-elect addressed the explosion today. trump has yet to comment. he reiterated the transition team is not getting crucial national security information they need from the pentagon. >> many of the agencies that are critical to the security have
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incured enormous damage. many have been hollowed out. in personnel, capacity, and moral. we have encountered road ploks from the political leadership at the department of defense and office of management and budget. right now we aren't getting all the information that we need. or the ongoing from the out going administration. in key national security areas. it's nothing short of irresponsibility. joining me now former country or the fbi counter terrorism. your tweet rewriting the "new york times" headline gave me life today. it expressed the frustration that so many brown folks and black folks feel when we watch the news. we're in the news business. it frustrates me. the way people are described
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when they do something that sure does look like the kind of terrorism that we have had to report on in our jobs. they are a white person. it's described differently. if this guy blew up a van and he was in the van, that's a suicide bomber. that's regardless of what the reason that he did it. we'll figure it out. that's a suicide bomber. it frustrates me people don't call it that. i want your comment. >> i think you raised a really important point. i want to make the distinction for the viewers between what is the cultural media landscape in ou society covers terrorism acts by people we believe to be foreign linked or international sponsored act of terrorism and those who are domestic. and i think the difference here between the government response
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and the cultural media response is important. that's what i was trying to get at with the "new york times" headline. it started out saying a quiet life. a thunderous death and a nightmare that shook nashville. you would have no idea what that headline was about. you almost think it had something else to do -- it row mantizing and humanizing what we're seeing. i tried to simplify it previous attacks. straight to the point. a suicide bomber carrying out an attack on a major american city on christmas day. there's a legal definition. whether this meets that tlesh threshold. that's an important debate. to try to understand in an individual who plans this attack, who acquires the material, develops the know how. and canvass the location. surveys the site and identifies
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a possible target according to to local officials like the mayor and officials who believe that's what the target was. and then carries out this act of using a weapon of mass destruction. that terrorizes people. that disrupts interstate commerce. and shut down airlines. and infrastructure. and forces people to move out of the their homes for a couple days because 41 buildings was damaged. that's the form of a terrorist act. the society and the media is reluctant to have that conversation. that's troubling. >> it's troubling to me too. it's troubling also because i feel like in a will the of ways, we as a society because somebody looks like maybe the editor's family or can relate to them. they can find something about them that feels relatable. means we missed the escalating level of violence that is making
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us more like other countries that do deal with suicide bombers and etc. people have reasons why they do it. there's not always a note they left. there are countries where second-degree bombings happen and it's reported that way. dillen roof shot up a church, and then there were all of the headlines about whether it's a hate crime or terrorism. and what was his life like. what was his childhood like. why was he interested in -- 22 latino shoppers massacred. and they talk about mental illness. the las vegas gunman. you're seeing an escalating level of violence in the country and you have a president who is inciting violence. and inciting politically related violence. aren't we missing what the
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escalations mean? >> yes. this has been consistent over the last three to nour years. major escalation in domestic terrorism. i testified about it in the senate. there's no real arguing about the stats and the numbers and the fact the media and the way it's treated is totally different. if you saw it headline and it was anything that could be connected with isis or al qaeda. it would be. if it was traditionally a white man recently on any of the number of mass shootings which were clearly race based or antigovernment. you would not necessarily see it called domestic terrorism. in case of the bombing what we have to remember is there are examples of the inverse. i can talk about steve paddock the las vegas shooter. people were trying to figure out what was the motivation. to this day no one knows why
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that person committed mass murder. in the same point with this one here. part of the classification issue is if they can't come to an ideology in law enforcement base it can cause trouble down the road trying to parse what attacks are terrorism and what are mass shootings due to personal grievance or crime. they are not necessarily tied to a terrorist organization or plot. which is a political social religious objective. that's part of the reason you see the law enforcement goes that way. what we're getting to is how the immediate reaction is people to jump to one conclusion vs. another where. we're looking at the same or similar act coming from one person that happens to be white. in this case. and other cases we see they have a foreign context or the color of the skin is the basis for the immediate media are made.
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>> are you concerned. you had trump tweet. he said stand back and standby to the proud boys. and the u.s. will be in a danger zone until the formal certification. and i'll ask you both. first of all are you concerned about violence, political violence in this country related to the change over of presidents? >> i am. it's been descending essentially. we have seen several of the calls fights break out. -- there's violence. >> we're losing your audio. >> are you concerned about the way it will be covered? >> the short answer is yes. one of the challenges that we have had in the media generally is to not take president trump
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literately for the concerns that he has brought into the debate about how the transition of the democracy will happen. too many times people kind of have a lot of trust in the american institutions which is important to have. as we have seen as we continue to see republicans members of the president's party sometimes tend to shy away from leaning toward a peaceful transition to democracy because they want him reelected by any means necessary. i think there's a tendency to say don't worry, he's just speaking. it will be resolved by the institution. i have to take the president in his threats seriously. and i think there's cause for concern. >> put me down as concerned as well. thank you both. coming up more than 2 million georgiaens already voted ahead of the crucial senate run off. can democrats pull off another big victory there? jon ossoff joins me next.
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we are just eight short days from georgia senate run off election the winners will decide which party controls the senate and the fate of the joe biden agenda. taking this very seriously with 2.1 million votes already cast. we don't know who the votes were cast for. we know that the highest turn out rate so far are coming from democratic controlled districts. the lowest turn out is from
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republican districts. including the one that elected green. and trump is planning to hold a rally next monday. there have been nearly 68,000 georgiaens who didn't vote in the general election who have already voted early. a majority are voters of the color. and two-thirds over age 35. thank you for joining me. let's start with where you think this is going. it's hard to do the progress nostics. you don't know who people are voting for. how do you feel going into the last eight days. have democrats built up enough of an early vote lead to where stand a usual trump election day turn out? >> thank you for having me. the turn out is record shattering. to think about how far the state has come you have the young jewish son of an immigrant
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running alongside a black preacher who holds king's pulpit. here's what's happening. our republican opponents and the national republican party are trying to disenfranchise black voters in georgia. they're trying to throw out the registrations of those who rej straited since november. and pull ballot drop boxes out. they are up to all of the old tricks. voter suppression is alive and well in georgia. while the reverend and i are out here working to get out the vote, republicans super-packs are out spending democratic groups by a lot. i'm asking everybody out there tune in right now and follow me. i'm asking you to invest in victory in georgia. in voter protection in georgia. help us defend the franchise. from this voter suppression. go to elect jon.com and help us
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win with just eight days to go. there's so much on the line. >> i know that there's a ton on the line and voter suppression is classic given the governor. the former secretary of state and the way he won the governor ship. i wonder how much the money -- where does it matter? you raised in your when you ran for the house seat. you raised a record shattering amount of money. you didn't quite win. you came very close in the initial part of the senate race. within 88,000 votes. of senator perdue. how is the money actually useful? what does it change in your mind? >> i go through with my team the turn out numbers, the fund raising numbers, and the threats to the franchise as the republican lawsuits pop up seemingly daily. trying to disenfranchise voters in georgia.
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the bottom line is we are behind our fund raising target for the final crucial week. this money is not shovelled into tv ads. it's an unprecedented turn out effort. there's movement energy in georgia. and the early voting numbers don't lie. there are still hundreds of thousands of people who need to hear from this campaign. there's still the prospect of litigation that will disenfranchise black voters in georgia. georgia democrats are fending off and have been fending off multiple lawsuits, brazeningly intended to disenfranchise black voters. without the resources we will not be able to prevail. >> let's talk about money. you have come out strongly in favor of the $2,000 level of benefits for covid relief as has warnock. are you aware of whether perdue or senator loeffler are in favor
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of that level of relief? >> i haven't heard a peep. >> he's advertising based on the 600. >> he is. perdue the same u.s. senator who was on the phone with his broker buying medical and vaccine stocks when he heard bt the pandemic. opposed even the first round of $1,200 stimulus checks. and now after 8 months of obstruction. after he stated his opposition repeatedly to direct relief for the people. while he rubber stamped vast sums that went to major corporations and wall street banks. he's touting $600 like he saved the day. $600 is a joke. folks have months of rent passed due. gas bills piling up. child care costs. credit cards maxed out. people are hurting through no fault of their own. this covid economy is
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devastating working families. i'm calling on senator perdue to reverse his opposition to $2,000 relief checks. president-elect biden, president trump and democrats also support this policy to get money into the pockets of hard working americans who are in dire straights right now. and senator perdue needs to come out tonight and commit to voting on the floor of the senate for the relief checks. >> you have made that very clear on twitter and this show. people love the buddy act between you and warnock. good luck to you. thank you for spending time with us. >> any time. >> over loaded hospitals are bracing for another post holiday covid surge. the tsa reports the highest number of air travelers since the start of the pandemic. two medical societies have strongly recommended to doctors
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died of covid-19. nearly one in every 1,000 americans have been taken by this virus with millions more grappling with the void of losing loved ones. in florida with no statewide restrictions and 11% positivity rate. preparations are under way for the annual new years eve bash. a affair that includes hundreds of revelers packed together toasting the trump successes of the past year. which happens to be the deadliest year in american history. thanks to covid-19. on sunday ignoring the pleas of experts and exhausted healthcare workers, nearly one and a half million people traveled through u.s. airports. the most since the start of the pandemic. dr. fauci warned that the worst is yet to come. >> we very well might see a post seasonal in the sense of christmas new years surge. and as i have described it a
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surge upon a surge. when you are dealing with a bis line of 200,000 cases a day. and about 2,000 deaths per day. with the hospitalization over 120,000. we're at a critical point. >> the "washington post" reports 2 million people have received their first dose of the vaccine. earlier today a vaccine created by entered the final testing. a member of the covid-19 advisory board announced biden plans to invoke the defense production act to boost production of vaccines. and she joins me now. i do worry that people are sofa te -- fatigued. people aren't listening to the guidance anymore. and counting on the vaccine to save the day and save everyone. this would boost the amount of vaccine being produced. how much would have to get out and how quickly in order to get some kind of herd immunity?
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>> so the president-elect asked his called upon the president -- >> yep, we have you. go ahead. >> the president-elect has called upon president trump to invoke the defense production act for personal protective equipment. he hasn't done so yet. if personal protective equipment continues to be an issue come late january, the president-elect will invoke the defense production act himself. it's a shame this long into the pandemic almost a year, front line providers including myself are still facing shortages of face masks and shields and gowns and gloves. and the defense production act is one option that's being considered. for ramping up the production of the testing supplies as well as the raw materials needed for a vaccine production. it's not just about vaccine production. in terms of getting everybody
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vaccinated. it's also going to be a major logistical challenge when healthcare workers are swamped in hospitals. it's very difficult to reallocate the healthcare workers to vaccination activity. >> we don't have the video. we have her audio. we'll keep going. as far as the vaccines, people are putting too much stock. 2 million have been vaccinated so far. people are getting them early and to the point governor cuomo announced a million dollar fine and license revocation for anybody who gets the vaccine fraudulently before healthcare workers. are you concerned it's too slow at this point and also now already being interrupted by people who shouldn't be getting it first? >> we are very concerned it's too slow. we have administered 2 million doses in two weeks.
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that's one million a week. at that rate it would take over a decade to vaccinate everybody in the country. that's not fast enough. we need to be ramp ruth bader ginsburg up the rate ramp up our rate of vaccination. we want as many people to get vaccinated as possible. the cdc has issued guidelines as to who should go first. that's really because we want to maximize the impact of the vaccine if from a public health approach. it's not just about the individual getting the vaccine. also about preventing transmission. and preventing death. that is where certain groups have been prioritized over others. it's not those people are better or more important. that has the greatest health impact for all of us. >> thank you so much for being here tonight. and we apologize for the technical difficulty.
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meat packing and poultry processing workers should be next in line. meat packing plants were host to some of the worst outbreaks in the country, with most employees working long hours in cramped conditions. according to the food and environment action network, which has been documenting cases, nearly 66,000 meat packing and food processing workers have been infected with the virus and nearly 300 have died. according to propublica, workers a at tyson plant in waterloo, iowa felt pressured to show up or risk losing their jobs. that plant is now facing a wrongful death lawsuit, filed on behalf of the families of workers who died after being exposed to the virus. the suit claims that managers were downplaying the dangers of the virus, calling it the glorified flu while simultaneously placing bets on how many workers would get sick. tyson responded saying its top priority is the health and safety of its employees, and that its protective measures meet or exceed official guidance. despite the mounting death toll
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in various facilities, president trump signed an executive order in april classifying meat plants as essential infrastructure that must remain open. >> they're big companies, but they're now being treated fairly. they're thrilled. and that whole bottleneck is broken up. >> so the defense protection act protects them? >> well, we'll use it. that's what we did. used it. and it helps them greatly to do what they have to do. because they're ready to do it, but they needed some help. >> last week republicans dropped their demands that liability protection for companies be included in covid relief legislation. but it remains a top priority for senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. joining me now is mark laurenson vcht of the commercial food and workers union. this is something i've wanted to talk about for quite a while. if you look at places like greeley, colorado or these meat packing place in iowa and mississippi, it felt like these are dangerous places for people
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to work. are these dangerous places for people to be working? >> well, joy, thanks for having me. i would start by saying meat processing and food processing has always been a hard, hard job. and covid-19 has exposed the fact that not only is it hard work, it can be dangerous, really dangerous. i know you spoke of 300 deaths in the industry. just in our union alone, over 130 of our sisters and brothers weren't able to celebrate the holidays with their families because they passed from this. so the industry has always been tough, but i think we have done a good job of pushing the employers. and at times it felt like we were one of the few people standing up to the administration while they were doing things like forcing the plants to stay open while workers were dying. it shows the administration's priorities. >> well, republicans in general
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seem to believe that the only aid that anybody needs is to go to work and sort of get on the wheel. and obviously, people in meat packing plants can't do that from home. so they and people who work at place likes amazon and people who work in close quarters to make people who can stay at home's lives more comfortable can be vulnerable. you have buzzfeed reporting 45 meat packing plants confirm 50 covid cases. only 50 plants actually ordered full-scale testing for their employees. and on the subject of managers at this iowa facility, placing bets on how many would get sick, one terminated manager said the office pool was spontaneous and intended to boost morale. so they're trying to boost fellow managers' morale. how are workers generally treated in these facilities when it comes to safety from covid? >> well, let me speak to you about the plants that we represent and that are unionized, and i can't speak about what's happening in those nine facilities. >> sure. >> but where we represent folks, we were the union that pushed to
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get the enhanced ppe. we've been working with our employers to do things like expand the common areas so we can get people room to social distance. we were the ones that were talking with the employers about the ventilation system all at the same time that the trump administration at osha had basically abdicated the field. we're the union that still to this day is pushing this administration, this osha and we'll push the next administration to enact a temporary emergency standard. not just for our workers, but for all workers across the country, because osha needs to do their job. when we look back at the failures of what happened in the covid-19 pandemic, the first mistake that was made is that osha abdicated their responsibility to keep these workers safe, and that left to it our union to basically duke it out with every company individually to make sure our members were safe. >> and for those who aren't
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familiar with osha, the occupational health and safety organization is supposed to protect workers on the job. but given situations like this, or we could do the same segment about amazon and all these other places where people have to work in close quarters to again, make our comfy lives possible. propublica found that for more than a dozen years, critical businesses like meat packers have been warned that a pandemic was coming. workers showed that these companies relied on wait and see as their approach rather than do something about it. in one example 11 years ago, the department of labor encouraged employers to stockpile masks for media exposure risk jobs that include those with frequent close contact, close to six feet exposures. >> et cetera. i'm sure this is something that has come up in your union as well. what do you make of the fact that mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, wants to give liability protection to companies like the ones that your workers work in so they can't be sued? >> well, let's start the
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liability waivers that senator mcconnell is asking for is just wrong. it's not just wrong in the meat packing industry, it's wrong for workers across this country in every aspect of work because employers need to be held accountable for what they do and what they don't do. and in this case, when osha abdicated their responsibility, it turned everything upsid down, there was no basis for employers and people to know this is what has to happen inside our facilities. when osha abdicated, it left a lot of people throughout to do whatever they wanted to do. and right now our legal system is going to protect those folks, and they need to have a union behind them. when you look back at the history of this pandemic, when osha abdicated their responsibility, it was this union and employers that had to sit down and figure it out on their own what has to happen here. all the expertise in the field
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left and we had to fill that vacuum. >> yeah. well, good people make good government, and good unions make for a good workplace. americans keep learning that over and over and over and over again. mark lawyer right senn, thank you very much. that is tonight's reidout. thank you all for being here. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in," trump leaves the golf course to sign covid relief, but not before causing even more pain for millions, for no reason. >> and to send me a suitable bill, or else the next administration will have to deliver a covid relief package, and maybe that administration will be me. >> tonight the damage donald trump is doing every day he is still the president. the human suffering from his tantrums, and michael beschloss on this historically awful leader. then, as louie gohmert sues mike pence to keep trump in the white house, there any
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